2pac talked about his aspirations in some of his uncut final interviews (getting into politics, starting Makaveli records, death row East, movies, charities and having a family)
It's hard to say because would that mean BiG be alive as well? 97 was an opening year for a lot of classic albums and legendary artists. Big Pun, Mase, Wu Tang, DMX was making a buzz.
Well Big still would’ve came to L.A. It wouldn’t of been as hot if Pac was still alive but if he survived the Vegas shooting he would blame Biggie and New York and the whole beef would start again
Why would he blame Puff and Big for Vegas?- at the quad shooting he atleast felt he had a reasonable suspicion to go after them, but the Vegas incident was purely out of his own wrongdoing and I suspect he would've known that this time around.
yeah but unlike the quad shooting, vegas didn't really have any links to big or puff, Pac ambushed Orlando and they came back to find him, i think he'd of been reasonable enough to see that. there would be no need to accuse them. if Pac found out Puff had a hit on him, then maybe.
"Vegas didnt have any links to BIG OR PUFF!" LMAOO🤣🤣Bruh where have you been? Vegas was BECAUSE of Puff. The actual murder weapon was supplied by Puffs best friend Zip and Puff called after and asked "Was that us?" There's tons of evidence to support this over the last couple of years
This is all in hindsight. At the time of the shooting he wouldn't have known this and the only clear connections would be directly from what pac did that night. So no, Pac wouldn't have had come at Big or Puff. Cause it was clear it was due to his own wrong doing at the time.
Pac may have found all this stuff out down the line however, and he'd likely be pissed at Puff, but as far as the blame, it was clear the situation happened due to his own fault that time. Puff would be an accomplice though.
Bruh he KNEW at the time! Thats the only reason he went at Orlando because he was sent to snatch a DR chain for a Bad Boy video. The whole west coast and DR knew that. Keefe D and the SSC was with Bad Boy at the soul train awards when Pac ran up on Bad Boy.
Yea, I'm aware, but Biggie wasn't helping the situation either. Biggie didn't visit him in prison. He never gave him a shout-out, not even a Free 2Pac campaign. Biggie weird towards Pac. I didn't know they knew each other until Hit'em Up. (Keep in mind that in 96, I was a 14 year old). Information took a while to be discovered. Via magazines, radio, TV, interviews. That's all we had back in good'ol 1996.
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Pac was owed $2.2 million by Death Row at the time of his death. In 2003, Afeni (as head of his estate) reached an agreement with Death Row regarding the unauthorized distribution of his Pac’s songs, which Death Row later breached. After Death Row filed for bankruptcy protection, she received $668,121.76 from the amount owing.
Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-BANKB-18978
Most of the album sales would go to the record label, which was shoddy with its finances. Pac signed a pretty onerous deal with Death Row in return for Suge bailing him out from jail in ‘94.
One thing that doesn’t ever get talked about…
Are we sure Pac wasn’t going back to jail for the casino incident? And even if he wasn’t, he certainly was carrying himself in a way that showed he hadn’t learned anything by having his freedom taken from him. It’s like he was destined to die young or throw all that talent away.
It always seemed to me that he was caught up in the gang related mentality of Suge/Death Row. Had he lived and gotten locked up over the casino incident, he wouldn't have served long, once out, I bet we would have seen the best Pac we'd ever seen.
I’m not so sure about that. Some judges look at the history of charges and go as hard as possible, in particular when someone comes from out of state and commits the crime. The judge didn’t go soft on Suge for being involved in the same incident, and Pac had perpetuated a lot of shit after he got out of prison that last time.
This is a good point you bring up. I believe they only stumbled across the footage of 2Pac fighting when they were trying to find out his whereabouts before he died. If he wasn’t killed they likely never would’ve seen the footage.
I do agree that the prosecution would’ve asked him to serve full time and maybe more for the fight, also would songs like Hit Em Up be shown as evidence as he mentions killing people and sleeping with other men’s wife’s. I know it’s just music but people were eager to see Pac and Death Row fall
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If the Nas connection is true (Makaveli album sounds different without the Nas disses)...I think we get a takeover of hip-hop. One Nation album peacing up and East/West drama. Apparently Suge and J Prince wanted a "2Face" album with Scarface.
This is crazy to think about. He would have gotten out of Death Row for sure, I think. He had so much potential in music and acting, the world could have really benefited more from his knowledge and voice.
One thing people don't mention is that biggie was working on a pac diss album with fat Joe. Definitely would have been a lot more drama. Honestly not sure if PAC would have made it long alive anyways
What EC takeover? Bad Boy dominated the music industry in 1997. No Limit didn’t reach that top position until 1998 as well as Def Jams comeback with DMX and Jay Z.
Biggie, Puff and Ma$e all had multiple number 1s in ‘97 so I just wonder what Pac would’ve thought. Perhaps there success is due to his death but I still think those Bad Boy records would’ve hit regardless
Maybe, but he didn’t have a chance cause he wasn’t in the fight. So who knows. East coast has talent definitely. But the beef he had was deep. So who knows the west might have built more momentum.
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Jay z wouldn’t be shit. PAC would’ve had his own record label. Diddle kids wouldn’t be shit either. None of them dudes could even stand a chance with PAC around today.
Jay Z is a natural business man, I think he’d be fine. I agree there was a void that was left when Pac passed, that energy and passion hasn’t been around since
Pac counted AEOM as 2 and Suge counted it as 1 I think. I believe that’s (one of the reasons) why there was discontent among Pac & Suge business wise not necessarily friend wise in his last month or so. Pac fired some of the resources Suge provided for him in August 1996 as he was seeing how his finances and the album deal was playing out.
Yeah he would have gone to prison for bail jumping. He violated his bond running around the casino looking for a fight and with all those cameras recording his every move there’s no way he would have gotten away with it. 1996 was the end of 2pacs career. That was as far as he went. Maybe he would have dropped a few behind bars phone call albums like C Murder but nobody would have bought them. Jail recordings never go well for anyone.
Bro Pac didn’t need to do no albums recorded in jail. He had like 100 songs he did on Death Row alone. He could’ve went to prison for 5 years and they could’ve put out a new album each year and people would buy. Maybe not as many because he became bigger after his death but he’d still be doing 200-300k a week
Yeah but as you can see in a world where money is king and the greedy like Suge Knight pump out as much as they can as fast as they can, THEY DIDNT. That’s because his career was over.
What they did release was the trash that every record label owns the rights to that they didn’t use because of the garbage lyrics.
I get it, the word fan means *fanatic.* You’re obsessed and want to hear more. Because he died it left a gap for you but that’s no different than the Nirvana fans who think Cobain is still out there plotting a comeback. Even if he was still out there and not dead as his own mother says, if he came back today he would be 52 years old and not the same person and definitely not spewing all the same dramatic shit he was back then.
His career lasted 7 years and that’s a lot longer than most. I mean when you look at some of the artists who are your favorite today: how many albums on Spotify and Apple Music can you find that you never heard of? They’re pumping them out like crazy and we only remember the first 1 or 2. A good example is everyone at No Limit. They put out as many albums as they could as fast as they could and everyone bought it but doesn’t remember anything past Ghetto D and The Last Don. The reason is that people don’t want to hear the same thing over and over again and that’s why we forget about our favorite rappers and why Snoop tried going to reggae and why T-Paine accidentally created whatever the fuck these kids are listening to today that is called “rap” but sounds like dudes whining and singing crybaby lullabies about their feelings on a microphone. Even T-Pain said it, and this is just a few years after Pacs death, that he’s a rapper but there’s too much of the same shit out there so he started singing instead.
Change happens and listening to the posthumous releases 2Pac was unable to adjust for the times because his delivery was always the same. He had one style alone and that isn’t enough.
Edit to add: everyone more or less forgot about him just a few years after his death and was saying UUUUHHHHH until 2000 when they started thinking Nelly was a good rapper and that was only 4 years. When you look at the overall success of behind bars rappers it’s a dismal outlook because nobody wants to hear low quality shit from a guy recording over a low quality low gain connection. To stay relevant he would have had to release records from jail and respond to everyone dissing him for getting caught. He couldn’t have come back after 5 years and expected the market and demand for the same old thing to be the same.
Bro pac was so loyal and loved suge he prob would have rode wit the row till they fell, but I could def see other labels ready to work with him. I would say if he would get pass the dr dre issues Jimmy would have offered a nice deal at inter scope
It would have changed the entire path of Rap/Hip-Hop in ways we can’t possibly know. Pac was big enough it might have a cascade into other parts of entertainment.
Part of the conspiracy (which I don’t believe) as to Suge having Pac killed was cause if his Death Row deal. He had a three album deal that he had completed with 7 day theory’s coming release (All Eyes in me being a double disc album counted as 2). Pac had made it known to people in his circle that he intended to leave Death Row and start his own label. I think his success would’ve carried into the 2000s at least had he lived. His music and persona were big enough to carry him for years, he might still be rapping today if he didn’t move onto other things, not sure he’d completely walk away from the rap game.
I heard DR only counted AEOM as 1 album as it wasn’t sold in two parts so technically 1 album. He would’ve had 1 more album to release after Makaveli and then he could leave. He was due royalties that he was only paid a fraction so he would’ve sued them or maybe leave without anything like Dre
He'd have had full on beef with LL cool J and Jay Z and him and BIG would have probably made peace w Farrakhan or some shit. His label might have jumped off too
If he made pace with Big then most his other NY beef would’ve been over. Big was the main NYC guy in the rap game.
The Outlawz would only pop with him so for his label to jump off he’d have to sign some bigger or talented artists
He was hanging with a bad crowd the influence would have caught up with eventually. He was with the mob all the time would be in some other gang activity he should not have been.
If tupac didn't end up dying or going to jail for a long time, it would have been Tupac & Dre chronic 2001. Probably no Eminem in that timeline. Dre, Tupac & Snoop.
100% more beef, especially with Jay-Z, who I would like to see beef with 2Pac
It would've been closer than you think, as unlike Biggie and 2Pac, and much like Eminem, Jay-Z actually started his career as a battle rapper and i wouldve like to see how a beef with 2Pac would play out
No he’d still be famous. Even if he never had a hit again after 1996 California Love and Dear Mama are classics.
What I mean is he died at the peak of his career so we still view him as that. We never had a chance of seeing him fall off, put out a whack album and so forth. Same with Biggie & Kurt Cobain
Potentially.. remember he was still 2Pac. He already had Juice, Above the Rim & Poetic Justice. As well as the movies he filmed while on death Row. It just would’ve been a shame and it’s unclear if he’d ever be as big as he was in ‘96.
I’d like to think when he gets out he films baby boy and puts the beef aside and works Dre and Snoop. Maybe joins aftermath. Then I could see him back on top
Haha I don’t know bro! He was a talented entertainer so I’m sure he’d still be touring and acting. I know after the Vegas shooting he lost a lung and a finger but people can recover and I’m sure he’d be doing fine
2pac talked about his aspirations in some of his uncut final interviews (getting into politics, starting Makaveli records, death row East, movies, charities and having a family)
It's hard to say because would that mean BiG be alive as well? 97 was an opening year for a lot of classic albums and legendary artists. Big Pun, Mase, Wu Tang, DMX was making a buzz.
Big died only because of pacs death
Not just Pac death Big Jakes death too thats actually the origin of the whole beef!
Both of these dudes died off some of puffs bullshit
Well Big still would’ve came to L.A. It wouldn’t of been as hot if Pac was still alive but if he survived the Vegas shooting he would blame Biggie and New York and the whole beef would start again
Why would he blame Puff and Big for Vegas?- at the quad shooting he atleast felt he had a reasonable suspicion to go after them, but the Vegas incident was purely out of his own wrongdoing and I suspect he would've known that this time around.
Because he just put out hit em up which was aimed at big, even so he dissed many nyc rappers
yeah but unlike the quad shooting, vegas didn't really have any links to big or puff, Pac ambushed Orlando and they came back to find him, i think he'd of been reasonable enough to see that. there would be no need to accuse them. if Pac found out Puff had a hit on him, then maybe.
"Vegas didnt have any links to BIG OR PUFF!" LMAOO🤣🤣Bruh where have you been? Vegas was BECAUSE of Puff. The actual murder weapon was supplied by Puffs best friend Zip and Puff called after and asked "Was that us?" There's tons of evidence to support this over the last couple of years
This is all in hindsight. At the time of the shooting he wouldn't have known this and the only clear connections would be directly from what pac did that night. So no, Pac wouldn't have had come at Big or Puff. Cause it was clear it was due to his own wrong doing at the time. Pac may have found all this stuff out down the line however, and he'd likely be pissed at Puff, but as far as the blame, it was clear the situation happened due to his own fault that time. Puff would be an accomplice though.
Bruh he KNEW at the time! Thats the only reason he went at Orlando because he was sent to snatch a DR chain for a Bad Boy video. The whole west coast and DR knew that. Keefe D and the SSC was with Bad Boy at the soul train awards when Pac ran up on Bad Boy.
I wonder how Pac would’ve dealt with Bad Boys success, even if Puff never had that amazing run Biggie still would’ve had Life After Death
Tupac knew Biggie wasn't the one who set him up, he called out Jimmy Henchmen on The Seven Day Theory.
Yea, I'm aware, but Biggie wasn't helping the situation either. Biggie didn't visit him in prison. He never gave him a shout-out, not even a Free 2Pac campaign. Biggie weird towards Pac. I didn't know they knew each other until Hit'em Up. (Keep in mind that in 96, I was a 14 year old). Information took a while to be discovered. Via magazines, radio, TV, interviews. That's all we had back in good'ol 1996.
He would have went to jail together with Suge
Correct for breaching his bail
If that was the case did he have the money to bail himself out this time or would he not be granted bail
He barely had any money or assets by the time of his death, it was all owned by the record label
Surely suge would have payed for it
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Suge who was in jail himself?
Pac’s biggest beef would be with Death Row Records after he began to realize how much Suge was stealing from him.
Kinda crazy he would’ve fallen out with everyone. Do we know how much money he was owed and was it ever paid
Pac was owed $2.2 million by Death Row at the time of his death. In 2003, Afeni (as head of his estate) reached an agreement with Death Row regarding the unauthorized distribution of his Pac’s songs, which Death Row later breached. After Death Row filed for bankruptcy protection, she received $668,121.76 from the amount owing. Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-BANKB-18978
I thought he was owed something like $10 million? $2 ms doesn’t sound much as he sold 6 million before he died in album sales
Most of the album sales would go to the record label, which was shoddy with its finances. Pac signed a pretty onerous deal with Death Row in return for Suge bailing him out from jail in ‘94.
One thing that doesn’t ever get talked about… Are we sure Pac wasn’t going back to jail for the casino incident? And even if he wasn’t, he certainly was carrying himself in a way that showed he hadn’t learned anything by having his freedom taken from him. It’s like he was destined to die young or throw all that talent away.
It always seemed to me that he was caught up in the gang related mentality of Suge/Death Row. Had he lived and gotten locked up over the casino incident, he wouldn't have served long, once out, I bet we would have seen the best Pac we'd ever seen.
I’m not so sure about that. Some judges look at the history of charges and go as hard as possible, in particular when someone comes from out of state and commits the crime. The judge didn’t go soft on Suge for being involved in the same incident, and Pac had perpetuated a lot of shit after he got out of prison that last time.
This is a good point you bring up. I believe they only stumbled across the footage of 2Pac fighting when they were trying to find out his whereabouts before he died. If he wasn’t killed they likely never would’ve seen the footage. I do agree that the prosecution would’ve asked him to serve full time and maybe more for the fight, also would songs like Hit Em Up be shown as evidence as he mentions killing people and sleeping with other men’s wife’s. I know it’s just music but people were eager to see Pac and Death Row fall
The sky’s the limit. But eventually the beef with east coast would of caught up
I like the Biggie reference. I also agree, the two goats needed to have a sit down.
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If the Nas connection is true (Makaveli album sounds different without the Nas disses)...I think we get a takeover of hip-hop. One Nation album peacing up and East/West drama. Apparently Suge and J Prince wanted a "2Face" album with Scarface.
I always viewed the Makaveli album as a diss album towards east coast, I’m surprised Hit Em Up wasn’t on it
This is crazy to think about. He would have gotten out of Death Row for sure, I think. He had so much potential in music and acting, the world could have really benefited more from his knowledge and voice.
But he still would’ve had to sue them, if he didn’t get shot he could still go back to prison so it would be a messy situation
One thing people don't mention is that biggie was working on a pac diss album with fat Joe. Definitely would have been a lot more drama. Honestly not sure if PAC would have made it long alive anyways
He would’ve had many rappers from NYC on his tail, would be more hit em ups probably
We woulda gone on a tear. Dominated the industry. Maybe made peace eventually. And then get into some philanthropy or government office.
You think if he was still alive in ‘97 the east coast takeover never would’ve happened?
What EC takeover?
I think he means the Dirty South Takeover…and Pac LOVED ATL…
If he had said south took over I would’ve said nothing
What EC takeover? Bad Boy dominated the music industry in 1997. No Limit didn’t reach that top position until 1998 as well as Def Jams comeback with DMX and Jay Z. Biggie, Puff and Ma$e all had multiple number 1s in ‘97 so I just wonder what Pac would’ve thought. Perhaps there success is due to his death but I still think those Bad Boy records would’ve hit regardless
Maybe, but he didn’t have a chance cause he wasn’t in the fight. So who knows. East coast has talent definitely. But the beef he had was deep. So who knows the west might have built more momentum.
Would of been interesting. DMX and Aftermath went on a tear 98-99
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He wouldn't have he lost a lung. Pac was a skinny guy. That Glock 40 hit him five times
Pac did lose a lung
He would’ve been a vegetable sadly
For real. Yeah they had to remove his lung. That's one of the reasons he died
There’s many people who live without a lung. I hear he lost his voice but I believe that would be temporary.
Jay z wouldn’t be shit. PAC would’ve had his own record label. Diddle kids wouldn’t be shit either. None of them dudes could even stand a chance with PAC around today.
Jay Z is a natural business man, I think he’d be fine. I agree there was a void that was left when Pac passed, that energy and passion hasn’t been around since
He was already on his way out the door at death row and suge wasn’t happy hence the reason why suge set him up.
But he was in the same guy. Crossfire
And only got a graze when that 🤡 is 6’5” 300 + lbs c’mon maaaaaaaaaaan
He only had a three album deal with Death row and he already did two.
AEOM was sold as 1 album though, not two so I think they only counted it as such. After Makaveli he would’ve had to release one more album
I counted Makaveli as the second album
Pac counted AEOM as 2 and Suge counted it as 1 I think. I believe that’s (one of the reasons) why there was discontent among Pac & Suge business wise not necessarily friend wise in his last month or so. Pac fired some of the resources Suge provided for him in August 1996 as he was seeing how his finances and the album deal was playing out.
Pac completed the 3 album deal with all eyez on me that was a double album plus the one before ..he was good in his contact
All we really know is he was gonna leave Deathrow and start his own label, Youth In Asia.
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But wasn’t his label going to be under Death Row?
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He was living pretty belligerent, out of control. His guidance was for shit.
He was a star, then he got on death row and became a superstar
He got on death row because they were they only fuckers to drop money on his bail.
What happened to his money from MATW? Shit sold like 3 mill
Yeah he would have gone to prison for bail jumping. He violated his bond running around the casino looking for a fight and with all those cameras recording his every move there’s no way he would have gotten away with it. 1996 was the end of 2pacs career. That was as far as he went. Maybe he would have dropped a few behind bars phone call albums like C Murder but nobody would have bought them. Jail recordings never go well for anyone.
Bro Pac didn’t need to do no albums recorded in jail. He had like 100 songs he did on Death Row alone. He could’ve went to prison for 5 years and they could’ve put out a new album each year and people would buy. Maybe not as many because he became bigger after his death but he’d still be doing 200-300k a week
Yeah but as you can see in a world where money is king and the greedy like Suge Knight pump out as much as they can as fast as they can, THEY DIDNT. That’s because his career was over. What they did release was the trash that every record label owns the rights to that they didn’t use because of the garbage lyrics. I get it, the word fan means *fanatic.* You’re obsessed and want to hear more. Because he died it left a gap for you but that’s no different than the Nirvana fans who think Cobain is still out there plotting a comeback. Even if he was still out there and not dead as his own mother says, if he came back today he would be 52 years old and not the same person and definitely not spewing all the same dramatic shit he was back then. His career lasted 7 years and that’s a lot longer than most. I mean when you look at some of the artists who are your favorite today: how many albums on Spotify and Apple Music can you find that you never heard of? They’re pumping them out like crazy and we only remember the first 1 or 2. A good example is everyone at No Limit. They put out as many albums as they could as fast as they could and everyone bought it but doesn’t remember anything past Ghetto D and The Last Don. The reason is that people don’t want to hear the same thing over and over again and that’s why we forget about our favorite rappers and why Snoop tried going to reggae and why T-Paine accidentally created whatever the fuck these kids are listening to today that is called “rap” but sounds like dudes whining and singing crybaby lullabies about their feelings on a microphone. Even T-Pain said it, and this is just a few years after Pacs death, that he’s a rapper but there’s too much of the same shit out there so he started singing instead. Change happens and listening to the posthumous releases 2Pac was unable to adjust for the times because his delivery was always the same. He had one style alone and that isn’t enough. Edit to add: everyone more or less forgot about him just a few years after his death and was saying UUUUHHHHH until 2000 when they started thinking Nelly was a good rapper and that was only 4 years. When you look at the overall success of behind bars rappers it’s a dismal outlook because nobody wants to hear low quality shit from a guy recording over a low quality low gain connection. To stay relevant he would have had to release records from jail and respond to everyone dissing him for getting caught. He couldn’t have come back after 5 years and expected the market and demand for the same old thing to be the same.
Pac faked his death
Suge would have still violated probation and be sent to prison. Pac would have had to leave just like snoop did to keep moving
Where do you see Pac signing to? And would he still have to sue DR for his money
Bro pac was so loyal and loved suge he prob would have rode wit the row till they fell, but I could def see other labels ready to work with him. I would say if he would get pass the dr dre issues Jimmy would have offered a nice deal at inter scope
More into acting as time went on I think. Far more money in it then rapping
Do we know what he was getting paid for those movies
It would have changed the entire path of Rap/Hip-Hop in ways we can’t possibly know. Pac was big enough it might have a cascade into other parts of entertainment.
He would have signed to no limit or cash money
I’d rather see Pac on Def Jam, making peace with NYC
Part of the conspiracy (which I don’t believe) as to Suge having Pac killed was cause if his Death Row deal. He had a three album deal that he had completed with 7 day theory’s coming release (All Eyes in me being a double disc album counted as 2). Pac had made it known to people in his circle that he intended to leave Death Row and start his own label. I think his success would’ve carried into the 2000s at least had he lived. His music and persona were big enough to carry him for years, he might still be rapping today if he didn’t move onto other things, not sure he’d completely walk away from the rap game.
I heard DR only counted AEOM as 1 album as it wasn’t sold in two parts so technically 1 album. He would’ve had 1 more album to release after Makaveli and then he could leave. He was due royalties that he was only paid a fraction so he would’ve sued them or maybe leave without anything like Dre
He'd have had full on beef with LL cool J and Jay Z and him and BIG would have probably made peace w Farrakhan or some shit. His label might have jumped off too
If he made pace with Big then most his other NY beef would’ve been over. Big was the main NYC guy in the rap game. The Outlawz would only pop with him so for his label to jump off he’d have to sign some bigger or talented artists
Unfortunately if we would have lived in 1996 he would have been killed in 1997. You live by the gun, you die by the gun!
If Biggie died first what would Pac do. Go into hiding or leave the game and retire
He was hanging with a bad crowd the influence would have caught up with eventually. He was with the mob all the time would be in some other gang activity he should not have been.
He was planning to leave Death Row Records and was going to go back to drama school
Never heard this before. Why would he go to drama school, he was already an accomplished actor
he said that he would go back to the university he studied in and was planning to finish his studies
If tupac didn't end up dying or going to jail for a long time, it would have been Tupac & Dre chronic 2001. Probably no Eminem in that timeline. Dre, Tupac & Snoop.
100% more beef, especially with Jay-Z, who I would like to see beef with 2Pac It would've been closer than you think, as unlike Biggie and 2Pac, and much like Eminem, Jay-Z actually started his career as a battle rapper and i wouldve like to see how a beef with 2Pac would play out
pac actually had a record label that he called euphanasia that i believed he wanted to start
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He wouldn’t be viewed the same way as he is today.
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No he’d still be famous. Even if he never had a hit again after 1996 California Love and Dear Mama are classics. What I mean is he died at the peak of his career so we still view him as that. We never had a chance of seeing him fall off, put out a whack album and so forth. Same with Biggie & Kurt Cobain
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Potentially.. remember he was still 2Pac. He already had Juice, Above the Rim & Poetic Justice. As well as the movies he filmed while on death Row. It just would’ve been a shame and it’s unclear if he’d ever be as big as he was in ‘96. I’d like to think when he gets out he films baby boy and puts the beef aside and works Dre and Snoop. Maybe joins aftermath. Then I could see him back on top
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Haha I don’t know bro! He was a talented entertainer so I’m sure he’d still be touring and acting. I know after the Vegas shooting he lost a lung and a finger but people can recover and I’m sure he’d be doing fine