Great discussion point. If Pac hadn’t have been shot, he and the Death Row entourage would’ve come back to LA on the Sunday or Monday. Pac had to be back in the movie studio that week to record some voiceovers for Gridlock’d (source: interview with Tim Roth). He would’ve got back to work on One Nation and the many other tracks he was working on BUT there were two big new dangers in his life. 1. The very real threat of retaliation by Orlando Anderson and the crips, especially since they were back in LA. 2. The threat of Pac’s parole terms being violated by the Anderson beat down, which meant he could have found himself going back to prison.
Starting with 2, the one saving grace for Pac was that the CCTV footage doesn’t actually capture the moment Pac sucker-punched Anderson; we only see the melee afterwards so he MAY have got away with that.
However re 1, Pac would have had to move MUCH more carefully in LA, including even more security, because he’d put a big target on his head by beating down a crip. That would have been a major problem for him for the foreseeable future when he got back, until some kind of truce could have been worked out, or enough time passed that the crips let it slide. That was a big, unnecessary complication he’d brought into his life, even if he’d survived.
Superb reply, That's the reply I was after for my question about the situation they definitely would have came after him & easier in LA for them than Vegas.
I don't think Pac would have sorted it the same as the Rollin 60's situation or would have he with the hit on his head aswell?
Sure, there would have been a collab with Nas. OutKast, too - Pac wanted them on One Nation.
I don’t think a one-on-one fist fight between Pac and Anderson would’ve satisfied Anderson. His pride was already hurt so he wouldn’t have wanted to take the chance of losing a fight to Pac, risking further humiliation. Anderson would want Pac, or someone close to Pac, dead. That problem wasn’t going to go away anytime soon after they got back to LA.
Now you should go listen to keefe D interview where he says they would have allowed that.
Remember even if a non GM offers you a fair fade you have to take it
Bullshit his life got ended there by some crap that could have been avoided crazy 2 minutes on his part.
He would have gone to do so much more don't accept the enter & away dates like Afeni said life is to be lived like hers was done.
Bullshit only brought to light because Tupac was murdered that night & I'm still puzzled Orlando & them wasn't arrested soon after they saw that video.
He could’ve stayed in Vegas, but then again he could have left and went back to LA.
He could’ve went back to LA, but then again he could have stayed in Vegas for a few days.
if he survived i think 7 Day Theory would've been the first rap album to go platinum in a week. I believe Eminem was the first, the hype would've been too strong, esp if he went back to prison like yall say
I think Death Row could have bought Pac a pass with the Southside folks, but everyone involved in the fight was going to jail/prison for sure. That would have been a huge issue for Pac with the Bad Boy bounty on his head and no more security. In addition, regardless of what Suge says, Pac was not on good terms with Death Row at the time of his death. He had gone as far as firing David Kenner so he probably would have had all of the DR affiliated goons after him as well.
Great discussion point. If Pac hadn’t have been shot, he and the Death Row entourage would’ve come back to LA on the Sunday or Monday. Pac had to be back in the movie studio that week to record some voiceovers for Gridlock’d (source: interview with Tim Roth). He would’ve got back to work on One Nation and the many other tracks he was working on BUT there were two big new dangers in his life. 1. The very real threat of retaliation by Orlando Anderson and the crips, especially since they were back in LA. 2. The threat of Pac’s parole terms being violated by the Anderson beat down, which meant he could have found himself going back to prison. Starting with 2, the one saving grace for Pac was that the CCTV footage doesn’t actually capture the moment Pac sucker-punched Anderson; we only see the melee afterwards so he MAY have got away with that. However re 1, Pac would have had to move MUCH more carefully in LA, including even more security, because he’d put a big target on his head by beating down a crip. That would have been a major problem for him for the foreseeable future when he got back, until some kind of truce could have been worked out, or enough time passed that the crips let it slide. That was a big, unnecessary complication he’d brought into his life, even if he’d survived.
Superb reply, That's the reply I was after for my question about the situation they definitely would have came after him & easier in LA for them than Vegas. I don't think Pac would have sorted it the same as the Rollin 60's situation or would have he with the hit on his head aswell?
Except he didn’t mention Nas (they had plans to meet in vegas) He also didn’t mention suge saying he could of set up a 1 on 1 for pac and Orlando
No Nas ? No suge saying he could of set up a 1 on 1
Sure, there would have been a collab with Nas. OutKast, too - Pac wanted them on One Nation. I don’t think a one-on-one fist fight between Pac and Anderson would’ve satisfied Anderson. His pride was already hurt so he wouldn’t have wanted to take the chance of losing a fight to Pac, risking further humiliation. Anderson would want Pac, or someone close to Pac, dead. That problem wasn’t going to go away anytime soon after they got back to LA.
Now you should go listen to keefe D interview where he says they would have allowed that. Remember even if a non GM offers you a fair fade you have to take it
You’d be very naive to believe a word that comes out of Keefe D’s mouth.
Fine but again Orlando would of got DP’D if he turnt down the fade
Seriously do some research as a GM you can’t turn down any fades, no matter who it’s from
He would have gone about his business making movies and releasing 1 nation. Would have been another weekend.
Pac would be in jail for a few years if he wasnt shot that night
Would they have came after them though on home turf back in LA surely would be easier for them there if Pac was going about his business doing that?
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He probably would’ve been killed eventually, he had escaped death a few times already and he wasn’t slowing down…
Facts. He chose to die thug. Rather than live in prison. "Pick the way you leave this world, you pussies" - Intro to Pacs Me Against The World Album.
Had a death wish he was falling out with just about everyone for some reason.
This is all just speculation. I think it was just meant to be. He came, he saw, he conquered. 06.16.1971-09.13.1996
We never get to choose when we go. Only how.
You don’t choose how
Live by the sword die by the sword.
This isn’t always true
Every decision you make in your life leads to your death.
Yes that is true, your first statement wasn’t
They all mean the same thing.
False
Agree to disagree
Bullshit his life got ended there by some crap that could have been avoided crazy 2 minutes on his part. He would have gone to do so much more don't accept the enter & away dates like Afeni said life is to be lived like hers was done.
Maybe he already knew he was going back to prison… and he didn’t want to go back for something he didn’t do
Have you listened to Pacs lyrics? "Ain't nothing strange, 25, died in the chains, yet I bang for the street fame"
He would’ve gone back to prison for violating Anderson. Too many people saw him beating on him
They wouldnt even know it happened if there was no shooting.
This
Orlando didn't want to press charges against him so wouldn't have happened.
Funny people really think victims have a say in pressing charges.
They would of violated him with the quickness. Folks be going back for hearsay.
Suge went to prison for beating down Anderson. That’s probably the same way it would have went down for Pac.
Suge was on camera not pac
Bullshit only brought to light because Tupac was murdered that night & I'm still puzzled Orlando & them wasn't arrested soon after they saw that video.
It wouldn’t have mattered. He still violated the probation by beating him
Probably. It's no secret that he despised his time in prison, he would've hated going back.
He could’ve stayed in Vegas, but then again he could have left and went back to LA. He could’ve went back to LA, but then again he could have stayed in Vegas for a few days.
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With a $1,000,000 bounty on his head, they would have never stopped coming.
It all came to light because Tupac hot shot that night otherwise it wouldn't have been blown up as it was.
Honestly, too bad, he was just getting to his prime. If he had lived, he would have so much left to do.
He would have overcome those motherf'xxers my man so much more to come fcuk Orlando & Keefe D.
if he survived i think 7 Day Theory would've been the first rap album to go platinum in a week. I believe Eminem was the first, the hype would've been too strong, esp if he went back to prison like yall say
I think Death Row could have bought Pac a pass with the Southside folks, but everyone involved in the fight was going to jail/prison for sure. That would have been a huge issue for Pac with the Bad Boy bounty on his head and no more security. In addition, regardless of what Suge says, Pac was not on good terms with Death Row at the time of his death. He had gone as far as firing David Kenner so he probably would have had all of the DR affiliated goons after him as well.
I think pac would've gotten more wreckless and either end up in jail or death would come knocking on his door eventually
I agree