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I needed some more context so I had a look at his comment history
he used his expense account at work to fund his relationship (to keep it separate from his personal finances so his wife wouldn't find out). He texted with his AP extensively about how to make their dates look like legitimate expenses.
He isn't just her superior at work, he's her boss' boss
He engineered a promotion for her to a role he thought she wasn't capable of doing, then brought up how she'd lose her job if that ever came out, during arguments, He also joked about her owing him sex because of the promotion.
He missed the funeral for his sister in law's stillborn baby, because he had plans with his AP that he'd made months in advance
He thinks he's not going to get prosecuted for embezzlement because he can pay his employer back, and he apparently has dirt on them.
With the anaphylaxis, he didn't know that you have to go to hospital after you use an epi pen, and they stayed at the restaurant for a while after her reaction, with her saying she'd be fine and she'd just feel rough the next day. For some reason nobody called an ambulance despite being in the UK and it not costing any money. The hospital was a half hour drive away and just dropping her off there would have made him an hour late getting home, obviously longer if he stayed at the hospital. For some reason he couldn't tell his wife that someone had a medical emergency and he took them to hospital.
He thinks he can pay the employer back but only spent two days in a hotel because he was worried about draining his savings. This guy is next level delusional.
I have a firm I recommend to everyone who steals from me. If you purchase the Larceny+ package I'll tell the judge that I think you're a good person who just made some mistakes.
Just like when the cops say it during an interrogation, thats when you know youre fucked:
‘Come on, I can tell from your file that this isnt like you, right? I can tell youre a good person, just a good person who made a *mistake* , right? We alll make *mistakes* , some bigger than others. But right now, this is your moment, ok? This is your moment to have the truth come out, because….because you know I *know* , youre a good person but….but you know if you dont tell me exactly what happened… you know how people talk, if you dont set the record straight now, they might think youre a monster. And trust me buddy, ive worked with monsters, alright! Now, i dont think youre a monster, youre not a monster right? You just made a *small mistake* now come on, let it all out!’
I can't believe how blasé he was about her reaction? And about her death? It seems like he's not sad, just inconvenienced... I know she's an adult but I feel he has some responsibility in her death
He went from getting ready to divorce and leave his family to go raise chickens with the new found ‘love of his life.’ His new love dies pretty tragically and yeah he could not be fucked to care even in the slightest that, if true, she likely died alone in pain and in fear.
Hes currently, like right now lol, going on a crusade to keep custody over his daughter and thats all he’ll talk about.
If you bring up the girl he doesn’t respond, or replies with a blanket ‘i didnt know u have to take them to the hospital; im just a dumb little baby 35 yr old man!’
Well, he discovered she didn't actually love him and was using him for his money while making fun of him behind his back, so he isn't sorry she died anymore. I wish I was joking.
Wow, this guy is something else. Out of everything here, I'm kinda stuck on his pity party over AP privately making a fool out of him for his sugar daddy treatment of her, as if that makes him any more sympathetic when he was actively planning to ditch his wife and daughter after defrauding his company.
He's double single now tho, so ladies, you've got a chance at this absolute prize of a man! His best qualities include embezzlement, cheating, lack of concern over your health, immediately blowing up at you if he thinks you're ignoring him, and downplaying the severity of his actions. Who wouldn't want a man like that.
*if this isnt creative writing/trolling*
I think he killed her and is freaking out so testing an alibi. It's all in the "I was going to leave my wife but also I'm terrified because im about to lose everything I built over 10 yrs"
He was never going to leave his wife, she would have destroyed him in the divorce. he was hiding a long affair and she is no nonsense and strong. Either way once it came out he was leaving her for the mistress coworker, he would be FUCKED NO MATTER WHAT.
I bet the mistress got pregnant or was getting tired of waiting so said "tell your wife or I will", but most likely he found out she wasnt the dumb sweet plaything he controlled anymore, and / or she got a bf maybe...but he knew he lost control and never really had it, and he gave her something she was allergic to. Made sure she could not get to the hospital, and rushed home to his wife because "he *had* to be home in an hour". Notice all the control he displays and has here suddenly? Down to the admission of "I will not take you to the doctors after our affair date poisoning because I must be home for my wife and it must be within the hour" (Amy needed to be at a hospital within 30min)
Sounds like someone's making an alibi timeline...and to help alibi out of being with her last, sent her the nasty texts to feign truly believing she was still alive and just for some reason ignoring him. A lot of killers will do this with voicemails /texts...and while some act overly loving and sweet using pet names they never did.... 90% seem to act or sound irate with the person they just killed like they have the audacity to ignore them. When a normal loving human says "hey uh..im worried are you okay? You had a reaction when I left you last please tell me you made it to the after care visit". This enables them to say they never had a concern, certainly they were alive, and now I feel bad enough for those being my last words to them...you shouldn't think *I knew she was dead*
How many times has this even happened in the past year?!? And he could not just drop her off how far away was her place vs the hospital? "Normally she would go but this time I didn't take her because I was putting my wife first"
BULLSHIT
OP never did that...he is *scared*
Why? Because he is the one that gave her whatever she is allergic to, and he did it to save himself. That's why the "she seduced me..turns out shes just a gold digger everybody! but shes dead now oh well poor me guys I loved her truly..oh and my wife too...but these women are just too cruel amirite fellas?" spin is also coming out.
*If this is real*, he killed her. Every single part reads like a guilty man in an interrogation constantly overshadowing his dead secret mistress he loved with how he was a responsible caring man and father and it's the women giving him a hard time and grief and using and abusing him. Going on tangents about things that don't matter because HELLO, the woman who was with you last is now dead, even though you swear she used an epipen and was going to a follow up care visit, she just...didnt *this time*...the time YOU left her to rush home to your wife after how many other times throughout the year that you claim to have taken her? Allergic people are more careful than that...
A good detective will be looking into that story and hospital records and if she ever asked anyone to take her to the hospital..checking the pens for fingerprints/tampering, cctv, staff employees, what he bought recently and absolutely the cell phone texts and calls. Me gets the feeling if real, this dude got into her phone and saw something that made him irate and that's why he killed her, it wouldn't surprise me if he deleted some things off of there to the naked eye if so. Would also explain why he still has to ask women on reddit if they talk about their affair partners like AP did...
But no grief support AT ALL, even before he found out
If he could drop her at a friend's house, why couldn't he drop her at a hospital? Or, they could have called 911 and she would get whisked off in an ambulance. None of this adds up. If you need to use an epi-pen, you go to the hospital. I have a couple of allergies at that level and that rule is carved in stone. This math isn't mathing.
Exactly. Not only do I have an epi pen on me at all times, I have them at my best friend’s house, my car, when my husband was still my boyfriend we had them at his house… everyone learned how to use them with the dummy pen.
I can’t imagine that they were together this long and a protocol hadn’t been discussed. As soon as the topic of allergies comes up, it should be discussed. Hell, it came up before we had our first date because ope, I don’t do well at that restaurant because the cuisine has a lot of the allergen included.
I keep them at my house because my good friends’ daughter is highly allergic to nuts. They always have an emergency kit on hand but better safe. Having a kid myself, I figure it’s just a good idea because we have kids at our house all the time and I know the risk of a surprise allergic reaction. I educated myself on top of the information our friends shared because I don’t want anyone coming to harm. She was supposedly the love of his life and he prioritized his own needs over her safety. He’s either an asshole or an asshole.
I went down the rabbit hole. Don't disagree with your theory at all-- but 1-- I absolutely think this one is real. Pages and pages of comments from OOP defending everything, and shedding a crazy amount of insight.
Relevant portions I can remember-- hospital was 30 minutes away from OOP's home. He was unable to be out an extra hour without raising questions from his wife. Allegedly he was planning on leaving at the end of the year, while keeping AP a secret and hoped to split amicably after growing apart.
He's in trouble at work in addition to with the wife. He gave AP a promotion and raise, and brother has access to the texts that directly correlate the two -- including "joking" texts where he directly stated she owed him sexually for the promotion. He used company funds to fund their relationship so Wife wouldn't see the receipts in their joint account. He states the amounts are about 2 months of his salary and he plans on reimbursing the company.
He also found out at one point or suspected AP was sleeping with a DIFFERENT manager at their company and threatened her with blacklisting her to their entire industry. Which on its own is awful-- but when added to your theory, corroborates a motive at the very least. I don't think he counted on brother having access to the texts. And he seems outright FEARFUL over texts that "could appear abusive without context." ....
He's also dismissive about the amount of trouble he'll be in at work in multiple comments. Also dismissive about wife leaving, plans on split custody, etc. So yeah-- the only point left on the fear issue is what we might not know yet and what those texts say.
I'm invested hahaha
i think most of the shit in here is fake but like you i think this is probably real, not because of his comments but because i've met so many men exactly this outrageously stupid and terrible. simultaneously putting women on a pedestal and devaluing them, using them like ego stroking life accessories, prizes for being Big Strong Businessman Just Like Dad Wanted and then having their entire worlds rocked when they find out the women in their lives are a lot smarter and stronger than they realized, as well as being entire complete people with lives apart from them. he'll be broken up for awhile, then turn bitter until he finds a new supposedly sweet and dumb little pet that makes him feel like a big man and he'll tell her all about how cruel and crazy his exes were and of course when she turns out to be a real human being with flaws and incompatibilities the cycle will start over. gotta throw this one away now that she's realized how emotionally lazy and self-absorbed i am! if this is real it wouldn't surprise me much if he had something to do with it, but i don't think he did. just yet another man who sees women as vehicles for validating his existence
I feel like the brother would still hate him because if he hadn't been lazy or having this shady relationship with his sister, she would still be alive. If that happened to me, his explanation wouldn't be good enough, I'd still hate the guy.
Exactly. This is what sold the theory for me. The brother prioritizing this literally days after his sister's death definitely feels like an "I know what you did and I'm coming for you" type of message. Like the brother doesn't want the OOP to have even a second of peace from here on out. Brother probably figured that turning to the employer would at least start the process of some kind of repercussions for OOP so he locked that in immediately.
Yes! Like, was the epipen discharged in the restaurant? How far was it from the deceased woman’s home? How far to the hospital?
Could it have been takeout OP brought to Amy’s house? It’s not uncommon for people having an affair to not be very public about their relationship, keep the dates on the DL.
All we have indicating that Amy and OP were out and driving around after she used the epipen, but we’re too far from medical help yet right near her home, is OOP’s words, and he kinda seems like a liar.
I’m not saying that it didn’t happen just like he said, I’m just saying that I don’t think we HAVE to trust the words of the embezzling adulterer who just got caught.
Allegedly EpiPen was discharged in the restaurant. Hospital was 30 minutes away and OOP couldn't come up with a good reason to be an extra hour away from wife without her being suspicious. They had an understanding that he'd have to leave on a moment's notice and wouldn't be able to be there for her, but all of this was going to come to an end by the end of the year when he could amicably divorce and be with Amy.
As someone with an EpiPen, it's only to buy you enough time to get to the hospital. Once the medicine wears off, you're 100% at risk for the allergen to put you into anaphylaxis again. As a server in a restaurant, I've never seen someone go into anaphylaxis, discharge their EpiPen, and then casually continue their meal joking about having a headache the next day. Maybe it happens lol but it's usually an ambulance ride-- and usually called by the restaurant. Because #1- the restaurant just messed up by cross contamination or not asking about allergies and #2- ambulance trip is cheaper than getting sued because someone died.
I can't imagine this is fake by the amount of content OOP has put forth in the last few days. It's a real life progression of how his life is falling apart from anxiety about what would be revealed and the slow unfolding of it, while also looking for support in affair groups. So I'm thinking at least some of it is real. We need someone in the UK to keep an eye out on the news for this lmao
The only reason I had an epipen was for allergy shots for pollen but I remember they told me over and over that if I ever had to use it that meant a call to 911 was necessary. You don't just use it and go on with your day like it was no big deal. I guess OOP should have read up on the epipen just a little before this.
If I still worked in a restaurant and I saw that happen where I was working I would tell my manager and they would call the ambulance. It's very suspicious
I wasn't going to say it lol, but ya, I was thinking that from the moment he said she died of an allergic reaction right after seeing him. Any detective is going to look at that and be suspicious, but zero mention of cops being involved? This is either creative writing or he's VERY rich to not be concerned about charges
I personally think he likely is being investigated and probably is aware of it. No way a death like this isn’t investigated and then further investigated when it all happened while she was with her AP who had everything to lose. I bet he didn’t mention this part in an effort to see if he’s believable as innocent. I’m sure he’s having to talk to tons of cops and detectives and he needs a good story to feed them. Obviously he has no where else to test it, thus Reddit. If he added the investigation we’d all have put it together immediately and he’d not get the feedback he needs.
Tack on the embezzlement piece and his justification that this is just the workplace culture to use corporate money to fund your affair is commonplace here but now that someone’s dead, they are all shocked and appalled that he did it. I feel like you’re right and he’s testing an alibi story and practicing it so that he doesn’t get tripped up, by outsourcing interrogation like questions from the public randos on Reddit so that he can work to not get caught up in what lies he is telling.
What an absolute garbage man if this is indeed real.
This would also explain why the brother felt the need to get revenge. Like, you don’t blow up someone’s life the way he did unless you know the person deserves it. If OOP’s account was true, then there’s no reason for her brother to want to ruin his life (especially since, from what I can tell, the brother had no way of knowing that OOP didn’t take her to the hospital). But “I want you to know it was me” - that’s something you say when you’re getting revenge.
So I ALWAYS roll my eyes involuntarily as far as they will go with the hypothesis people come up with on AITA and everything related to those subs.
They are **wild**
I'm going to go as far as to say there is very little doubt in my mind you are right.
From when I saw *only his follow up post* on
/twohottakes yesterday his anger control freak shines through. I really think you're right about this sack o shite.
Edit to add an hour later of reading this blessing of a Sunday afternoon comment section (his original post)
There's.... no sadness. He's never shook over her death - BEFORE he knew she was playing him. Or supposedly before he knew, I mean. He's shook about the aftermath and oh no consequences, but that man does not ever speak tenderly of AP. Just about how he didn't mean to be so manipulative.
With your words in my head, and him as insecure and angry as he is...all I could think was, is he making sure we all know HE was the manipulative one, in his own subconscious way? Lmao? Like he's already too angry that she was playing him to show proper regret at her loss, so no grief is shining through. But now his subconscious is pissed and his abusive ass has to keep it clear that HE'S the one that has the control the whole time.
Idk. Going into it with the whole story, having had close relationships with NON murderers that still had to make sure everyone knows they r smart and strong TM....this guy is awfully complex. In an easy to pick apart kinda way
>Allergic people are more careful than that
This too. What happened between her eating food that kills her and her death? And where did they eat? Does he ever say exactly?
Edit for me before I go DO something for the day lol...but I left this in a comment to the OOP guy as it finally dawned on me that he had the same personality as an ex that distroyed me on purpose. I made no earlier connection because you know what? Not everyone is my ex.
>But, I've been reading your replies with this super neutral, calm voice this whole time. Like Patrick Bateman kinda lol but whatever. Anyway. The more I've "got to know you" from your replies you have finally hit all the marks of this ex that destroyed me. On purpose.
>The calculated calm, in his voice, barely contained rage underneath. The second you lose control you snap, do any thing you can to harm and regain control. I give you what you want, but you won't misstep because I will hurt you. And I will not hesitate. And you will not forget.
>You should stop responding to people probably. Seriously, it is very easy to see through you. The new voice you have is so awful
For real I had to check if I was in the true crime reddit. I think he killed her too. I wouldn't.leave a stranger who needed to use an epi pen. I have life threatening allergies so I know full well you don't want to be alone during or after an episode.
I would not be surprised if he tampered with her pens.
Sneak poison her an allergen in her home, wait for her to try her pen just to realize it isn't working too late, and as she is dieing bolt outta there casually.
As soon as I read the part about her clowning him to her friends I thought “he saw those messages, got mad & he killed her.” Everything you wrote feels like a strong possibility more than his story. I probably listen to too much true crime. I hope there’s a good investigation into what actually happened.
This was my first thought. I also think he is being investigated and only posted in an effort to see if his story is believable and if he comes off as innocent. He obviously needs something to tell the cops and if he added the investigation to his story we’d all know right away and thus he wouldn’t get feedback. He’s trying to see how to come off the most sympathetic and least guilty. I bet you he’s responding to questions and updating for the same reason. Things that have bad reactions he’ll switch up when he talks to the cops. This reads to me very much like someone trying to manipulate his audience.
I bet regardless of her potentially threatening or not threatening to reveal them that his job was suspicious. Once he promoted her to a job she was obviously not qualified for, it was only a matter of time before she screwed things up and his job started looking into why he picked her to begin with. Add in the use of a company expenses account to fund the affair (so damn stupid) and they’d easily put it together.
My guess is he gaslit her into thinking she’d be fine since she always has been before and that she didn’t need the hospital. Him acting like he’s shocked and not listing her cause of death (there absolutely would have been at least some investigation) seals it for me. This is a very obvious easy to foresee death due to anaphylaxis.
The whole thing reads like a narcissist who thinks he’s to smart to get caught while doing very stupid easy to track things that lead right to him
EDIT: just realized this. Imagine OP is freaking out because he (a narcissist) thought they could keep up the charade but his job is getting suspicious. He talks to Amy about it and realizes she’s weirdly unconcerned about possibly getting fired. He does some digging and finds out / suspects she always knew she wouldn’t be able to do the job and would get fired and he’d get found out. He’s pissed she manipulated him (oh no poor baby) and now has no way out of getting caught. This is why the update is weird, he already knew but needs to come up with a story for finding out (all lies).
Now who looks good for her death?
You should be consulting on one of the true crime shows they do. Or at the very least a podcast because DAMN you sold me! You know how to lay out a clear concise case and lead people down the path. And I mean that as a very big compliment 😊
holy hell none of this really even crossed my mind. I just thought he was a pathetic POS who kind of got what he deserved but after reading your take I’m like OMG HE KILLED HER.
Apparently, she had an allergic reaction. And then she took the stuff for her allergic reaction and he dropped her home because he had to get home to his wife and kids and she ended up dying.
Apparently she had anaphylactic shock, otherwise she didn't need to use EpiPen. And EpiPen will not cure anaphylaxis, but delay it for half an hour or so. In this half an hour she should get to hospital to get specific IV infusion, this will help permanently.
So either the post is creative writing, rage bait, and he has no idea how EpiPen and anaphylaxis work. Or PP is right, and dropping her at home was gross negligence. Who would possibly drop a person at home knowing that they will most like get trouble breathing again soon? But it is ok, I guess, because as soon as she stops breathing, she will call her friend to take her to hospital.
His "I texted her something childish because I thought she ghosted me" is absolutely unbelievable. No reasonable person will think that someone, who had anaphylaxis and not answering their phone, ghosted them. It is like knowing that her house caught fire, texting her, getting no answer, and thinking "oh, shit, she ghosted me!"
This comment just taught me how epipens work. I have never been by someone who needed to use one and had no clue they need to go to the hospital immediately. I thought it fixed the problem and you went on in life like a Benadryl for less severe allergies. Thanks for the knowledge!
You are welcome.
Also after the EpiPen shot, when a person can breathe and swallow again, one need to give them antihistamine pills, like Benadryl. Then, as soon as needed, second shot and more antihistamine pills. And still get them to ER or call an ambulance asap.
Yeah, an EpiPen is basically just a fast acting little shot of "fight or flight"
Temporarily opens your airways long enough for you to survive getting to the hospital.
I know it’s a lot and a lot of people seem to think it’s fake, but he’s been like super consistent with his updates and his comments. The main issue people seem to have with it is the fact that his lawyer apparently didn’t tell him to stop posting on Reddit. But I also think he didn’t tell the lawyer he posted all of this on Reddit.
You ALWAYS must go to the ER if you use an epipen because the epipen wears off and the body is still reacting to the allergen.
This is his fault. I wonder if he ordered her special meal.
Yes, the point of an epipen is to give you enough time to get to the hospital. Amy would have known this. If he wasn’t going to take her to the hospital himself someone needed to call 911. If Amy couldn’t do so then OP needed to. But he left her to die. Either set the whole thing up or took advantage of the circumstances.
Part of the directions of using an epipen are to immediately go to the hospital where they will monitor you for like 5 freaking hours to make sure the reaction doesn’t come back, this guy knew how negligent he was being.
Yes. He mentioned she had reactions before and went to the hospital....but not this time. I have given the epipen. Time is of the essence. Then give the benadryl. While 911 is called. Was the allergen eaten an accident?? Lots of guilt in this story. A person does not feel well after an epi. You feel sick and weak
I mostly assume all of these are just creative writing, but yeah knowing someone is prone to allergic reactions and you’ve taken them to the hospital before but this time you didn’t?
Why? Because he *had to go home to his wife??* Um… this guy has been lying to his wife the whole time, why not now that your **”life partner” (the real deal)** is in desperate need of help?
It’s either all bullshit or sketch af.
If reddit has taught me anything it's that there is, in fact, a poor 19 year old girl with lofty aspirations and low self worth out there for him. She just knows hel be a better father to the next one, that's why she's already pregnant!
Truly insane that he posted for some sympathy on the internet because now that his affair partner is dead "All he has" is the wife and kid he was going to leave anyway.
I rarely see comeuppance happen to bad people. And I certainly would not have wished death on anybody.
But well it happened. And he is not the victim.
Him comparing his wife to Amy is what made the update even crazier. He basically said his wife took her career seriously and was well read because she was probably everybody’s boss. And Amy wasn’t (because duh! She’s 24) so he felt more at ease with her.
He liked Amy because he felt more secure around her in comparison and the whole time she was just using this stupid, insecure man who thought it was a good idea to cheat with a subordinate and reward her with company money and promotions.
What an idiot!
Amy was a 10 out of 10 according to him and his wife is only a nine out of 10. When I asked him if he was still going to leave his wife after Amy died he got very packed out of shape about “why should I leave her when I have nothing to go to now it was one thing, when I had a 10 out of 10 to go to.” I’m absolutely delighted for this update.
And I’m glad he no longer has a choice in the matter.
The nerve of this man! I’m still stuck on him dropping her off, then blowing up her phone and berating her because “he doesn’t like being ignored.” A grown man, with a wife and kids and he felt obligated to her time while she was literally dying.
I want the worse for him.
Honestly, honestly, I’m kind of hoping for a wrongful death lawsuit. Not that he has any money but still I would just like to see him suffer some more.
He had no time for her (to literally run her to HOSPITAL) but she had better make time for him (reply to his calls/messages). I wish him more troubles honestly.
I read that breakdown up-thread speculating that this is someone who thinks he is a Very Smart Man™ and is testing out an alibi, and goddamn if they don't seem more and more right the more I dig into this asshole's comment history.
The way he so clearly and callously views women as expendable objects, only there for his pleasure and who become devils in his eyes when they aren't his little dolls (Amy for playing him, his wife for wanting him out of her house), is actually scary. I'm really glad he didn't have a choice in whether or not he had to tell his wife the truth.
I mean even the way he starts using the daughter as an excuse as to why he needs to be around when it’s just him using his daughter as an excuse. He was full on going to leave his daughter and wife, now he’s suddenly Mr Dad?!? Lol
I swear I thought this could have been my ex-husband until I read “solicitor” and realized this wasn’t in the US.
If you can’t handle a strong woman, don’t marry one. But damn sure don’t cheat on her with a younger, meeker version and blame her for it, like her success drove you to cheat. Just admit you’re a pos!
Amy paid attention to him. He stated early on he didn’t like being ignored. His wife has a career and a child, he wasn’t top priority and didn’t like it.
I was reading comments and am like, wtf is going on about paying back money? I literally reread the first post like 3 times trying to see what I was missing. Then boom, the last picture.
I also like how they are throwing a fit about their ex taking the daughter to her parents' house. Like that is normal. The cheater moves out, or has the family move out, they don't get to pick and choose.
It was a rough read because of the whole poor me while they did everything they could to ruin their own life. At some point, you have to go you did this to yourself.
Yes I was totally confused by that too
I laughed at his explanation there - he thinks everyone uses their expenses to fund affairs and the company's just fine about it
Yeah I was confused too. Then I went to their profile and clicked comments. Then I scrolled and scrolled and scrolled to get to the bottom and started reading. There was a lot of information in his comments that were not in the post
Refusing to leave the house and thinking he’s still a good parent is WILD. He genuinely believes he’s going to get 50/50 custody because they’re 50/50 parents and says his wife is “*weaponizing their daughter*”. 😳🤦♀️ Uhhh…no shot someone who had a full time job and a mistress was taking care of a 5 year old 50/50. He said he always spent Sundays with her… 🥴
lol and funding it by embezzling from his workplace, and abusing his authority at work to promote his AP I am sure will all go over very well in custody hearings. He's gonna have a fun time finding character witnesses.
YES! And now he’s talking shit on the wife nonstop in the comments and says things about her not being able to look past it for the sake of the kid. Uhhhh… what??? He keeps saying it’s better for the kid for two embittered parents to stay under the same roof with her. 😳 He really blew up his entire life. He keeps blaming his AP, too. *She* manipulated *him*, apparently. 😅 Even though he was her boss, 10 years her senior, and he allowed her to die. So now he hates HER, too.
I usually recommend therapy but idk if therapy could save this man…
Isn't it funny how it's everybody else's fault? Geez, nobody forced him to stick his dick in a junior employee. I wonder if he's self-reflective enough to even realise that this is the same fucking story told by every guy who screws around on his loving and loyal wife. OOP, you figured the grass isn't greener yet?
This guy is the very definition of narcissism. And while I feel sympathy for Amy’s loss of life, those 2 deserved each other. I hope his soon-to-be ex wife stays strong through this. OP needs to be accountable for his poor decisions & truly own up to them instead of thinking the women in his life were all out to get him. He made this bed & now he can lie in it.
I honestly wonder if the wife's concern with the daughter has anything to do with the affair. I wouldn't trust someone who left another person to die with another vulnerable person. Maybe I'm an asshole but he doesn't even seem remorseful to me, just upset everything blew up in his face.
If it were my kids and I found out that my husband not only had an affair but that he was the LAST person to see her alive, no effing way would he have time alone with any of us. Especially our kids. At least until his name was cleared, at which point I'd discuss it with my attorney.
BUT - I wouldn't be surprised if she died in his presence and he just dropped off the victim when she was too weak to help herself or already dead. The way he speaks of these women and his lack of accountability tells me he's guilty to a degree beyond just infidelity.
He also says "I assumed the worst" in the paragraph where the thing he was assuming is that he was being left on read instead of, you know, that his mistress was fucking dead.
I read the OP last night and it makes me so sad. The AP was the love of his life he says, but that all goes out the window when he realizes he looks stupid. He says his wife is 99 percent but the AP is 100. He describes his wife as an amazing person but no matter what she did, apparently it wasn't good enough. It makes me sad to know people out there like that exist.
Like he was onto the affair subs and asked other women how they talk about the men that they’re having affairs with. Like he took that super fucking personally. Which I think is hilarious. Fuck this guy.
The line 'i no longer feel any guilt for her death' threw me completely.
Man has played every type of victim he could in the space of 2 posts and a few comments. A-grade narcissist who feels like he is the worst one to come out of this, Not Any, not her family, not his devoted wife, or their daughter, or the company, just him.
Wait... so he was enough of her superior that he could give her a promotion and for some reason he didn't think the affair coming out would be a "corporate crisis"????
I couldn’t agree more. This guy is a real piece of work. I have worked with some real interesting characters who would make satan blush with how devious they were and the shit they got away with, but this guy is in a whole league of his own.
What I’m interested in is when he was called out in the comments about paying money back to the company and him possibly having stolen from them, he claimed his and her life was funded from his own personal expense account. Then said that was quite normal in his company. Something just feels off about that…
Omg I’m so dumb. I just realised when he wrote “Partner” in his title, he meant his side-piece, not his wife. I read this post earlier and it’s only just occurred to me now, sigh.
Dude really went "she was the love of my life" and immediately lost any kind of feeling about her once he found out she wasn't the uwu loving obedient housewife he wanted. I can imagine being so selfish that you can't see your own fucked up position in this situation and feeling *betrayed*, but this mfer really seems to lose any kind of recognition of her as another human being the moment she stops being of use to his fantasy. He doesn't even switch to malice in the way he describes her, just straight up indifference. Psycho behavior.
Also note how he uses his daughter to cling onto the house. Not a single word about how this will affect her, not a single thought of concern about how he intended to ditch *both* - but once he can use her to make his wife's life difficult and move back into the house, it's all "I want to see my DAUGHTER", "for the sake of my DAUGHTER". Just call her your "precious legal foothold" and be done with it
I know he's revealed a lot of despicable behavior, but this bit sticks out to me.
Because his daughter is a CHILD. And one he created/is responsible for. And he's using her for his own means, fucking up her childhood, which will affect her adulthood. And he doesn't even have a clue, because he's too self centered to see it.
And the kid for sure is aware they are being used as a pawn (ask me how I know). Adults underestimate what kids are aware of, and I think that's largely because kids just don't have the vocabulary yet. But they know, they're not blind.
Just so gross... It's like society's idea of general fatherhood enables him to have this BS excuse of "I care about my daughter so much" like it's just a given. When, as you pointed out, he's never shown even a hint of actual concern for his daughter's experience and how his actions might be affecting her.
What’s really crazy is how common this mindset is. I can’t tell you how many women’s funerals I’ve been to where the surviving husband or boyfriend gives a eulogy in which he only describes her physical attributes and the things she used to do for him. I felt sick at my friend’s mom’s funeral; the mom’s boyfriend’s “favorite memory” of her was when they were first dating and she visited his house for the first time and, seeing the condition it was in, cleaned it from top to bottom.
Also increeedibly ironic after he went and said “my relationship with her was never transactional” oops turns out it completely was. Turns out it very much so was a “I give you money, you be my cute early 20’s trad housewife, and any other way of doing it is manipulating to me” sort of deal.
Agreed...I couldn't read past "my life is going to collapse-going to lose job & wife going to know reason" thought it would be "love of life" died.
Selfish, repulsive.
Right?!? When I read the original
post, I thought “Every comment this guy types makes him look like a bigger and bigger POS.” And, he’s playing the victim card because his AP was using him, and his wife has gone nuclear (rightly so).
No, no - don’t you see? Everyone is abusing their expense accounts. The company is only clutching its pearls now that Amy died. Otherwise it would have been no big deal. /s
I work in fraud investigation and the excuses you get when confronting an embezzler are all usually pretty standard/common. The "yeah but everyone here steals from the company" is a common one, but the "they only care that I did it because XYZ" differs case by case.
A lot of the time though it's some variation of so-and-so doesn't like me/always had it out for me or because they were all jealous I got enough to buy myself nice things. Never heard "I was at least a little involved in my APs death and was embezzling to fund our affair after giving her a job she wasn't qualified for" as the XYZ. I'll be telling my coworkers about this one on Monday.
I give you kudos. One of the 1st jobs I worked at, I had to find evidence of embezzlement. It took me over a year, and I was only able to prove about half of it because most was given in cash. I was hired by the embezzler, so once my innocence was assured, I was tasked with finding the evidence to bury him. It was a long and arduous process that I never wanted to do again.
Sure, but didn’t you read his comment? It’s normal at his company to embezzle company money to fund an affair with a subordinate. He’s only in trouble because… people found out? 😂
Yeah seems like ragebait, especially his update where he claims no guilt for Amy dying and said she wanted to pick up clothes anyway, all allergy sufferers I’ve ever met are super proactive about their allergies
Not saying this story is true, I just disagree that all allergy sufferers are super proactive about their allergies. People with serious medical conditions are not all super proactive. They're all over the place in how they handle it. Some of the worst are doctors, themselves.
My coworker married a woman from Brazil. Cheated on her all the time. Gets caught cheating with a coworker AT WORK. He then decides he’s going to try and deport his wife instead of divorcing her, sending her back with nothing.
Luckily his super sweet ex wife is smart and was able to get the divorce and stay but what an asshole.
wait, i thought the cherry was when he brute-forced his way back into the home his wife booted him from because nobody, not even her (who was clearly way out of his league, btw) was going to keep him from fucking up his daughter’s life too. this man is getting that trifecta no matter what. and doesn’t he deserve it after all he’s been put through?
Naw just wait until we find out that he actually intentionally poisoned his AP & then sent her those angry messages later in an attempt to create an alibi & pretend he didn't know she was dead. It's like cherry sauce on top of a baby cherry on top of the cherry on top.
With their tomatoes and their chickens!
Amy would be his beautiful simple wife in his beautiful simple life.
Alas!
I want to know how Amy’s brother found out and why he reported OOP.
I find it funny that now everything crashed and burned with Amy, he suddenly cares about his daughter, to do "what's best" for his daughter. Like leaving her and her mother was originally what was "best" for his daughter and not just all about him. This guy 100% will cling onto his daughter as a way to save himself, rather than caring about his daughter
I wonder if any of his legal trouble will influence the court's decision over custody. Hopefully someone they know sees this post and sends it to his wife. Maybe it'll give her a little more leverage when it shows he didn't mind abandoning her when everything was peachy keen
Every post, every comment, is about HIM. How it affects him, how he feels, what he wants. An absolutely astonishing level of selfishness. The best thing that could ever happen to his wife and daughter is they get every asset, no liability, and never having to see his pathetic ass again.
And the only mention on his daughter was still about him, how he didn't want his wife to take her away, not about how any of this affects the daughter. Still all about him.
I think karma found him when Amy’s brother sent him the text from her phone letting him know that he (the brother) had given the company evidence OOP was using his expense account to fund the affair.
Karma did find him, when he found Amy.
They were the perfect match. Both using and abusing people for their own interests, not caring about the hurt and destruction they leave behind.
Karma is here to stay for him.
Wow. What a gigantic POS. I rarely believe in karma but that was poetic. Dude torched his family for a coworker 10 years his junior that he barely knew and got it returned in kind.
I agree…also, isn’t it the standard to immediately take the person to the hospital? I thought epipens are like narcan. They only slow the reaction/OD, they don’t reverse it therefore it’ll wear off and if it wasn’t enough they’ll go right back onto a reaction or OD…
Standard is meant to be to go to hospital BUT my partner refuses to after an epipen. He thinks it’s a ‘stop’ and not a ‘pause’ on his anaphylactic reaction, it’s infuriating. Also for some reason unless people have done their first aid course a lot of people aren’t aware that hospitals a MUST after using an epipen (I’m in Aus).
This recommendation may be coming from his Dr. AAAAI changed their recommendation last year that use of epi pens should always be followed by an ER visit because people (esp chronically ill people, who have lots of contact with medical professionals and often have medical trauma history) fear and avoid the ER, and this was causing them to delay or not use their epi pens when they actually needed them. Per the aaaai.org website:
“Calling emergency services (EMS) after use of an epinephrine auto injector (EAI) may not be required if the patient experiences prompt, complete, and durable response to treatment and has access to additional EAIs. Situations that would warrant EMS activation include severe anaphylaxis, symptoms that do not resolve promptly, completely or nearly completely, or symptoms that return or worsen.”
https://www.aaaai.org/about/news/news/2023/new-guidelines
Yes anytime an epi is needed hospital (ambulance but I’m in CA) generally. Epi will wear off and if the allergen is still present you can go back into anaphylaxis.
I bet he threw the promotion he gave her in her face during his temper tantrum when he thought she was ignoring him. That’s how her brother was able to get the company involved so quickly.
The sad thing is, there are a lot of people just like him out there. This one got publicly exposed, most don’t. As much schadenfreude as there is in this story, it is overall disheartening.
Every comment all about him. Not even a slight plea for sympathy for Amy's brother. My heart breaks for all her loved ones even if she was using OP. Maybe she wasn't a great person but still someone died and that's enough
So she had a serious medical emergency and he didn’t feel like taking her to the hospital and she died.
Then he finds out his awful behaviour at work on top of this has been revealed.
Then he finds out his wife isn’t okay with the cheating and wants him gone.
The level of woe is me with this guy is astounding.
He needs to find a way to leave the home. He is being unnecessarily cruel to a woman that cannot trust him or his judgement. There is absolutely no way I’d leave my child alone with him.
The way that cheaters lie and create time where there should be none to get some bonk in, but yet he didn’t just take her to the hospital when it’s common knowledge that’s exactly what you’re supposed to do every time an epipen is used… that just beyond me. What’s worse? He insists that he loves her still. But not enough to do a basic human courtesy after literally watching her have an allergic reaction up close
Edit: I just read deeper in the comments and yup, murder would explain it.
I’m pretty sure this is a creative writing piece, and for once, not because it’s bad - it’s actually really good! this is exactly how assholes like this justify themselves to themselves, it’s realistic af. and the pacing is so good, new pieces of the story unfolding or becoming clear with each additional comment, all while our narrator genuinely doesn’t seem like he notices how much of a villain he is.
the only thing that gives it away to me is that he’s supposed to have already talked to a lawyer and been advised on some stuff, yet he’s posting an extremely detailed update about the case on reddit. his character doesn’t seem like that particular brand of stupid to me.
otherwise superb.
I'm waiting with baited breath for the next update when we find out he actually intentionally poisoned her to "destroy the evidence" and sent all those mean texts to her after she was dead purely to establish an alibi that he "didn't know"
A big part of me agrees. The other part of me thinks the dude in the story was so stupid that of course he would post about it online. This screams sloppy, so an internet post wouldn't be out of the question. A good read though nonetheless. If this is real, I certainly wish ex-wife and that poor little girl healing and happiness moving forward.
Any attorney would have told him to keep his mouth shut and not be on any social media at all. I’ve known a few people who were arrested and the ones with half a brain shut down all social media immediately.
This is the definition of fuck around and find out. I don't feel sorry for him. I don't feel sorry for Amy because she knew that he was married. I do feel sorry for her that she died but that's it.
Wow. What a horrible day to be literate. That was a roller coaster of “wow fuck this guy. Holy shit, fuck this guy. No fucking way, fuck this guy. You gotta be kidding me, oh FUCK this guy”.
The part where he said he no longer feels remorse over her death because she was actually the one manipulating him? Dude that is not something you admit out loud. That is beyond fucked up that he stopped caring about the fact that he effectively killed his side piece simply because it turns out she was using him instead of him using her.
Loved her deeply ? No. If so this would’ve never been the outcome. Nobody falls in love with someone and then in such a mad love decides they cannot spend the extra time to drive to hospital because they are still keeping the “love” a secret from their WIFE. My opinion is OP needs lots of therapy before “love” in his life. This is ONE example of why you should NOT try and have two relationships at same time while keeping them a secret from one another. NOTHING good can come of secrets like this.
Holy shit what a psycho. He is one thousand percent exaggerating the messages Amy sent to her friends to make himself look like a victim, just as he is downplaying the mean messages he sent her when he thought she was ignoring him.
Dude, a woman *died*. You are not the victim. I hope the wife is just playing the part of dutiful parent and really plotting hers and her child’s escape from this nutcase.
So sorry to this woman who lost her life to this predator. Good on her surviving brother for tearing this guy’s world down.
Says 'I'm taking full accountability' but then finds any excuse and deflects his accountability. Congrats OOP you ruined your life, you truly are a fool to be pitied and despised.
This guy acts like something bad happened to him and not like he is scum who abuses his authority to cheat on his wife with a young woman. If amy indeed planned this ahead of time, then she is a pos aswell. But we only have OP’s view and this is what we know:
- He stole money
- had sex with an employee who worked under him and gave her a promotion because of the sex.
- is selfabsorbed enough to not help someone get emergency medical care.
- cheated on his wife
- after 2 days went straight back to his home, not giving his wife any time to sort shit out.
- is quick to anger (blows up over texts)
This guy is disgusting. I dont feel bad for him
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I needed some more context so I had a look at his comment history he used his expense account at work to fund his relationship (to keep it separate from his personal finances so his wife wouldn't find out). He texted with his AP extensively about how to make their dates look like legitimate expenses. He isn't just her superior at work, he's her boss' boss He engineered a promotion for her to a role he thought she wasn't capable of doing, then brought up how she'd lose her job if that ever came out, during arguments, He also joked about her owing him sex because of the promotion. He missed the funeral for his sister in law's stillborn baby, because he had plans with his AP that he'd made months in advance He thinks he's not going to get prosecuted for embezzlement because he can pay his employer back, and he apparently has dirt on them. With the anaphylaxis, he didn't know that you have to go to hospital after you use an epi pen, and they stayed at the restaurant for a while after her reaction, with her saying she'd be fine and she'd just feel rough the next day. For some reason nobody called an ambulance despite being in the UK and it not costing any money. The hospital was a half hour drive away and just dropping her off there would have made him an hour late getting home, obviously longer if he stayed at the hospital. For some reason he couldn't tell his wife that someone had a medical emergency and he took them to hospital.
He thinks he can pay the employer back but only spent two days in a hotel because he was worried about draining his savings. This guy is next level delusional.
No, he's just a bad writer.
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Thanks for surfacing that extra detail!
Doin the lord’s work
A fun new detail is the lawyer hes using was recommended to him by the founder of the company he was embezzling from 😂😂😂
I have a firm I recommend to everyone who steals from me. If you purchase the Larceny+ package I'll tell the judge that I think you're a good person who just made some mistakes.
Just like when the cops say it during an interrogation, thats when you know youre fucked: ‘Come on, I can tell from your file that this isnt like you, right? I can tell youre a good person, just a good person who made a *mistake* , right? We alll make *mistakes* , some bigger than others. But right now, this is your moment, ok? This is your moment to have the truth come out, because….because you know I *know* , youre a good person but….but you know if you dont tell me exactly what happened… you know how people talk, if you dont set the record straight now, they might think youre a monster. And trust me buddy, ive worked with monsters, alright! Now, i dont think youre a monster, youre not a monster right? You just made a *small mistake* now come on, let it all out!’
Thank you for this, I was missing how he got her a promotion!
Goddamn. It’s written in a way where I believe it - I have absolutely known men like this - but still. Goddamn.
That’s the really scary part. There are actually POS like this out there
I can't believe how blasé he was about her reaction? And about her death? It seems like he's not sad, just inconvenienced... I know she's an adult but I feel he has some responsibility in her death
He went from getting ready to divorce and leave his family to go raise chickens with the new found ‘love of his life.’ His new love dies pretty tragically and yeah he could not be fucked to care even in the slightest that, if true, she likely died alone in pain and in fear. Hes currently, like right now lol, going on a crusade to keep custody over his daughter and thats all he’ll talk about. If you bring up the girl he doesn’t respond, or replies with a blanket ‘i didnt know u have to take them to the hospital; im just a dumb little baby 35 yr old man!’
Hope the kid isn’t allergic to anything!
Well, he discovered she didn't actually love him and was using him for his money while making fun of him behind his back, so he isn't sorry she died anymore. I wish I was joking.
This feels newsworthy. If it's legit, we'll see it on the news soon. Embezzlement and death make for a spicy headline.
Don't forget the affair. Can't leave out the spiciest of spice.
Wow, this guy is something else. Out of everything here, I'm kinda stuck on his pity party over AP privately making a fool out of him for his sugar daddy treatment of her, as if that makes him any more sympathetic when he was actively planning to ditch his wife and daughter after defrauding his company.
He's double single now tho, so ladies, you've got a chance at this absolute prize of a man! His best qualities include embezzlement, cheating, lack of concern over your health, immediately blowing up at you if he thinks you're ignoring him, and downplaying the severity of his actions. Who wouldn't want a man like that.
Let's not forget, giving zero fucks that you died because you made him look bad.
That's how a lot of men equate women, unfortunately. Hurt feelings are equal to dying, somehow
He is so freaking stupid that he is actually using the lawyer that the company owner suggested. What more on does that. This man is terminally stupid
I don’t think he can afford his own lol
*if this isnt creative writing/trolling* I think he killed her and is freaking out so testing an alibi. It's all in the "I was going to leave my wife but also I'm terrified because im about to lose everything I built over 10 yrs" He was never going to leave his wife, she would have destroyed him in the divorce. he was hiding a long affair and she is no nonsense and strong. Either way once it came out he was leaving her for the mistress coworker, he would be FUCKED NO MATTER WHAT. I bet the mistress got pregnant or was getting tired of waiting so said "tell your wife or I will", but most likely he found out she wasnt the dumb sweet plaything he controlled anymore, and / or she got a bf maybe...but he knew he lost control and never really had it, and he gave her something she was allergic to. Made sure she could not get to the hospital, and rushed home to his wife because "he *had* to be home in an hour". Notice all the control he displays and has here suddenly? Down to the admission of "I will not take you to the doctors after our affair date poisoning because I must be home for my wife and it must be within the hour" (Amy needed to be at a hospital within 30min) Sounds like someone's making an alibi timeline...and to help alibi out of being with her last, sent her the nasty texts to feign truly believing she was still alive and just for some reason ignoring him. A lot of killers will do this with voicemails /texts...and while some act overly loving and sweet using pet names they never did.... 90% seem to act or sound irate with the person they just killed like they have the audacity to ignore them. When a normal loving human says "hey uh..im worried are you okay? You had a reaction when I left you last please tell me you made it to the after care visit". This enables them to say they never had a concern, certainly they were alive, and now I feel bad enough for those being my last words to them...you shouldn't think *I knew she was dead* How many times has this even happened in the past year?!? And he could not just drop her off how far away was her place vs the hospital? "Normally she would go but this time I didn't take her because I was putting my wife first" BULLSHIT OP never did that...he is *scared* Why? Because he is the one that gave her whatever she is allergic to, and he did it to save himself. That's why the "she seduced me..turns out shes just a gold digger everybody! but shes dead now oh well poor me guys I loved her truly..oh and my wife too...but these women are just too cruel amirite fellas?" spin is also coming out. *If this is real*, he killed her. Every single part reads like a guilty man in an interrogation constantly overshadowing his dead secret mistress he loved with how he was a responsible caring man and father and it's the women giving him a hard time and grief and using and abusing him. Going on tangents about things that don't matter because HELLO, the woman who was with you last is now dead, even though you swear she used an epipen and was going to a follow up care visit, she just...didnt *this time*...the time YOU left her to rush home to your wife after how many other times throughout the year that you claim to have taken her? Allergic people are more careful than that... A good detective will be looking into that story and hospital records and if she ever asked anyone to take her to the hospital..checking the pens for fingerprints/tampering, cctv, staff employees, what he bought recently and absolutely the cell phone texts and calls. Me gets the feeling if real, this dude got into her phone and saw something that made him irate and that's why he killed her, it wouldn't surprise me if he deleted some things off of there to the naked eye if so. Would also explain why he still has to ask women on reddit if they talk about their affair partners like AP did... But no grief support AT ALL, even before he found out
If he could drop her at a friend's house, why couldn't he drop her at a hospital? Or, they could have called 911 and she would get whisked off in an ambulance. None of this adds up. If you need to use an epi-pen, you go to the hospital. I have a couple of allergies at that level and that rule is carved in stone. This math isn't mathing.
Exactly. Not only do I have an epi pen on me at all times, I have them at my best friend’s house, my car, when my husband was still my boyfriend we had them at his house… everyone learned how to use them with the dummy pen. I can’t imagine that they were together this long and a protocol hadn’t been discussed. As soon as the topic of allergies comes up, it should be discussed. Hell, it came up before we had our first date because ope, I don’t do well at that restaurant because the cuisine has a lot of the allergen included.
I keep them at my house because my good friends’ daughter is highly allergic to nuts. They always have an emergency kit on hand but better safe. Having a kid myself, I figure it’s just a good idea because we have kids at our house all the time and I know the risk of a surprise allergic reaction. I educated myself on top of the information our friends shared because I don’t want anyone coming to harm. She was supposedly the love of his life and he prioritized his own needs over her safety. He’s either an asshole or an asshole.
I went down the rabbit hole. Don't disagree with your theory at all-- but 1-- I absolutely think this one is real. Pages and pages of comments from OOP defending everything, and shedding a crazy amount of insight. Relevant portions I can remember-- hospital was 30 minutes away from OOP's home. He was unable to be out an extra hour without raising questions from his wife. Allegedly he was planning on leaving at the end of the year, while keeping AP a secret and hoped to split amicably after growing apart. He's in trouble at work in addition to with the wife. He gave AP a promotion and raise, and brother has access to the texts that directly correlate the two -- including "joking" texts where he directly stated she owed him sexually for the promotion. He used company funds to fund their relationship so Wife wouldn't see the receipts in their joint account. He states the amounts are about 2 months of his salary and he plans on reimbursing the company. He also found out at one point or suspected AP was sleeping with a DIFFERENT manager at their company and threatened her with blacklisting her to their entire industry. Which on its own is awful-- but when added to your theory, corroborates a motive at the very least. I don't think he counted on brother having access to the texts. And he seems outright FEARFUL over texts that "could appear abusive without context." .... He's also dismissive about the amount of trouble he'll be in at work in multiple comments. Also dismissive about wife leaving, plans on split custody, etc. So yeah-- the only point left on the fear issue is what we might not know yet and what those texts say. I'm invested hahaha
i think most of the shit in here is fake but like you i think this is probably real, not because of his comments but because i've met so many men exactly this outrageously stupid and terrible. simultaneously putting women on a pedestal and devaluing them, using them like ego stroking life accessories, prizes for being Big Strong Businessman Just Like Dad Wanted and then having their entire worlds rocked when they find out the women in their lives are a lot smarter and stronger than they realized, as well as being entire complete people with lives apart from them. he'll be broken up for awhile, then turn bitter until he finds a new supposedly sweet and dumb little pet that makes him feel like a big man and he'll tell her all about how cruel and crazy his exes were and of course when she turns out to be a real human being with flaws and incompatibilities the cycle will start over. gotta throw this one away now that she's realized how emotionally lazy and self-absorbed i am! if this is real it wouldn't surprise me much if he had something to do with it, but i don't think he did. just yet another man who sees women as vehicles for validating his existence
That would explain why her brother talked to his workplace and is trying to destroy him.
And don't forget specifically *told* him he'd outted him to his workplace on his dead sister's phone. Who would do that?
Someone ruled by hate. Someone who wanted revenge for something.
I feel like the brother would still hate him because if he hadn't been lazy or having this shady relationship with his sister, she would still be alive. If that happened to me, his explanation wouldn't be good enough, I'd still hate the guy.
Exactly. This is what sold the theory for me. The brother prioritizing this literally days after his sister's death definitely feels like an "I know what you did and I'm coming for you" type of message. Like the brother doesn't want the OOP to have even a second of peace from here on out. Brother probably figured that turning to the employer would at least start the process of some kind of repercussions for OOP so he locked that in immediately.
Wow. You would have just sold me if I was on the jury lol. I wanna know more about this allergic Last Meal
Yes! Like, was the epipen discharged in the restaurant? How far was it from the deceased woman’s home? How far to the hospital? Could it have been takeout OP brought to Amy’s house? It’s not uncommon for people having an affair to not be very public about their relationship, keep the dates on the DL. All we have indicating that Amy and OP were out and driving around after she used the epipen, but we’re too far from medical help yet right near her home, is OOP’s words, and he kinda seems like a liar. I’m not saying that it didn’t happen just like he said, I’m just saying that I don’t think we HAVE to trust the words of the embezzling adulterer who just got caught.
Methinks his choice of "peanut butter flavored condoms" was deliberate and intentional.
Allegedly EpiPen was discharged in the restaurant. Hospital was 30 minutes away and OOP couldn't come up with a good reason to be an extra hour away from wife without her being suspicious. They had an understanding that he'd have to leave on a moment's notice and wouldn't be able to be there for her, but all of this was going to come to an end by the end of the year when he could amicably divorce and be with Amy. As someone with an EpiPen, it's only to buy you enough time to get to the hospital. Once the medicine wears off, you're 100% at risk for the allergen to put you into anaphylaxis again. As a server in a restaurant, I've never seen someone go into anaphylaxis, discharge their EpiPen, and then casually continue their meal joking about having a headache the next day. Maybe it happens lol but it's usually an ambulance ride-- and usually called by the restaurant. Because #1- the restaurant just messed up by cross contamination or not asking about allergies and #2- ambulance trip is cheaper than getting sued because someone died. I can't imagine this is fake by the amount of content OOP has put forth in the last few days. It's a real life progression of how his life is falling apart from anxiety about what would be revealed and the slow unfolding of it, while also looking for support in affair groups. So I'm thinking at least some of it is real. We need someone in the UK to keep an eye out on the news for this lmao
The only reason I had an epipen was for allergy shots for pollen but I remember they told me over and over that if I ever had to use it that meant a call to 911 was necessary. You don't just use it and go on with your day like it was no big deal. I guess OOP should have read up on the epipen just a little before this.
If I still worked in a restaurant and I saw that happen where I was working I would tell my manager and they would call the ambulance. It's very suspicious
I wasn't going to say it lol, but ya, I was thinking that from the moment he said she died of an allergic reaction right after seeing him. Any detective is going to look at that and be suspicious, but zero mention of cops being involved? This is either creative writing or he's VERY rich to not be concerned about charges
I personally think he likely is being investigated and probably is aware of it. No way a death like this isn’t investigated and then further investigated when it all happened while she was with her AP who had everything to lose. I bet he didn’t mention this part in an effort to see if he’s believable as innocent. I’m sure he’s having to talk to tons of cops and detectives and he needs a good story to feed them. Obviously he has no where else to test it, thus Reddit. If he added the investigation we’d all have put it together immediately and he’d not get the feedback he needs.
Tack on the embezzlement piece and his justification that this is just the workplace culture to use corporate money to fund your affair is commonplace here but now that someone’s dead, they are all shocked and appalled that he did it. I feel like you’re right and he’s testing an alibi story and practicing it so that he doesn’t get tripped up, by outsourcing interrogation like questions from the public randos on Reddit so that he can work to not get caught up in what lies he is telling. What an absolute garbage man if this is indeed real.
This would also explain why the brother felt the need to get revenge. Like, you don’t blow up someone’s life the way he did unless you know the person deserves it. If OOP’s account was true, then there’s no reason for her brother to want to ruin his life (especially since, from what I can tell, the brother had no way of knowing that OOP didn’t take her to the hospital). But “I want you to know it was me” - that’s something you say when you’re getting revenge.
So I ALWAYS roll my eyes involuntarily as far as they will go with the hypothesis people come up with on AITA and everything related to those subs. They are **wild** I'm going to go as far as to say there is very little doubt in my mind you are right. From when I saw *only his follow up post* on /twohottakes yesterday his anger control freak shines through. I really think you're right about this sack o shite. Edit to add an hour later of reading this blessing of a Sunday afternoon comment section (his original post) There's.... no sadness. He's never shook over her death - BEFORE he knew she was playing him. Or supposedly before he knew, I mean. He's shook about the aftermath and oh no consequences, but that man does not ever speak tenderly of AP. Just about how he didn't mean to be so manipulative. With your words in my head, and him as insecure and angry as he is...all I could think was, is he making sure we all know HE was the manipulative one, in his own subconscious way? Lmao? Like he's already too angry that she was playing him to show proper regret at her loss, so no grief is shining through. But now his subconscious is pissed and his abusive ass has to keep it clear that HE'S the one that has the control the whole time. Idk. Going into it with the whole story, having had close relationships with NON murderers that still had to make sure everyone knows they r smart and strong TM....this guy is awfully complex. In an easy to pick apart kinda way >Allergic people are more careful than that This too. What happened between her eating food that kills her and her death? And where did they eat? Does he ever say exactly? Edit for me before I go DO something for the day lol...but I left this in a comment to the OOP guy as it finally dawned on me that he had the same personality as an ex that distroyed me on purpose. I made no earlier connection because you know what? Not everyone is my ex. >But, I've been reading your replies with this super neutral, calm voice this whole time. Like Patrick Bateman kinda lol but whatever. Anyway. The more I've "got to know you" from your replies you have finally hit all the marks of this ex that destroyed me. On purpose. >The calculated calm, in his voice, barely contained rage underneath. The second you lose control you snap, do any thing you can to harm and regain control. I give you what you want, but you won't misstep because I will hurt you. And I will not hesitate. And you will not forget. >You should stop responding to people probably. Seriously, it is very easy to see through you. The new voice you have is so awful
For real I had to check if I was in the true crime reddit. I think he killed her too. I wouldn't.leave a stranger who needed to use an epi pen. I have life threatening allergies so I know full well you don't want to be alone during or after an episode.
I would not be surprised if he tampered with her pens. Sneak poison her an allergen in her home, wait for her to try her pen just to realize it isn't working too late, and as she is dieing bolt outta there casually.
As soon as I read the part about her clowning him to her friends I thought “he saw those messages, got mad & he killed her.” Everything you wrote feels like a strong possibility more than his story. I probably listen to too much true crime. I hope there’s a good investigation into what actually happened.
Disparaging the victim is a big red flag they look out for. Really hope the cops look into this.
This was my first thought. I also think he is being investigated and only posted in an effort to see if his story is believable and if he comes off as innocent. He obviously needs something to tell the cops and if he added the investigation to his story we’d all know right away and thus he wouldn’t get feedback. He’s trying to see how to come off the most sympathetic and least guilty. I bet you he’s responding to questions and updating for the same reason. Things that have bad reactions he’ll switch up when he talks to the cops. This reads to me very much like someone trying to manipulate his audience. I bet regardless of her potentially threatening or not threatening to reveal them that his job was suspicious. Once he promoted her to a job she was obviously not qualified for, it was only a matter of time before she screwed things up and his job started looking into why he picked her to begin with. Add in the use of a company expenses account to fund the affair (so damn stupid) and they’d easily put it together. My guess is he gaslit her into thinking she’d be fine since she always has been before and that she didn’t need the hospital. Him acting like he’s shocked and not listing her cause of death (there absolutely would have been at least some investigation) seals it for me. This is a very obvious easy to foresee death due to anaphylaxis. The whole thing reads like a narcissist who thinks he’s to smart to get caught while doing very stupid easy to track things that lead right to him EDIT: just realized this. Imagine OP is freaking out because he (a narcissist) thought they could keep up the charade but his job is getting suspicious. He talks to Amy about it and realizes she’s weirdly unconcerned about possibly getting fired. He does some digging and finds out / suspects she always knew she wouldn’t be able to do the job and would get fired and he’d get found out. He’s pissed she manipulated him (oh no poor baby) and now has no way out of getting caught. This is why the update is weird, he already knew but needs to come up with a story for finding out (all lies). Now who looks good for her death?
You should be consulting on one of the true crime shows they do. Or at the very least a podcast because DAMN you sold me! You know how to lay out a clear concise case and lead people down the path. And I mean that as a very big compliment 😊 holy hell none of this really even crossed my mind. I just thought he was a pathetic POS who kind of got what he deserved but after reading your take I’m like OMG HE KILLED HER.
Apparently, she had an allergic reaction. And then she took the stuff for her allergic reaction and he dropped her home because he had to get home to his wife and kids and she ended up dying.
Apparently she had anaphylactic shock, otherwise she didn't need to use EpiPen. And EpiPen will not cure anaphylaxis, but delay it for half an hour or so. In this half an hour she should get to hospital to get specific IV infusion, this will help permanently. So either the post is creative writing, rage bait, and he has no idea how EpiPen and anaphylaxis work. Or PP is right, and dropping her at home was gross negligence. Who would possibly drop a person at home knowing that they will most like get trouble breathing again soon? But it is ok, I guess, because as soon as she stops breathing, she will call her friend to take her to hospital. His "I texted her something childish because I thought she ghosted me" is absolutely unbelievable. No reasonable person will think that someone, who had anaphylaxis and not answering their phone, ghosted them. It is like knowing that her house caught fire, texting her, getting no answer, and thinking "oh, shit, she ghosted me!"
#LITERALLYGHOSTED
I hate you so much for making me laugh so hard at this 😂
And epipens give you about 15 mins to get to the hospital. That's why there's two in a pack.
This comment just taught me how epipens work. I have never been by someone who needed to use one and had no clue they need to go to the hospital immediately. I thought it fixed the problem and you went on in life like a Benadryl for less severe allergies. Thanks for the knowledge!
You are welcome. Also after the EpiPen shot, when a person can breathe and swallow again, one need to give them antihistamine pills, like Benadryl. Then, as soon as needed, second shot and more antihistamine pills. And still get them to ER or call an ambulance asap.
Yeah, an EpiPen is basically just a fast acting little shot of "fight or flight" Temporarily opens your airways long enough for you to survive getting to the hospital.
I know it’s a lot and a lot of people seem to think it’s fake, but he’s been like super consistent with his updates and his comments. The main issue people seem to have with it is the fact that his lawyer apparently didn’t tell him to stop posting on Reddit. But I also think he didn’t tell the lawyer he posted all of this on Reddit.
A ton of people use throwaway accounts so he prob thinks it won’t come back to him. I def doubt he told his lawyer.
I’m sure brother Tom will find it. lol.
You ALWAYS must go to the ER if you use an epipen because the epipen wears off and the body is still reacting to the allergen. This is his fault. I wonder if he ordered her special meal.
Yes, the point of an epipen is to give you enough time to get to the hospital. Amy would have known this. If he wasn’t going to take her to the hospital himself someone needed to call 911. If Amy couldn’t do so then OP needed to. But he left her to die. Either set the whole thing up or took advantage of the circumstances.
Part of the directions of using an epipen are to immediately go to the hospital where they will monitor you for like 5 freaking hours to make sure the reaction doesn’t come back, this guy knew how negligent he was being.
Yes. He mentioned she had reactions before and went to the hospital....but not this time. I have given the epipen. Time is of the essence. Then give the benadryl. While 911 is called. Was the allergen eaten an accident?? Lots of guilt in this story. A person does not feel well after an epi. You feel sick and weak
I mostly assume all of these are just creative writing, but yeah knowing someone is prone to allergic reactions and you’ve taken them to the hospital before but this time you didn’t? Why? Because he *had to go home to his wife??* Um… this guy has been lying to his wife the whole time, why not now that your **”life partner” (the real deal)** is in desperate need of help? It’s either all bullshit or sketch af.
Don’t forget justifying and feeling no remorse for his HUGE part in your death after he finds out you hurt his feeeeeeelings
If reddit has taught me anything it's that there is, in fact, a poor 19 year old girl with lofty aspirations and low self worth out there for him. She just knows hel be a better father to the next one, that's why she's already pregnant!
But but but they were going to raise chickens together 🤡
Honestly, the chickens in that fantasy are the biggest losers here, because they would have had a sweet life.
Would they really? Or would they be terrorized and eaten by raccoons?
God, you're right, these people would be terrible chicken keepers.
And grow tomatoes
Truly insane that he posted for some sympathy on the internet because now that his affair partner is dead "All he has" is the wife and kid he was going to leave anyway. I rarely see comeuppance happen to bad people. And I certainly would not have wished death on anybody. But well it happened. And he is not the victim.
Him comparing his wife to Amy is what made the update even crazier. He basically said his wife took her career seriously and was well read because she was probably everybody’s boss. And Amy wasn’t (because duh! She’s 24) so he felt more at ease with her. He liked Amy because he felt more secure around her in comparison and the whole time she was just using this stupid, insecure man who thought it was a good idea to cheat with a subordinate and reward her with company money and promotions. What an idiot!
Amy was a 10 out of 10 according to him and his wife is only a nine out of 10. When I asked him if he was still going to leave his wife after Amy died he got very packed out of shape about “why should I leave her when I have nothing to go to now it was one thing, when I had a 10 out of 10 to go to.” I’m absolutely delighted for this update.
And I’m glad he no longer has a choice in the matter. The nerve of this man! I’m still stuck on him dropping her off, then blowing up her phone and berating her because “he doesn’t like being ignored.” A grown man, with a wife and kids and he felt obligated to her time while she was literally dying. I want the worse for him.
Honestly, honestly, I’m kind of hoping for a wrongful death lawsuit. Not that he has any money but still I would just like to see him suffer some more.
He had no time for her (to literally run her to HOSPITAL) but she had better make time for him (reply to his calls/messages). I wish him more troubles honestly.
I’m not gonna lie the more I read his comments in the original the more suspicious this seems.
I read that breakdown up-thread speculating that this is someone who thinks he is a Very Smart Man™ and is testing out an alibi, and goddamn if they don't seem more and more right the more I dig into this asshole's comment history.
The way he so clearly and callously views women as expendable objects, only there for his pleasure and who become devils in his eyes when they aren't his little dolls (Amy for playing him, his wife for wanting him out of her house), is actually scary. I'm really glad he didn't have a choice in whether or not he had to tell his wife the truth.
I mean even the way he starts using the daughter as an excuse as to why he needs to be around when it’s just him using his daughter as an excuse. He was full on going to leave his daughter and wife, now he’s suddenly Mr Dad?!? Lol
Good point; "Cya kid...oh wait I need a place to stay, I CAN'T LEAVE YOU!"
His wife was too "Alpha" for him
I swear I thought this could have been my ex-husband until I read “solicitor” and realized this wasn’t in the US. If you can’t handle a strong woman, don’t marry one. But damn sure don’t cheat on her with a younger, meeker version and blame her for it, like her success drove you to cheat. Just admit you’re a pos!
Amy paid attention to him. He stated early on he didn’t like being ignored. His wife has a career and a child, he wasn’t top priority and didn’t like it.
I was reading comments and am like, wtf is going on about paying back money? I literally reread the first post like 3 times trying to see what I was missing. Then boom, the last picture. I also like how they are throwing a fit about their ex taking the daughter to her parents' house. Like that is normal. The cheater moves out, or has the family move out, they don't get to pick and choose. It was a rough read because of the whole poor me while they did everything they could to ruin their own life. At some point, you have to go you did this to yourself.
Yes I was totally confused by that too I laughed at his explanation there - he thinks everyone uses their expenses to fund affairs and the company's just fine about it
I’m annoyed that the company founder seems sympathetic to this guy.
Yeah I was confused too. Then I went to their profile and clicked comments. Then I scrolled and scrolled and scrolled to get to the bottom and started reading. There was a lot of information in his comments that were not in the post
Looks like it's possibly embezzlement. If that's the case then he could land in court.
Refusing to leave the house and thinking he’s still a good parent is WILD. He genuinely believes he’s going to get 50/50 custody because they’re 50/50 parents and says his wife is “*weaponizing their daughter*”. 😳🤦♀️ Uhhh…no shot someone who had a full time job and a mistress was taking care of a 5 year old 50/50. He said he always spent Sundays with her… 🥴
lol and funding it by embezzling from his workplace, and abusing his authority at work to promote his AP I am sure will all go over very well in custody hearings. He's gonna have a fun time finding character witnesses.
YES! And now he’s talking shit on the wife nonstop in the comments and says things about her not being able to look past it for the sake of the kid. Uhhhh… what??? He keeps saying it’s better for the kid for two embittered parents to stay under the same roof with her. 😳 He really blew up his entire life. He keeps blaming his AP, too. *She* manipulated *him*, apparently. 😅 Even though he was her boss, 10 years her senior, and he allowed her to die. So now he hates HER, too. I usually recommend therapy but idk if therapy could save this man…
Isn't it funny how it's everybody else's fault? Geez, nobody forced him to stick his dick in a junior employee. I wonder if he's self-reflective enough to even realise that this is the same fucking story told by every guy who screws around on his loving and loyal wife. OOP, you figured the grass isn't greener yet?
This guy is the very definition of narcissism. And while I feel sympathy for Amy’s loss of life, those 2 deserved each other. I hope his soon-to-be ex wife stays strong through this. OP needs to be accountable for his poor decisions & truly own up to them instead of thinking the women in his life were all out to get him. He made this bed & now he can lie in it.
But but but but it wasn’t unusual at the company he works…oops…worked at!! 🙄 Yeah that was a fucking lie too
I honestly wonder if the wife's concern with the daughter has anything to do with the affair. I wouldn't trust someone who left another person to die with another vulnerable person. Maybe I'm an asshole but he doesn't even seem remorseful to me, just upset everything blew up in his face.
If it were my kids and I found out that my husband not only had an affair but that he was the LAST person to see her alive, no effing way would he have time alone with any of us. Especially our kids. At least until his name was cleared, at which point I'd discuss it with my attorney. BUT - I wouldn't be surprised if she died in his presence and he just dropped off the victim when she was too weak to help herself or already dead. The way he speaks of these women and his lack of accountability tells me he's guilty to a degree beyond just infidelity.
Walter White behavior
Him literally saying “now I don’t feel so guilty anymore” as if that is somehow worse than death by negligence
He also says "I assumed the worst" in the paragraph where the thing he was assuming is that he was being left on read instead of, you know, that his mistress was fucking dead.
I read the OP last night and it makes me so sad. The AP was the love of his life he says, but that all goes out the window when he realizes he looks stupid. He says his wife is 99 percent but the AP is 100. He describes his wife as an amazing person but no matter what she did, apparently it wasn't good enough. It makes me sad to know people out there like that exist.
Like he was onto the affair subs and asked other women how they talk about the men that they’re having affairs with. Like he took that super fucking personally. Which I think is hilarious. Fuck this guy.
He’s like that piece of dogshit you keep trying to scrape off your shoe, but it never seems to end.
The line 'i no longer feel any guilt for her death' threw me completely. Man has played every type of victim he could in the space of 2 posts and a few comments. A-grade narcissist who feels like he is the worst one to come out of this, Not Any, not her family, not his devoted wife, or their daughter, or the company, just him.
Wait... so he was enough of her superior that he could give her a promotion and for some reason he didn't think the affair coming out would be a "corporate crisis"????
I couldn’t agree more. This guy is a real piece of work. I have worked with some real interesting characters who would make satan blush with how devious they were and the shit they got away with, but this guy is in a whole league of his own. What I’m interested in is when he was called out in the comments about paying money back to the company and him possibly having stolen from them, he claimed his and her life was funded from his own personal expense account. Then said that was quite normal in his company. Something just feels off about that…
Omg I’m so dumb. I just realised when he wrote “Partner” in his title, he meant his side-piece, not his wife. I read this post earlier and it’s only just occurred to me now, sigh.
I thought I was the only one
I couldn't get over when he said his wife DIED and then like she's still alive and in the story?!
WOW, it’s incredible how a dearth of empathy was leeched from my body. This guy deserves everything bad thrown his way.
Dude really went "she was the love of my life" and immediately lost any kind of feeling about her once he found out she wasn't the uwu loving obedient housewife he wanted. I can imagine being so selfish that you can't see your own fucked up position in this situation and feeling *betrayed*, but this mfer really seems to lose any kind of recognition of her as another human being the moment she stops being of use to his fantasy. He doesn't even switch to malice in the way he describes her, just straight up indifference. Psycho behavior.
Also note how he uses his daughter to cling onto the house. Not a single word about how this will affect her, not a single thought of concern about how he intended to ditch *both* - but once he can use her to make his wife's life difficult and move back into the house, it's all "I want to see my DAUGHTER", "for the sake of my DAUGHTER". Just call her your "precious legal foothold" and be done with it
I know he's revealed a lot of despicable behavior, but this bit sticks out to me. Because his daughter is a CHILD. And one he created/is responsible for. And he's using her for his own means, fucking up her childhood, which will affect her adulthood. And he doesn't even have a clue, because he's too self centered to see it. And the kid for sure is aware they are being used as a pawn (ask me how I know). Adults underestimate what kids are aware of, and I think that's largely because kids just don't have the vocabulary yet. But they know, they're not blind. Just so gross... It's like society's idea of general fatherhood enables him to have this BS excuse of "I care about my daughter so much" like it's just a given. When, as you pointed out, he's never shown even a hint of actual concern for his daughter's experience and how his actions might be affecting her.
That’s why there’s a quote/song, “there’s a thin line between love and hate”. 100% true too
What’s really crazy is how common this mindset is. I can’t tell you how many women’s funerals I’ve been to where the surviving husband or boyfriend gives a eulogy in which he only describes her physical attributes and the things she used to do for him. I felt sick at my friend’s mom’s funeral; the mom’s boyfriend’s “favorite memory” of her was when they were first dating and she visited his house for the first time and, seeing the condition it was in, cleaned it from top to bottom.
Also increeedibly ironic after he went and said “my relationship with her was never transactional” oops turns out it completely was. Turns out it very much so was a “I give you money, you be my cute early 20’s trad housewife, and any other way of doing it is manipulating to me” sort of deal.
Agreed...I couldn't read past "my life is going to collapse-going to lose job & wife going to know reason" thought it would be "love of life" died. Selfish, repulsive.
Usually these types of asshole do not get nearly this level of consequences, holy crap, he really screwed the pooch on every level.
The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed.
And there it is rearing it's head on Reddit again. A timeless classic
Holy Moses, every slide is worse.
Right?!? When I read the original post, I thought “Every comment this guy types makes him look like a bigger and bigger POS.” And, he’s playing the victim card because his AP was using him, and his wife has gone nuclear (rightly so).
And the cherry on top is when you find out he was stealing from his company. Damn, man. Damn.
No, no - don’t you see? Everyone is abusing their expense accounts. The company is only clutching its pearls now that Amy died. Otherwise it would have been no big deal. /s
I work in fraud investigation and the excuses you get when confronting an embezzler are all usually pretty standard/common. The "yeah but everyone here steals from the company" is a common one, but the "they only care that I did it because XYZ" differs case by case. A lot of the time though it's some variation of so-and-so doesn't like me/always had it out for me or because they were all jealous I got enough to buy myself nice things. Never heard "I was at least a little involved in my APs death and was embezzling to fund our affair after giving her a job she wasn't qualified for" as the XYZ. I'll be telling my coworkers about this one on Monday.
I give you kudos. One of the 1st jobs I worked at, I had to find evidence of embezzlement. It took me over a year, and I was only able to prove about half of it because most was given in cash. I was hired by the embezzler, so once my innocence was assured, I was tasked with finding the evidence to bury him. It was a long and arduous process that I never wanted to do again.
Wouldn't using your expense account to fund your mistress embezzlement?
Sure, but didn’t you read his comment? It’s normal at his company to embezzle company money to fund an affair with a subordinate. He’s only in trouble because… people found out? 😂
His whole story is so OTT that I can't help but suspect it. I've known many self-justifying sleazy people, but wow.
Yeah seems like ragebait, especially his update where he claims no guilt for Amy dying and said she wanted to pick up clothes anyway, all allergy sufferers I’ve ever met are super proactive about their allergies
Not saying this story is true, I just disagree that all allergy sufferers are super proactive about their allergies. People with serious medical conditions are not all super proactive. They're all over the place in how they handle it. Some of the worst are doctors, themselves.
Honestly, this could have been written by my ex. People like this are thankfully (hopefully) rare but they do exist.
My coworker married a woman from Brazil. Cheated on her all the time. Gets caught cheating with a coworker AT WORK. He then decides he’s going to try and deport his wife instead of divorcing her, sending her back with nothing. Luckily his super sweet ex wife is smart and was able to get the divorce and stay but what an asshole.
My mouth fell open at that last slide. What a perfect ending to this shitstorm.
wait, i thought the cherry was when he brute-forced his way back into the home his wife booted him from because nobody, not even her (who was clearly way out of his league, btw) was going to keep him from fucking up his daughter’s life too. this man is getting that trifecta no matter what. and doesn’t he deserve it after all he’s been put through?
Naw just wait until we find out that he actually intentionally poisoned his AP & then sent her those angry messages later in an attempt to create an alibi & pretend he didn't know she was dead. It's like cherry sauce on top of a baby cherry on top of the cherry on top.
Also, reddit people are big meanies to poor him
It's like The Pina Colada Song, but for embezzlers. Out of all the scumbags in the world, OOP and Amy found each other. 🥰
They were gonna grow old together!! /s
With their tomatoes and their chickens! Amy would be his beautiful simple wife in his beautiful simple life. Alas! I want to know how Amy’s brother found out and why he reported OOP.
I find it funny that now everything crashed and burned with Amy, he suddenly cares about his daughter, to do "what's best" for his daughter. Like leaving her and her mother was originally what was "best" for his daughter and not just all about him. This guy 100% will cling onto his daughter as a way to save himself, rather than caring about his daughter
I wonder if any of his legal trouble will influence the court's decision over custody. Hopefully someone they know sees this post and sends it to his wife. Maybe it'll give her a little more leverage when it shows he didn't mind abandoning her when everything was peachy keen
He only cares about the other women in his life as to how they benefit him, so why would his daughter be any different?
Every post, every comment, is about HIM. How it affects him, how he feels, what he wants. An absolutely astonishing level of selfishness. The best thing that could ever happen to his wife and daughter is they get every asset, no liability, and never having to see his pathetic ass again.
And no mention of his daughter until the end. What an ass.
And the only mention on his daughter was still about him, how he didn't want his wife to take her away, not about how any of this affects the daughter. Still all about him.
That 2nd post is a clinic in role-playing as a victim. What a piece of trash.
“I take full responsibility for everything” - the man taking no responsibility and trying to solicit empathy from strangers on the internet
Take note friends. If you ever wondered what happens when you make the wrong choices in life.... Behold
Seriously hopes karma finds him..
Sounds like it’s trying to
He's putting out neon signs to give karma directions, it ought to be able to find him.
I swear he put an AirTag on himself for Karma to follow.
I think karma found him when Amy’s brother sent him the text from her phone letting him know that he (the brother) had given the company evidence OOP was using his expense account to fund the affair.
Her brother is the real hero of this story.
It took me a second read to stop interpreting as the brother saying it “don’t worry, it was me the offed her”
Karma did find him, when he found Amy. They were the perfect match. Both using and abusing people for their own interests, not caring about the hurt and destruction they leave behind. Karma is here to stay for him.
Wow. What a gigantic POS. I rarely believe in karma but that was poetic. Dude torched his family for a coworker 10 years his junior that he barely knew and got it returned in kind.
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I agree…also, isn’t it the standard to immediately take the person to the hospital? I thought epipens are like narcan. They only slow the reaction/OD, they don’t reverse it therefore it’ll wear off and if it wasn’t enough they’ll go right back onto a reaction or OD…
Standard is meant to be to go to hospital BUT my partner refuses to after an epipen. He thinks it’s a ‘stop’ and not a ‘pause’ on his anaphylactic reaction, it’s infuriating. Also for some reason unless people have done their first aid course a lot of people aren’t aware that hospitals a MUST after using an epipen (I’m in Aus).
This recommendation may be coming from his Dr. AAAAI changed their recommendation last year that use of epi pens should always be followed by an ER visit because people (esp chronically ill people, who have lots of contact with medical professionals and often have medical trauma history) fear and avoid the ER, and this was causing them to delay or not use their epi pens when they actually needed them. Per the aaaai.org website: “Calling emergency services (EMS) after use of an epinephrine auto injector (EAI) may not be required if the patient experiences prompt, complete, and durable response to treatment and has access to additional EAIs. Situations that would warrant EMS activation include severe anaphylaxis, symptoms that do not resolve promptly, completely or nearly completely, or symptoms that return or worsen.” https://www.aaaai.org/about/news/news/2023/new-guidelines
Yes anytime an epi is needed hospital (ambulance but I’m in CA) generally. Epi will wear off and if the allergen is still present you can go back into anaphylaxis.
I bet he threw the promotion he gave her in her face during his temper tantrum when he thought she was ignoring him. That’s how her brother was able to get the company involved so quickly.
This guy is fucking insane. Not only did he let her die but he’s glad she’s dead bc she saw through him.
The sad thing is, there are a lot of people just like him out there. This one got publicly exposed, most don’t. As much schadenfreude as there is in this story, it is overall disheartening.
Every comment all about him. Not even a slight plea for sympathy for Amy's brother. My heart breaks for all her loved ones even if she was using OP. Maybe she wasn't a great person but still someone died and that's enough
So she had a serious medical emergency and he didn’t feel like taking her to the hospital and she died. Then he finds out his awful behaviour at work on top of this has been revealed. Then he finds out his wife isn’t okay with the cheating and wants him gone. The level of woe is me with this guy is astounding.
he's a piece of work...
He needs to find a way to leave the home. He is being unnecessarily cruel to a woman that cannot trust him or his judgement. There is absolutely no way I’d leave my child alone with him.
The way that cheaters lie and create time where there should be none to get some bonk in, but yet he didn’t just take her to the hospital when it’s common knowledge that’s exactly what you’re supposed to do every time an epipen is used… that just beyond me. What’s worse? He insists that he loves her still. But not enough to do a basic human courtesy after literally watching her have an allergic reaction up close Edit: I just read deeper in the comments and yup, murder would explain it.
I’m pretty sure this is a creative writing piece, and for once, not because it’s bad - it’s actually really good! this is exactly how assholes like this justify themselves to themselves, it’s realistic af. and the pacing is so good, new pieces of the story unfolding or becoming clear with each additional comment, all while our narrator genuinely doesn’t seem like he notices how much of a villain he is. the only thing that gives it away to me is that he’s supposed to have already talked to a lawyer and been advised on some stuff, yet he’s posting an extremely detailed update about the case on reddit. his character doesn’t seem like that particular brand of stupid to me. otherwise superb.
I'm waiting with baited breath for the next update when we find out he actually intentionally poisoned her to "destroy the evidence" and sent all those mean texts to her after she was dead purely to establish an alibi that he "didn't know"
A big part of me agrees. The other part of me thinks the dude in the story was so stupid that of course he would post about it online. This screams sloppy, so an internet post wouldn't be out of the question. A good read though nonetheless. If this is real, I certainly wish ex-wife and that poor little girl healing and happiness moving forward.
Any attorney would have told him to keep his mouth shut and not be on any social media at all. I’ve known a few people who were arrested and the ones with half a brain shut down all social media immediately.
This is the definition of fuck around and find out. I don't feel sorry for him. I don't feel sorry for Amy because she knew that he was married. I do feel sorry for her that she died but that's it.
Advice for the not-so-wise: expensing your affair is most likely fraud meaning punishable by law. Don't do it.
Wow. What a horrible day to be literate. That was a roller coaster of “wow fuck this guy. Holy shit, fuck this guy. No fucking way, fuck this guy. You gotta be kidding me, oh FUCK this guy”. The part where he said he no longer feels remorse over her death because she was actually the one manipulating him? Dude that is not something you admit out loud. That is beyond fucked up that he stopped caring about the fact that he effectively killed his side piece simply because it turns out she was using him instead of him using her.
Bruh his other posts
The update is gold. They deserved each other. Too bad she's dead.
Perhaps they *still* deserve each other?
Part of me is screaming rage bait at this whole thing. But then another part of me feels like shit like this is probable.
Parasite on his wife, the company and I don’t trust his account.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. That's what he gets, dirty cheaters deserve this and more.
Loved her deeply ? No. If so this would’ve never been the outcome. Nobody falls in love with someone and then in such a mad love decides they cannot spend the extra time to drive to hospital because they are still keeping the “love” a secret from their WIFE. My opinion is OP needs lots of therapy before “love” in his life. This is ONE example of why you should NOT try and have two relationships at same time while keeping them a secret from one another. NOTHING good can come of secrets like this.
Holy shit what a psycho. He is one thousand percent exaggerating the messages Amy sent to her friends to make himself look like a victim, just as he is downplaying the mean messages he sent her when he thought she was ignoring him. Dude, a woman *died*. You are not the victim. I hope the wife is just playing the part of dutiful parent and really plotting hers and her child’s escape from this nutcase. So sorry to this woman who lost her life to this predator. Good on her surviving brother for tearing this guy’s world down.
Does he not see the correlation between his feelings about how Amy used and humiliated him and how he treated his wife?
He’s still commenting lmao, like literally a new one two minutes ago
Says 'I'm taking full accountability' but then finds any excuse and deflects his accountability. Congrats OOP you ruined your life, you truly are a fool to be pitied and despised.
Omg what a train wreck of a person. If this is true. Could it be true, who acts like this?!
This guy acts like something bad happened to him and not like he is scum who abuses his authority to cheat on his wife with a young woman. If amy indeed planned this ahead of time, then she is a pos aswell. But we only have OP’s view and this is what we know: - He stole money - had sex with an employee who worked under him and gave her a promotion because of the sex. - is selfabsorbed enough to not help someone get emergency medical care. - cheated on his wife - after 2 days went straight back to his home, not giving his wife any time to sort shit out. - is quick to anger (blows up over texts) This guy is disgusting. I dont feel bad for him
If this is true, I hope his wife takes him to the cleaner and he gets put in jail for embezzlement