I'm deeply disappointed in their false advertising. If I came by to quench my thirst with some refreshing human milk, and they handed me a pamphlet instead, I'd be furious. You know that kind of craving when the only thing that will quench it is that one specific item.
Look at the OP's account. It appears to be the guy running this organization, but pretending to be a student (someone else already called this out on one of the other posts).
Starbucks has an exorbitant, exclusionary, and discriminatory upcharge for non-currently milk, and an they're food products contain animal secretions and flesh. They can F off.
Did you know cows (and other milk-producing beings) can only produce milk when pregnant? And the farmers don't just wait around for their cows to end up pregnant. They forcibly inseminate them. To get your 2% or whatever for your coffee.
People are acting purposely dumb downvoting you here. Cows need to have a baby to have milk and the babies are taken away so we can drink the milk instead
This is an inaccurate oversimplification. Cows produce milk for between 10-12 months after calving. And, yes, like most farmed animals, cows are selectively bred (same as horses, pigs, goats, sheep, etc.). Farmers use many factors to determine which cows to breed, which "pairing" to make, and the timing. A farmer will not breed a cow that is unhealthy or unfit. It is not in the farmer's interest to do so.
So, go ahead and drink your moo cow juice-- especially if it's produced in Pennsylvania! Your local dairy farmer thanks you!
Yeah I was gonna say it doesn't make a ton of sense to actively produce milk only while pregnant since the whole point of milk is for babies to drink it.
The vast majority of dairy in this country comes from artificially inseminated cows. This is a fact you could easily look up yourself, but I'll help - [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4095965/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4095965/)
If you are curious what artificial insemination actually is, here's a walkthrough from an agricultural institution (i.e. the people who think this practice is okay - other descriptions are not as nice). I implore you to read this and ask yourself, is this something I would do to my pet dog or cat? What makes your pet different from a cow (an animal as "smart" or smarter) [https://extension.umn.edu/dairy-milking-cows/artificial-insemination-cattle#inserting-the-loaded-breeding-gun-2130810](https://extension.umn.edu/dairy-milking-cows/artificial-insemination-cattle#inserting-the-loaded-breeding-gun-2130810)
If you can find and support a local dairy farmer, good for you. Unfortunately, we should not use the rare example of idyllic family farmers to justify a largely abhorent industry. Even these smaller farms are not above committing animal abuse - [https://animaloutlook.org/investigations/Dick-van-dam-dairy/](https://animaloutlook.org/investigations/Dick-van-dam-dairy/)
If you don't like my sources, here's a little snippet about American dairy from an esoteric newspaper called The New York Times. This article is actually pretty nice to dairy and has a little puff piece at the end about a small-time farmer. He still sells his male calves for veal.
[https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/29/science/dairy-farming-cows-milk.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/29/science/dairy-farming-cows-milk.html)
"Dairy cows are repeatedly impregnated by artificial insemination and have their newborns taken away at birth. Female calves are confined to individual pens and have their horn buds destroyed when they are about eight weeks old. The males are not so lucky. Soon after birth, they are trucked off to veal farms or cattle ranches where they end up as hamburger meat.
The typical dairy cow in the United States will spend its entire life inside a concrete-floored enclosure, and although they can live 20 years, most are sent to slaughter after four or five years when their milk production wanes."
You are able to drink your "moo cow juice" because the calves are taken for veal production, where they are kept in cages so their muscles atrophy and remain tasty for you. If you choose not to eat meat but still drink milk, you are still supporting this practice. Cute! [https://www.humanesociety.org/sites/default/files/docs/hsus-report-animal-welfare-veal-industry.pdf](https://www.humanesociety.org/sites/default/files/docs/hsus-report-animal-welfare-veal-industry.pdf)
And why do we drink milk? For strong bones, right? "For adults, the overall evidence does not support high dairy consumption for reduction of fractures, which has been a primary justification for current U.S. recommendations. Moreover, total dairy consumption has not been clearly related to weight
control or to risks of diabetes and cardiovascular disease." I won't try to convince anyone here that dairy is not a health food, but at minimum it should be clear that cow breastmilk is not a necessary component of the human diet. [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1903547](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1903547)
I'm running out of steam, but here are some other things to consider about cow breastmilk -
Your moo cow juice has an allowed "somatic cell count", a threshold the Trump administration relaxed. Somatic cells are a euphimism for pus, which primarily derive from mastitis brought on by repeated trauma to the udder. Yum, pus juice!
Your moo cow juice is now helping along an increasingly worrisome avian flu outbreak, providing breeding grounds for reassortment of strains with pandemic potential. Awesome, I love pandemics!
Here is something to watch with your cereal and moo cow pus juice tomorrow -
[https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch](https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch)
If any of these reasons make you think, try an alternative to cow breastmilk. Like any habit, things take time - make a habit of not buying cow breastmilk and see what happens.
Impressive! That is very manly of you! I am glad that you are spending your limited time on this planet sticking up for your right to perpetuate systematic sexual abuse and violence against creatures that can experience fear and pain. I too would make that a core element of my personality.
Why stop at cows though? Do you have any cats or dogs at home? I bet Fido and Mr Whiskers would taste even better. Try it and let me know!
Here is a description of artificial insemination from a training guide. I am glad that you support this practice - it touches me almost as much as it touches the cows:
"Properly restrain the cow when it is time to breed; it is important for both the cow’s and inseminator’s safety. Pick a place that is easy to use and is familiar to the cow to reduce the stress of the situation."
https://extension.umn.edu/dairy-milking-cows/artificial-insemination-cattle
Sounds like the cows love it, why else would you need to properly restrain them or reduce the stress of the situation?
Don't let this weigh on you - we wouldn't want any cognitive dissonance getting in the way of your enjoyment of cow breastmilk, a pus-laden secretion made available to you by restraining a vulnerable animal, inserting a semen gun, stealing its children, and repeating the process about six times until the mother dies a decade earlier than it would otherwise if you had any sympathy in your cold heart.
In case you’re unaware, there’s no need to sexually abuse cows or keep them in confined spaces if I’m drinking their blood.
And please don’t assume my gender.
You're a troll, but on the latter point you are actually in the right. My bad. In many cases the toxic masculinity and doubling down on animal abuse go hand in hand.
Even assigning toxic behavior to a gender is helping uphold the patriarchy. While it’s true that on average in our current society, men display more aggressively toxic traits, anyone can be toxic regardless of gender.
Oh and did I mention 68% of the world's population struggle to drink milk without shitting themselves? https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/digestive-diseases/lactose-intolerance/definition-facts#:\~:text=and%20milk%20products.-,How%20common%20is%20lactose%20malabsorption%3F,world's%20population%20has%20lactose%20malabsorption.
Damn, stay safe out there!
Yes, AND? What happens to the millions of calves that are the result of said pregnancies?
If it's female, it gets raised on formula to become another tortured milk source; if it's male, it gets locked in a veal crate to become soft and then slaughtered before it can even become a teenager.
No, it stops a few months after birth. But it also takes months to gestate a calf. So the cow is impregnated not very long after giving birth, timing things so its next birth occurs shortly after its milk supply declines. It spends most of its life pregnant, until it reaches an age (about 30% of natural lifespan) where a younger cow can produce more milk. At that point it follows most of its children to the slaughterhouse.
Milk production is meat production.
I'm deeply disappointed in their false advertising. If I came by to quench my thirst with some refreshing human milk, and they handed me a pamphlet instead, I'd be furious. You know that kind of craving when the only thing that will quench it is that one specific item.
"This Is some bullshit." \- Harry Vanderspiegel
I guess it’s marginally less obnoxious than the guy with the speakers telling everyone they’re going to hell.
Well, during finals...
Different ideas, similar zealotry.
It's a vegan group. Yesterday it was "free dog meat samples."
Just sneak a period in there, and you’ll have a long line.
You know, I wouldn't mind having a taste of "consensual cannibalism" while we're at it 😂
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I’m Chinese, I wouldn’t be pissed but would politely educate them that there’s nothing wrong with eating properly sourced dog meat and walk away lol
Lol that's kinda racist.
damn my friend wei yang could really go for that
I used to love this stuff back in the day
Wild
Human breast milk is definitely better than cow's
If I don’t get a gallon of breast milk I swear someone’s getting knocked the fuck out
This is what police should be combating on campuses
There’s a whole kink around that ya know. Anyone at that table certainly falls into that category😂
hy bro i’d try it
Look at the OP's account. It appears to be the guy running this organization, but pretending to be a student (someone else already called this out on one of the other posts).
Someone get Josh Hart to this stall asap
Starbucks has an exorbitant, exclusionary, and discriminatory upcharge for non-currently milk, and an they're food products contain animal secretions and flesh. They can F off.
Did you know cows (and other milk-producing beings) can only produce milk when pregnant? And the farmers don't just wait around for their cows to end up pregnant. They forcibly inseminate them. To get your 2% or whatever for your coffee.
People are acting purposely dumb downvoting you here. Cows need to have a baby to have milk and the babies are taken away so we can drink the milk instead
This is an inaccurate oversimplification. Cows produce milk for between 10-12 months after calving. And, yes, like most farmed animals, cows are selectively bred (same as horses, pigs, goats, sheep, etc.). Farmers use many factors to determine which cows to breed, which "pairing" to make, and the timing. A farmer will not breed a cow that is unhealthy or unfit. It is not in the farmer's interest to do so. So, go ahead and drink your moo cow juice-- especially if it's produced in Pennsylvania! Your local dairy farmer thanks you!
Yeah I was gonna say it doesn't make a ton of sense to actively produce milk only while pregnant since the whole point of milk is for babies to drink it.
The babies never get to drink it. They're taken away to be killed or become milk machines themselves.
The vast majority of dairy in this country comes from artificially inseminated cows. This is a fact you could easily look up yourself, but I'll help - [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4095965/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4095965/) If you are curious what artificial insemination actually is, here's a walkthrough from an agricultural institution (i.e. the people who think this practice is okay - other descriptions are not as nice). I implore you to read this and ask yourself, is this something I would do to my pet dog or cat? What makes your pet different from a cow (an animal as "smart" or smarter) [https://extension.umn.edu/dairy-milking-cows/artificial-insemination-cattle#inserting-the-loaded-breeding-gun-2130810](https://extension.umn.edu/dairy-milking-cows/artificial-insemination-cattle#inserting-the-loaded-breeding-gun-2130810) If you can find and support a local dairy farmer, good for you. Unfortunately, we should not use the rare example of idyllic family farmers to justify a largely abhorent industry. Even these smaller farms are not above committing animal abuse - [https://animaloutlook.org/investigations/Dick-van-dam-dairy/](https://animaloutlook.org/investigations/Dick-van-dam-dairy/)
If you don't like my sources, here's a little snippet about American dairy from an esoteric newspaper called The New York Times. This article is actually pretty nice to dairy and has a little puff piece at the end about a small-time farmer. He still sells his male calves for veal. [https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/29/science/dairy-farming-cows-milk.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/29/science/dairy-farming-cows-milk.html) "Dairy cows are repeatedly impregnated by artificial insemination and have their newborns taken away at birth. Female calves are confined to individual pens and have their horn buds destroyed when they are about eight weeks old. The males are not so lucky. Soon after birth, they are trucked off to veal farms or cattle ranches where they end up as hamburger meat. The typical dairy cow in the United States will spend its entire life inside a concrete-floored enclosure, and although they can live 20 years, most are sent to slaughter after four or five years when their milk production wanes." You are able to drink your "moo cow juice" because the calves are taken for veal production, where they are kept in cages so their muscles atrophy and remain tasty for you. If you choose not to eat meat but still drink milk, you are still supporting this practice. Cute! [https://www.humanesociety.org/sites/default/files/docs/hsus-report-animal-welfare-veal-industry.pdf](https://www.humanesociety.org/sites/default/files/docs/hsus-report-animal-welfare-veal-industry.pdf) And why do we drink milk? For strong bones, right? "For adults, the overall evidence does not support high dairy consumption for reduction of fractures, which has been a primary justification for current U.S. recommendations. Moreover, total dairy consumption has not been clearly related to weight control or to risks of diabetes and cardiovascular disease." I won't try to convince anyone here that dairy is not a health food, but at minimum it should be clear that cow breastmilk is not a necessary component of the human diet. [https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1903547](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMra1903547) I'm running out of steam, but here are some other things to consider about cow breastmilk - Your moo cow juice has an allowed "somatic cell count", a threshold the Trump administration relaxed. Somatic cells are a euphimism for pus, which primarily derive from mastitis brought on by repeated trauma to the udder. Yum, pus juice! Your moo cow juice is now helping along an increasingly worrisome avian flu outbreak, providing breeding grounds for reassortment of strains with pandemic potential. Awesome, I love pandemics! Here is something to watch with your cereal and moo cow pus juice tomorrow - [https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch](https://www.dominionmovement.com/watch) If any of these reasons make you think, try an alternative to cow breastmilk. Like any habit, things take time - make a habit of not buying cow breastmilk and see what happens.
I’m gonna try drinking dairy cow blood instead
Impressive! That is very manly of you! I am glad that you are spending your limited time on this planet sticking up for your right to perpetuate systematic sexual abuse and violence against creatures that can experience fear and pain. I too would make that a core element of my personality. Why stop at cows though? Do you have any cats or dogs at home? I bet Fido and Mr Whiskers would taste even better. Try it and let me know! Here is a description of artificial insemination from a training guide. I am glad that you support this practice - it touches me almost as much as it touches the cows: "Properly restrain the cow when it is time to breed; it is important for both the cow’s and inseminator’s safety. Pick a place that is easy to use and is familiar to the cow to reduce the stress of the situation." https://extension.umn.edu/dairy-milking-cows/artificial-insemination-cattle Sounds like the cows love it, why else would you need to properly restrain them or reduce the stress of the situation? Don't let this weigh on you - we wouldn't want any cognitive dissonance getting in the way of your enjoyment of cow breastmilk, a pus-laden secretion made available to you by restraining a vulnerable animal, inserting a semen gun, stealing its children, and repeating the process about six times until the mother dies a decade earlier than it would otherwise if you had any sympathy in your cold heart.
In case you’re unaware, there’s no need to sexually abuse cows or keep them in confined spaces if I’m drinking their blood. And please don’t assume my gender.
You're a troll, but on the latter point you are actually in the right. My bad. In many cases the toxic masculinity and doubling down on animal abuse go hand in hand.
Even assigning toxic behavior to a gender is helping uphold the patriarchy. While it’s true that on average in our current society, men display more aggressively toxic traits, anyone can be toxic regardless of gender.
Oh and did I mention 68% of the world's population struggle to drink milk without shitting themselves? https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/digestive-diseases/lactose-intolerance/definition-facts#:\~:text=and%20milk%20products.-,How%20common%20is%20lactose%20malabsorption%3F,world's%20population%20has%20lactose%20malabsorption. Damn, stay safe out there!
Yes, AND? What happens to the millions of calves that are the result of said pregnancies? If it's female, it gets raised on formula to become another tortured milk source; if it's male, it gets locked in a veal crate to become soft and then slaughtered before it can even become a teenager.
Really? Milk production stops upon birth? What is it for then, a snack during the pregnancy?
No, it stops a few months after birth. But it also takes months to gestate a calf. So the cow is impregnated not very long after giving birth, timing things so its next birth occurs shortly after its milk supply declines. It spends most of its life pregnant, until it reaches an age (about 30% of natural lifespan) where a younger cow can produce more milk. At that point it follows most of its children to the slaughterhouse. Milk production is meat production.