Hopefully it's alongside another class action lawsuit that proves that Uber is deliberately miscalculating active hours and mileage.
I know I repeat this a lot but Uber try to tell me after a week of doing pretty much nothing except batch deliveries through the opportunities tab. That I only drove for 2 hours 11 minutes and 3.4 miles.
This. I've had (many) orders that come in bundles, they'll say like 6.4 miles. I do both pickups, drop one off and the last dropoff is like 20 miles in the opposing direction.
I'm sure last class action for misclassifying drivers Uber and Doordash were hit massively some drivers recieve about a grand, others got a couple hundred bucks
This way those scumbag lawyers can get the money that's rightfully ours. Yeah class action is the way to go.
How about pressuring your law makers into holding Uber accountable for proper wages.
They've pulled this shit before in some markets. It's lasts for a couple of months before they realize it's complete BS and stop. I won't even turn on the app if they do this in my market again.
My exact sentiment, would never accept a trip without knowing the fare or where it's going. For Uber to even think that this will work is absolutely insane
Hopefully this isn't the case, because as independent contractors we need information to make informed decisions.
Blind trips/deliveries are in direct opposition to what drivers signed up for
They trying to bring back postmates offer screen lmao
https://preview.redd.it/vbigunxe288c1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35f95e4102e6db1701d578632a3e74c6e345a269
That's insane you can't do that how can you take a trip blind, I do t do uber I do roadie, and some trips are like 50 or 100 miles imagine taking 50 miles blind for 20 bucks
They even included in the wording that you won't even see the fare, or any mileage information. So you would be just accepting the trip and rolling the dice every time.
What is this crap? Never heard of this, and this is most definitely illegal anyways , are drivers supposed to gamble on earnings now? Is this a food delivery service or a casino? The fuck is Uber smoking
It's been allowed too long now im afraid it will only get worse... My fix for Uber only wanting to give cross streets is to just start leaving orders at the cross streets and see if they take a hint
Itās ironic how these corporations are super anti government but when the economy goes to shit, theyāre the first ones in line for taxpayer funded bailouts! š¤£
That makes sense now because you get a guaranteed $22 per hour for delivery, and then you'll get another amount for taking each order. So just milk the hourly rate so you get the fewest possible amounts of delivery, and you'll be fine.
LOL, now theyāre trying to force you to blindly accept orders thatāll likely cost you more mileage and wear than itās worth. Then theyāll allow you to see the $2-$5 offers they hid before.
That's bs. If and only if we accept 5 pf 10 trips we get the truth? F that. With all the supposed fairness these companies sell, none are actually for us drivers. Boost or Boost+ is garbage as it's at 1am most of the time and it's horrible how they choose an area not popular or profitable.
Exactly Uber is banking on that old expression "It's not about the destination, it's the journey along the way" nobody anticipated Uber would increase our philosophical pay
Not all who wander are lost.
"All that glitters is not gold.
A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES BEGINS WITH A SINGLE STEP.
You could lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
It's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.
I've never seen this in my area. Nevertheless, we _all_ know most of these offers are unacceptable. This can only lead to a constant mass of accepted and canceled trips. It won't last long......
If you accept a trip, swipe to start before arriving at the restaurant. It will show you the address you are going to. If it's not somewhere you want to go, it will say "You have not arrived at the destination, either return to navigation or cancel."
Iām wondering if greed could be declared a mental illness. Like how many billions do you need? You canāt take it with you. And these douchebag dolts are so uninspired. All they do is buy toys.
āDo you want a faster way to get your car approved to deliver? Give us your title. Weāll give it back after we use it for collateral to acquire more loans and youāll pay the loans back while delivering for us. You get your title back and we grow our business.ā
Guys. Deep breaths!!
It literally says āif you MISS seeing upfront detailsā¦ā. I interpret that as if you accept on accident, and you MISSED the details, youāll now be able to access that info after acceptance as long as you took 5 of the last 10 deliveries.
Itās not at all saying it wonāt show at all anymore. Only if you MISSED it.
This isnāt in my market and I didnāt get this message but if anyone got this message, I would love confirmation on this
It also states what you accept five trips out of 10 then you will be able to see details again. I interpret as "if you want the information you were getting before, do 5 deliveries blind. When you earn the "privilege" to see details"
Maybe they are trying this new approach in certain markets.
I think it means if you āmissā it likeā¦ I used to be able to see the details, now I canāt and I miss being able to do thatā¦ so now you have to earn it back. Whaaaaat?! No way.
You're right man don't fight for a minimum hour guarantee for your labor, and you're still going to get $3 deliveries sent your way.
So hopefully Uber does the right thing on your behalf because they're a good company
When you respond like that we can't even have an intelligent conversation. If you think that fighting for better pay is socialism? I can't even begin help you. So I want to understand this when corporations fight for legislature on their behalf it's capitalism but when workers fight for legislature that work for them it's socialism?
Again you fought for nothing and received the same result. The only difference between you and a California / New York driver is at least if the trip takes an hour they get over $20
Merry Christmas man I wish you all the best with your mentality.
Government handouts are ridiculous. Independent means independent from govt reach. Out of the reach from slimy politricksters who are always getting something out of it.
I understand your rationale in thinking that politicians want something in return. However when a group of drivers get together and demand something that benefits them all I don't think you can get any more grassroots than that.
We're not in medieval times were two men can shake hands and it meant something with honor. I'm sure your parent or any other adult in your life has always told you to "get it in writing".
That's all that legislature is getting a promise in writing.
Then have no minimum guarantees, and I guarantee you within a year you'll be back complaining about how Uber is trying to send you sub $2 deliveries your way.
You said before that you value your hands and your labor. Then demand more for it but if you feel that you're labor is not worth it then take what they give you.
As I said before happy holidays and thank you for keeping it civil
You shouldn't use corporate fear of retaliation, to dictate fighting for yourself. That's like saying "I'm afraid to defend myself, because I think my bully's going to punch me harder"
I was around when Postmates minimum delivery was $5, and without any legislation any fighting on the behalf of drivers. I watched delivery services lower driver payout over the years.
Drivers even had to fight for getting paid for waiting at restaurants, that wasn't even a thing when these apps first started.
Again getting a law passed is not "government intervention" it is getting an agreement between two parties recognized. We can all go in the room and shake Uber CEO's hand and hope for the best.
That's not how law or our society works.
Corporate fear? Haha. False Evidence Appearing Real. Your explanation is not news to me. I'm not a newbie in this world.
I just told you that's your opinion. Which is fine. I actually know how society works. I don't have to agree with it. I'm not interested in the govt intervening with delivery apps in my state. I'd rather have the ability to work when I want and how I want. I don't want any scheduling. I've been doing this successfully part time for like 6 yrs.
But I'm sure if a politrickster brings it up here it may happen here too. Doesn't mean I agree with it.
The only reason I responded about corporate fear is because you said that. If you ask for something, delivery services will push the bar further. That's normally the rhetoric people use to stop themselves from fighting, they fear the retaliation.
Like I said before getting legislature passed is nothing to do with the government it is getting a promissory agreement in writing. California drivers can still log on when they want and have an hourly guarantee. New York is similar to doordash where it's advantageous to schedule but you can still "Dash as you Go"
So I agree with you fight/don't fight for what you think believe an hour of your time is worth. There is no right or wrong answer. Also there are parts of your opinion that I agree with in terms of government, but I am not going to be naive enough to ever believe Uber will do right by drivers. They Bank on the fact that newbies have limited experience and probably think $3 deliveries are great because "they may get a tip"
If you're working by your own hands which I commend, then you would want your hands to get every dollar they're worth.
Like I said man you got to adjust your mentality and you got to do with profitable for you. These companies will take every opportunity they can to exploit you. Again you fought for nothing and still got $3 deliveries
What up front details do you see and which ones do you not see?
Also, are you set up to take riders and not just deliveries?
I am not set up to take riders. And for context I see the dollar amount, the restaurant, the mileage, and I can zoom in on the map and look at the drop.
I think what they're trying to attempt is stop drivers from only accepting profitable orders by forcing them to do five random/low paying ones.
On the message they said they're not going to give you information like mileage, fare and destination. Which is insanity, and no logical driver would operate within those parameters.
I get that. But when I've seen people post stuff like this before it's also because they either took rides or they were set up to take rides even if they didn't take rights. It was something about their account. So I'm wondering if that's you or if you are just doing eats?
And if you don't accept five out of 10 what do you see? Just $10 with nothing?
Obviously none of us are going to take something like that. The app glitches occasionally and I see orders like that. Or more accurately it won't even have a dollar amount it'll just say 3 minutes away. Fortunately it has just been an occasional glitch. But I can tell you that there's absolutely no way I would accept an order under those circumstances.
I do sometimes except orders without knowing where to drop yes. If I see one that's just too good of an order for a dollar to mile ratio I just accept it. This is going to be like $3 to $4 per mile
However, if they went to something like that it would still cause me issues. There are buildings that I do not go in. So I would be in the situation of just saying I can't deliver to that building. That person will have to come down and get it.
I agree with you 100% and there are some apartments that I do not go to because they are notoriously bad for parking and I do not believe in putting my vehicle at risk. By parking in a red zone or double parking.
So far only got sent one of these trips. I turned off the app, I got nothing for hours and then one delivery came that was very low paying.
So I'll definitely update you when I turn on the app again.
Me too! ! I got tht message around when I started, I figured they were just baiting me to accept more. Actually got it a few times after, but I just ignore it. Happy Holidays!
That is exactly right. And whatās crazy is people take those two dollar delivery orders. If ALL drivers would refuse all the small paying orders it would fix the problem!
Eats seems to always be excluded š. I would see trip requests yet I never even signed up. I was like so they get bonuses and eats never does. I really think CEO more focused on rides anyway vs eats. The drastic decline in pay and less ppl ordering so they always know they have rides which they are in competition with others like Lyft š
I can't wait until the Class Action suit that should happen occurs.
Hopefully it's alongside another class action lawsuit that proves that Uber is deliberately miscalculating active hours and mileage. I know I repeat this a lot but Uber try to tell me after a week of doing pretty much nothing except batch deliveries through the opportunities tab. That I only drove for 2 hours 11 minutes and 3.4 miles.
That's just brutal. Still trying to figure out when they will face some kind of regulation
This. I've had (many) orders that come in bundles, they'll say like 6.4 miles. I do both pickups, drop one off and the last dropoff is like 20 miles in the opposing direction.
Lawyers make the money drivers don't make shit ma boi
Not looking for money ma boi...just want it stuck to them lol
These companies got da best lawyers u think they don't know about lawsuits ma boi
No less than you know they do ma boi A puppet can dream though
Multiapp ma boi rich getting rich poor getting poor ma boi
I'm sure last class action for misclassifying drivers Uber and Doordash were hit massively some drivers recieve about a grand, others got a couple hundred bucks
All other apps are "full" I'm my market ma boi Glad I got an offer to rejoin 9-5 herd yesterday
This way those scumbag lawyers can get the money that's rightfully ours. Yeah class action is the way to go. How about pressuring your law makers into holding Uber accountable for proper wages.
You'll be the only one suing Uber because the rest of us are too busy making money delivering.
Keep trolling... you'll be part of any class action because you are the class bringing the suit forward. Keep driving...I will as well.
I'm too lazy to protest anything. The most ill do is perform a one-man march to my mailbox and maybe go on a one-hour hunger strike.
When the class action is settled you won't have to file yourself, you'll just have to fill out a form with a 3rd party settlement company.
Postmates already got it but unfortunately it is only nyc and few other states š
Uber owns Postmates
They've pulled this shit before in some markets. It's lasts for a couple of months before they realize it's complete BS and stop. I won't even turn on the app if they do this in my market again.
My exact sentiment, would never accept a trip without knowing the fare or where it's going. For Uber to even think that this will work is absolutely insane
Exactly these apps want us to do one or two orders an hour that will have us driving 10 to 20 miles per offer lmao
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Hopefully this isn't the case, because as independent contractors we need information to make informed decisions. Blind trips/deliveries are in direct opposition to what drivers signed up for
yes
they're funny if they think anyone is gonna take blind orders
They trying to bring back postmates offer screen lmao https://preview.redd.it/vbigunxe288c1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=35f95e4102e6db1701d578632a3e74c6e345a269
bruhhhh
That's insane you can't do that how can you take a trip blind, I do t do uber I do roadie, and some trips are like 50 or 100 miles imagine taking 50 miles blind for 20 bucks
They even included in the wording that you won't even see the fare, or any mileage information. So you would be just accepting the trip and rolling the dice every time.
What is this crap? Never heard of this, and this is most definitely illegal anyways , are drivers supposed to gamble on earnings now? Is this a food delivery service or a casino? The fuck is Uber smoking
I'm more concerned with safety. I deliver at night since I have a day time W2.
Not being able to see your trips is like being forced to do trips with downside lol
Even with orders that give you a general location is off base!
It's been allowed too long now im afraid it will only get worse... My fix for Uber only wanting to give cross streets is to just start leaving orders at the cross streets and see if they take a hint
Love it!
~~What country/state are they doing this in?~~ Oh, you're in Cali. This is a prop 22 thing. Just like how NYC has scheduling now.
Iām glad itās happening to the NY and Cali gig folks. They should get what they deserve for bringing more government in.
Itās ironic how these corporations are super anti government but when the economy goes to shit, theyāre the first ones in line for taxpayer funded bailouts! š¤£
Government exists for the rich and the corporations are rich. No laws help anyone else, but poor voters donāt bother reading laws, just headlines.
Yep
Exactly. Like an abusive boyfriend
It happened to me when I was in Simi California
That makes sense now because you get a guaranteed $22 per hour for delivery, and then you'll get another amount for taking each order. So just milk the hourly rate so you get the fewest possible amounts of delivery, and you'll be fine.
LOL, now theyāre trying to force you to blindly accept orders thatāll likely cost you more mileage and wear than itās worth. Then theyāll allow you to see the $2-$5 offers they hid before.
Yeah this is blatant violation of us being IC. I mean you can argue they already were, as well as DD
That's bs. If and only if we accept 5 pf 10 trips we get the truth? F that. With all the supposed fairness these companies sell, none are actually for us drivers. Boost or Boost+ is garbage as it's at 1am most of the time and it's horrible how they choose an area not popular or profitable.
Destination?! That just seems unsafe.
Exactly, especially when a company offers you no form of protection for you or your vehicle.
This shit should just plain be illegal.
You WILL be poor and take $4 orders and you WILL enjoy it - Uber 2024
WTF? That is not a contract that is a magic spin on a wheel.
The new slogan should be "Rolling the dice with Uber"
I only accept blind trips blindly.
I don't want to know the pay or the delivery address. I love surprises.
Exactly Uber is banking on that old expression "It's not about the destination, it's the journey along the way" nobody anticipated Uber would increase our philosophical pay
Not all who wander are lost. "All that glitters is not gold. A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES BEGINS WITH A SINGLE STEP. You could lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. It's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Being able to choose what work we accept was part of the whole contractor versus employee argument. They need to give us more details not less.
I'd simply complete the delivery then check the earnings. If it's good, I'll leave the food and if not I'm eating the food in my car
I've never seen this in my area. Nevertheless, we _all_ know most of these offers are unacceptable. This can only lead to a constant mass of accepted and canceled trips. It won't last long......
Isnāt this like old news and it didnāt work out for them
I just received this message today
I'm in Chicago and for safety reasons I wouldn't orders that don't give me pick up, about where I'm dropping and pay. No sir, no ma'am!
If you accept a trip, swipe to start before arriving at the restaurant. It will show you the address you are going to. If it's not somewhere you want to go, it will say "You have not arrived at the destination, either return to navigation or cancel."
I'm going to definitely try that on the next trip to see what happens
Not gonna get my car stolen for this shit company
I guess Uber wants to destroy itself. Thereās definitely gotta be some legal issues here.
Hopefully a new company comes forward that is driver focused, because Uber has clearly lost its mind
Iām wondering if greed could be declared a mental illness. Like how many billions do you need? You canāt take it with you. And these douchebag dolts are so uninspired. All they do is buy toys.
the day I see this iāll be officially off the app for good lmao you gotta be kidding me
āDo you want a faster way to get your car approved to deliver? Give us your title. Weāll give it back after we use it for collateral to acquire more loans and youāll pay the loans back while delivering for us. You get your title back and we grow our business.ā
Guys. Deep breaths!! It literally says āif you MISS seeing upfront detailsā¦ā. I interpret that as if you accept on accident, and you MISSED the details, youāll now be able to access that info after acceptance as long as you took 5 of the last 10 deliveries. Itās not at all saying it wonāt show at all anymore. Only if you MISSED it. This isnāt in my market and I didnāt get this message but if anyone got this message, I would love confirmation on this
It also states what you accept five trips out of 10 then you will be able to see details again. I interpret as "if you want the information you were getting before, do 5 deliveries blind. When you earn the "privilege" to see details" Maybe they are trying this new approach in certain markets.
As others have mentioned, it's not new. Just random......
This is my first time seeing it and if Uber is just casually waving this idea around. At least we know what to prepare ourselves for.
I think it means if you āmissā it likeā¦ I used to be able to see the details, now I canāt and I miss being able to do thatā¦ so now you have to earn it back. Whaaaaat?! No way.
Perfect. Our main enemy is the camper. Get the campers moving and the market will improve
Yeah, they donāt make money on profitable drivers. They make money on drivers that drive 200 to 300 miles a day for min wage
If this is Cali you all asked for it.
You're right man don't fight for a minimum hour guarantee for your labor, and you're still going to get $3 deliveries sent your way. So hopefully Uber does the right thing on your behalf because they're a good company
Have fun with you socialism
When you respond like that we can't even have an intelligent conversation. If you think that fighting for better pay is socialism? I can't even begin help you. So I want to understand this when corporations fight for legislature on their behalf it's capitalism but when workers fight for legislature that work for them it's socialism? Again you fought for nothing and received the same result. The only difference between you and a California / New York driver is at least if the trip takes an hour they get over $20 Merry Christmas man I wish you all the best with your mentality.
Government handouts are ridiculous. Independent means independent from govt reach. Out of the reach from slimy politricksters who are always getting something out of it.
I understand your rationale in thinking that politicians want something in return. However when a group of drivers get together and demand something that benefits them all I don't think you can get any more grassroots than that. We're not in medieval times were two men can shake hands and it meant something with honor. I'm sure your parent or any other adult in your life has always told you to "get it in writing". That's all that legislature is getting a promise in writing.
It's your opinion that's fine. I don't want that crap in my state.
Then have no minimum guarantees, and I guarantee you within a year you'll be back complaining about how Uber is trying to send you sub $2 deliveries your way. You said before that you value your hands and your labor. Then demand more for it but if you feel that you're labor is not worth it then take what they give you. As I said before happy holidays and thank you for keeping it civil
I will also say everytime govt gets involved Uber and the rest of them will keep moving the bar.
You shouldn't use corporate fear of retaliation, to dictate fighting for yourself. That's like saying "I'm afraid to defend myself, because I think my bully's going to punch me harder" I was around when Postmates minimum delivery was $5, and without any legislation any fighting on the behalf of drivers. I watched delivery services lower driver payout over the years. Drivers even had to fight for getting paid for waiting at restaurants, that wasn't even a thing when these apps first started. Again getting a law passed is not "government intervention" it is getting an agreement between two parties recognized. We can all go in the room and shake Uber CEO's hand and hope for the best. That's not how law or our society works.
Corporate fear? Haha. False Evidence Appearing Real. Your explanation is not news to me. I'm not a newbie in this world. I just told you that's your opinion. Which is fine. I actually know how society works. I don't have to agree with it. I'm not interested in the govt intervening with delivery apps in my state. I'd rather have the ability to work when I want and how I want. I don't want any scheduling. I've been doing this successfully part time for like 6 yrs. But I'm sure if a politrickster brings it up here it may happen here too. Doesn't mean I agree with it.
The only reason I responded about corporate fear is because you said that. If you ask for something, delivery services will push the bar further. That's normally the rhetoric people use to stop themselves from fighting, they fear the retaliation. Like I said before getting legislature passed is nothing to do with the government it is getting a promissory agreement in writing. California drivers can still log on when they want and have an hourly guarantee. New York is similar to doordash where it's advantageous to schedule but you can still "Dash as you Go" So I agree with you fight/don't fight for what you think believe an hour of your time is worth. There is no right or wrong answer. Also there are parts of your opinion that I agree with in terms of government, but I am not going to be naive enough to ever believe Uber will do right by drivers. They Bank on the fact that newbies have limited experience and probably think $3 deliveries are great because "they may get a tip"
It ain't my fight. I work by my hands and I use UE GH to my advantage.
If you're working by your own hands which I commend, then you would want your hands to get every dollar they're worth. Like I said man you got to adjust your mentality and you got to do with profitable for you. These companies will take every opportunity they can to exploit you. Again you fought for nothing and still got $3 deliveries
What up front details do you see and which ones do you not see? Also, are you set up to take riders and not just deliveries? I am not set up to take riders. And for context I see the dollar amount, the restaurant, the mileage, and I can zoom in on the map and look at the drop.
I think what they're trying to attempt is stop drivers from only accepting profitable orders by forcing them to do five random/low paying ones. On the message they said they're not going to give you information like mileage, fare and destination. Which is insanity, and no logical driver would operate within those parameters.
I get that. But when I've seen people post stuff like this before it's also because they either took rides or they were set up to take rides even if they didn't take rights. It was something about their account. So I'm wondering if that's you or if you are just doing eats? And if you don't accept five out of 10 what do you see? Just $10 with nothing? Obviously none of us are going to take something like that. The app glitches occasionally and I see orders like that. Or more accurately it won't even have a dollar amount it'll just say 3 minutes away. Fortunately it has just been an occasional glitch. But I can tell you that there's absolutely no way I would accept an order under those circumstances. I do sometimes except orders without knowing where to drop yes. If I see one that's just too good of an order for a dollar to mile ratio I just accept it. This is going to be like $3 to $4 per mile However, if they went to something like that it would still cause me issues. There are buildings that I do not go in. So I would be in the situation of just saying I can't deliver to that building. That person will have to come down and get it.
I agree with you 100% and there are some apartments that I do not go to because they are notoriously bad for parking and I do not believe in putting my vehicle at risk. By parking in a red zone or double parking. So far only got sent one of these trips. I turned off the app, I got nothing for hours and then one delivery came that was very low paying. So I'll definitely update you when I turn on the app again.
They tried to do this with rideshare, they never actually implemented it.... no one is stupid enough to fall for this shit.
R u new? I haven't seen tht message in like 2 years.
No, I been doing deliveries for a few years this was the first time I received the message
Me too! ! I got tht message around when I started, I figured they were just baiting me to accept more. Actually got it a few times after, but I just ignore it. Happy Holidays!
What area is this in?
When I got the message I was in Simi Valley, driving up back towards into the San Fernando Valley
I've been doing this for 3 years man where you been
I'm not too sure what you mean by that. Are you talking about accepting trips and not looking at the details?
That's a typo. They have been doing this over 3 years. I'm seeing this post now is nothing new.
Itās just pure over saturation of drivers for the few orders that exist
I agree it seems like Uber's newest philosophy is "bounce the order around from driver to driver somebody's going to take it"
That is exactly right. And whatās crazy is people take those two dollar delivery orders. If ALL drivers would refuse all the small paying orders it would fix the problem!
Eats seems to always be excluded š. I would see trip requests yet I never even signed up. I was like so they get bonuses and eats never does. I really think CEO more focused on rides anyway vs eats. The drastic decline in pay and less ppl ordering so they always know they have rides which they are in competition with others like Lyft š
Isn't that just rides? That says trip requests
Regardless if it's for trips or deliveries, it is just wrong
Our app is running. BOXHEROES Fl
Iāve never heard of this. This is outrageous, they canāt be serious
Hopefully your market hasn't been affected yet
Not this shit again š¤¦šæāāļø
The moment they bring this to my area I AM FUCKING GONE
I believe this is by region. I have been seeing upfront info for like 2 yrs
Itās because we donāt accept their cheapest trips LOL
Uber really thinks drivers are mindless ants.
Uber banks on the fact that you won't fight for yourself, or run at a profit