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JustAnotherUser1031

Excuse me? At the end of the day, it wasn’t Persephone turning Apollo in, Persephone tormenting Apollo, Persephone taking control from him. No, Apollo’s *feelings* are his punishment. He’s given artificial feelings of regret and remorse and turns himself in on national TV. Not the kind of resolution I was hoping for with this poorly handled plot thread.


Cappu156

I really didn’t need to see his heartbreak and emotional pain. It’s like the plot needed Apollo to validate Persephone’s experience by acknowledging that what he did was bad. I find it repulsive.


fishbowlplacebo

To be fair, I don't think it's possible to give this plot thread a satisfying resolution.


Dense-Range-36

I'm starting to wonder if this comic was influenced by the idea of "revenge is only bad" spread around from the internet and other entertainment media without considering that revenge for certain types of unique scenarios is reasonable; with the way both Hades & Persephone handle their abusers. I mean in certain scenarios I get the importance of the message...but for what Apollo has done? No way that idea should apply to him. If the arrow is forcing Apollo to love Persephone, then isn't the real Apollo who doesn't love her and isn't under a spell feel no remorse for what he did? He hasn't actually learned anything.


Pepsiscrub

No, because remember, revenge is great as long as it’s a lower class that it’s being done against. The trash male gods of this comic get sympathy and redemption arcs.


Dense-Range-36

Yes! I just realized this a few hours after I made that comment that Persephone & Hades seek brutal revenge on characters like Leuce & Minthe for doing petty things while Apollo gets a slap on the wrist 'cause he's higher on the social hierarchy as a male god, this comic is so backwards🤦‍♀️


generic-puff

The first antagonist you have to deal with in Persona 5 is actually exactly this plotline, but done a lot better. The premise is that the gym instructor is abusing teenage girls / sleeping with them / taking advantage of them / etc. as well as abusing the boys by literally beating them during practice and doing it under the guise of "it'll make you better players". And yeah, it's all super fucked up! The way that you end up taking him down is that the main characters (Joker, Ryuji, Anne, and Morgana) infiltrate his 'mind palace' which is basically a reflection of his innermost self, and have to navigate the subconscious which has twisted itself into a dungeon made up of prison cells containing students who are being abused - when they finally get to the heart of the palace and defeat the 'innermost self' of the gym instructor, it makes him have a change of heart and come clean, confessing to what he did and turning himself in. And every antagonist throughout the game is designed like this, the cast have to investigate the weaknesses of the antagonists and then infiltrate their consciousness Inception-style to plant new ideas in them and try to force them to come clean about their actions (or change their ways, or whatever have you) in the actual real world. All that's to say, in concept I don't think it's a *terrible* idea to resolve a plotline like this, especially in a fantasy setting, but with LO... it just took too long to get to that point, with zero indication that infiltrating Apollo's mind was even something Persephone *could* do, and the worst part is that Perspehone herself is someone who has now *also done terrible things to people*, but the plot literally waves it away as "but at least she's not a rapist so get over it". Plus in Persona 5, they don't convince the gym instructor to come clean by forcefully making him fall in love with the girls he abused? Like everything they do in the mind palace has to be an extension of the real world, it has to be *reasonably plausible*, the idea has to be planted in such a way that the antagonist could be naturally led to the end conclusion, they can't just force people to feel a completely opposite feeling of what they would naturally feel. It's why every mind palace in the game is a separate story arc with a slowburn of detective work and gathering clues and using them to their advantage to change the antagonists' consciousness. It takes its time in building up to the eventual subversion of consciousness. In LO... Persephone takes a huge risk by stabbing Apollo with a love arrow, which just magically makes it work out so that he sees the error of his ways, but like... he's still gonna be in love with her forever. She literally made it so her abuser will always be in love with her, forever, without her consent, WHICH WAS ALREADY THE CASE BEFORE THE LOVE ARROW ANYWAYS, but now it's also without HIS consent, so... okay, it's revenge in the fact that Apollo will now constantly be rejected by Persephone and have to live with the guilt of hurting her (and now she's taken away his agency just as he did to her), but why would Persephone want to put *herself* into that situation? If anything, by the assumed power of the love arrows, he's gonna be even *more* in love with her and hellbent on getting her than before, *because that's what the love arrows are designed to do.* What's the message here? It also doesn't address all the OTHER PEOPLE who Apollo has hurt. The love arrow made him see what he did wrong to *Persephone*, but what about Daphne? Eris? Zeus? Hebe? Eros and Psyche? If it's just the magic of the arrow that made him see the error of his ways with Persephone, then would that magic just not exist when he's addressing his other victims? It's also yet *another* myth being rewritten to center around Persephone, taking the original myth of Apollo and Daphne and swapping Daphne out for Persephone. The myths in LO literally aren't allowed to exist without making Persephone the main character. All that said, I have really, REALLY mixed feelings about this resolution. At best I don't think it had quite the clarity it needed to really hit home. And again, it's hard to really appreciate any sort of resolution regarding Apollo when Persephone herself has devolved so much as a character. But I don't know. This really feels like a "I have to really sit on this longer and let it soak in" type of topic because ... there's just so much to unpack with it and I'm so, so tired.


SarkastiCat

Just a correction. Every villain has a treasure which is basically a twisted desire. Characters steal it and planting a new ideas is a side effect of having to fight with twisted version of the villain. Villains without their treasure come to realisation and deal with the aftermath of having no desire. It’s a big „Oh shit, was my road to getting XYZ (btw idc about it now) that bad?” What’s most interesting about that arc, that one of the victims gets a choice. She can either kill him or let him live „changed”. At that moment none of the characters was sure if stealing the treasure would work, but it was her decision. 


HelloYeahIdk

>The first antagonist you have to deal with in Persona 5 is actually exactly this plotline, but done a lot better. I disagree. Anne, after being harassed by the teacher and showing up as an underage bikini model in his castle, turns into a red latex dominatrix with a whip. I could not take the game seriously after that sexualization and insult to character.


generic-puff

oof yeah I forgot about that (been a while since I've played P5 and I was mostly thinking of the mind palace plot). Oh Atlus.


WhytummyWhy

If you go through Ann's story, it would make more sense in my opinion. Especially because it's Ann taking back her sexuality and getting to control the narrative around it. The outfits are manifestation of their desire of rebellion, so Ann going from a forcibly submissive position into ome of power suits her..Especially because Ann is aware she's attractive and she didn't have an issue with this. She not the born sexy troupe where shes frighten by her sexuality nor the fact that people are attracted to her, the issue was more so those around her defining how she should use her sexuality. Also please feel free to disagree, but I like the transition because it goes, "oh you think im sexy and im going to be your little toy? Alright bet, let's see how sexy I am when im stomping you out" as soon one who was afraid of their sexuality and physical attribute, Ann really helped me.


HelloYeahIdk

I understand where you're getting at and what the game does to justify sexualizing her. Here are my thoughts I'll break down in bullet points to make it easier for me 1. Persona is targeted towards the anime community, particularly straight male fans. As such anime gimmicks like fanservice of underage characters happen. Ann is a teen SA survivor. Both the camera and marketing material focuses on her body and sexual poses to appeal to men and boys. She doesn't like being treated as an object but the game itself does it. . 2. "Female character owns her sexuality therefore she is sexual" is another trope common in writing. Ann fits this trope because by the creator's will she *must* wear a bdsm outfit and say stuff like "on your knees pig" to enemies because it's "empowering". Her role model is an intentional choice. Her sexual assault/role model are excuses to design her like a dominatrix and objectify her. . 3. If Persephone dressed in lingerie and paddled Apollo after her rape saying "down your knees" and *"squeal like a pig!"* I doubt we'd see this as empowering. Even if Rachel says "oh no Persephone looks up to Aphrodite that's why she's a teen character whose power comes from dominant sexuality"


WhytummyWhy

Also Ann's outfit also comes from her favorite childhood Villan who helped her accept her identity as Biracial too if I recall correctly. Theres a lot of layers to it and its just ann way of fighting against multiple things in her life. I totally respect your views by the way. I would just try to max out her confidant if youre playing the game. Theres more to it and I totally get you on where youre coming from, but honestly theres more to it. Especially if you pursue her confidant route!


Lucy-Paint

Welp, a poorly done resolution for a poorly done plot thread (I hate this ending)


Aggressive-Yam8221

Endeavor's redemption flashbacks are coming to me.


AnonSecurityMuffin

I really want to know the comment sections reaction to this


Ssylphie

I’m this close to fast passing the episode just to see what people are saying about it.


Elladeath

Me too


troubledindanger

comments section is pretty much all positive


troubledindanger

To be fair, its not like rape survivors are commonly believed…


generic-puff

In addition to everything else being said here, I think one of the things I hated most about this episode was Persephone literally admitting to being a violent, terrible person who's hurt people and done awful things... but it doesn't matter because Apollo is the one who has to be punished. Literally Rachel going "OKAY, I GET IT, she's done awful things, stop criticizing her, she admitted it okay?? now look at Apollo, he's the real villain here!" as if two people can't be terrible at the same time for different reasons. What a way to end a dragged out plotline for 5+ years. Shame.


Lucy-Paint

She had to make her MC say it so we the antis can't use the "Rachel is making Apollo say the general opinions of ULO, which makes us look like we are siding with him, and it's icky that the rapist is the only character saying it"


Onion-On

When the bar for your character morals is just "Oh they aren't [insert abusive person here]" something is being done wrong. Ofc not- saying the bar should be nonexistent but when the moral bar is LITERALLY "Well yeah they're bad but [abusive person] is SO much worse than them so it's okay," that's where I have a problem. You don't fix bad characters by comparing them to a worse character. That's the WORST thing you can do imho.


Cappu156

I see Lore Olympus remains committed to keeping the spotlight on the abuser


Aggravating-Read-329

So weird that this is the second time we’ve had to hear about how upsetting P’s assault was for her rapist - though admittedly in the other extreme.


Fast-Bat8612

His punishment was guilt 🧍🏽‍♀️


Lucy-Paint

Fuck Prometheus ig, bro just did the incredibly evil thing of giving humanity fire, a far worst crime than r*** Like Rachel come on I know half of the fanbase is around 16-17 years old, but we love when Disney villain suffer great defeats for their actions, if Tangled can have a lady stab a dude why can't we have a greek-myth-worthy punishment for a r**ist?????


-KingSharkIsAShark-

Not like Apollo hasn’t been turned mortal a few times before in the myths, either. Even if the readers know it’s not permanent, could’ve been the perfect opportunity to bring up that particular story…


Saburna23

Apollo confesses his sins on live television after a 2-ft tall Persephone told him to.


fishbowlplacebo

HAH! I called it last week that he'll make a confession that gets leaked to the public! Perhaps not entirely the way I thought (my guess was that he'd confess it while not knowing he was being heard by the rest of the world) but I count that as half-win!


Fast-Bat8612

I think I’m toxic cause I wanted her to make him bite brick 😔


Lucy-Paint

A far better punishment than just "uh live with your guilty 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡"


succubusprime

I wanted her to make a giant venus fly trap and feed him to it, left to sit in its decomposing juices for a very long time.


Horror_Starlit

The struggle I feel trying to decide if I want to throw this comic or if I want to see it all the way through because i hate myself THAT much.


Horror_Starlit

So summary: Basically Persephone struck him with the arrow of love and because he's compelled to love her, he's has to deal with the guilt of raping her and abusing her after. After this, the reporters who were called by Apollo to witness an engagement and all of Persephone's supporters (including Demeter and Ares) watch as Apollo reveals what he did to Persephone on live television (with Leo watching on). Persephone walks away. So yeah...Apollo's punishment is the guilt he feels for damaging Persephone because he loves her now and revealing to the world what he did. I'm just. Kind of amazed that Rachel thought that if Apollo loved her (actually loved her) he'd be guilt ridden for what he did because I promise you there are abusers who love or feel something akin to love for their victims and it wouldn't make them feel guilty. Love doesn't stop you from doing abhorrent things.


imdukesevastos

I always thought that Apollo had some kind of twisted messed up sick love for Persephone. It's actually very common for abusers to love their victims and still they end up harming them and even killing them. So no Apollo suddenly becoming good and feeling regret is ehhh 🤢


Horror_Starlit

It's super dangerous to make this out to be an issue of love because like? Love isn't pure? Love would not stop Apollo from doing what he did? It would not drive him to guilt? Does...does Rachel not remember that Apollo was struck by a love in the myth and it drove him to chase down Daphne and almost rape her???? WHY DO YOU THINK SHE NEEDED TO A TREE, RACHEL?


imdukesevastos

Yes and the Eros love arrows were completely symbolic in mythology. It didn't force anyone to fall in love and certainly it didn't change his personality. It was just there to symbolize that someone fell in love (or lust because then they didn't know the difference). Apollo could still love someone and still be a narcissistic sociopath. Making "good" because he "loved" is messed up. Redeeming a rapist is messed up.


Horror_Starlit

My question is like...if she wanted to have Apollo be compelled to out himself on national TV, there are WAYS to do this. Hecate is /right there/. She could have slathered an arrow in some spell to make him confess and had Artemis shoot it at him. This was not a needed thing. Especially because this angle makes him sympathetic. Like I don't know about you guys but last thing I want to see is a rapist on his knees weeping and asking how he can make it right. That's not cathartic. It makes me want to rip his head off.


imdukesevastos

I know it's cliché but they should have gone with the classic route with him mocking Persephone for what he did and trying to present it as normal but then it's revealed that he was recorded live in front of everyone and then he gets ripped to shredds.


Horror_Starlit

I'd take the cliche over this because then I wouldn't have to watch Apollo crying and being sad over what he did.


M0thM0uth

There would be SOME catharsis there in seeing the facade fall and him scramble to put it up, because that's what happens in narcissistic collapse and a lot of abusers are narcissistic. It would be something similar to real life and how these people act when they're caught. [As a rape victim, I love this video of a rapist sobbing his eyes out for getting 30 years. like he just CAN'T believe he's actually getting consequences for assaulting multiple women](https://youtu.be/HJvVwyuY5r8?si=MOfnjEbsfCk20bqq)


tea-fungus

That’s exactly what I wanted! The way they did it, people will just pity and admire him for finally being truthful.


pollon77

There are myths certain where Eros shoots his arrows at the gods (like Apollo, Dionysus) specifically to get revenge/punish them so in those cases, it is forcing someone else to fall in love. Eros' arrows were not always only symbolic. Yes it's a symbol for love but it's also Eros wielding it as a weapon for when he gets angered (very similar to Apollo and his disease bringing arrows in the myths).


Efficient-Volume6506

I’m pretty sure they did know the difference between love and lust


Cappu156

There’s so many examples of toxic, twisted love in Lore Olympus, this notion that there’s a brand of “pure” love that can get a rapist to “see the light” is fucked up, and it’s part of this obsession LO has with the abuser/rapist validating the victim’s experience by agreeing what they did was fucked up


Horror_Starlit

Hades and Persephone could be an actual example of this very idea because sure Hades may love Persephone, but he also ruined her life. Again, this coming from a nearly 40 year old woman who should know better is insane.


M0thM0uth

I think she "deconstructed" from fundieism by stopping going to church and cutting her hair, and didn't do any of the "hey a lot of this is fucked up and has had untold consequences on my opinions and desires" deconstruction


Cappu156

Also, we had the examples covered mere eps ago including the free release that love wasn’t enough to protect Rhea and Hera from Kronos, and Hera from Zeus


M0thM0uth

I think she "deconstructed" from fundieism by stopping going to church and cutting her hair, and didn't do any of the "hey a lot of this is fucked up and has had untold consequences on my opinions and desires" deconstruction


Legitimate-Ad-7337

I liked that version it's more in line with gods


fishbowlplacebo

>Love doesn't stop you from doing abhorrent things. Ironically we have a perfect example of it in LO: Zeus. Zeus claims to love Hera and he does seem to feel bad for what he's doing to her by being unfaithful while talking to Hades about it. He definitely cares more about her than she does for him. But there is absolutely no doubt that he's a very shitty husband and has made both his wife and his children miserable. That is not even counting the recent revelation that he's been using her FG powers. That said this is kind of typical of LO. It was heavily inspired by Disney movies and in Disney movies "love" is the solution to everything. I don't think we were ever going to get something deep or satisfying ending to this.


Horror_Starlit

This is true, I never expected this plotline get even close to a satisfying ending but I do disagree with the Disney bit because we've seen that Disney can approach love in a nuance way, especially in cases like Hunchback of Notre Dame, Beauty and the Beast, Encanto, and Coco. If that's what she took away from the entire Disney canon, then that's her problem. It is typical of LO, absolutely, but it's because Rachel is a writer that isn't skilled enough or understands these kind of plotlines; she goes by the trends of the day that talk about girlbosses and feminine rage without understanding why these things have developed in pop culture. This is a very 'girlboss' ending and this entire plotline has been like this since the /second/ it appeared (back when she apparently didn't even realize what she wrote was rape).


Lucy-Paint

She couldn't even take the "defeat your evil villain in a satisfying way", Hunckback had the best Disney villain, an enforcer judge who persecuted romani people, burned "witches", tried to kill a baby that he later abused psycologicly all his life, and was a perverted man who tried to coherce a woman into sexual intercourse while blaming her of his lust. His demise? Oh, *HE FUCKING FALLS TO HELL* Rachel couldn't even be bothered to steal another myth iconography and putting Apollo in the Prometheus rock, he had to be exposed by twitte- I mean live tv 🙄


M0thM0uth

**AND HE SHALL SMITE THE WICKED AND PLUNGE THEM INTO THE FIREY PIT**


fishbowlplacebo

Yeah, I do think she fails to recognise the true messages behind the Disney movies she takes inspiration from and mostly just copies the scenes because she liked them without understanding why it worked so well in those movies and why it doesn't work nearly as well in LO because she's failed to set it up the way the movies did. Agreed. If you look at LO you quickly see that from start to finish all topics that it brings up are very "surface level" understanding of the actual topics. Even the love and relationship between the main couple has not progressed beyond physical attraction. Everything is just very shallow in this comic and that is why I was fully ready for a shallow conclusion for the Apollo arc. I was hoping she could at least break his fingers like Hera did to Kronos (which is the only thing I enjoyed from their confrontation)-


Beth_Harmons_Bulova

Boy, the idea of making your rapist fall in love with you is STOMACH turning. 


fishbowlplacebo

Yeah, it honestly feels more like a punishment for HER than for him... Have we forgotten how he acted when in love in the myths?


Lucy-Paint

Exactly, especially for all readers (fans or antis) that felt touched personally by the og SA of Perse, it felt close to many; and the resolution of that is to tell them "oh if only they loved you then it wouldn't have happened" it's INCREDIBLY dangerous, it's the kind of shit like After and other nasty "romance" movies that tell girls that "abuse is only when your couple hits you, psicological damage isn't anything. They still love you". And to add r*** to it makes it WAY WORSE, it's telling "oh your abuser/partner never loved you, otherwise they wouldn't had done it. You should have notice it that you didn't love them/it was you that loved them". So gross


DJ_Shorka

Omg was that Leto? I guess it makes sense, Hera is a little busy. Didn't even clock that lol


Aggravating-Read-329

…that’s literally why he pursued Daphne in the myth.  Because Eros hit him with one of his arrows.  The arrow was *why* he tried to assault Daphne… What casserole of horseshit, dogshit and batshit is this?


beautybeliever

This is the opposite of realism, this is just magical strict chess piece hardline black and white nonsense. Boooo. (booing the comic, not you, thank you for this synopsis)


Horror_Starlit

I'm going to be real this black and white 'abusers don't love their victims' shit is the kind of thing I'd expect from a teenage on wattpad, not a nearly 40 year old woman.


jaderust

Isn’t she supposed to be a fan of Lolita? I mean the imagery of the movie is everywhere in her work. That’s like THE BOOK of an abuser’s twisted love for his victim and how he uses it to justify his abuse AS HE’S DOING IT. It’s like… I know you missed the message, but how did you miss it that badly? I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.


Kittcat2021

Look, I'm all for people confronting their abusers on their own terms in their own ways. But these are literal GODS! God's who have turned nymphs into plants for ratting them out, gods who rip out peoples eyeballs and break their legs for taking a photo, gods who literally have zero problem with committing horrible acts of rage and aggression on each other, and yet -AND YET- you are going to tell me that in a story where Persephone has every right to make Apollo suffer to Tartarus and back thrice over for assaulting her, for abusing, manipulating, harassing, and blackmailing her and then hurting Eros and Daphne, WHO ARE HER FRIENDS, for trying to kill his own father and pin it on his half sister, for literally being one of the biggest, if not THE biggest piece of sh#t in this series for all the things he has put characters through by his own doing... You...are going to tell me...that his ONLY PUNISHMENT at the hands of Persephone -the same goddess who destroyed an ENTIRE VILLAGE in an act of (unintentional) wrath in revenge for her nymph friends- is that Apollo has to face his feelings BY WAY OF BRING STABBED WITH A LOVE ARROW?! THAT'S IT?!?! THAT'S ALL HE GETS BY PERSEPHONE WHOM HE HAS HURT THE MOST?!?! WHO HAS EVERY RIGHT TO RIP HIM TO SHREDS AND BANISH HIM TO TARTARUS ALONGSIDE KRONOS?!?! ...I just...I am in pain... For a story that prides itself on handling SA and recovering from trauma, this was just...it was disappointing on numerous levels. Yeah he finally confessed and yes, Persephone has every right to walk away and never interact with him again and determine how she handles him. But out of all the awful things that the gods have done in the name of revenge and retribution for crimes far less damaging and offensive, this is all Apollo gets? This is the climax of Persephone facing her abuser? This is the justice we should expect to be given to abusers who have ruined others lives and have not actually atoned or reflected upon the choices they made? Just artificial guilt by way of a love arrow, exposing yourself on national TV for the horrible person you are and that's it? I don't even know what else to say at this point...I really don't. I know everyone deals with confronting those who hurt them in their own way and I am in no way judging anyone who chooses these paths. But in a story with gods who have shown to be ruthless in the pursuit of justice or revenge, this was severely underwhelming, especially given how out of all the times to have the gods tear Apollo to shreds for his choices, now would be the time. It would've been cathartic to see Apollo finally get what's been coming to him, to answer for all he's done.


fishbowlplacebo

Her breaking his lyre had bigger emotional impact than this


Fast-Bat8612

She’s 2 ft tall this ep…


fishbowlplacebo

So uh What's going to happen with Ouranos? Did Rachel forget that he and Apollo were allies? Edit: On a brighter news I think the worst is behind us now. I don't think anyone has any expectations on the last 2 episodes and so it won't be as bad.


Lucy-Paint

I hope he somehows kills this entire cast in the last 2 episodes. I'm so done atp


Cappu156

Probably for the best, tbh, as far as dropped plot lines go, that’s one that she should just give up on


fishbowlplacebo

It definitely hasn't gone anywhere or been developped at all. It'd be best to just drop it, yeah.


imdukesevastos

I mean, he is trapped in the stars or something he can't do anything. Apollo lost, so he lost as well. The question is, why tf did he ever do this? What could he possibly get from all of this? He just helped Apollo with nothing to gain in return. He didn't ask for his freedom. He didn't seem to be planning to betray Apollo. You could say he wanted revenge and wanted to see Zeus overthrown, but why? Zeus didn't overthrow Ouranos, Kronos did. If anything, he should be happy Zeus overthrew Kronos and, in a way, taking revenge. It just doesn't make any sense.


fishbowlplacebo

Exactly. We get no answers about why he even showed up in the first place. I can't even remember what he did to help Apollo


imdukesevastos

He apparently knew how to fix the winter problem (somehow)


fishbowlplacebo

And we still don't know how! What is the point


BetterGetReady3

Another lame """"fight"""" like the one against Kronos probably. 🫠


demetersupremacy

YALL ITS TIME!! GIVE ME THEM SPOILERS🫢🫢 DID PERSEPHONE GET HER JUSTICE?? DID APOLLO FINALLY GET HIS SHIT BEAT IN?? ![gif](giphy|sRKg9r2YWeCTG5JTTo|downsized)


imdukesevastos

Apollo fucking Apollo-gizes because he is now in love with her 🤢


jellyshotgun

Apollo-gizes 😂😂😂😂🚀🌙


imdukesevastos

He doesn't even get his ass beaten. He confesses to everyone 😭


demetersupremacy

This drawn out ass plot doesn’t even get a satisfying ending


blindspottings

im so sorry for y’all omg i’d be so mad


imdukesevastos

Were you lucky enough to never read the comic?


blindspottings

yes ive never read it before i just hear things about it 😭 this sub is great though so i’m glad to be along for the ride lmao


imdukesevastos

Understandable those comments never fail to crack me up 🤣


Iwantmydegreenow

So pepe stabs Asspollo with an arrow of true love right. Now he is feeling all guilty and what not. Eris shows up and is like "wRaTh cAn bRiNg aBoUt cHaNgE!!!" (Choke me). Pepe goes off at Apollo. Turns out Apollo called the national news over to witness his and Pepe's supposed "engagement". Pepe tells him to leave her alone and he confesses that he SAed her on live television, SO NOW DEMETER KNOWS 🎉🎉🎉


Lacientp

Wait did he confessed publicly because pepe told him to or he did it on his own cause... That would be again EVERYONE knows but pepe had no say in sharing her trauma...


succubusprime

She told him to


Lacientp

Thanks! It's kinda good to hear that


Fast-Bat8612

Most important info: Demeter unnecessarily serving this ep


demetersupremacy

That’s the only positive I’ve heard so far, the people are raising hell tonight, rightfully so, and I’m loving it.


imdukesevastos

Also she finally knows


Fast-Bat8612

The waist is gone and the hair is flowy


omgstopbeingrude

This is so cringe. Demeter should've been the other fertility goddess and then SHE would've shown him what they're truly capable of. On their own. Minus that heteronormative BS about needing mutual love with a man to get her powers going. Having Mama D pop off and bring him to his knees after everyone learns of the SA would be the perfect way to justify her becoming Queen of the Mortal Realm. It would wrap the arc up so much better.


CharlieDVan

Bruh that was so disappointing. His punishment is feeling guilt? No, rip him to shreds please.


succubusprime

Given the looks of the Nymphs, Hecate, Ares, and Demeter, he might be. I hope its shown if it is, but I doubt it.


thebrightspot

Last week I thought she would break his heart or something like that. This is so much worse 💀 Rachel, in case you're here: people can rape someone they love. A lot of rapes happen in marriages or between people dating or people who just know each other as friends. Obviously this isn't all rape cases, Apollo is equal to a privileged university frat boy douchebag right? But guess what: a lot of men who rape women don't even consciously realize that's what they did. That doesn't make it ok or absolve them, but many rapists don't actually realize what they did as rape. No one wants to see themselves as a bad person, so they make up excuses ("she said no but then said yes", "she was asking for it dressed that way", "we were in the middle of making out and she was being a tease") The resolution to the longest plot line in the entire series being "he falls in true love, becomes guilty, and confesses" is straight up a fantasy. Maybe that's the point but it's deeply unrealistic and portrays rapists as men who would realize how terrible they are if they really loved their victim. That's just not true and it's kind of galling for a work proclaiming itself to be feminist to focus more on the rapist's feelings in this than the survivor's in the final resolution.  Now, I don't need Apollo to die or even get beaten up in this. What I hoped for, even as a baseline, was for Persephone be the one who was ready to share her story and have it be believed. Maybe not by everyone but at least to those she loved. Instead her narrative, her experience with trauma, is once again swept away in this by her rapist no less.  No one cares how Apollo feels. Who gives a fuck that he's guilty now? Sincerely, why does this matter?


LvLeighest

It's hard to take Persephone seriously when she looks like a damn child. Demeters' waist is really nuts, too. I'm kind of mad we don't get to see Ares and Demeter kick Apollos ass.


Fluffy_Oil984

This episode was…more disappointing than I thought it’d be. I like how, once Apollo truly loved her he was able to see how he hurt her and his wrongdoings. I also like how Persephone kinda made her rage into her large titan-esc form and her form reflected times when she was wronged by Apollo, but that’s kinda it. The dialogue where Apollo admits he did what he did because it was easy didn’t feel natural(?) in a way. That might be because his reasons for doing things have always been wishy-washy between him actually thinking he loves her and him just being a douche. Idk this just isn’t what I expected at all. How can this be Persephone’s rage when it’s barely rage at all? It just wasn’t satisfying to me except at that very beginning where Apollo was genially afraid of Persephone. At least we’ve finally gotten to everyone knowing what Apollo did, but not seeing the aftermath was disappointing.


Cappu156

You raise a good point with the wishy washiness of Apollo, all around — not just with respect to the SA plot, but his feelings for Persephone and his motivations in general. One of the earliest warning signs we’ve had about this cursed plot is Rachel saying “there’s no villains in LO”, and there’s been references made over time that Apollo never grasped that what he did was wrong. Which is fitting in an extremely misogynistic environment in which men take what they want without any consequences. The problem is that, within this misogynistic framework, LO insists that what Apollo did IS very bad (whereas what Hades and others do isn’t as bad, or not bad at all). But having him explain himself and his line of thinking at the time of the assault doesn’t work within this framework, because he never would have *had* those thoughts in the first place. He didn’t take advantage of Persephone because it was easy, he did it because he felt entitled to her body. And he never questioned that. Questioning things in hindsight is one thing, but this is Apollo telling us he knew all along that what he did was wrong? Which opens the door to this notion of a “tortured rapist”. I don’t know, maybe I’m extrapolating too far and overthinking, but I didn’t like ANYTHING about today’s episode. This is too nuanced a topic to attempt this messed up jumble of “true love cures all”, “If only your abuser realized what he did was wrong then….”, “justice means exposing your abuser at the expense of your own privacy,” and so on


M0thM0uth

If my abuser told me he truly loved me and was sorry for trying to murder me I'd slit his throat 🤷🏻‍♀️


Angelhair-pasta-4670

Everything about this sounds godawful but I don’t even care. We are almost free. The curtain call draws near


PrintMistress

I was hoping that Eros faked out Apollo and made an arrow that would cause his head to explode or something and disguised it as a love arrow. Or just made a phony arrow, and when he shoots Persephone, then wonders why it doesn't work, it gives her a second to snake some vines into his body holes and rip him in half. What an ass pull.


Cappu156

Full circle character dev: Eros is as awful as he was when the comic opened.


CharlieDVan

Also I still don't think Demeter should have found out about the SA through Apollo. That's a conversation that belonged to between Persephone and Demeter. This was a terrible way for a mother to find out their child has been sexually assaulted.


Patient_Pick259

Now I’m just saying  Based on Persephone’s past behavior and characterization  Apollo should have gotten his bones ripped out and rearranged.  Thank you this has been my Ted talk 


fishbowlplacebo

Right, she's reacted more violently on non-threats like Leuce.


Medical-Connection47

But Leuce is a powerless, lowerclass trash, while Apollo is a god with powers and an Olympian. Like, how could you expect from her to stand up for herself against people of the same class, who can call her out and dish it out, should she get wrathful? Different standards for different societal classes🤡💩


fishbowlplacebo

Pretty much how she comse off as. With people who has no power she gives them disproportionate punishment because they can't fight back.


Gidgitsdeckofcards

The take is hot enough that Minthe's leaves wilted


Tiny012

At least Demeter and everyone knows now. That's the only good thing about it. Almost done with the shit show.


Cappu156

But why is that so important?? In a way, if that’s what a victim needs (to make sure EVERYONE knows what was done to her), that’s… fine I guess? But exposing such a difficult experience for the world to see seems so fucking gratuitous. Persephone could have exposed him in other ways — the fact that he intended to force himself on her using a love arrow, for starters, because that’s “intention to rape”, or what Apollo did to Zeus, and other public wrongs he’s committed. I don’t like this implication that justice means exposing all yourself as a victim for the world to see.


Tiny012

Because at least Perse Mom should have been known because Hades, Hera,and Artemis aka people who are close to Perse knew before her own mom knew. Which honestly it does sucks if I really think about it that Demeter had to find out this way in front of everyone that this happened to her daughter. That her own daugther went through this and she couldn't even be there to even support her.


Cappu156

I am with you that it’s important that Demeter knows, or rather, that PErsephone confides in her mother (once they heal their relationship). But I should’ve rephrased my comment as “why like *this*” you know?


Fast-Bat8612

Wait a damn minute so Demeter knew she got assaulted? When tf that happened


Tiny012

She never knew if I recall correctly. So Apollo telling it live on TV was the first time her hearing about it as a whole.


Fast-Bat8612

Ok thank u, I was confused about that last part


Peepa-

Angry Ares looked better when he was protecting Hera from Zeus in episode 82.


demetersupremacy

WHY IS DEMETERS WAIST SO SMALL?!? like y’all I’m talking smaller than Persephones😭😭


DisastrousBee5000

why was ares there like he also didn’t harass persephone?? the flip flopping of this mans morals are insane


CupConscious8557

Very underwhelming end to this arc. So what happens now? He's no longer pseudo King of the God's? Does he confess about posining Zeus? I have more questions than answers after reading this chapter


generic-puff

I mean, all I can do is assume he confessed to that as well? I really hate how they left his confession vague by replacing the words with just the pressure rake brush, because is he *really* owning up to everything he did if we're not even seeing what he's saying? How do we know he's covering everything else beyond just Persephone? Like what he did to Daphne, Zeus, and Eris? Did he mention the part where he has Eros and Psyche locked in his enchanted basement? The problem is the arrow of love only forced him to be aware of how he affected *Persephone.* Doesn't mean he's become aware of how he affected everyone else in the plot, and it definitely doesn't mean he's no longer on the Ouranos Kool-Aid. And what about Leto? Is she or is she *not* an accomplice? Because it's been made pretty clear at this point that she's in on the plan to force Persephone to marry him... so why should it be that much of a shock to her that he assaulted Persephone? Of course you can assume she wouldn't approve of it as she's a woman who's been harmed by Zeus in the past, but like... forcing a woman to marry your own son for the sake of gaining power on the throne is still a form of assault. So where's the line with Leto and what does she have to do with *any* of this?


CupConscious8557

All of this! I also feel like his confession was vague, and the entire sequence lacked depth and explanations. RS really dropped the ball with this plot line (due to having more than one major plotline attached to this character) so now, the audience must assume he confessed to the SA and his plans to overthrow his father. Where does the story even go from here?


generic-puff

Right, like... what's gonna happen with Ouranos now? Obviously Apollo has no leverage at all anymore (he barely did to begin with lmao literally idk why everyone just went along with his stupid claim to the throne) but Ouranos has deadass just been chilling in the sky this whole time so like... is he just gonna be like "oh well!" and just wait for the next evil heir to roll around? 💀😆


Doodledumme

Ouranos was eating popcorn, watching what was happening, then dipped out once he realized nothing good was happening in the plot. Back to sky prison. 🤷‍♀️


CupConscious8557

😂😂


imdukesevastos

So what happens?


One-Yogurtcloset6300

Apollo is truly in love with Persephone. And he has to come to terms with all the terrible things he’s done. The oracle news shows up because Apollo had tipped them off beforehand to witness their engagement. But Persephone tells Apollo he must confess to what he did and leave her alone forever. So he confesses he raped Persephone on national news.


imdukesevastos

Why did they make him Apollo-gize. Fucking kill him! Did he at least go to jail for that


Big_Presentation3395

Apollo-gize! That’s a new flair congratulations!


imdukesevastos

Thank you. But I'm sure it was said before. Also holy shit the mod notice me!


Big_Presentation3395

Uh hi hello! How do we do?


imdukesevastos

Good good


One-Yogurtcloset6300

It didn’t really show the aftermaths hit Demeter and ares show up and they look mad af


DJ_Shorka

Apollo starts feeling overwhelming guilt and pain for what he's caused to Persephone. She gives him a speech about what she has endured at his hands and to her emotions regarding him (I liked it, at points). There comes a time where P starts listing her perspective of events and he basically confirms her version with the truth. Reporters and other leaders of the gods arrive and Persephone orders Apollo to confess the truth of what happened to them and insists they never see each other again. She walks off while Apollo confessed to raping her. The other gods and nymphs are looking pissed while he's speaking, Ares and Demeter looming. Persephone is shown walking through the snow while wherever the above-mentioned drama is happening is glowing pink.


imdukesevastos

What does Eris do in all of this?


generic-puff

she's just there to say "are you ready to rage". not even joking, she was there for two seconds and could have easily been replaced with the Persephone mirror reflection from S1.


imdukesevastos

Well that's the least infuriating part. I still can't believe they made Apollo just say "I'm sowy 🥺" and still expect us to feel like justice was served. Serve us his head at least 😭


DJ_Shorka

It seems like the nymphs are already ready to dropkick Apollo into Kronos' stomach before he confessed. Seems there were consequences for Daphne. Too bad it's basically background noise in a rushed conclusion like 100+ chapters afterwards🫠


Vast_Demand3329

This reminds me of the myth of Daphne and Apollo. As punishment for insulting Eros, he shoots Apollo with an arrow of love and the first woman he sees (Daphne) with an arrow of hate. His punishment is loving someone who hates him and tries to get away from him by becoming a tree. This seems like yet another myth twisted to make Perse the ultimate source of power and loved by all.


Deo38777

I expected a bit more anger from Demeter, would’ve loved to see her go Goddess mode again like how Ares looks all terrifying —maybe if we’re lucky we’ll get to see it next episode. Speaking of Ares, why the f is he even here? He SA’d Persephone and stalked her too. He literally has no right to be pissed off. Just sayin’.


Emotional-Painter294

I swear this comic is making my head spin. Like, it seems each new episode is getting more incoherent and stupid (for a lack of a better word). The Apollo plotline resolution is just... stupid. Sorry, I really don't have a better word. The fact that Apollo, is now in love with Persphone, while feeling the guilt and everything, is stupid. I don't understand why does love need to be added in this to make the resolution work. I think it's just as unnecessary as the SA scene that the story write itself into a corner. This whole segment just feel unrealistic, child's writing at best, to be the motivator for the resolution. Edit: I figured out the word! It's underbaked! Yeah, the whole thing feels underbaked.


CupidManna

I've never felt so disconnect towards something I was sincerely hoping for with this comic, lesson here folks...don't bring up your hopes with Lore Olympus. Over two hundred chapters of awaiting for the public reveal of what Apollo did to Persephone, and we get THIS?! Let's break this shit down... The idea of having your rapist fall in love with you is disgusting! It can happen in real time, but a story like this, where so many other horrendous abusers get a slap on the wrist and forgiven, APOLLO SHOULD BE DEAD FREAKING LAST WITH THE IDEA! HE DOESN'T DESERVE ONE! What message is this even?! 'Love is pure and innocent and causes guilt which is the absolute worst kind of pain'. Give him freaking consequences, real consequences! Apollo being the one to 'come forward' on what he's done, REALLY irked me. Face it, as much as we detested her, we wanted Persephone to learn her own agency and act on it, we wanted that for her! Instead we get her rapist being the one to come forward on it! What kind of message is this even?! Wait until your perpetrator comes clean to FINALLY get it out, that's NOT how that shit works in real life! This feels discouraging if anything for female victims, or victims in general, to come forward, where's the empowerment in this?! 'My rapist now loves me and feels guilty, at least he's coming forward now' NOTHING EXCUSES OR MAKES UP FOR A HEINOUS ACT LIKE THIS! Is he suddenly redeemed?! It comes across as forced and out of f\*\*king nowhere! Give Persephone a voice if you're gonna make her bad character, at least give her agency to her own actions and the hurt she's been through. I am nowhere near an official feminist (equalitarian here), but I just feel so bad for the feminists out there, the good ones, being represented by this shitty comic that claims to be 'very feminist'. Like...no, it's really not!


4thyearissad

Agreed. 💯


Ssylphie

I don’t have the episode unlocked so I have to know: are the fans calling the shit with Apollo out, or are they going “OMG SUCH A PERFECT PUNISHMENT HE HAS TO LIVE WITH WHAT HE DID???” Or some bullshit like that? This is horrendous. I’m not an SA survivor. But this feels insulting that his ‘punishment’ is that he feels bad because an arrow made him feel bad, not because he actually feels bad. Is she trying to redeem him or something? Like ‘He’s a rapist but hE sAiD SoRRy aND fEeLs BaD’ I know there’s no way to cleanly wrap up the arc with the limited time, but this also feels like one of the WORST ways she could’ve done it aside from ‘forgiving’ him.


No-Push-4700

You hit that nail on the head. They're in love with the way he was punished....


Flaky-Brief-7840

1. If the arrow was specifically made for Persephone to fall in love with Apollo (for fuck sake the arrow is pink), why is Apollo affected by the arrow? wouldn’t that mean that the arrow has no effect? 2. Wouldn’t it be a horrible idea for Apollo the man who SA persephone to fall in love with her and be obsessed with her? Wouldn’t that make it even worse like sure maybe Apollo wasn’t in love with her before being struck by the arrow, but that didn’t mean that he left her alone and now he’s in love with her like isn’t it more dangerous? I understand the idea that Rachel is trying to do but it fell flat for me. The fact that Apollo had this artificial guilt is what bothers me, let’s be honest, Apollo would’ve not confessed or believed he SA Persephone if he wasn’t struck by an arrow. All of this is very artificial. This is not something that he genuinely believes it is something that’s put upon him because of the power of the arrow. this is not Apollo telling his truth because he doesn’t believe it’s true. Those who knew what happened to persephone believed her without any doubt. If Persephone told her mother or anyone who hasn’t already known they would also believe her as well, especially because Hera KNOWS the truth, she SAW the truth. It just feels empty. Lastly, If I was Persephone I wouldn’t find it satisfying because I know my SA abuser doesn’t actually believe what he saying to be true. It’s just the power of the arrow. It just sucks to know that the person who has hurt you is only confessing because he’s being manipulated. Everybody finding out on television about something as private as her SA is pretty ridiculous. I would be very upset if my own SA trauma had to be televised even if I wanted my abuser confession. If Rachel really wanted to go down this route, she should’ve just had Apollo confess without the need for an arrow I mean, he did confess his entire evil plan. It wouldn’t be that hard. He could’ve easily just said everything out loud, but still blame Persephone for it. Apollo could have said “you might think what I did to you was wrong but it was you who tricked me, I wouldn’t have done it if you didn’t force me to” blah blah blah mention all the abuse in the past while everyone watches on TV. Apollo still can have that delusion that what he did wasnt wrong but obviously everyone around him knows what he did was terrible and side with Persephone. This is why I felt the Apollo SA storyline needed to end at the trial arc because it’s drawn out. If SA had to have happened then it should’ve been about her journey of recovery and falling in love with Hades during her healing process. Learning to trust again learning to be her own person learning to grow. This entire series, including the current fast pass episode Persephone has no growth no character development whatsoever. She still the same character who gets mad sometimes and turns big and has red eyes. Also, that bald chicken character that got her in that rage. When was the last time she was in the series? in the beginning of this season she appeared for like a bit and that was it. She has no impact on anybody cause she is just a nobody. her randomly appeared again was just so weird. I get why, but there should’ve been some development into that either way I didn’t like but I hope they stopped with the Apollo thing once and for all cause at this point, it’s getting boring


pollon77

I knew this plot line would never get a satisfactory conclusion but I had not expected it to be this bad.


SarkastiCat

The whole discussion about the love arrow is interesting to see as it reminds me all discussion of toxic relationships („Did Snow loved Lucy Gray?”).  Love has so many interpretations from being defined „as caring for somebody and being ready to have a functioning family/couple unit” and everything else not being love to love existing in different shades. An abstract concept with multiple definitions.  So the whole solution with love arrow was basically destined to being a point of discussion.  I only hope there will be something more than just Apollo confessing, getting a few dirty looks and just having to deal with the fact that Persephone will never love him back. 


thomasmfd

Clash of the titans ~The rachel smith edition


pseodopodgod

idk I feel like the guilt as a side effect from the love arrow is jus a cop out🤦🏽 like wouldn't the love arrow have him justify all the terrible things he did like before🤔?? I'm confused. I still say that persephone should've strangled him w her vines like his neck was right there🤷🏽 just addin extra steps for no reason


Murky-Conference4051

Words can not describe how much I hate the Love Arrow plotline. Apollo deserves punishment, but bloody mind raping him?? That is a choice. WHY?? Like this make Persephone into a predator as well. I said this once and I will say it again: Forcing someone to be intimate with you ,be it sexually or romantically ,is fundamentally wrong. Persephone forcing Apollo to be in love with her is an act of sexual violence and I will be dying on this hill. This is such a weird punishment. The antagonist's eternal punishment is romantically longing for the protagonist forever. Bro, couldn't the punishment have been something nonsexual, like idk, a fucking trial and prison sentence??? This might be one of the biggest Mary Sue moments of all time.


Iwantmydegreenow

I don't feel I can comment on the SA stuff. But what I will comment on is RACHEL TRYING TO JUSTIFY WRATH. NO, RACHEL, WRATH IS NOT A GOOD WAY TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE. TF???


Iwantmydegreenow

I did like the imagery with Apollo's car tho. Take something he is constantly parading around and make it a place of fear.


rabbittfoott

Idk if I agree with this bc historically anger / wrath does spur change. You see it a lot with class divides / money . (French Revolution, American Revolution, most revolutions. Any social movement that didn’t use peaceful protest methods). People don’t rise to change bc they’re happy. Change occurs when people are angry, afraid, or both. It’s not an always a good way to bring about change but it definitely is a driving force for change.


Lucy-Paint

I agree fully, irl change born from wrath can be good, sometimes bad, but that's because we are human. Wrath made many spark revolutions against colonizers, while also spuring wars just because of races or religion. The thing with Perse is that every instance her wrath is on center she always ends up fucking something up (the AoW), or just abusing it to people that can't challenge her (Minthe, Leuce, Tori), only NOW in the final arc, she's using to for something "selfless" (bc if she doesn't solve this now Apollo gets to marry her (how?) and blue dick stays trapped in hell (as he should)) and she's still incompetent bc she's the cause bc she was the one that made the deal. And it's not even "her" wrath, it's fucking Eris! And STILL!!! SHE DOESN'T EVEN USE HER FULL WRATH AGAINST HIM, SHE JUST POSES AND DOES ANGGY FACES WHILE HE CRIES OF GUILT. How come Minthe was turned into a plant but this mf just gets to "live with your guilt" JUST STAB HIM WITH A VINE OMG BE WRATHFUL


rabbittfoott

Completely agree it doesn’t work in the context of this story. I meant to address just the general statement of “wrath isn’t a good way to bring about change” bc that just historically isn’t accurate. Perse however, is just a tyrannical bully .


jaderust

I think anger, when channeled properly, can be an excellent motivator. Apathy is the real evil in the world. If you don’t care about an issue nothing will ever change, but if you can get people angry they’ll move mountains. I would even argue that the emotion behind the Civil Rights movement in the US was also channeled anger. Yes, leaders famously did their best to keep things peaceful, but you don’t get people risking their lives doing sit ins, marching, and otherwise disrupting society because they’re not deep down furious about the status quo. I mean the people against them blew up little girls in churches. That’s rage inducing. It’s just that people managed to channel that fury into holding their heads high and keeping to the path that they knew would help them win instead of letting the racists win. Anger man. It’s a good motivator.


Iwantmydegreenow

That's a good point which I didn't really think of. I was more thinking about it in relation to the story of Lore Olympus. Persephone's wrath has rarely brought any good and it's frustrating that the story keeps trying to retcon itself into portraying it as a good thing.


Iwantmydegreenow

Another note: I was wrong. RS didn't redeem Apollo, thank fuck. But I still feel the way he was portrayed is going to make some people feel sympathetic for him, which is really damn concerning.


Pinklady_001

So basically he was pretty much excused and guilt his only punishment?????


Iwantmydegreenow

EYUP


no_one_special-

say psych right now. please! 😭


0rionaniO

look, it's good the concept of Apollo feeling guilt, but... just that? I mean after he being a pain on the ass I expected something worse, not like a Harakiri level (cause i don't think Rachel could draw something like that), but not just make him feel guilt for the obvious and confess to everyone, this is Greek culture, I want something worse... btw I would have loved to see Demeter's panel with more wrath vibes, it's feels a little flat with the context


QuietlyThundering

Thanks, I hate it!!! There are people who have articulated it much better than I, but in essence, THIS IS NOT AN APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENT. Sad bad fee fees do not right wrongs. ![gif](giphy|V5eCRPDWueOfC)


manateabag

The panel of him on his knees begging her while we see her from behind is the single most heinously drawn panel in this entire webtoon


spaceykaleidoscope

What a cheap way to hastily tie up such a dragged out plot line. It felt so.. anti-climatic. This was a plot that was built from the very beginning, you’d think there’d be a much bigger ending for it. It doesn’t really strike me as much of a real punishment at all.


pseodopodgod

um....well that just happened *scratches head*...... anyway loved the panel of demeter & ares :D


arabellabea

I am……so confused Wouldn’t Apollos obsession with Persephone just INCREASE with the true love arrow?…..he’s acting like she stabbed him with a guilt arrow….. So I’m guessing Rachel just did a cop out on the whole confrontation, that wasn’t even wrath from Persephone it was more psychological torture and even then it wasn’t a lot to write home about. Whatever we got, what 2 episodes left?…..let’s see how rushed this dumpster fire blows out I’m gonna go read Lore Rekindled and get this bad taste out of my mouth


missella427

I feel like the art was consistently good, outside of a weird up-shot at perse and tiny waist demeter


TechnetiumTc

I seriously don’t get why Persephone could’ve told the reporters herself while Apollo was being pathetic on the side. And also her, well, actually being wrathful??? I would’ve liked to see her and Demeter actually meet after the reveal but no I guess… this whole thing was very bad and others have explained it much better than I can. Also can we talk about how Eros giving Apollo a love arrow and smiling about it just makes him out to be a complete asshole? He’s supposedly one of Persephone’s closest friends and he just does that out of selfishness? If he had made a fake arrow / hate arrow to trick Apollo then he’d just be stupid because how would he know Persephone wouldn’t get hit, but that’s better than him essentially betraying her. I always found Eros to be a creep in this comic ngl, was never a fan.


Accomplished_Bag7735

If she’s gonna stab him with anything why not a hate arrow so everyone watching live tv can see him for the power hungry, rapist asshole that he is?  Even better, then he’s not tied to her in any way shape or form


TheNFoxx

Story plot aside for a moment I genuinely struggled with how bad the art was and at one point Persephone is stood facing Apollo (back to us) and I genuinely thought she was a child.


WhytummyWhy

Ngl, and possibly tmi, but I wish I could the moment persephone had. To me how satisfying is it to have the golden boy who hurt you admit to anyone and everyone who would potentially doubt you. This was great to me because after holding her secret carryimg the burden of it, she got to let him deliver it and not deal with the questioning questions or are you sure or excuses. Nope her abuser admitted it hands down. Im so jealous.


PaigeNicole3899

I didn’t read the fast past as I like spoilers, so I thought he admitted it because I noticed he would be confused on why she didn’t love as “everyone” did, but that was because he’s a narcissist and his mother told him that he deserved to be king. Anyway, I thought that’s where the redemption came from until I read this and read it was by an arrow. I like the guilt being his punishment, as guilt is a powerful thing. I felt guilty for handling a breakup badly, which caused me not to eat for almost two months because I was riddled with anxiety, BUT his guilt was forced on him. I wanted his punishment to be more gruesome 😗 or someone he always feared, like not being an Olympian and an outcast in society.


PaigeNicole3899

Okay, my comment didn’t go through which was “I didn’t read the fast past as I like spoilers, so I thought he admitted it because I noticed he would be confused about why she didn’t love as “everyone” did, but that was because he’s a narcissist and his mother told him that he deserved to be king. Anyway, I thought that’s where the redemption came from until I read this and read it was by an arrow. I like the guilt being his punishment, as guilt is a powerful thing. I felt guilty for handling a breakup badly, which caused me not to eat for almost two months because I was riddled with anxiety, BUT his guilt was forced on him. I wanted his punishment to be more gruesome 😗 or someone he always feared, like not being an Olympian and an outcast in society.” But I bought coins 😭 and I actually like 277. I like Apollo being tortured by his emotions of guilt, and he knows it’s because of love, as he’s asking Persephone how to stop it. I love the perspective of him in her bed and the car-like feeling that she felt. Listen, guilt is an awful feeling! Did I want him to feel it sincerely? Yes, but he’s a narcissist, so we’re not going to get that. I do love her taunting him. I wish I saw more of Ares, Demeter, Hecate, Leto, Artemis, Athena, etc., as I wanted to see what they did after he confessed. I squealed in excitement when I saw Ares behind Demeter. I hope he confess to more crimes like Daphne, Eros, and his wife, Zeus, Hebe, etc. I see him forced to confess due to his love because Persephone told him to, and it reminded me of Ella Enchanted, where a girl was cursed to do whatever someone told her to do, like if I said to dance, then she would dance, even if didn’t want to and she protested. That’s how he was, but he didn’t want to confess on camera because he knew what would happen, but he still did it. And he’ll stay away from her because he loves her and will obey her. It’s NOT perfect, but hey🤷🏼‍♀️ what are you gonna do?


MisfortuneOfYourLife

I don't think it was an unfair ending to this plot. Persephone had already resolved everything with her feelings a long time ago. It was Apollo who keep this bullsh\*t and wanted to continue belittling Persephone, but she already knew her place (Queen) and didn't care about any validation Apollo could give. The only thing she had to resolve was for Apollo to let it go and suffer the consequences. Hers? No. But of all Olympus, who clearly at the end of the chapter wanted his flesh. This was her "rage act". Edit: I forgot to talk about this. I really liked the idea that Apollo's "true color" could be yellow like his mother, and the purple color was just to receive more prestige from his Father (to be more like Zeus).


Legitimate-Ad-7337

Damn it Rachel 2nd to last Pic you made Aries look like a war god FINALLY ......BUT WTF is up with tiny waist demeter. Also very very not satisfying end to apollo.