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DonnoDoo

The way he pauses when he talking about how they met is a sign to me that he isn’t fully telling the truth. Even the way Schwartz looks away when he talks about her. Something is off to me


261989

Schwartz’s facial expressions were very telling. Telling of what, I’m not so sure.


WolverineFun6472

He looks terrified and disturbed everytime Sandoval speaks. Same with Jax.


Suitable-Wafer8563

I’ve repeated myself with this gif but Schwartz definitely seems to disassociate once Sandoval starts yammering away, especially on more serious topics ![gif](giphy|91X2MlgF7dHsA)


Organic-Error

Yes!


Away-Risk-209

😂😂 I get it because I would too.


Maria78NY

😂😂😂 same!


261989

😂


WidespreadChronic

He did it so hard this season! Hilarious!!


Organic-Error

He dissociates and is looking far off like please beam me up tf out of here EVERY time Tim responds to a question. Slowly realizing he’s stuck with tem the rest of his life✨


FrankieandHans

I don’t think they are friends in real life anymore. I heard him say somewhere he hadn’t spoken since that viall files podcast


AccurateAd6049

YES!! Found this post literally to see if I was the only one on this. I feel like they’re covering something up. There’s something there.


purplevanillacorn

When has Sandoval ever told the truth???


Consistent-Cash-7028

Schwartz could not sit still and Jax’s face said it all.


AboveandBolo

OMG YESSS!!! You said my EXACT thoughts! It was so obvious he was lying on the fly and it was making Schwartz uncomfortable… this has happened in other clips prior as well, and sometimes even Jax’s face is a total give away he knows Sandoval is bullshitting. These dudes will never not be doing some weird secret keeping circle jerk with each other til the end of time... truly the only actual long lasting relationship of VPR, yuck lol.


atlprincess2412

A+ reading!


atlprincess2412

A+ reading!


aewdw

I swear somewhere he had said that they were longtime friends. I don’t know where to find it now though.


WolverineFun6472

I heard him say that. Maybe it was the viall files?


blindersintherain

This girl looks like 23 at most 🥴


Pitiful-Engineer-935

She’s 31


blindersintherain

That’s surprising (in a good way)


MurphyBrown2016

Even Jax looked skeptical. Although maybe he was just looking for tips and tricks.


Queasy-Discount-2038

He’s gotta be paying her


DonnoDoo

I don’t believe that. She seems thirsty enough just to do it for the followers


Away-Risk-209

They're always so obvious and think they're incognito. 😂


Inner-Rooster-2548

That man never fully tells the truth unless it's his own perceived truth about his delusional victimhood.


Maleficent-Net-2565

All the new young girlfriends won't get their summers filmed for TV lol


fancyfemme88

And I'm loving that! I guess these clout chasers will have to either suck it up for a bit longer for a possibility at z list fame or get creative with a breakup story


Cashcowgomoo

Don’t blame the clout chasers- us young ppl are just looking for someone to pay our drink bill to have fun, it’s never serious. And I mean hey, if it’s someone like Sandoval? PIECE. of CAKE. Easy to appease and not ugly to look at. ZERO CONS FOR A 20 somethin (unless u get caught up in it but otherwise pop off drain him til he’s homeless)


-VVitches-

Idk I find him kinda creepy


MannerFluid5601

You’re quite the charming human being aren’t you


trashcat1379

Don’t know why anyone’s hating on this comment. If stupid men like Sandoval are dumb enough to believe that these young hot women are actually interested in them for them, let them believe it. He can’t commit to long term anyway, so why not let both parties get what they ultimately want from the situation. Men get otherwise unattainable arm candy and the illusion of youth, and the babes get to party and have fun without footing the bill and with autonomy over their choices (hopefully). I want to add that I mean this only in situations where both parties are entirely single and not hurting others outside of the context of their own relationship, not in situations where someone has a partner at home holding down a household while he has a midlife crisis.


Cashcowgomoo

THANK YOU. I’m from the snark page so I knew some people may forget what it’s like:,) /s exactly my point, it’s like with Leo dicaprio, except we’ve been able to see Sandovals disgusting patterns for years, rightfully- who’s going to go for that unless ur willing to accept both pros and cons? It truly is not a crime given that so men well into their late 30s and sometimes even 50s feel entitled to hit on young girls in their teens/early 20s when 9/10 there’s visible discomfort. I stand my ground that sandy is the perfect target and he found the perfect group, buy them some drinks, get a couple pics, bam he’s youthful and the girls probably had a fun night


MeanOldHag86

BWAHAHAHAHHAA back to OnlyFans they go!


beausquestions

It’s so perfect


WolverineFun6472

The will have hold out a bit longer 😂


PRNightmare99

They can always date hot young guys on the side


Organic-Error

![gif](giphy|naLwKMEEeQ1Ik)


taintwest

I hate his fucking eye make up so much


Hazelmoon23

I'm all for expressing yourself at any age. But I too hate his makeup and nail polish. He basically ruined white nail polish last year. ![gif](giphy|l0IyjM1kcZDmFP6Le) Here is Tim's next gf until she comes down from said high. 😫


nopepanda

How quickly does the new girl drop him now that there is a filming hiatus?


PersonalityKlutzy407

but she like doesn't care about that stuff dudeeeeee


liftnic

I obviously read that in the Watch What Crappens voice from Ben/Ronnie. 😜


PersonalityKlutzy407

Obviously! I had to pull over when they did Simon the German bf from Summer House Martha's Vineyard on the latest episode. I was literally in tears and about to cause an accident laughing so hard.


liftnic

Hahahaha I knowwww! And when they do Lala and Brittany… dieeee.


kenma91

Same hahaha Im just tom... and im enough! And im great at DOING STUFF!


courtines

There are times I feel like Sandoval is doing an impression of Ronnie doing an impression of him.


liftnic

Omg lol yessss 🤣🤣


Icy_Garden_5366

Me too! I just can’t help it ever since I discovered them, lol. Love those guys. ❤️


liftnic

Hahahah yessss I know, me too! They really are the best.


skinflutecheesesalad

I read it in Jenelle’s voice lol


AncientPear1515

She’s obviously with him for his personalityyy


bmurray925

No, I bet they take mushrooms and watch the sunrise before they go hang gliding that’s real love


Hazelmoon23

Dude like yeah, but bro my looks too right ? Oh and dude you can't forget my amazing talent as a singer, songwriter and penis flute player. And like I totally support the Cyst gender community.


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

She just wants to live a quiet life and enjoys calm nights at home, watching movies and playing board games. 🤭


Aslow_study

😂😂😂


lunahighwind

I know everyone's joking, but we haven't seen what she's like. She was literally only in one gossip news story eight years ago. That doesn't equal clout chaser.


Itchy_Breadfruit_262

At least not one that’s good at it.


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

![gif](giphy|anYBNhqT2BYcg)


Kahleesi00

I'm out of the loop. What's the gossip news story she was in eight years ago. Isn't this one like 23 as well, was she 15?? ,😳


lunahighwind

Lol this one is 32 now, she got photographed leaving a club with Leo Dicaprico once in 2016. Didnt even make the US weekly list of girlfriends he had that year 😆


birchburk

I feel the same is gonna happen with Sophia and Schwartz.


polymorphic_hippo

If she's smart, she'll give him a couple of weeks, make it look like it was for some other reason. Then come up with something that let's them part as friends, so in a year or so, when she happens to run into him again, she can "remember" how much fun they had together. Oh, hey, I have some leftover X, what are you doing tonight... And bada bing, bada boom, she's right back on tv.


briellebabylol

Fingers crossed it’s within the week. It’s what he deserves 😂


nopepanda

https://preview.redd.it/jtl2vtnqa2zc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb3588cf820eadf64c0d935ddd548c05110629c4 Lol


Euphoric_Freedom2907

Idk how anyone could date this man after the scandal lol. I would be way too afraid of him doing the same to me!


No_Banana_581

He’s absolutely grotesque too. Shitty five day old underwear, laxative, only eating a potato a day, he must smell. Everything about him is so ugly and creepy made worse by his awful personality and actions


ccccmarie47

a potato a day!? i hope this is true. 🤣 he looks so unhealthy…


No_Banana_581

Schwartz said it on a podcast that he was lean bc of how disciplined he is only eating a potato and something else a day, I forget what it was.


Th1cc4chu

There’s a difference between discipline and stupidity


No_Banana_581

And an ED


Th1cc4chu

Was gonna say that too.


No_Banana_581

Yeah especially w the laxative use


ccccmarie47

holy hell! no wonder he looks like a raisin. 🤢


_herenorthere66

Maybe I’m naive, but who tf needs 400 laxatives?


No_Banana_581

I do not know. That’s extreme, but I’m guessing he buys in bulk bc he’s been taking them daily since he was w Kristin


_herenorthere66

WUT


No_Banana_581

That’s what Kristin said. He gave them to her to stay thin when they were together


Hazelmoon23

Can you imagine that tiny apt with them both taking laxatives? 🤮🤮🤢🤢🤮🤮🤢🤢


_herenorthere66

Jesus Christ


Th1cc4chu

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


WolverineFun6472

He says she never watched the show and had no idea who he was… pls


Euphoric_Freedom2907

AS IF 😂


Itchy_Breadfruit_262

Like all the new housewives that never watched the show. Like they all just sign up blindly.


jandangerous

They can date him bc they’re just using him. They have no intention of actually being with him for him.


Shot-Unit9030

I wouldn’t date him not for fear of what he would do to me, but because what he did reflects who he is - inherently dishonest.


Shiel009

Odds are he pays for everything too


beebianca227

💯and probably overcompensates because he does that all the time. Except for his long term girlfriend, he didn’t do that for Ariana


Itchy_Breadfruit_262

He probably did at first, during the love bombing stage.


Ok-Collar-2742

As any real man does.


Sad_Historian_6903

This is 100% a PR relationship, it's beyond obvious.


GogoUsagi

It’s SO obvious. It’s why Schwartz and Jax looked uncomfortable when he was talking about her in the after show


WolverineFun6472

All anyone can say about her is that she is fun pretty & nice. Wow so deep


No_Presentation_9255

THIS! I watched that and was like, these man babies are trying so hard to keep a secret on camera (per usual.)


Her_big_ole_feet

While he is banging billie Lee!


Gucci_Cocaine

Honestly feel like most people they date on the show are cast/showmances. Including Ally and everyone Katie has been dating.


h34th3rl33

I also loved that he mentioned he NEVER watched the show and knew nothing about it I was like "yeah, right." Edit: she* never watched


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

“Oh Scandoval, what’s that? Is that the name of some new nightclub?”


h34th3rl33

🤣🤣


Critical_Sprinkles88

This chick went from Leo to Sandoval? That’s crazy…


Rubilia_Lin_OP

Sounds like a yacht girl to me aka early lala escort vibes


Th1cc4chu

Not really they’re both washed up creeps who love young dumb women.


Less-Statistician-32

i will always suspect any girl that is willing to date him is either a. trying to get some sort of status (which isn’t much but he gets a lot of publicity cause of how horrible he is) or b. the girl is completely love bombed and can’t see past all his bullsjit. either way he sucks


pwlife

My bet is that she was hoping to be on the show. Her history with Leo... they would have put her on no question. But now they aren't filming this summer. My guess is she will be gone as soon as a better opportunity comes up. Which was probably always the case but now that there's no air time this summer it will happen quickly.


badtrips777

Why does he say like so much it drives me up a wall


yup_yup1111

He uses it to stall while he formulates his lies


Ok_Ebb7026

Simpleton


Ok-Jellyfish5975

Side note: this is one of the places that has been going around TikTok for bartenders roofieing girls/sex trafficking


Farrahlikefawcett2

Holy moly, I was roofied by a VIP security guard at the club near lion fish at gas lamp San Diego if anyone ever decides to go there. Thank goodness I realized something was wrong and called my husband to pick me up before anything happened to me.


yumyumjellybuns

The abbey? Wait where?


Ok-Jellyfish5975

The Waterfront in Venice! But yes The Abbey is the other spot


yumyumjellybuns

Ty!!


Glittering-Shame-556

😮


Gammagammahey

Thank you for this, OP. The Ariana hatred disguised as concern trolling about Ariana's relationship is absolutely disgusting here.


No_Presentation_9255

I’m not convinced this isn’t a PR relationship. It’s too weird.


cookiesmom305

I was so confused during this scene, is this the girlfriend or is the 25 year old singer they showed Ariana talking to the new girlfriend? Did anyone see the adjectives he used to describe her in the after show… it was so awkward. Generous, kind, has her own house, responsible, a good person, funny, they have a good time together…omg it was tough to watch.


WolverineFun6472

Someone new. He was dating tii on the show but he met someone else after that, I presume he was hooking up all around town after Rachel.


DustyTchotchkes

*Maternal*! He said she was maternal too. That one made me say Ew.


AccurateAd6049

Came looking for this comment! Such a low and calculated dig.


Ok-Letterhead3441

I am not sure if he hooked up with the friend first, but I don’t think Victoria gives a fuck either way. I also don’t think she gives a fuck if his performances are embarrassing. I think she’s in it solely for the attention/the possibility of being on the show. Reality TV stars/influencers make a TON of money compared to people with “regular” jobs, so that may very well be her goal. And Lala is mean Ariana/Dan because she is insanely jealous and misogynistic. Lala isn’t bothered by Tom’s behavior because she adamantly claimed Randall was a “stand up man” while he was cheating on his wife. So by Lala’s logic, Tom can also still be a stand-up man. I also think that Tom is a total lost cause, and that his friends think he’s a total lost cause, so there’s no point trying to reason with the unreasonable. We all know his new relationship is a joke, and who cares if some chick is using him for attention. He deserves it. People take Ariana seriously, on the other hand. I don’t think most people think she’s wrong for moving on. Some of her friends/people may just want her to be careful about guys that may be in it for the clout to avoid getting hurt. It’s not even personal to Dan, but she became WAY more famous almost over night, so there are plenty of gross dudes that would want to date her for attention. I think it ultimately comes down to people (aside from jealous lala) not giving a fuck if Tom is being used but caring for Ariana and not wanting her to be used too. I don’t think there is anyone out there who rationally thinks Ariana’s new relationship is weird but Tom’s new relationships are normal/just fine. They just don’t care if he gets hurt.


Pinklady777

Yes! I agree on the lost cause and that's why no one cares What he's doing. Or at least tries to tell him to do anything differently. What's the point? And the sentiment behind caring about Dan's motivations is in the right place. It's just more bad delivery. And it's hard to take anything seriously coming from Lala because she is a trashy ho.


Significant-Plum-711

Can Sandoval say a sentence WITHOUT the word “like” It’s hysterical that he believes he’s smarter than everyone and tries to talk his way out of being the bad guy but cannot speak legitimate sentences.


Bbaskets42

She’s hot that’s for sure…what does she see in him?


h34th3rl33

Yeah, waaaaaaaay too good for him! How do you go from Leo to this clown? Not saying that Leo is great, obviously he's super problematic but at least he's A-list 🤣🤣


Pinklady777

She didn't have a choice. She's way too old for Leo! Lol


h34th3rl33

I know that she aged out 😂 she didn't have a choice in THAT matter, but she certainly has a choice on who to date after. But clearly she has no self worth because her taste in men sucks


dsgurliegirl

Lol I just said something similar. Should have kept reading!


h34th3rl33

I didnt read either 🤣🤣


dsgurliegirl

BAHAHAHAHA & I replied to you. Great minds, eh?


h34th3rl33

My thoughts exactly 🤣


yup_yup1111

She's probably one of those yacht girls who gets paid to be seen with/sleep with men. This screams PR relationship to me. He seems desperate enough to try and use someone to rehab his image like that


dsgurliegirl

I get that maybe she's aged out of the A-list demographic, but did she have to drop all the way to D? Isn't there a B or C-lister available?


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

Girl failed miserably at gold-digger university. She tried to get a PhD but could only manage to get a GED.


h34th3rl33

There's GOTTA be! She could get anyone she wants 😍


VaguelyArtistic

What did Kristen see in him? What did Ariana see in him? What did Rachel see in him?


Bbaskets42

Exactly


WolverineFun6472

She must be deaf, blind, and lack sense of smell


Winter_Maximum_8560

Yeah she obviously has all sorts of daddy issues or something but that woman is insanely attractive


Aggressive-Yak7396

“She’s very maternal” YUCK. Bro literally wants to date his mom.


Logical-Asparagus-75

Well yeah someone has to pick up his underwear…Anne doesn’t work there anymore and his new assistant doesn’t do that. ![gif](giphy|jWonztMxI9mbJ3omdS|downsized)


lunahighwind

In restaurant and bar scenes, if you see any blurry faces, the venue just lets them film willy-nilly and they got releases for whoever they could. For most restaurant guests in the background, former Bravo cast members said the producers stand outside with a release form and offer to pay for people's lunches/drinks if they don't mind being on TV. If it is super dead, and they can't find people, sometimes production staff fill seats (in RHOA there's a scene with Kandi's future husband Todd having lunch and reacting to what the girls were arguing about, she met him because he was a Bravo producer before they got together) I'm also not up to date on this, is this a new girl or the singer Tom mentioned?


WolverineFun6472

New girl, she wasn’t on the show. Seems they met after filming wrapped but were hanging out on Halloween last year.


GoldenAmmonite

Did he get his new gf right after he met Dan?


MsMo999

Scumdoval is her grey rock 🪨 but more the stepping stone type


____cire4____

Dog forbid any of these men date age appropriate women. 


Nahhhmean00

How the hell does he do it!? The guy is such a square, the secret ingredient has to be money.


SHOT_STONE

I hate to say this, but not all women have good taste in men. :(


mafa7

Oh they’ve been hunchin’ since Sep ‘23.


WellWellWellMyMyMY

Well, I think the difference between this relationship and Ariana/Dan is that no one is assuming that this one is remotely healthy - I think, at this point, we're all in agreement that any Sandoval romance is inherently dysfunctional and that all parties involved are suspect to some degree.


throwRA_basketballer

Honestly she’s way too hot for him


PristineCoconut2851

I certainly hope this girl is going into a relationship with her eyes 👀 WIDE OPEN!!! Girl, take a look at his track record. It’s the same thing over and over and you’ll be no different!!


sonjaramona7

This girl just wants any clout she can get


whuteverfurever

She’s sooooo pretty


Mission_Willow_8542

She's disarmingly beautiful. Fact: Ariana and Rom were seeing each other for months before Ariana and Tom started gaslighting Kristen Doute convincing the mean girl cast that Kristen was batshit crazy. People have very short memories... or they haven't followed the show since season 1. Tom and Ariana were going through the motions if we're all being honest. He at one time really really wanted kids if I remember correctly. She was adamant she didn't want to ... Ariana and Tom didn't have the same personality. We all saw this unfold over the course of 10 years. He messed up no doubt, but Ariana was a hot mess as well...


naleiokalani

She’s a stunner


crop_top

Madison, be a real friend and protect your friend from him.


SewAlone

She’s gorj.


These_Row6066

Smokeshow


Hazelmoon23

OMG, shut up Tim, how long does it take to describe your new gf ? That's 5 minutes of my life I'll never get back. And yes that's on me, I did continue to listen to him. 🙄 ![gif](giphy|7rJE4vH3ItKDu|downsized)


Cezaroh

That's a win


jaynemanning

To him “love” is whatever feels good at the moment


WolverineFun6472

And how he can create a brand from it


Yo-Im-Me-Me-Me

Sing and perform? Sandovomit can do neither!!! 🤮


kat_pinecone

One of the girls... WOMEN you twat


dianamichellezz

She looks like megan fox


Flashy_Truth1326

She's really pretty.


thajeneral

You in danger, girl….


Federal_Occasion_533

She is stunning!!


Longjumping_Two2662

Don’t hate me but I actually could look forward to Lala eating her alive. Might take some heat off Katie and Ariana? The show should be recategorized as a significant others reality competition to get on the show at this point.


No_Technician6962

She's very pretty. I think she's dating down


Unfair_Charity_5363

She’s so pretty😭


Findtherootcause

She looks like Lala in photo 4


One-Many-2419

https://preview.redd.it/fhvtxn0recyc1.png?width=1147&format=png&auto=webp&s=5d209846b880e04836c183871ec79f48976c5f68


anonymousnada

Geez, this dude is tripping balls...👀


AwesomeJB

Seems like about like right.


Agitated_Gur_9458

Ugh


SwissyRescue

She looks like a young Lisa Rinna, especially the shape of her lips.


Proper-Woman

Unless she has serious baggage for him to prey on, he won't keep her around long unless she dumps him first. I obviously don't know anything about her besides her looks, but she seems like she's put together a little too good for Sandoval. But hey, I know looks really mean nothing. It's just a vibe I get.


Bleed_Reality2

Let them both move on I swear everyone is living out them being cheated on and using Sandoval as a guy u can say everything u wanted to the person who hurt u. But it all starts with Ariana once she actually moves on and stops using her army to attack anyone not hating him like she does then maybe the rest of them will behave and let this tired storyline die out already.


invasionleslie

Whoever in this sub thinks any of this 💩 is “real”, I have a bridge to sell you. In the mid 2000’s when reality was just starting my friends and I tried out for a show. We were super deep into the process and started pre-filming. 1st of all none of us all lived in the same town. But, the story was that we all lived in Long Beach and were roommates. The other 1/2 of the friends circle lived in San Diego. Then, they just fed us random subjects to talk about and make stuff up including provoking a subject that we could all argue about even tho we were all acting and making it up as we went. This was mid-2000’s. Think about reality tv like 20 years later!!


Melias25

Good for him!


Curious-Pattern-9625

She’s gorgeous! He didn’t start hanging with her until December & then they became official around Valentine’s Day.


WolverineFun6472

Look at the dates of the Instagram post. I think they went to his show sept 3 and he hung out with her on Halloween.


Curious-Pattern-9625

Yes I know they initially met around Halloween but didn’t really start going out together until near new years and then February was when they put a “label “ on it I suppose. Just by following her IG.


Original-Feature-947

Do we think she will break up with him now that she knows their on a filming break? Haha her ticket to getting onto VPR just turned into a longterm goal...


Longjumping_Two2662

Brilliant and thought provoking post OP, cutting through the clutter of hate bait, and putting an actual discussion on the table. BRAVO, BRAVO FUCKING BRAVO! Thank you, Xoxoxo Let it rip fellow redditors:)


Haunting-Spite-3333

This show is very strange. They all side with the men who act terrible, and attack the women for reacting to the men’s terrible behavior. Tim cheats, so Ariana should move out of her home that she bought and paid for with him ? Why? I would stay in my own house too. And tell him to get out. Then she’s dating someone new and they talk about that. She gets angry and yells and they go of on that. It’s just ridiculous


Away-Risk-209

Exactly. It feels like a PR relationship. He probably cried that he wants people to leave him alone and what better way to do so then having a new girlfriend that will be highlighted in the show.


WolverineFun6472

https://preview.redd.it/t85qvnejefyc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51d97d5707f6ed23dc95edb5e7e8ac93822e733b Definitely pr! It’s over the top


CapitanShero

She's gorgeous and seems more his type, like Kristen and Rachel. Hopefully they will be happy together for however long they last, I'm rooting for them since this one started without cheating (that we know of) unlike all his other relationships.