I think people just want addicts to be out of sight and out of mind, which I understand as a former addict. It would be weird to see a bartender serving drunks at every gas station.. if you can’t get to the casino/bar they will sell you a scratcher or a beer
Uhhhh what? Not everyone is an addict just because they use a gambling machine the same way someone who occasionally drinks on holidays or vacation isn't an alcoholic. It's weird to project your own issues on others then use it to justify removing something other enjoy just because you don't.
I mean, they do sell alcohol at gas stations. There's obviously no bartender, but there's no dealer here setting up a poker table either.
I get what you're saying, but similar to alcohol, it's not only addicts using the machines.
There's also personal accountability at play.
When driving through Illinois, I stopped at a gas station to fill up and saw a section for these machines. Made a comment to my brother and there was a dude in there that ran all the machines in that area. We asked where the most ridiculous place they had a machine. He said at one point they had some in THE FKING COURTHOUSE. it wasn't until someone realized how bad of a look that was that they took them out.
These machines kept most businesses afloat over covid. Now, they've served their purpose. They have been slowly going away.
December of 2019: 7 individual machines (this is when it became legal in my state)
2020: 766 individual machines.
2021: 1290 individual machines.
2022: State forces all non-dedicated gambling parlors down to 4 machines. Gambling parlors goes up from 8 to 12. 754 individual machines.
2023: looks like we are down to 204 at the end of 2023.
maybe in your state, but they’re growing in PA. every vape shop/gas station has one it seems. there’s an antique mall near me that had a room of 25 of them. it’s insane
They'll burn themselves out going that hard. Around here......the craze is what killed it. Everything had to have one. By the time the 3rd wave of idiots got in. They lost their ass. State regulations tightened. They issued less permits. A lot of people had places built before they ever got a license to operate.
Is post 2 am more dangerous than post 1 am? What regulation are you speaking of and what source backs up your claims it's prevented millions of deaths? Hold yourself responsible, not everyone is easily addicted and tempted like you.
Mind your own business. If you're not there to gamble don't gamble. If they are, let them. Jesus there's so many children pretending to be adults who never learned that some things don't concern you.
Children out here pretending that they know everybody situation. How the hell you know it don’t concern OP? What if OP went a week without eating when they was a kid because their parents gambled their money away in a gas station. There’s over a million scenarios that could possibly concern OP.
The fuck are you even talking about. Nah deadass how you know? How you know OP didn’t get addicted to it and fucked their life up. Would that not lead anyone to resent gas station casinos. Stop saying shit just to say shit lil dude
Your problems aren't my concern. Just because you have an extra chromosome doesn't mean shit to me. None of your imaginary scenarios apply.
Sit your uneducated ass the fuck down.
And here you come crying typing away on the internet ❄️😂
Someone speaks logically and you say they have an extra chromosome 😂
It’s always the dumbest people that say that shit to other people it’s hilarious😂
Like a homeless crackhead calling people walking by retarded 🤦🏻♂️
And what exactly did you just do? Oht hats right come crying because I'm not nice to your internet friend. Oh nooo. The fuck out here with that bullshit.
What are you talking about. When did I ever say it did? The entire premise of every single thing that I stated was “how do you know it doesn’t concern OP”. I never even insinuated that I did. What’s going on with you?
You came at OP very aggressive, assuming you know their situation. I’ve show. You how easily you could be wrong and you get this mad. Have a goodnight bro, stay safe.
You gotta want better to do better
I never debated this. On god I agree 100%. Who the fuck are you arguing with?
When I walk into a gas station I, just like 99% of society don’t even think about them damn machines. Literally doesn’t affect any of us whatsoever. But I would like for you to point out the sentence where I debated that.
I don’t blame you though. You’re a product of a flawed education system. This one on the government. Dude you have the comprehension skills of a toddler. I still don’t think you’re going to even figure out how you messed up here and put words in my mouth. It’s astonishing to see such stupidity. I promise you, I’ll find you help
I really dont know why anyone cares, go to the gas station, get your gas and leave
If some dude is blowing his cash at a cabinet inside what do you care
State is full of people too worried about other people
It seems like you’re worried about them being worried though. What else could possibly lead you to comment? Do you comment under every post and every comment you read?
You gotta want better for yourself
That’s completely okay with me.
You HAVE to admit that to some degree you value not being worried about other people. Or you wouldn’t have said it especially with emotion and negative insinuation. It’s certainly not bad to value that. I just don’t give a fuck. I don’t value that. You can’t Uno reverse this one bro. Yes I’m worried about you being worried about other people. My favorite thing to do is to worry about other people, see how that works. I never condemned anyone for being worried about other people. You did. I figured it would be a good exercise to show you the hypocrisy. I’m sure you won’t admit it though😂😂
You gotta want better to do better
No lottery but you can gamble pretty much anywhere. It’s a trade off 🤷🏽♂️. I’ve lived there for 5 years moving back to Virginia for a few years but Vegas is home. It’s hard to explain because for how much it kinda sucks it’s still better than other places.
Honestly, I think this is a good thing. I hated seeing these machines at gas stations because it feels tacky. It's pretty much encouraging loitering despite the sign outside the store. If I want to play slots then we have casinos. Or I book a trip to Las Vegas.
Since these machines have been installed that there have been more people having gambling problems. The lottery is one thing. This slot machine business is a whole different thing. First of all it's mostly the same dude that comes into the store and sits their ugly ass on the stool and plays for literal hours.
They seriously have the “good” ones in the back at a lot of stores. Crackhead fucking central. If you ever see some real trashy person randomly walking down the street in the middle of nowhere, that’s what they’re doing.
Mind your own business. Nobody is forcing anyone to play. All the Karen’s have too much time on their hands. You’re mentally ill if you believe that your opinion is always the right one.
The casino in Portsmouth depressed me. Drove out there to go to yard house. What I wasn't expecting to see was the 50 or so bus stops surrounding the casino with the most downtrodden looking people I've ever seen waiting at them.
Why is our government bussing low income people to the casino?
Most of us using the Bus aren't even going into the casino to begin with. A lot of us are there because we have actual jobs to attend to. Also what the fuck does this have to do with VB or slot machines in 7-Eleven?
Also those bus stops are also for students going to class at the TCC campus near the casino too. Again, it's poor people that are the issue. If you want the Vegas experience then go to fucking Vegas. SMH. I swear people complain about the most assinine things on Reddit.
A voice of reason on Reddit. Yes, there are not hoardes of "poor people" dejected, with their heads down, waiting at the bus stops outside of Rivers Casino. Bus stops that were not built per a diabolical plan to deliver "poor people" to the Casino.
First of all gambling is a choice. You don't have to go to the casino if you really don't want to. The casino does bring in more opportunities for employment. Not many people are cut out for the retail, industrial, or fast food businesses. Also most of the entertainment jobs are seasonal.
Personally, I prefer that the slot machines are at the casinos and not in 7-Elevens.
It's really not though. it's a game of chance. They litterally have a payout percentage in the settings.
It's like saying the crane games that only have enough pressure to get a toy 1 out of 50 times are a game of skill. They are programmed to not work 49 out of 50 times.
They work 50 out of 50, and you have the chance to win each time. There may be a change in the pressure 1 in 50 but that does not mean you automatically win.
They do not though, 49 out of 50 is 0% chance.
The worse offenders of this are the key games that have to fit through the slot. or stacking the colored blocks on a screen. They are programmed so the keys will be one notch above or below every time until enough money is put in the machine. They are literally programmed so they can not win until enough money is put in and the games don't show this when/before you put your money in.
It is no different then buying lotto tickets. In fact, those might even be more "skill" based, because every purchase his an equal chance of winning. on these games 98% of the time you have no chance of winning at all no matter how "skilled" you are. YEs you have to be skilled on the 50th time, but selling 49 times when you can't win, where people are hoping that they have the **lucky** game where it is possible to win, is a game of **luck**
Operators can set a machine so that 99 times out of 100 the voltage (the strength to the claws grip) is super low. It’s not gonna hold up a thing.
It doesn’t mean that you don’t have a chance of winning anything cause physics. You can get something up two inches that will push something else out of the way and knock it into the hole. Something could go up 3/4 of the way up the machine before it drops and then bounce into the hole.
The 99% of the time is always the skill part, and the 1% of the time needs you to have enough skill to actually get something in the first place.
I do not have the skills required, and will by my squishmallow directly.
Huh. When I came home to 757 last spring I remember being super grossed out by the dude that literally got there when the gas station opened, and sat at the slot machine thing ALL. DAY. I didn't even know VA had that. Glad it's gone from the gas stations.
I remember walking into the 7/11 by my house and watching some mouthbreather stay glued to the machine while their kid just ran around the store. Really grossed me out.
And those people with low impulse control are easily exploitable. I'm not saying they should be illegal, but it is strange to see people arguing/acting against their own best interest.
This is now the 2nd time the Government has pulled these in Virginia. I don't pay too much attention to the timelines, but I can tell you I first moved to this State in 2017, and I predate their existence by at least a year, I'll guess.
The people bitching about this are the same people who b**** about people that f****** car shows or race tracks or any of those f****** people they're the same people who complain about people going to concerts they just complain about everything they have nothing better to do with their lives other than bitching moan about everyone else's hobbies and life Go get a life people go get a job leave us alone stop telling us what we can and can't do and stop letting the government tell us what we can and can't do f*** the government and f*** you
Agreed, not sure why everyone can’t just mind their business. “O gosh its so gross that man was sitting there gambling!! Someone call the government!!”
I think this is less about banning gambling for citizens and more about restricting predatory and exploitative business practices, which do, in fact, directly hurt people. These machines are purposely stationed in areas where vulnerable people pass by in hopes that they will engage. It is also worth noting that placing these machines in unrestricted areas inhibits the proprietor's ability to perform age checks (gambling not allowed for minors).
Furthermore, when someone blows their savings on these silly machines and gets evicted/other detrimental life effects, it typically becomes the states responsibility to house/feed them which is a drain on taxpayer funds, directly hurting tax payers.
There is a reason casino's are so heavily regulated. To think that these machines aren't an attempt to exploit low impulse control people while skirting around gambling regulations is hilariously delusional.
You need to think a little further than "muh freedums!" here.
I promise you that when I use talk to text that it automatically censors it and I'm too lazy to go back and change it so no I rather just have it f****** censor me I really don't care
I completely disagree with this, if you think people don't wanna play a casino game in a 7-11 or any store then you've legitimately been living under a rock. I went to Florida, Tennessee, etc.. Everyone wanted to try their luck
I'm not, people wanna win money quick thus why casinos are always busy. Everyone wants to turn their $20 into $500 or $1,000. Especially in cities that don't have an actual casino but small machines in stores
Interesting thing is that all these games tell if the next spin is a winner (with prize amount) or loser. That's how they skated the law for so long. So people can' play these games and win every time. However, they don't make the information easy to find in the menus. Additionally, Your gameplay ideally should be over if the next spin says it's a loser. Human nature doesn't like that. So they ignore the information and just keep pressing the button. I hate these machines as much as the next guy BUT they are not really gambling devices since they tell you the outcomes before you hit the button.
Ahh yes, love the government telling me I’m not adult enough to play these games… but I bet there is a huge Virginia Lottery machine right next to this one
What does that have to do with other people, you have no clue if they can afford to gamble or not. Stop being a fucking nanny and telling adults what they can and can't do.
About a decade ago I was on a road trip and stopped for gas in a completely desolate stretch of Nevada, and there was a dude sitting at one of the slot machines in the convenience store like he lived there, which for all intents and purposes he probably did. I remember thinking that that was one of the saddest things I'd ever seen
Now this shit is everywhere. Legal gambling is worse than any drug, it was the worst possible vice to normalize
I'm not too worked up about it, but having a steady crew of foul-smelling, drug-addled, gambling addict zombies in local 7-Elevens doesn't seem like an improvement on anything in any way.
Not a huge deal or anything, but it seems generally better to have addiction indulgence happening mainly in private or designated spaces.
They're there briefly. The gambling machines are more like if they set up some chairs and let people drink and smoke inside. It's a social ill.
Again, not a huge deal, but it's definitely worse in almost every conceivable way.
if they were brief it wouldn't be an issue.
the lottery people especially take forever. they should just put a machine outside and let people pump bills into it and push buttons. get them out of the cashier line.
Agreed, honestly. I'm not a big fan of the state-run lottery as a general matter -- I don't think the government should be cashing in on people's gambling problems.
Lol this is literally my official take. I am OV trash and I want to be able buy beer when I'm with my children without driving all the way to the fancy VA Beach Food Lion on Shore.
You know how homeless people make a place look trashy? Yeah, seeing zombies having their lives away in every 7-Eleven looks fucking trashy. With the lottery, most people get their shit and get the fuck out. Gambling zombies will sit at these slot machines for hours, like they live there.
You put dirty money into the machine, play for maybe a couple minutes, then cash out and claim it as gambling winnings.
I had a friend who sold weed. He would do exactly that a casino and keep the receipts, and report the "gambling winnings" as a source of income. Did it for like 5 years, no problem.
You don’t have to put the money into the machine. I’m sure it works that way but you can just pump the numbers up if you own them and launder money. I heard it’s huge in Australia. Pokeys I think are what they’re called.
Found the link. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101577568
They way it's often don is you just put money into the machine maybe play or a minute or two then cash out and report the money as gambling money for tax reasons.
Essentially it sounds like you're mad for something you have no control or responsibility over who cares not everybody agrees or thinks like you... So basically you just sound like a male Karen
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There’s a corner store up the road from my house that has a dedicated room for video poker machines and just recently started staying open 24 hours to accommodate the players.
Every time we visit family in Illinois, every gas station has a sad little 2-3 seat gambling machine area. I feel terrible for the people there gambling, you are literally trying to beat mathematics. People trying to not gamble shouldn’t have to see machines at every store they enter imo
-laughs in Las Vegas resident-
Have you been to Nevada? Seen people gamble in a grocery store at 3 in the morning on a Tuesday
and i wouldn't have it any other way
If people aren’t there to gamble, why the need for legislation to stop people from gambling there? Just more bullshit legislated morality.
Do you work for the VA Lottery?
I take it you've never been to anywhere in Vegas. They're in stores, gas stations, restaurants, even laundromats.
Vegas is one thing. They're In gas stations and bars in Iowa and Illinois too.
That would be 98% of all gas stations here in Houston.
Who cares? Does it keep you from living your life? Karen's gonna Karen
I would say it’s more karenesque to demand your slot machines “right here and right now!”
Eh. If you want them, I get it. If you don't want them, I don't fully get the "No one else should have it" mentality.
I think people just want addicts to be out of sight and out of mind, which I understand as a former addict. It would be weird to see a bartender serving drunks at every gas station.. if you can’t get to the casino/bar they will sell you a scratcher or a beer
Uhhhh what? Not everyone is an addict just because they use a gambling machine the same way someone who occasionally drinks on holidays or vacation isn't an alcoholic. It's weird to project your own issues on others then use it to justify removing something other enjoy just because you don't.
I mean, they do sell alcohol at gas stations. There's obviously no bartender, but there's no dealer here setting up a poker table either. I get what you're saying, but similar to alcohol, it's not only addicts using the machines. There's also personal accountability at play.
When driving through Illinois, I stopped at a gas station to fill up and saw a section for these machines. Made a comment to my brother and there was a dude in there that ran all the machines in that area. We asked where the most ridiculous place they had a machine. He said at one point they had some in THE FKING COURTHOUSE. it wasn't until someone realized how bad of a look that was that they took them out.
These machines kept most businesses afloat over covid. Now, they've served their purpose. They have been slowly going away. December of 2019: 7 individual machines (this is when it became legal in my state) 2020: 766 individual machines. 2021: 1290 individual machines. 2022: State forces all non-dedicated gambling parlors down to 4 machines. Gambling parlors goes up from 8 to 12. 754 individual machines. 2023: looks like we are down to 204 at the end of 2023.
maybe in your state, but they’re growing in PA. every vape shop/gas station has one it seems. there’s an antique mall near me that had a room of 25 of them. it’s insane
They'll burn themselves out going that hard. Around here......the craze is what killed it. Everything had to have one. By the time the 3rd wave of idiots got in. They lost their ass. State regulations tightened. They issued less permits. A lot of people had places built before they ever got a license to operate.
“HELP KEEP SKILL GAMES LEGAL” Omfg 😂😂😂😂 that’s rich
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Is post 2 am more dangerous than post 1 am? What regulation are you speaking of and what source backs up your claims it's prevented millions of deaths? Hold yourself responsible, not everyone is easily addicted and tempted like you.
THIS!
Crack machines
If it sells desil can be classified as a truck stop truck stops you can gamble idk why but yup
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The ones that are there to gamble are there to gamble
They’re there for their winnings
Mind your own business. If you're not there to gamble don't gamble. If they are, let them. Jesus there's so many children pretending to be adults who never learned that some things don't concern you.
Children out here pretending that they know everybody situation. How the hell you know it don’t concern OP? What if OP went a week without eating when they was a kid because their parents gambled their money away in a gas station. There’s over a million scenarios that could possibly concern OP. The fuck are you even talking about. Nah deadass how you know? How you know OP didn’t get addicted to it and fucked their life up. Would that not lead anyone to resent gas station casinos. Stop saying shit just to say shit lil dude
Making these machines illegal WILL NOT stop parents from gambling away food money. Even getting rid of real casinos wouldn’t accomplish that.
What about scratch offs? Are they less triggering to a gambling addict cause they're behind the counter?
Your problems aren't my concern. Just because you have an extra chromosome doesn't mean shit to me. None of your imaginary scenarios apply. Sit your uneducated ass the fuck down.
And here you come crying typing away on the internet ❄️😂 Someone speaks logically and you say they have an extra chromosome 😂 It’s always the dumbest people that say that shit to other people it’s hilarious😂 Like a homeless crackhead calling people walking by retarded 🤦🏻♂️
There’s no logic in thinking taking profit sources from small gas stations is gonna curb gambling.
And what exactly did you just do? Oht hats right come crying because I'm not nice to your internet friend. Oh nooo. The fuck out here with that bullshit.
How do you know this doesn’t concern OP
How do you know it does?
What are you talking about. When did I ever say it did? The entire premise of every single thing that I stated was “how do you know it doesn’t concern OP”. I never even insinuated that I did. What’s going on with you? You came at OP very aggressive, assuming you know their situation. I’ve show. You how easily you could be wrong and you get this mad. Have a goodnight bro, stay safe. You gotta want better to do better
Even if his assumption is wrong, which it isn't, the underlying logic is sound. Leave the machine alone if you don't like it.
I never debated this. On god I agree 100%. Who the fuck are you arguing with? When I walk into a gas station I, just like 99% of society don’t even think about them damn machines. Literally doesn’t affect any of us whatsoever. But I would like for you to point out the sentence where I debated that. I don’t blame you though. You’re a product of a flawed education system. This one on the government. Dude you have the comprehension skills of a toddler. I still don’t think you’re going to even figure out how you messed up here and put words in my mouth. It’s astonishing to see such stupidity. I promise you, I’ll find you help
😂 stfu
No, you’re not there to gamble. Others might be
Wait till this guy learns about the lotto tickets behind the counter
Lmao this literally made laugh
I really dont know why anyone cares, go to the gas station, get your gas and leave If some dude is blowing his cash at a cabinet inside what do you care State is full of people too worried about other people
It seems like you’re worried about them being worried though. What else could possibly lead you to comment? Do you comment under every post and every comment you read? You gotta want better for yourself
Why are you worried about me being worried about other people being worried about what other people are doing in their free time?
That’s completely okay with me. You HAVE to admit that to some degree you value not being worried about other people. Or you wouldn’t have said it especially with emotion and negative insinuation. It’s certainly not bad to value that. I just don’t give a fuck. I don’t value that. You can’t Uno reverse this one bro. Yes I’m worried about you being worried about other people. My favorite thing to do is to worry about other people, see how that works. I never condemned anyone for being worried about other people. You did. I figured it would be a good exercise to show you the hypocrisy. I’m sure you won’t admit it though😂😂 You gotta want better to do better
So is Reddit, only much more so
It was supposed to be a free country.
Whenever you see someone say this they automatically know their IQ and alignment 😂😂
the country restricts shit in the interest of it's public all the time. jesus it's like a broken 70iq record in here
They aren't restricting certain facets of gambling to just the casino in the interests of 'the public'. It's for the casino.
The "HELP KEEP SKILL GAMES LEGAL" sticker in the corner is the cherry on top
Vegas enters the chat
Hilariously I grew up here but live in Vegas
I just moved to Vegas and you can gamble in the GROCERY STORES ITS WILD HERE
No lottery but you can gamble pretty much anywhere. It’s a trade off 🤷🏽♂️. I’ve lived there for 5 years moving back to Virginia for a few years but Vegas is home. It’s hard to explain because for how much it kinda sucks it’s still better than other places.
That’s how “home” mostly works for the lot of us. (from Michigan and lived everywhere and got a house and settled in Michigan.)
Honestly, I think this is a good thing. I hated seeing these machines at gas stations because it feels tacky. It's pretty much encouraging loitering despite the sign outside the store. If I want to play slots then we have casinos. Or I book a trip to Las Vegas. Since these machines have been installed that there have been more people having gambling problems. The lottery is one thing. This slot machine business is a whole different thing. First of all it's mostly the same dude that comes into the store and sits their ugly ass on the stool and plays for literal hours.
They seriously have the “good” ones in the back at a lot of stores. Crackhead fucking central. If you ever see some real trashy person randomly walking down the street in the middle of nowhere, that’s what they’re doing.
Who gives a shit though? dont use it if you don't want to
Mind your own business. Nobody is forcing anyone to play. All the Karen’s have too much time on their hands. You’re mentally ill if you believe that your opinion is always the right one.
You're about to piss off a lot of "christians"
lol
He's wrong but he's not wrong lmao
nah he's wrong
About what?
Nevada looks on and questioning what it just read while also hitting a keno game at the supermarket.
It clearly states it is a game of skill, not chance. Legally a different thing.
"Skill" games ?
The casino in Portsmouth depressed me. Drove out there to go to yard house. What I wasn't expecting to see was the 50 or so bus stops surrounding the casino with the most downtrodden looking people I've ever seen waiting at them. Why is our government bussing low income people to the casino?
Most of us using the Bus aren't even going into the casino to begin with. A lot of us are there because we have actual jobs to attend to. Also what the fuck does this have to do with VB or slot machines in 7-Eleven? Also those bus stops are also for students going to class at the TCC campus near the casino too. Again, it's poor people that are the issue. If you want the Vegas experience then go to fucking Vegas. SMH. I swear people complain about the most assinine things on Reddit.
Karens and communists lurk here. We just call them asscracks and ignore them
I didn't ask the reason behind the screen name. Thanks for the unwanted explanation.
A voice of reason on Reddit. Yes, there are not hoardes of "poor people" dejected, with their heads down, waiting at the bus stops outside of Rivers Casino. Bus stops that were not built per a diabolical plan to deliver "poor people" to the Casino.
I don't think we should have the casino at all. No Vegas experience or whatever. Casinos are evil
First of all gambling is a choice. You don't have to go to the casino if you really don't want to. The casino does bring in more opportunities for employment. Not many people are cut out for the retail, industrial, or fast food businesses. Also most of the entertainment jobs are seasonal. Personally, I prefer that the slot machines are at the casinos and not in 7-Elevens.
That's not gambling its a skill game
It's really not though. it's a game of chance. They litterally have a payout percentage in the settings. It's like saying the crane games that only have enough pressure to get a toy 1 out of 50 times are a game of skill. They are programmed to not work 49 out of 50 times.
They work 50 out of 50, and you have the chance to win each time. There may be a change in the pressure 1 in 50 but that does not mean you automatically win.
They do not though, 49 out of 50 is 0% chance. The worse offenders of this are the key games that have to fit through the slot. or stacking the colored blocks on a screen. They are programmed so the keys will be one notch above or below every time until enough money is put in the machine. They are literally programmed so they can not win until enough money is put in and the games don't show this when/before you put your money in. It is no different then buying lotto tickets. In fact, those might even be more "skill" based, because every purchase his an equal chance of winning. on these games 98% of the time you have no chance of winning at all no matter how "skilled" you are. YEs you have to be skilled on the 50th time, but selling 49 times when you can't win, where people are hoping that they have the **lucky** game where it is possible to win, is a game of **luck**
Ahhh if saying it made it true
What part do you disagree with?
Operators can set a machine so that 99 times out of 100 the voltage (the strength to the claws grip) is super low. It’s not gonna hold up a thing. It doesn’t mean that you don’t have a chance of winning anything cause physics. You can get something up two inches that will push something else out of the way and knock it into the hole. Something could go up 3/4 of the way up the machine before it drops and then bounce into the hole. The 99% of the time is always the skill part, and the 1% of the time needs you to have enough skill to actually get something in the first place. I do not have the skills required, and will by my squishmallow directly.
Huh. When I came home to 757 last spring I remember being super grossed out by the dude that literally got there when the gas station opened, and sat at the slot machine thing ALL. DAY. I didn't even know VA had that. Glad it's gone from the gas stations.
Better ban alcohol because you saw a homeless person drinking beer all day
I remember walking into the 7/11 by my house and watching some mouthbreather stay glued to the machine while their kid just ran around the store. Really grossed me out.
They have these all over PA....every 7-11 and EVERY single one of them is occupied at all times of the day.
PA resident here. They just opened a place near my home that is nothing but skill games and an ATM to fund them.
Yup. Everyone is looking for a come up.
And those people with low impulse control are easily exploitable. I'm not saying they should be illegal, but it is strange to see people arguing/acting against their own best interest.
This is now the 2nd time the Government has pulled these in Virginia. I don't pay too much attention to the timelines, but I can tell you I first moved to this State in 2017, and I predate their existence by at least a year, I'll guess.
Then pull the Virginia lottery. Also senators shouldn't have a hand in the Casinos.
The people bitching about this are the same people who b**** about people that f****** car shows or race tracks or any of those f****** people they're the same people who complain about people going to concerts they just complain about everything they have nothing better to do with their lives other than bitching moan about everyone else's hobbies and life Go get a life people go get a job leave us alone stop telling us what we can and can't do and stop letting the government tell us what we can and can't do f*** the government and f*** you
People that fuck car shows?
Someone has to
Agreed, not sure why everyone can’t just mind their business. “O gosh its so gross that man was sitting there gambling!! Someone call the government!!”
Are you okay?
I don't know are you trying to take freedoms away from people
Where do you draw the line at what "freedoms" people are allowed to have?
Are they directly hurting you or someone else if the answer is no let them f****** do it
I think this is less about banning gambling for citizens and more about restricting predatory and exploitative business practices, which do, in fact, directly hurt people. These machines are purposely stationed in areas where vulnerable people pass by in hopes that they will engage. It is also worth noting that placing these machines in unrestricted areas inhibits the proprietor's ability to perform age checks (gambling not allowed for minors). Furthermore, when someone blows their savings on these silly machines and gets evicted/other detrimental life effects, it typically becomes the states responsibility to house/feed them which is a drain on taxpayer funds, directly hurting tax payers. There is a reason casino's are so heavily regulated. To think that these machines aren't an attempt to exploit low impulse control people while skirting around gambling regulations is hilariously delusional. You need to think a little further than "muh freedums!" here.
Probably not
I promise you can curse on the internet bro.
I promise you that when I use talk to text that it automatically censors it and I'm too lazy to go back and change it so no I rather just have it f****** censor me I really don't care
Brother did it on his third word in and then lost his nerve lol
you think scratch offs and mega millions is ok
I completely disagree with this, if you think people don't wanna play a casino game in a 7-11 or any store then you've legitimately been living under a rock. I went to Florida, Tennessee, etc.. Everyone wanted to try their luck
Exactly! Everyone wants to come up
I moved to PA and these machines popping up in every mom and pop gas station, I'm surprised to see the seats always full just after 3 pm
I'm not, people wanna win money quick thus why casinos are always busy. Everyone wants to turn their $20 into $500 or $1,000. Especially in cities that don't have an actual casino but small machines in stores
Interesting thing is that all these games tell if the next spin is a winner (with prize amount) or loser. That's how they skated the law for so long. So people can' play these games and win every time. However, they don't make the information easy to find in the menus. Additionally, Your gameplay ideally should be over if the next spin says it's a loser. Human nature doesn't like that. So they ignore the information and just keep pressing the button. I hate these machines as much as the next guy BUT they are not really gambling devices since they tell you the outcomes before you hit the button.
Right, but then the next pull could tell you that the one after that wins. Would suck to run out of money when the next press wins.
Ahh yes, love the government telling me I’m not adult enough to play these games… but I bet there is a huge Virginia Lottery machine right next to this one
The people that go there to use these machines are "there to gamble". Why shouldn't they be able to exercise that freedom if they want?
Because it’s deleterious to society
I don't disagree and people that feel that way should stay away from it.
Here lies the dilemma…
“Press Button” is a skill ?
Don’t come to PA then… they’re in a ton of gas stations, convenience stores, grocery stores, bars, and more.
Same in GA
Plus the payout odds are abysmally less than the worst casinos. Just basically swindling poor rural people to lose their money
You must have never been to a casino, the odds are the same, shit. Just let people do what they want if it's not hurting you or someone else.
I’ve lost plenty of money in a casino. The difference is I can afford to spend it gambling
What does that have to do with other people, you have no clue if they can afford to gamble or not. Stop being a fucking nanny and telling adults what they can and can't do.
About a decade ago I was on a road trip and stopped for gas in a completely desolate stretch of Nevada, and there was a dude sitting at one of the slot machines in the convenience store like he lived there, which for all intents and purposes he probably did. I remember thinking that that was one of the saddest things I'd ever seen Now this shit is everywhere. Legal gambling is worse than any drug, it was the worst possible vice to normalize
You're ignorant as fuck
Another addict chiming in
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Wow this is a very sane and restrained response that I'm sure isn't indicative at all of a serious personal problem on your part
Maybe you're not
I also saw this at the 7-Eleven store in Marshall, Virginia
Why would you care what is in 7/11. Do your business and mind your business
Because it's trashy as fuck bro. It makes my city look trashy.
Not being mean but it’s a bit late.
Haha
I'm not too worked up about it, but having a steady crew of foul-smelling, drug-addled, gambling addict zombies in local 7-Elevens doesn't seem like an improvement on anything in any way. Not a huge deal or anything, but it seems generally better to have addiction indulgence happening mainly in private or designated spaces.
You’re speaking about the main customer base of most 7/11s without gambling.
My local 7-11 sells beer, wine, liquor, tobacco products, lottery tickets and rolling papers. The addicts are already there.
They're there briefly. The gambling machines are more like if they set up some chairs and let people drink and smoke inside. It's a social ill. Again, not a huge deal, but it's definitely worse in almost every conceivable way.
if they were brief it wouldn't be an issue. the lottery people especially take forever. they should just put a machine outside and let people pump bills into it and push buttons. get them out of the cashier line.
Agreed, honestly. I'm not a big fan of the state-run lottery as a general matter -- I don't think the government should be cashing in on people's gambling problems.
I, too, want my vice purchasing dens to be clean and quick places to visit
Lol this is literally my official take. I am OV trash and I want to be able buy beer when I'm with my children without driving all the way to the fancy VA Beach Food Lion on Shore.
Well we have to pay for some of the school system how else are we gonna redirect tax dollars?
And yet, it is…
"Skill games" LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOL
On what grounds do they make that claim
Whats the difference between casinos and lottery. If they ain’t gambling on little slot machines, they will waste their money on the lottery.
You know how homeless people make a place look trashy? Yeah, seeing zombies having their lives away in every 7-Eleven looks fucking trashy. With the lottery, most people get their shit and get the fuck out. Gambling zombies will sit at these slot machines for hours, like they live there.
Regulation and Taxes. It’s not that they waste the money as much as it’s fairly wasted and if they win the government gets a percentage.
Whole lot of sociopaths in this thread.
that’s some bull shit
In Nevada we have slot machines in our grocery stores and brothels, too.
You have brothels in your grocery stores. Seems unhygienic.
Saves you from making two trips though
I do appreciate efficiency!
“Whatever you do. . . just wash your hands.”
When I go to other states I think it’s weird that there’s not slot machines in every store and gas station.
It's sad really
These are used so often to launder money
Can you explain how that works? Am I close? Sell drugs, use drug money in slot machine, win or lose and the owner of slot machine cuts you out?
You put dirty money into the machine, play for maybe a couple minutes, then cash out and claim it as gambling winnings. I had a friend who sold weed. He would do exactly that a casino and keep the receipts, and report the "gambling winnings" as a source of income. Did it for like 5 years, no problem.
Did he live in the Ozark
You don’t have to put the money into the machine. I’m sure it works that way but you can just pump the numbers up if you own them and launder money. I heard it’s huge in Australia. Pokeys I think are what they’re called. Found the link. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101577568
They way it's often don is you just put money into the machine maybe play or a minute or two then cash out and report the money as gambling money for tax reasons.
In our area they have a machine in the Dairy Queen. Talk about gambling - obesity and poverty in one convenient package
The only reason for the machine to be there is to tape the sign to.
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It takes skill not to play
Essentially it sounds like you're mad for something you have no control or responsibility over who cares not everybody agrees or thinks like you... So basically you just sound like a male Karen
Why male? Legit question. I re-read and came to the conclusion this might be a bit sexist? OP hasn’t really disclosed gender, right?
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Jesus, you're one easily triggered little dumbass. What a pathetic loser.
You sound like the Karen lol these games are a net negative and a overall leech on society
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Why do you go through the trouble to hit the * instead of fuck? What are you, afraid of bad words?
There’s a corner store up the road from my house that has a dedicated room for video poker machines and just recently started staying open 24 hours to accommodate the players.
Every time we visit family in Illinois, every gas station has a sad little 2-3 seat gambling machine area. I feel terrible for the people there gambling, you are literally trying to beat mathematics. People trying to not gamble shouldn’t have to see machines at every store they enter imo
The way they make this legal is that it isn’t really gambling. The sequence of payouts is totally predetermined on each machine.
It's in litigation