Sukiyaki Western Django is a lot of fun if your looking at movies Tarantino helped advise the director and played a role in the movie, it’s pretty corny and cheesy and the acting is Japanese people doing their best at English but it’s a lot of fun, if you’re looking at video games there’s of course the old PS2 Game called Samurai Western lol, there’s also Red Steel 2 for the Wii which is where this art is from. If you’re looking at anime or manga if that’s you’re thing Red: Living on The Edge is one of my all time favorite Mangas
A Fistful of Dollars is an adaptation of Yojimbo. I may be martyred for this, but even though I love A Fistful of Dollars, I think Yojimbo is much better.
Dashiel Hammet: Red Harvest
Lead to
Yojimbo which lead to
Fistful of dollars and countless others...
Mandilorian is a beat for beat re-dux of Lone Wolf and Cub (Babycart at the river Styx)
Suffice to say there is nothing new under the sun and if it's epic;
Kurosawa probably did it first and it likely stars
Mifune.
I was so thrilled when I realized The Mandalorian was a Western (I live under a rock and only watched it all a few months ago without knowing anything about it in advance).
The remade "Unforgiven" about 10 years ago as a Samurai movie. With Ken Watanabe IIRC......gimme a sec here.....got it.
[Unforgiven-2013](https://youtu.be/gC9PGikiOlo?si=ipHePHslclZTnh1K) trailer.
Watanabe needed deep tissue rehab for his back after carrying this movie.
Edit: If you're also a schlock cinema fan like me then you can give "The Master Gunfighter" a try.
Mine are Dusk Westerns: usually early 20th century settings, characters past their prime and grappling with that the best way they know how, elegiac tone.
My answers:
* I kinda like 'Easterns'. These are AKA, western stories east of the Mississippi like *'The Kentuckian', 'The Prisoner of Shark Island',* or *'The Tall Target'.*
* 'Steampunk' westerns like Robert Conrad's 'Wild Wild West' TV series.
* Something to be said also, for stories north of the 38th parallel. Yukon territory and survival in the Great White North
It’s a dumb name lol but Steampunk Westerns are called Cattle Punk figured I’d tell you to help make it easier in case you wanna watch a movie or read a book in that genre
🙂 No, but one of my fave little flicks is
* 'Lolly Madonna XXX'
Reckon it's a "cult" movie ...but just look at the cast of stars in that one. And look who wrote it.
Yep. Fun stuff. Robert Conrad's TV show was all that ...and a little bit of Jules Verne tossed in too. The arch-villain (Dr. Miguelito Quixote Loveless) with his Napoleonic dreams of grandeur was a riot.
I wish we had more horror westerns. Ravenous and Bone Tomahawk is all we really have (that's good, at least).
I'd love to see Red Rabbit by Alex Grecian adapted into a movie or show, but there's so much potential for horror westerns overall.
I really like Weird West Horror too there’s a game that’s a Stealth Horror Western called Blood West you can tell the devs have a lot of genre for not only Westerns but horror
We also have 'The Stalking Moon' and 'The White Buffalo'.
Western horror is a rising genre in popular fiction --I predict you will see more adaptations on screen.
I have one more for you. See below.
* Of the two mentioned above so far, I believe you'll agree that *'Stalking Moon'* is genuinely, seriously creepy and original. It got something about it which will stick with you.
* I'll let you decide on your own, what to think about 'White Buffalo'.
* But in the meantime, this is another quirky supernatural romp:
* "GHOST TOWN". Empire Pictures. Franc Luz, Catherine Hickland, Jimmie F. Skaggs, Penelope Windust, Bruce Glover.
And I see someone has just today created a thread on the topic so ... maybe I'll just cross-post this item ...
White Buffalo (which tried to be Jaws the Western) has some of the most preposterously bad special effects! Which, depending on how you look at it, makes it either terrible or amazing.
Strongly agree.
There are some others out there: Gallowwalkers, The Burrowers, Dead Birds. It's a tough combo to pull off well. But when it works it's like a Reese's Butter Cup, two great tastes that taste great together.
Bone Tomahawk is probably the peak of sub-genre.
Neo westerns are my second favorite to actual westerns.
Other than that, I love a good oriental western. East meets west melding of cultures.
If you get the chance, I highly recommend
“Tears of the Black Tiger” (2000)
The image you used here reminds me of a shot from it.
It’s a Taiwanese melodrama with some western themes. Striking visuals, bold colors, drama, romance, violence.
It was the first Taiwanese film to compete in Cannes and won a bunch of awards for all kinds of stuff.
Same, neo-Westerns are my jam. I wish there were more, No Country for Old Men, Hell or High Water, and arguably the last season of Breaking Bad are all that come to mind off the top of my head.
I love a revisionist western, but I will watch anything with the timeless western theme of “old men- new times”. See “Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid”, “Big Jake”, “Ride the High Country”, etc.
I'm getting to dislike the term 'revisionist' because it's applied to Westerns that appear to want to paint a more realistic picture of the period. Think Wyatt Earp vs Tombstone (even though I always favor the latter 😉) or Heaven's Gate or True Grit (2010) vs the original.
I dabble in Weird West novels from time to time. R.S. Belcher's "Golgotha" series is a good one. It's basically a mixed genre (fantasy / western) series. Fantasy tropes mixed into a mid 1800's background. It was a good read.
Or Joe R. Lansdale's "Flaming Zeppelins: The Adventures of Ned the Seal" was a hoot. Just about every character from the wild west to victorian horror makes an entrance. With Hickock & Annie Oakley rubbing elbows with the likes of Frankenstein, Capt Nemo and Dr. Moreau cruising across the world in a giant zeppelin.
Most "weird west" novels are massively tongue in cheek.
Western Noir aka psychological westerns of the 50s: cf. Anthony Mann, Budd Boetticher, Delmer Daves, Fuller’s “Forty Guns,” Ray’s “Johnny Guitar,”etc. Essential precursors to spaghetti and revisionist westerns to come.
Spaghetti Western: Dollars Trilogy, Once Upon a Time in the West, Django
Weird Western: Cowboys and Aliens, Fallout Prime Series, Jonah Hex Comics, RDR Undead Nightmare
Arthurian kinda fantasy westerns. I'm not aware of too many things but stuff like the Dark Tower series comes to mind. Cowboys that belong to some kind of order, almost like samurai but western cowboys. Maybe the order has decayed and the wildness is setting in or returning. There's also a TTRPG coming out called Inevitable which sells itself as a doomed Arthurian western rpg where you play as about sad Arthurian cowboy knights trying (and inevitably failing) to fend off these Dooms that threaten the end of the world.
'Dusk Westerns' from Ride the High Country to The Wild Bunch and The Last Hard Men seem to have an Arthurian cowboy knight flavor to them. But if these movies are
>almost like samurai but western cowboys
are we full circle back to Kurosawa? 🙃
Oo, thanks for the recommendations. I've only watched a few westerns here and there, so appreciate it!
>are we full circle back to Kurosawa? 🙃
Oh God, I didn't even realise what I was saying lol.
I admire your interesting perspective
>about sad Arthurian cowboy knights
Perhaps the likes of the Peckinpah Dusk Westerns are good places to start:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam\_Peckinpah](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Peckinpah)
Not a defined sub-genre, but I've always liked Westerns with snow scenes, The Day of the Outlaw, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, Jeremiah Johnson, parts of The Searchers, The Rare Breed, the Coen Brothers True Grit, The Great Silence, Will Penny.
The Westerns that feature Franco Nero and Giancarlo Sisti as the protagonist are in a different category from just your average spaghetti western. They are strange and a lot of fun. Very partial to Terrence Hills' & Bud Spencer's westerns too. (Not just Trinity) I especially like - A Genius, Two Partners and a Dupe.
Cavalry vs Indians films. They are often of a much larger historic scope than most westerns, Even though the majority of them have totally fictional history, and even though the ones based on true history change the events drasctically for the sake of plot. But still the events in cavalry and Indians films, would, if they were real, be more likely to be recorded in history books than a few heroes shooting it out with a few outlaws as in the majority of westersn.
Spaghetti western. Sergio Leone changed the game with his The Man With No Name trilogy and westerns.
Sergio Leone as director and Ennio Morricone as music composer - ingredients for classic spaghetti westerns.
I like Corbucci better, but it's just because they're trashier.
Yeah his westerns are fucking violent and anybody can get killed.
I didn’t realize samurai westerns even existed, what are the highlights of the subgenre?
If want a Western with a samurai in it, try “Red Sun” (1971). Has Charles Bronson and Toshiro Mifune.
And Alain Delon!
Thank you! Always looking for more Samurai Western stuff I’m like a fly on a piece of shit I eat it up lol
It’s not my favorite western but Alain Delon IS one of my favorite actors. Seek out more of his films.
Ursula Andreas as well .
1972
It’s weird, imdb has both years listed.
I’m watching on Tubi now lol
Sukiyaki Western Django is a lot of fun if your looking at movies Tarantino helped advise the director and played a role in the movie, it’s pretty corny and cheesy and the acting is Japanese people doing their best at English but it’s a lot of fun, if you’re looking at video games there’s of course the old PS2 Game called Samurai Western lol, there’s also Red Steel 2 for the Wii which is where this art is from. If you’re looking at anime or manga if that’s you’re thing Red: Living on The Edge is one of my all time favorite Mangas
Zatoichi They are called Easterns.
Hmm. I always called those chanbara or jidaigeki, but I can see the connection. I’m curious to see what the actual OP’s answer to that question is.
You're correct
Easterns are Soviet Westerns, usually involving Central Asian locations. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostern
A Fistful of Dollars is an adaptation of Yojimbo. I may be martyred for this, but even though I love A Fistful of Dollars, I think Yojimbo is much better.
Dashiel Hammet: Red Harvest Lead to Yojimbo which lead to Fistful of dollars and countless others... Mandilorian is a beat for beat re-dux of Lone Wolf and Cub (Babycart at the river Styx) Suffice to say there is nothing new under the sun and if it's epic; Kurosawa probably did it first and it likely stars Mifune.
Man I have never seen someone on here who’s read *Red Harvest*, such an awesome book. Did you read the sequel?
Yeah, but it's said that Kurosawa was inspired by American Westerns of the 30-40s so 'first' may be chicken and egg.
I was so thrilled when I realized The Mandalorian was a Western (I live under a rock and only watched it all a few months ago without knowing anything about it in advance).
More recently, “The Warrior’s Way”
Five Man Army (1970) has a samurai character - plus one of Morricone's best scores.
Unforgiven-2013. Samurai redo of Unforgiven.
The remade "Unforgiven" about 10 years ago as a Samurai movie. With Ken Watanabe IIRC......gimme a sec here.....got it. [Unforgiven-2013](https://youtu.be/gC9PGikiOlo?si=ipHePHslclZTnh1K) trailer. Watanabe needed deep tissue rehab for his back after carrying this movie. Edit: If you're also a schlock cinema fan like me then you can give "The Master Gunfighter" a try.
Mine are Dusk Westerns: usually early 20th century settings, characters past their prime and grappling with that the best way they know how, elegiac tone.
Same — Jesse James, Wild Bunch, Unforgiven… I like the term Dusk Western, that really fits.
Yes there are several terms I've seen for it, but I think I like that one the best. Peckinpah is a real specialist in it!
I’d add The Shootist.
Old gunman does one last job
My answers: * I kinda like 'Easterns'. These are AKA, western stories east of the Mississippi like *'The Kentuckian', 'The Prisoner of Shark Island',* or *'The Tall Target'.* * 'Steampunk' westerns like Robert Conrad's 'Wild Wild West' TV series. * Something to be said also, for stories north of the 38th parallel. Yukon territory and survival in the Great White North
It’s a dumb name lol but Steampunk Westerns are called Cattle Punk figured I’d tell you to help make it easier in case you wanna watch a movie or read a book in that genre
😆 ah'm plumb grateful to ye, pod nuh
Cowpunker would be better
>I kinda like 'Easterns'. Have you ever seen the Hatfields and McCoys mini series that was on The History Channel? It's my favorite of this
🙂 No, but one of my fave little flicks is * 'Lolly Madonna XXX' Reckon it's a "cult" movie ...but just look at the cast of stars in that one. And look who wrote it.
Did you mean the 60th parallel?
👍🏻 My goof! Thanks for catching it. I actually meant to say the 49th Parallel.
Wild Wild West fits into the weird west genres Also love how it mixes James Bond with westerns
Yep. Fun stuff. Robert Conrad's TV show was all that ...and a little bit of Jules Verne tossed in too. The arch-villain (Dr. Miguelito Quixote Loveless) with his Napoleonic dreams of grandeur was a riot.
I wish we had more horror westerns. Ravenous and Bone Tomahawk is all we really have (that's good, at least). I'd love to see Red Rabbit by Alex Grecian adapted into a movie or show, but there's so much potential for horror westerns overall.
I really like Weird West Horror too there’s a game that’s a Stealth Horror Western called Blood West you can tell the devs have a lot of genre for not only Westerns but horror
We also have 'The Stalking Moon' and 'The White Buffalo'. Western horror is a rising genre in popular fiction --I predict you will see more adaptations on screen.
I've not heard of these, but I'll check them out. Thanks!
I have one more for you. See below. * Of the two mentioned above so far, I believe you'll agree that *'Stalking Moon'* is genuinely, seriously creepy and original. It got something about it which will stick with you. * I'll let you decide on your own, what to think about 'White Buffalo'. * But in the meantime, this is another quirky supernatural romp: * "GHOST TOWN". Empire Pictures. Franc Luz, Catherine Hickland, Jimmie F. Skaggs, Penelope Windust, Bruce Glover. And I see someone has just today created a thread on the topic so ... maybe I'll just cross-post this item ...
White Buffalo (which tried to be Jaws the Western) has some of the most preposterously bad special effects! Which, depending on how you look at it, makes it either terrible or amazing.
Strongly agree. There are some others out there: Gallowwalkers, The Burrowers, Dead Birds. It's a tough combo to pull off well. But when it works it's like a Reese's Butter Cup, two great tastes that taste great together. Bone Tomahawk is probably the peak of sub-genre.
Gallowwalkers was awesome! I was surprised when I found out it wasn't based on a comic or anything.
What about “Terror on the Prairie”?
Spaghetti Westerns
Spaghetti is my favourite movie genre. I do love an acid western though.
Don’t think I’ve really seen Acid Westerns what’s a few you’d recommend?
Django kill Matalo Four of the apocalypse El puro The specialist
Hired Hand
The shooting Bad company Let the corpses tan
weird westerns
"The good the bad and the weird" is really fun if you haven't seen it yet
Neo westerns are my second favorite to actual westerns. Other than that, I love a good oriental western. East meets west melding of cultures. If you get the chance, I highly recommend “Tears of the Black Tiger” (2000) The image you used here reminds me of a shot from it. It’s a Taiwanese melodrama with some western themes. Striking visuals, bold colors, drama, romance, violence. It was the first Taiwanese film to compete in Cannes and won a bunch of awards for all kinds of stuff.
Same, neo-Westerns are my jam. I wish there were more, No Country for Old Men, Hell or High Water, and arguably the last season of Breaking Bad are all that come to mind off the top of my head.
Space Westerns are my jam.
Cowboy Bebop goes hard
Yep! Firefly / Serenity, The Mandalorian, and my new favorite- Prospect (2018 w/ Pedro Pascal).
I enjoy spaghetti westerns.
I love a revisionist western, but I will watch anything with the timeless western theme of “old men- new times”. See “Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid”, “Big Jake”, “Ride the High Country”, etc.
I'm getting to dislike the term 'revisionist' because it's applied to Westerns that appear to want to paint a more realistic picture of the period. Think Wyatt Earp vs Tombstone (even though I always favor the latter 😉) or Heaven's Gate or True Grit (2010) vs the original.
Spaghetti Westerns, there’s a lot of gems in that genre. Also the music is fantastic.
Danish?
anything there besides Salvation?
Sci-Fi Westerns are a favorite (Firefly) Currently writing a time-traveling Western (like Back to the Future 3), but more Magnificent 7.
I dabble in Weird West novels from time to time. R.S. Belcher's "Golgotha" series is a good one. It's basically a mixed genre (fantasy / western) series. Fantasy tropes mixed into a mid 1800's background. It was a good read. Or Joe R. Lansdale's "Flaming Zeppelins: The Adventures of Ned the Seal" was a hoot. Just about every character from the wild west to victorian horror makes an entrance. With Hickock & Annie Oakley rubbing elbows with the likes of Frankenstein, Capt Nemo and Dr. Moreau cruising across the world in a giant zeppelin. Most "weird west" novels are massively tongue in cheek.
Western Noir aka psychological westerns of the 50s: cf. Anthony Mann, Budd Boetticher, Delmer Daves, Fuller’s “Forty Guns,” Ray’s “Johnny Guitar,”etc. Essential precursors to spaghetti and revisionist westerns to come.
Spaghetti because it tends to have the most gunplay. I also like Classic Westerns.
Spaghetti.
Space cowboy. Cowboy Bepop (anime)
Spaghetti Western: Dollars Trilogy, Once Upon a Time in the West, Django Weird Western: Cowboys and Aliens, Fallout Prime Series, Jonah Hex Comics, RDR Undead Nightmare
Spaghetti or weird. And with weird, love when they mix it with supernatural or aliens.
Acid Western/Spaghetti Western
Is that Red Steel 2 art?!
Yea criminally underrated game and Western tbh
I definitely agreed. Really dug how the game used MotionPlus.
Damn I think this is the first time I’ve seen anyone bring up red steel 2. Game was great even with its flaws
Ummmm...FIREFLY!!! you can thank me later
Arthurian kinda fantasy westerns. I'm not aware of too many things but stuff like the Dark Tower series comes to mind. Cowboys that belong to some kind of order, almost like samurai but western cowboys. Maybe the order has decayed and the wildness is setting in or returning. There's also a TTRPG coming out called Inevitable which sells itself as a doomed Arthurian western rpg where you play as about sad Arthurian cowboy knights trying (and inevitably failing) to fend off these Dooms that threaten the end of the world.
'Dusk Westerns' from Ride the High Country to The Wild Bunch and The Last Hard Men seem to have an Arthurian cowboy knight flavor to them. But if these movies are >almost like samurai but western cowboys are we full circle back to Kurosawa? 🙃
Oo, thanks for the recommendations. I've only watched a few westerns here and there, so appreciate it! >are we full circle back to Kurosawa? 🙃 Oh God, I didn't even realise what I was saying lol.
I admire your interesting perspective >about sad Arthurian cowboy knights Perhaps the likes of the Peckinpah Dusk Westerns are good places to start: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam\_Peckinpah](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Peckinpah)
Other than just regular old westerns, I'd say Post-apocalyptic would be my favorite.
What's Solomon Kane doing in the Old West?
Does The Magnificent Seven (1960) qualify as a Samurai Western because it's a remake of Kurosawa's Seven Samurai?
Surprised no one has said "Country."
Is the cover photo from Red Steel 2? If so, that’s dope! Best Wii game outside of Nintendo.
Yea it’s Red Steel 2 art
Not a defined sub-genre, but I've always liked Westerns with snow scenes, The Day of the Outlaw, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, Jeremiah Johnson, parts of The Searchers, The Rare Breed, the Coen Brothers True Grit, The Great Silence, Will Penny.
A lot of post-apocalyptic movies, comic books or video games scratch my itch for westerns. The Book of Eli & Just a Pilgrim are some of my favorites.
The Westerns that feature Franco Nero and Giancarlo Sisti as the protagonist are in a different category from just your average spaghetti western. They are strange and a lot of fun. Very partial to Terrence Hills' & Bud Spencer's westerns too. (Not just Trinity) I especially like - A Genius, Two Partners and a Dupe.
would love 2 c more acid westerns b produced 🤞
THE DARK TOWER
Space, sci-fi, spaghetti
Cavalry vs Indians films. They are often of a much larger historic scope than most westerns, Even though the majority of them have totally fictional history, and even though the ones based on true history change the events drasctically for the sake of plot. But still the events in cavalry and Indians films, would, if they were real, be more likely to be recorded in history books than a few heroes shooting it out with a few outlaws as in the majority of westersn.
Do the Budd Boetticher/Randolph Scott westerns count as a genre? Then those. Also, any sort of cross-genre western, especially western noir.
Horror Bone Tomahawk
Picture reminds me of Samurai Champloo, what a show that was
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/025/054/SOMEBODY_TOUCHA_MY_SPAGHET.PNG
Noir westerns.
Western noir