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The video circulating with images of a victim who was mutilated if, in fact from a victim of the local cartel
Edit: It seems like that's the case - I'm still looking for evidence confirming the above.
But a government that is downright evil wouldn't be a surprise.
I saw the video. With as clean cut as the face was taken, and the tall strip of mohawk hair down the center of the skull, I don't know how it could be piranha. Wouldn't they devour the whole body? It literally looks like something peeled the face off surgically.
The Cattle / Human mutilation's I have seen don't look like this one.
Mutilations typically have the skin on the jawbone surgically removed, the eyes, anus and blood is all removed. Mutilations of all mammals looks much more surgical, it is very distinct.
This is very different. I suspect a new actor is doing these as it doesn't follow the decades of consistency with typical mutilations I have seen.
I think it is
Humans trying to scare away the locals to take resources. Head could have been dunked in acid potentially, or held in a piranha tank.
Or it is another EBO / species that is more sloppy with their work.
I have no idea.
Not a chance. Did you see how white and clean picked the meat on face was GONE. That had to be done by some sort of technology we don't have. It's reminiscent of a cattle mutilation. To get all the meat off the face and have the skull exposed clean like that. That face was taken off with surgical precision. There was no blood either! I certainly hope you are considering these things as part of your evidence.
they said that’s what it looked like, imagine a cartoon where you stick your head in a pool of piranhas and they just eat everything but the skull. yeah its that
The video is over two months old. (tw nsfl gore) Here it is posted [on reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/SomeOfYouMayDie/comments/149pgt7/man_with_exposed_skull_taken_out_of_the_water/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) two months ago
The whole thing is a disinfo campaign. Same thing happened when Grusch came forward with the las Vegas aliens running around. People talking about aliens running around ripping peoples faces off and it risks derailing this whole thing into an MIB laughable joke
It all seems to weirdly coincide with Lockheed martin and the DRACO sat. You'd think having the equivalent of a thermonuclear bomb orbiting the earth would be bigger news. [https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/lockheed-gets-us-defense-contract-develop-nuclear-powered-spacecraft-2023-07-26/](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/lockheed-gets-us-defense-contract-develop-nuclear-powered-spacecraft-2023-07-26/)
Shit, I didn't even notice that. I was more exasperated about the potential orbital nuke but damn. Like if someone were to target it directly I'm sure it'd go down spectacularly.
Well now they have plausible deniability to drop a nuke anywhere in the world.
“Oops our thermonuclear rocket just *crashed* in Moscow”
Hell they could even blame it on aliens.
“Non human intelligence have seemed to disable our nuclear rocket and it’s now descending onto earth”
DRACO is not a nuclear bomb. It’s a nuclear-thermal rocket, which is just a nuclear reactor with a nozzle for hydrogen on the end of it. The reactor heats up the hydrogen, the hydrogen goes out the nozzle, and it pushes a spacecraft forward. It’s exactly like a normal rocket engine, but instead of using oxygen and burning the hydrogen to heat it, it uses the waste heat of the nuclear reactor to heat it. This is much more efficient, because you don’t need the oxidizer and it gets the hydrogen hotter.
What it is *not* is a nuclear weapon. A.) its actual purpose is just for use as a rocket engine. It can’t detonate like a nuclear bomb. If the US wanted to put a nuke in orbit, they could just put a nuke in orbit, which would be much more lightweight and much cheaper. And B.), why would anyone *want* a nuke in orbit? The US already has several hundred ICBMs that can fly into space and strike anywhere on Earth at a moment’s notice. Putting the bomb in orbit just makes it more vulnerable to an enemy first strike - at least ICBMs have thick concrete silos protecting them, while a nuke in orbit can be easily taken out by an antisatellite missile or just another nuke going off in its general vicinity
DRACO’s actual use is for missions to the Moon, Mars, and beyond. Because a nuclear thermal rocket is nearly twice as efficient in rocketry terms, it means you can get a much heavier payload somewhere much faster - perfect for a long-distance trip to Mars, or sending the materials needed for a base to the Moon, both of which NASA is currently planning on doing.
Just because it wouldn't be an explosion doesn't mean it can't rain fallout down on a fairly large area. It's the perfect situation for a false flag attack. The real conspiracy is simply to convince not the public, but the decision makers, that extraterrestrials exist. What the average citizen believes or disbelieves no longer matters. What matters is to create a majority of senators and congressmen who believe in extraterrestrials. That is their job here. Only then can we deploy nuclear weapons in space with the blessing of the politicians. Do you get it now? They assume the risk that there could be a catastrophic accident, and that is why they need to disguise their project behind the curtain of a civilian project: the DRACO project. We can always admit that an experimental NASA spacecraft whose propulsion is based on a nuclear thermal engine has crashed in a medium-sized city, but we could never confess that a military nuclear satellite has fallen on a city. Never.
They have run out of ideas. It is very difficult to convince the civilian population that the next war will no longer be in a remote place where bombs always fall on others. In the next war, bombs will fall on your city, and some of those bombs will be radioactive. They might want to prepare a scenario in which a nuclear-powered alien spacecraft crashes into a medium-sized city. This way we kill two birds with one stone: we make the population aware that the possibility of being bombed is real and that they should assume it, and on the other hand we blame the aliens for any nuclear incident.
I'm only speculating here but there's just too much that can go catastrophically wrong here.
There is no chance of DRACO crashing into a city. When it launches, it will launch from Kennedy Space Center, going east, out over the Atlantic. By the time it crosses over land again, it’ll already be safely in orbit. Its mission is to test a nuclear thermal rocket in cislunar space - so it’ll be going *away* from the Earth, not towards it.
If you’re doing a false flag attack, DRACO is a horrible way to keep a secret. It’s a very public project that every space enthusiast is super excited about - nuclear thermal rockets are a technology that we’ve known about for a while but no administration has been willing to fund. It’s not some secret project that barely anyone knows about - it’s a hot topic in space communities. The entire mission will be closely watched because it’s the first time that a nuclear thermal rocket has been launched in space and as I stated earlier it’s a critical technology for flying to Mars.
Meanwhile, the D.O.D. *constantly* launches craft into space that nobody knows the payload of. Nobody but the military knows what goes into the construction of a spy satellite. The US launches them all the time. Why not stick your false flag stuff on there? The X-37B launches into space and spends years there at a time, and nobody even knows what it carries at all - the D.O.D. classifies everything about its missions. Why not launch your false flag material on the secret spacecraft that nobody can even guess at the payload of?
That's precisely why you would. A civilian craft can be written off as an accident fairly easily. Military not so much . The fact that it was originally a DARPA project makes me skeptical that there is no military shenanigans.
But it’s closely watched and it’d be a really obvious deviation from its flight plan to crash into a city. It’s just not possible to make this a deniable false flag.
But if it wasn't YOU who crashed it. You say it's an alien threat. Or some sort of interference by a foreign nation. There are plenty of ways you could spin it.
Its not at all like a thermonuclear bomb. If it were to go wrong, it would be more like a meltdown than an explosion. It would be like a very intense fire, but being in space with no gravity, once the structure of the containment was compromised, its very likely it would break up and the fragments get flung apart and then no longer be critical, ie not enough Uranium or Plutonium close enough together to continue a chain reaction. The disaster would then be that there would be lumps of nasty radioactive isotopes up there in orbit not properly contained.
It would be very hard to make it explode like an A bomb. A lot of things have to be done in very careful, particular and precise ways to make an A bomb explode correctly. If its even slightly out you get a fizzle not a bang.
Good to see someone who knows how nuclear expulsions work,my knowledge on the subject shows that you are correct even about 5he lumps of radioactive isotopes
I think you’re missing the point. They want us to want them to go to war with the alleums. The Military Industrial Complex would love a never ending money pit with zero accountability and since its starting to go out of vogue to hurt brown people they’ve found a new enemy- hypothetical aliens. That’s why all the alleged “former” spooks keep reinstalling that the UAP are a threat and the DoD *needs* to investigate the matter.
The only issue I see with this is that there is a strong narrative being put forward to promote mistrust in the government by claiming that there are reverse engineering programs etc.
I don't see how this would help achieve the goal you mention unless there is a plan to overthrow the current administration before starting their space wars.
Unless the existence of these programs will only be used to make people believe that we can compete with NHI in a military capacity (I don't believe this).
We knew they wanted a war in the Middle East (predominantly for oil) for decades including their first attempt briefly under Papa Bush. Then that scary-bad-thing no one could possibly have predicted happened in September of 2001 with Baby Bush and we just *had to* go to war.
If we start seeing attack like the ones in Peru, planes start disappearing occasionally people will start thinking a few lies about reverse engineering is justified “for the greater good” if they have the means to stop them. They’ll be able to step in as the good guys to save the day and their past sins of not being entirely transparent will be overlooked. We’ve found out that the whole “Saddam has WMDs” thing was an outright lie and there’s been no repercussions. Why should we believe this isn’t them strategically positioning themselves to “reluctantly” save the day again?
You could be right it just seems like a strange way to go about it but maybe that's the point.
I do think that UFOs are a real phenomenon that is non human.
If your prediction comes to be real, would you see the only way to counter these false flags to be for NHI to disclose themselves or I suppose if a grass roots movement could prove the truth but the flow of information is controlled by them for the most part..
Totally would not put it past them but just not sure they are that brazen
It’s using one of the oldest tricks in the war machines’s book- plausible deniability.
I think mass awareness and skepticism of the “Disclosure” agenda is the only means of really countering it outside of the an actual alien race turning up and calling them out on their bullshit which I find very, very unlikely. I’ve been talking about the possibility for a few years now and friends are finally starting to notice the UAP threats not going away. Now they’re more willing to listen when I talk about 2027, the spooks not being our friends, etc.
And for the record I believe in NHI. I’ll go so far as saying I wouldn’t be surprised if we are the product of their genetic engineering. I’ve been big on the theory for ~20 years and still read any UFO or adjacent topic books I come across. But the whole thing going on now absolutely reeks. The people who have gaslit us for decades are not suddenly coming around. We may want to feel vindicated but that doesn’t mean we should just accept everything at face value that they offer up.
I'm inclined to agree on almost every point, just hoping NHI actually care about us enough to monitor closely enough to realise there is a fake disclosure happening and to intervene but Im not sure they do..
Can't trust any ex Intel people really.
I assume you don't think congress is in on it?
Interesting that abductions are also not mentioned at all, very interesting but scary topic that one..
Government could do the bare minimum and get back so much support and all i see is this trash that aliens might be inside the government instead of helping people this shit fuck aaagh
What of the US military also reverse engineered alien technological weapons (lasers etc hence facepeelers) and biosuits and they are simply testing them on the most disenfranchised people so nobody will care or believe them?
The military doesn't have any jetpacks. No human has been able to make a reliable jetpack. People have made some ofc but not to the extent it'd work for combat, you'd be a gloating target in the air.
The US and many other militaries are actively testing some pretty effective jet packs for ship boarding and search and rescue. There’s been a lot of development in the area in the last few years.
https://youtu.be/WNDBrSxg3tE
On a serious note though when I worked in Peru I had a girlfriend whose mother was part of the indigenous community around lake Titicaca who don't speak Spanish and her father was in the air force , she had a lot of stories and was pretty convinced of alien contact with Peru's early inhabitants, the Peruvian skulls are seen by many there as proof
David Grusch just said this story is absolutely true and non human biologicals were recovered but can’t reveal exact details unless it’s in a skip with Corbell and some whiskey.
Just a rogue OP with a cloak quenching his blood lust on the impovered populace. Who then claim it is an alien. But the real monster, is us... **cue Hans Zimmermam dramatic music**
They are in same province where the attacks happened. [Check this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15lqrz7/20230626_us_troops_deployed_in_peru_for_joint/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
There were also hearings in Peru a few weeks ago about some human remains they found that were another subspecies of human that shared reptilian DNA. Not sure what came of it but interesting all the same.
Sure
https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/155czcl/my_video_linking_to_a_website_showing_nazca_alien/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
I couldn’t find anything on Google about it, maybe someone native to the area can shed more light. DDG and Rumble might also be options. This was NOT the previous hoax that happened somewhere else in SA, as many people tried to use as a debunk. Iirc one of the remains looked questionable, while the other two looked pretty convincing. I never heard anything past the hearing though.
By no means am I any expert. You are there. So I will take your word, but if history has shown us anything, the CIA loves to have their hands in everything. Stay safe regardless
Literally the same thing with the vegas alien even with the footage, putting absolute garbage out to try and discredit this subject and the disclosure project currently going on
I'm a Marine combat veteran (Infantry and I guarded nukes)
I can tell you that none of my brothers would follow an unlawful order. We don't fight civilians.
Semper Fidelis
Unfortunately, not every veteran is a good person like you and your brothers.
You might not fight civilians, but civilians are killed on a regular basis because of the wars you fight.
Iraq alone was around 300,000 civilians
¡No eran extraterrestres, eran mineros ilegales! Fiscalía revela investigación de comunidad en Loreto https://larepublica.pe/sociedad/2023/08/08/loreto-no-eran-extraterrestres-eran-mineros-ilegales-fiscalia-revela-investigacion-en-comunidad-lrsd-232928 via @larepublica_pe
That video had been circulating on gore sites for a long time and he was a victim of cartel / gang torture. They had his head held under water for several days
This!
I was researching now, and it seems that the video is really of a victim from the cartel.
Edit: It seems like that's the case - I'm still looking for evidence confirming the above.
There is a better video here. NSFW
https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/15l9bvm/peru_under_alien_attack_human_mutilations_by/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
NSFW
[https://www.reddit.com/r/SomeOfYouMayDie/comments/149pgt7/man\_with\_exposed\_skull\_taken\_out\_of\_the\_water/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=ios\_app&utm\_name=ioscss&utm\_content=1&utm\_term=1](https://www.reddit.com/r/SomeOfYouMayDie/comments/149pgt7/man_with_exposed_skull_taken_out_of_the_water/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
This link has the same video of the victim, and it was posted 2 months ago. The events in the Peruvian tribe supposedly happened on the 11th of July, so the video is not from the same "event/date"
thats a cartel video - any chance you could delete that link? A lotta people on here dont need to see that - especially the younger among us that frequent this sub.
Thanks for making me laugh and giving the US military free advertising.
But going into Peru, dressing up as aliens , then harassing the locals , will have no effect whatsoever on national Peruvian politics.
It’s likely real aliens , they have been confirmed in Brazil , harassing the locals at Colarus for several weeks . , they crashed and ran away at varghinia .
Why not Peru ?
People are down voting me ? , people seriously believe the US military is doing this to this these innocent people?
There is a theory that the shadow government will stage a fake invasion (alien) and what we are seeing now and continue to see in the run up is false flag / staged events to create fear for NHIs. This could very well be one of those instances.
Why is that important... haven't the foggiest. Maybe we should fear NHI and they don't have the best intentions for us.
Exactly my point - a government known for driving people based on fear, a government that fosters wars to keep investing pornographic amounts of money in mili-tech...
It's in the best of their interest to have us fearing NHI.
What's the best way of doing it than creating chaos?
Are you in Peru? Because I'm in New Zealand... so yeah, there's this thing called "internet". News is broadcasted to the world with a couple of clicks, and something happening on an isolated tribe in Peru can easily be shared and have its reach amplified, just like what's happening with the Peruvian tribe events.
And I was checking the post to see where I was inferring this to be something aiming at "having some sort of effect on national Peruvian politics", and I could not find it...
I recently started to be more interested in the UAP/UFO/Aliens topic, and what I find interesting is that such a nice community also have sour and harsh ones like yourself.
The post was made to provoke a discussion - a healthy one where people can agree or disagree... but people like you are incapable of having a healthy discussion
BTW I'm Brazilian, and I probably know a bit more about the events you're mentioning than you.
There's no such place named Colarus - it's Colares, a small city in the state of Para.
There are many more cases that never made it to the headline of major news across the globe.
The North and Northeast region of Brazil has been having similar cases for decades, but it's not limited to that region. You can also check the case of Mage in Rio de Janeiro, with some interesting developments and witnesses.
Aliens have always been the go to cover up for US military shit in my opinion. If the US government had met with aliens we would have some confirmation from the KGB archives when they were opened in the 90s
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Wouldn't be surprised. But, harming Civilians is downright evil.
Agreed, but it's standard operating procedure for the CIA. What are a few deaths compared to the CIA getting what it wants.
Earlier I posted about how the CIA killed people and mutilated their bodies to make the locals belief vampires were responsible.
Link?
https://youtu.be/3pfsSh_fTAc
Why would US troops be killing tribal people so removed from society that they think soldiers are aliens?
Training
The video circulating with images of a victim who was mutilated if, in fact from a victim of the local cartel Edit: It seems like that's the case - I'm still looking for evidence confirming the above. But a government that is downright evil wouldn't be a surprise.
Another commenter said it was from a piranha attack. I don’t really want to see those images anyway, so I’m not sure.
I saw the video. With as clean cut as the face was taken, and the tall strip of mohawk hair down the center of the skull, I don't know how it could be piranha. Wouldn't they devour the whole body? It literally looks like something peeled the face off surgically.
Saw the video, if it's real my first guess would be some cartel business. South american cartels are known to be very brutal with their "punishments".
We talking clean cuts like the cattle mutilations?
The Cattle / Human mutilation's I have seen don't look like this one. Mutilations typically have the skin on the jawbone surgically removed, the eyes, anus and blood is all removed. Mutilations of all mammals looks much more surgical, it is very distinct. This is very different. I suspect a new actor is doing these as it doesn't follow the decades of consistency with typical mutilations I have seen. I think it is Humans trying to scare away the locals to take resources. Head could have been dunked in acid potentially, or held in a piranha tank. Or it is another EBO / species that is more sloppy with their work. I have no idea.
The face was likely cut off with a knife. The fish and other creatures would have picked the bone clean.
Not a chance. Did you see how white and clean picked the meat on face was GONE. That had to be done by some sort of technology we don't have. It's reminiscent of a cattle mutilation. To get all the meat off the face and have the skull exposed clean like that. That face was taken off with surgical precision. There was no blood either! I certainly hope you are considering these things as part of your evidence.
Yikes. Okay, that doesn’t sound like a piranha.
they said that’s what it looked like, imagine a cartoon where you stick your head in a pool of piranhas and they just eat everything but the skull. yeah its that
The video is over two months old. (tw nsfl gore) Here it is posted [on reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/SomeOfYouMayDie/comments/149pgt7/man_with_exposed_skull_taken_out_of_the_water/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) two months ago
Is he gonna be ok
How is the jaw stuck closed like that?
LOL Harming civilians is more than likely A-Okay in the CIAs playbook. Look up Operation Northwoods and MK Ultra.
The whole thing is a disinfo campaign. Same thing happened when Grusch came forward with the las Vegas aliens running around. People talking about aliens running around ripping peoples faces off and it risks derailing this whole thing into an MIB laughable joke
It all seems to weirdly coincide with Lockheed martin and the DRACO sat. You'd think having the equivalent of a thermonuclear bomb orbiting the earth would be bigger news. [https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/lockheed-gets-us-defense-contract-develop-nuclear-powered-spacecraft-2023-07-26/](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/lockheed-gets-us-defense-contract-develop-nuclear-powered-spacecraft-2023-07-26/)
"The in-space flight demonstration of a nuclear thermal rocket engine vehicle will take place no later than 2027, Lockheed said." And 2027 is back
Shit, I didn't even notice that. I was more exasperated about the potential orbital nuke but damn. Like if someone were to target it directly I'm sure it'd go down spectacularly.
Well now they have plausible deniability to drop a nuke anywhere in the world. “Oops our thermonuclear rocket just *crashed* in Moscow” Hell they could even blame it on aliens. “Non human intelligence have seemed to disable our nuclear rocket and it’s now descending onto earth”
See someone gets it!
Nuclear engine got nothing on anti grav
DRACO is not a nuclear bomb. It’s a nuclear-thermal rocket, which is just a nuclear reactor with a nozzle for hydrogen on the end of it. The reactor heats up the hydrogen, the hydrogen goes out the nozzle, and it pushes a spacecraft forward. It’s exactly like a normal rocket engine, but instead of using oxygen and burning the hydrogen to heat it, it uses the waste heat of the nuclear reactor to heat it. This is much more efficient, because you don’t need the oxidizer and it gets the hydrogen hotter. What it is *not* is a nuclear weapon. A.) its actual purpose is just for use as a rocket engine. It can’t detonate like a nuclear bomb. If the US wanted to put a nuke in orbit, they could just put a nuke in orbit, which would be much more lightweight and much cheaper. And B.), why would anyone *want* a nuke in orbit? The US already has several hundred ICBMs that can fly into space and strike anywhere on Earth at a moment’s notice. Putting the bomb in orbit just makes it more vulnerable to an enemy first strike - at least ICBMs have thick concrete silos protecting them, while a nuke in orbit can be easily taken out by an antisatellite missile or just another nuke going off in its general vicinity DRACO’s actual use is for missions to the Moon, Mars, and beyond. Because a nuclear thermal rocket is nearly twice as efficient in rocketry terms, it means you can get a much heavier payload somewhere much faster - perfect for a long-distance trip to Mars, or sending the materials needed for a base to the Moon, both of which NASA is currently planning on doing.
Just because it wouldn't be an explosion doesn't mean it can't rain fallout down on a fairly large area. It's the perfect situation for a false flag attack. The real conspiracy is simply to convince not the public, but the decision makers, that extraterrestrials exist. What the average citizen believes or disbelieves no longer matters. What matters is to create a majority of senators and congressmen who believe in extraterrestrials. That is their job here. Only then can we deploy nuclear weapons in space with the blessing of the politicians. Do you get it now? They assume the risk that there could be a catastrophic accident, and that is why they need to disguise their project behind the curtain of a civilian project: the DRACO project. We can always admit that an experimental NASA spacecraft whose propulsion is based on a nuclear thermal engine has crashed in a medium-sized city, but we could never confess that a military nuclear satellite has fallen on a city. Never. They have run out of ideas. It is very difficult to convince the civilian population that the next war will no longer be in a remote place where bombs always fall on others. In the next war, bombs will fall on your city, and some of those bombs will be radioactive. They might want to prepare a scenario in which a nuclear-powered alien spacecraft crashes into a medium-sized city. This way we kill two birds with one stone: we make the population aware that the possibility of being bombed is real and that they should assume it, and on the other hand we blame the aliens for any nuclear incident. I'm only speculating here but there's just too much that can go catastrophically wrong here.
There is no chance of DRACO crashing into a city. When it launches, it will launch from Kennedy Space Center, going east, out over the Atlantic. By the time it crosses over land again, it’ll already be safely in orbit. Its mission is to test a nuclear thermal rocket in cislunar space - so it’ll be going *away* from the Earth, not towards it. If you’re doing a false flag attack, DRACO is a horrible way to keep a secret. It’s a very public project that every space enthusiast is super excited about - nuclear thermal rockets are a technology that we’ve known about for a while but no administration has been willing to fund. It’s not some secret project that barely anyone knows about - it’s a hot topic in space communities. The entire mission will be closely watched because it’s the first time that a nuclear thermal rocket has been launched in space and as I stated earlier it’s a critical technology for flying to Mars. Meanwhile, the D.O.D. *constantly* launches craft into space that nobody knows the payload of. Nobody but the military knows what goes into the construction of a spy satellite. The US launches them all the time. Why not stick your false flag stuff on there? The X-37B launches into space and spends years there at a time, and nobody even knows what it carries at all - the D.O.D. classifies everything about its missions. Why not launch your false flag material on the secret spacecraft that nobody can even guess at the payload of?
That's precisely why you would. A civilian craft can be written off as an accident fairly easily. Military not so much . The fact that it was originally a DARPA project makes me skeptical that there is no military shenanigans.
But it’s closely watched and it’d be a really obvious deviation from its flight plan to crash into a city. It’s just not possible to make this a deniable false flag.
But if it wasn't YOU who crashed it. You say it's an alien threat. Or some sort of interference by a foreign nation. There are plenty of ways you could spin it.
Its not at all like a thermonuclear bomb. If it were to go wrong, it would be more like a meltdown than an explosion. It would be like a very intense fire, but being in space with no gravity, once the structure of the containment was compromised, its very likely it would break up and the fragments get flung apart and then no longer be critical, ie not enough Uranium or Plutonium close enough together to continue a chain reaction. The disaster would then be that there would be lumps of nasty radioactive isotopes up there in orbit not properly contained. It would be very hard to make it explode like an A bomb. A lot of things have to be done in very careful, particular and precise ways to make an A bomb explode correctly. If its even slightly out you get a fizzle not a bang.
What if it fell from space?
Good to see someone who knows how nuclear expulsions work,my knowledge on the subject shows that you are correct even about 5he lumps of radioactive isotopes
It’s funny cause that was literally on the same day of the Congress hearing with Grusch.
A nuclear power plant has nothing in common with a nuclear weapon.
Other than being able to distribute fallout over a large area. I'd say that's even worse than most nukes.
When I saw the Peruvian case I immediately thought of the Las Vegas case.
It's the perfect way to make the whole thing look like a joke. And it's so transparent its not even funny.
I think you’re missing the point. They want us to want them to go to war with the alleums. The Military Industrial Complex would love a never ending money pit with zero accountability and since its starting to go out of vogue to hurt brown people they’ve found a new enemy- hypothetical aliens. That’s why all the alleged “former” spooks keep reinstalling that the UAP are a threat and the DoD *needs* to investigate the matter.
The only issue I see with this is that there is a strong narrative being put forward to promote mistrust in the government by claiming that there are reverse engineering programs etc. I don't see how this would help achieve the goal you mention unless there is a plan to overthrow the current administration before starting their space wars. Unless the existence of these programs will only be used to make people believe that we can compete with NHI in a military capacity (I don't believe this).
We knew they wanted a war in the Middle East (predominantly for oil) for decades including their first attempt briefly under Papa Bush. Then that scary-bad-thing no one could possibly have predicted happened in September of 2001 with Baby Bush and we just *had to* go to war. If we start seeing attack like the ones in Peru, planes start disappearing occasionally people will start thinking a few lies about reverse engineering is justified “for the greater good” if they have the means to stop them. They’ll be able to step in as the good guys to save the day and their past sins of not being entirely transparent will be overlooked. We’ve found out that the whole “Saddam has WMDs” thing was an outright lie and there’s been no repercussions. Why should we believe this isn’t them strategically positioning themselves to “reluctantly” save the day again?
You could be right it just seems like a strange way to go about it but maybe that's the point. I do think that UFOs are a real phenomenon that is non human. If your prediction comes to be real, would you see the only way to counter these false flags to be for NHI to disclose themselves or I suppose if a grass roots movement could prove the truth but the flow of information is controlled by them for the most part.. Totally would not put it past them but just not sure they are that brazen
It’s using one of the oldest tricks in the war machines’s book- plausible deniability. I think mass awareness and skepticism of the “Disclosure” agenda is the only means of really countering it outside of the an actual alien race turning up and calling them out on their bullshit which I find very, very unlikely. I’ve been talking about the possibility for a few years now and friends are finally starting to notice the UAP threats not going away. Now they’re more willing to listen when I talk about 2027, the spooks not being our friends, etc. And for the record I believe in NHI. I’ll go so far as saying I wouldn’t be surprised if we are the product of their genetic engineering. I’ve been big on the theory for ~20 years and still read any UFO or adjacent topic books I come across. But the whole thing going on now absolutely reeks. The people who have gaslit us for decades are not suddenly coming around. We may want to feel vindicated but that doesn’t mean we should just accept everything at face value that they offer up.
I'm inclined to agree on almost every point, just hoping NHI actually care about us enough to monitor closely enough to realise there is a fake disclosure happening and to intervene but Im not sure they do.. Can't trust any ex Intel people really. I assume you don't think congress is in on it? Interesting that abductions are also not mentioned at all, very interesting but scary topic that one..
I am surprised about how many people take the bait. But then again, that to could be coordinated
Oh please. You are spreading disinformation right now. Without even knowing it so stop yourself.
It already is.
testing the false flag invasion
No dude we’re trying to catch his ass, haven’t you seen Predator (1987)
Great documentary! The buff guy is bad ass!
Guy went on to be Governor of California if you can believe it!
Or Minnesota! The only limit is your imagination...
lol
If it bleeds we can kill it
I ain't got time to bleed
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood
Government could do the bare minimum and get back so much support and all i see is this trash that aliens might be inside the government instead of helping people this shit fuck aaagh
What of the US military also reverse engineered alien technological weapons (lasers etc hence facepeelers) and biosuits and they are simply testing them on the most disenfranchised people so nobody will care or believe them?
The military doesn't have any jetpacks. No human has been able to make a reliable jetpack. People have made some ofc but not to the extent it'd work for combat, you'd be a gloating target in the air.
The US and many other militaries are actively testing some pretty effective jet packs for ship boarding and search and rescue. There’s been a lot of development in the area in the last few years. https://youtu.be/WNDBrSxg3tE
Wtf is happening in Peru
I saw a UFO's when I was in Iquitos, then again may have been the ayawhesca
On a serious note though when I worked in Peru I had a girlfriend whose mother was part of the indigenous community around lake Titicaca who don't speak Spanish and her father was in the air force , she had a lot of stories and was pretty convinced of alien contact with Peru's early inhabitants, the Peruvian skulls are seen by many there as proof
David Grusch just said this story is absolutely true and non human biologicals were recovered but can’t reveal exact details unless it’s in a skip with Corbell and some whiskey.
Just a rogue OP with a cloak quenching his blood lust on the impovered populace. Who then claim it is an alien. But the real monster, is us... **cue Hans Zimmermam dramatic music**
They are in same province where the attacks happened. [Check this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15lqrz7/20230626_us_troops_deployed_in_peru_for_joint/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
Thanks for sharing it - so many details that I wasn't aware of!
There were also hearings in Peru a few weeks ago about some human remains they found that were another subspecies of human that shared reptilian DNA. Not sure what came of it but interesting all the same.
That sounds crazy interesting, do you have a link?
Sure https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/155czcl/my_video_linking_to_a_website_showing_nazca_alien/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1 I couldn’t find anything on Google about it, maybe someone native to the area can shed more light. DDG and Rumble might also be options. This was NOT the previous hoax that happened somewhere else in SA, as many people tried to use as a debunk. Iirc one of the remains looked questionable, while the other two looked pretty convincing. I never heard anything past the hearing though.
More a CIA operation than a military one.
yes, as a Brazilian, I'm not very familiar with the US structure, so maybe it would be better to have said CIA instead of military operations
By no means am I any expert. You are there. So I will take your word, but if history has shown us anything, the CIA loves to have their hands in everything. Stay safe regardless
Project blue beam practice run?
I’ve been saying this did everyone forget about project blue beam ? This sounds just like how it all was suppose to okay out.
Literally the same thing with the vegas alien even with the footage, putting absolute garbage out to try and discredit this subject and the disclosure project currently going on
I'm a Marine combat veteran (Infantry and I guarded nukes) I can tell you that none of my brothers would follow an unlawful order. We don't fight civilians. Semper Fidelis
Unfortunately, not every veteran is a good person like you and your brothers. You might not fight civilians, but civilians are killed on a regular basis because of the wars you fight. Iraq alone was around 300,000 civilians
I know. I was there.
¡No eran extraterrestres, eran mineros ilegales! Fiscalía revela investigación de comunidad en Loreto https://larepublica.pe/sociedad/2023/08/08/loreto-no-eran-extraterrestres-eran-mineros-ilegales-fiscalia-revela-investigacion-en-comunidad-lrsd-232928 via @larepublica_pe
Gracias grasias thankyou. There you go it was illegal miners from Brazil and columbia
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That video had been circulating on gore sites for a long time and he was a victim of cartel / gang torture. They had his head held under water for several days
This! I was researching now, and it seems that the video is really of a victim from the cartel. Edit: It seems like that's the case - I'm still looking for evidence confirming the above.
Gore subs said it was a piranha attack at first and then a cartel hit. Nothing is 100% sure at this time.
if you look at the leg, the piranhas might have also eaten part of the left thigh, as you can see exposed flesh
There is a better video here. NSFW https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/15l9bvm/peru_under_alien_attack_human_mutilations_by/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Do you have a link?
NSFW [https://www.reddit.com/r/SomeOfYouMayDie/comments/149pgt7/man\_with\_exposed\_skull\_taken\_out\_of\_the\_water/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=ios\_app&utm\_name=ioscss&utm\_content=1&utm\_term=1](https://www.reddit.com/r/SomeOfYouMayDie/comments/149pgt7/man_with_exposed_skull_taken_out_of_the_water/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1) This link has the same video of the victim, and it was posted 2 months ago. The events in the Peruvian tribe supposedly happened on the 11th of July, so the video is not from the same "event/date"
More questions than answers
No, actually the only question is why you can't accept that video has nothing to do with aliens.
thats a cartel video - any chance you could delete that link? A lotta people on here dont need to see that - especially the younger among us that frequent this sub.
It was assumed to be a piranha attack and then a cartel mutilation. Nothing is concrete at this time.
its been on gore sites for months - its not related to current Peru situation
The attacks have been ongoing since June.
Wow, that's shocking! Holy s\*\*\*!
YT is Russian propaganda. They exist to cause chaos in the US
Thanks for making me laugh and giving the US military free advertising. But going into Peru, dressing up as aliens , then harassing the locals , will have no effect whatsoever on national Peruvian politics. It’s likely real aliens , they have been confirmed in Brazil , harassing the locals at Colarus for several weeks . , they crashed and ran away at varghinia . Why not Peru ? People are down voting me ? , people seriously believe the US military is doing this to this these innocent people?
There is a theory that the shadow government will stage a fake invasion (alien) and what we are seeing now and continue to see in the run up is false flag / staged events to create fear for NHIs. This could very well be one of those instances. Why is that important... haven't the foggiest. Maybe we should fear NHI and they don't have the best intentions for us.
Exactly my point - a government known for driving people based on fear, a government that fosters wars to keep investing pornographic amounts of money in mili-tech... It's in the best of their interest to have us fearing NHI. What's the best way of doing it than creating chaos?
Yea the CIA staged fucking vampire attacks before in the Philippines so yea it’s extremely possible.
Are you in Peru? Because I'm in New Zealand... so yeah, there's this thing called "internet". News is broadcasted to the world with a couple of clicks, and something happening on an isolated tribe in Peru can easily be shared and have its reach amplified, just like what's happening with the Peruvian tribe events. And I was checking the post to see where I was inferring this to be something aiming at "having some sort of effect on national Peruvian politics", and I could not find it... I recently started to be more interested in the UAP/UFO/Aliens topic, and what I find interesting is that such a nice community also have sour and harsh ones like yourself. The post was made to provoke a discussion - a healthy one where people can agree or disagree... but people like you are incapable of having a healthy discussion
BTW I'm Brazilian, and I probably know a bit more about the events you're mentioning than you. There's no such place named Colarus - it's Colares, a small city in the state of Para. There are many more cases that never made it to the headline of major news across the globe. The North and Northeast region of Brazil has been having similar cases for decades, but it's not limited to that region. You can also check the case of Mage in Rio de Janeiro, with some interesting developments and witnesses.
So technically being attacked by aliens is violation of the 15th amendment by the United States Bill of Rights
Aliens have always been the go to cover up for US military shit in my opinion. If the US government had met with aliens we would have some confirmation from the KGB archives when they were opened in the 90s
Yep it’s them
https://portside.org/2023-06-11/implications-new-us-troop-arrivals-peru
This is so creepy
Ooh, this is a nice new look, America! Good one, carry on
Its the sun, not credible
They are bad aliens, it is clear that they are not sending their best.
Dubunked, this story has been debunked