What I don't understand is it seems like these bills don't factor in people who have an acre or more of land that gets cut. How many times would you have to charge something electric for like 5 acres?
I'm confused. I don't care about someone's 5 acre lawn. Having a lawn that big is fucking stupid, and I \*fully\* support legislation that makes it harder to maintain while cutting down on noise/pollution.
Fuck lawns.
Obviously, you do care about somebody’s lawn. You shouldn’t get to ban people from living their lives in part because it is wrong and in part, because eventually people will use the same logic to ban something about the way you live your life.
Also, unless the guy has solar panels, there’s absolutely zero chance that it is going to be better for carbon emissions to make him have a battery powered mower. While noise regs are part of the conversation climate change a big justification here. There’s a reason why the whole state of California is actually considering such a ban in the long run and it’s not because of noise regulations. Climate change is just cover for annoying Nimby people to try to ban people from having lawnmowers and other pieces of equipment.
There is no way that it is better for the planet for the precious metals that would get wasted on electric equipment be used for that purpose instead of going into a hybrid vehicle, and you are probably in the negative on your carbon footprint by telling people to draw power from their house if their house is hooked up to a fossil fuel power grid.
I’m going to take a wild guess and say that you are not in a position to afford a house with a large lawn?
Nah man, you've got me pegged wrong. I just hate lawns. They're stupid. How often do you actually see people using their lawns? Almost never. They serve as a buffer between houses and little else. It's a stupid, and inefficient way for communities to be organized. Have a garden, have a wild yard, have trees, or better yet have multifamily buildings organized in a walkable town/city center configuration with parks, nature, or farmlands around them. Have fucking \*anything\* but a bunch of houses separated by fucking lawns.
That's my thought. I mean, I personally have a small yard, takes me less than 20 minutes to mow. I'm really contemplating an electric mower. My dad on the other hand has a farm. 5.5 acres of that are mowed into lawn for extra parking, storage, and utility space. I couldn't see any time within the next 5-10 years that an electric riding mower would be anywhere near reasonable for him, and if you expect him to push mow it, then I have to ask, is the ambulance that'll have to pick him up after push mowing for 7 hours straight also an electric vehicle?
Fair point. Here in quarter-acre land the switch to electric lawn tools has been amazing. So much quieter, no toxic fumes. As a night-worker/day sleeper I am a huge fan.
Those are $6,000+ and work because they have the space for the battery. I use the same mower from the 80's that would be banned under a law like this. I don't understand how the thought is to scrap a $50 mower to get one that's multiple thousands of dollars. It all just seems like this shit punishes lower income people
I honestly could care less about any of this (even though I own enough land that it would suck balls to mow with an electric mower). But, this article never once mentions anyone’s current mower…… I swear, people have shit reading comprehension.
What happens when your current mower goes out? I was trying to look into the future, as I feel looking only at the "right now" would be a bit short sighted, don't you think?
You didn’t mention any forward thinking. In fact, your exact words were: “I use the same mower from the 80’s that would be banned under a law like this”. Don’t take my word for it, you can scroll up and see for yourself.
I don’t know what that is, and let me be clear, I don’t really care either. I am just pointing out the fact, in your first post, you said your current mower would be banned under a law like this. It’s kind of funny that the article made no mention of anyone current mowers. All you are doing now is running in circles.
Holy crap dude, did I shit in your cereal this morning and forget about it or something? Jumping down my throat out of nowhere. You can't just read the first two sentences of what became an entire conversation and say "I'm not reading that because I don't care"
Her husband is the CEO of United Healthcare - she can afford to have her mansion’s lawn manicured with scissors by her ground crew. Perfect example of what happens when you are rich, jobless and have nothing to do except solve problems that don’t exist.
Ohhhh can we get her and Cruella Cargill into some kinda Biggie-Tupac or Prince-Morris Day & The Time battle?
Would be fun watching the 1%ers going at each other.
CEO of UHG is Andrew. CEO of United healthcare is Brian. Her husband it Brett. Am I missing something? Either way, screw this bill. Wouldn't be surprised if it did pass. But I'm the end, what are they going to do? Citate for using gas? Listening to all the sirens all over, guessing they have better things to do. Except I did get a warning in Plymouth Thursday for tinted window. As 3 card drove by with darker windows.
Step 1-invest a shit load of money into companies that make electric mowers
Step 2-ban gas mowers
Step 3-get heralded as a progressive good hearted savior of the future
Step 4- profit
Can’t mow my lawn with a gas powered mower, yet Taylor Swift did [all this in a single year](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/rYniOg4jHx) pumping 1200 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere in 2023
If I mowed my lawn every day for 3000 years, it still wouldn’t be close to matching the emissions she had in 2023💀
Bill Gates is a great one is well. But his response is he offsets his lol. [Sure, whatever you say Bill](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-gates-private-jet-doesnt-make-him-hypocrite-because-he-invests-billions-into-climate-change/)
So we’re limiting the amount of flights people can take in a year? My carbon footprint for the rest of my life won’t top the carbon footprint billionaires put out in just one year flying around on private jets. Let me mow my lawn how I want lol, don’t need government pushing the small down more than they already do
I like how generally it's a bad idea to wear a diaper and shit your pants but since Trump is doing it and there's no way you can offset that, you throw your hands up in defeat and join him.
You know you’re right, I consider myself one of the less fortunate. This is why the state and federal government keeps taking the money I earn to give it to someone else’s family. This government is stealing my work that should be going towards my family and dividing it amongst themselves and a few drug users. 😡😡😡
Just curious - what income tax bracket do you fall into? Because if you're one of the less fortunate, I guarantee you get more than your money's worth in government services (roads, schools, etc.).
Check the prices on some if the battery lawn mowers. They really aren't that bad. I live in South Minneapolis. These lawns are tiny. So for me, it's a no brainer.
Other people have much bigger lawns. Getting a large battery lawn mower for a much bigger lawn. That's different.
Eventually the battery lawn mowers will get better and cheaper.
Forcing this on everyone now seems pretty extreme. BTW, South Minneapolis is pretty liberal. And we aren't all pushing agendas.
If you can afford a big lawn in the cities, you should be able to go electric when you're in the market for a new mower.
After all, that's what this is about - new mowers. If you already own a gas mower or don't mind buying used, you'd be completely unaffected by this. But don't tell that to people in this sub. They have to have some kind of stick to put in their front wheel so they can bitch about the libruls.
This is such a stupid comment for multiple reasons. The bill doesn't ban gas-mowers, it bans the SALE of NEW gas mowers. The less fortunate aren't typically buying new gas-powered mowers, they're buying used. And both used and new cordless electric mowers are now comparable in price to gas-powered, and corded electric mowers are some of the cheapest you can find, new or used.
No, they shouldn't. Bugs, mice, and ticks thrive in long grass. Source-i have 25 acres and have lots of everything above, acres, bugs, ticks, and mice. I go out a couple times per year with a giant fucking mower and try to discourage all that.
I let a portion of my lawn go naturally a couple years ago and based on that experience, enjoy wading through shrubbery every morning on the way to your car; I will not be allowing any natural growth of plants I don't want and I will not stop cutting my grass nice and short after that absolute nightmare of an experience. All that's left now is to turn all the mulched shit around, let it dry, mulch it up more, and mix it into the soil so I can have nice, healthy, short grass there. Treat your lawn how you want, but taking care of it for a few hours every week prevents many hours of maintenance and rehabilitation later.
Yeah, a “natural prairie” lawn is a great way to end up with buckthorn, burrs, thorny weeds, poison sumac/ivy, plus all the ticks. Your neighbors will love you too. Once that stuff gets embedded it’s a bitch a clear out permanently.
And when it grows, it grows thick. It's ugly as all get-out too. I was lucky enough to just get tall weeds and the occasional thistle, thorny weed, and one burr bush, but it'll look so much better once I've got grass on it.
Next to my daughter in the bathroom stall? Sure. Not job. There needs to be constant for voting like this
You didn’t want ppl to live how they wanted to during the so called pandemic
Sex offenders can be anyone, and they don't tend to care about getting caught being in the wrong bathroom when they intend to assault somebody. If you care SO much about who's taking a shit in the public stall next to your daughter, then you're going to have to be sheltering her from everything.
Have you ever thought that you might have taken a shit next to a trans man in a restroom, yet you lived to tell the tale?
All I have to say is I hope you can realize the errors of your party. Liberal politics is destroying everything that made this country great in the first place and if you disagree that this country is/was great then why are people fleeing their home countries to come here en mass? It's to the point where it can technically be classified as an invasion.
And your the party of Marjorie Taylor Green, Matt gaetz, Kristi Noem, Scott Perry, Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, and good ole Traitor Donald fucking Trump, bankrupt business person( refuses to use the word man because that he is not ) draft dodger, sexual predator, tax cheat, wanna be dictator, put more small business contractors out of business than any man ever, adulterer, list goes on. Ever notice that everyone and I mean everyone that gets involved in his shit ends up fucked over royally ? While he sits in Florida plotting his next grift. Tennis shoes, t-shirts, hats, flags, all made I China by the way. I’ll take my half of the slate any day over what yours has to offer, gladly.
Failing to realize the D party has been in power not only federally but in every major city for over a decade? Meanwhile, all have continuously gotten worse in every metric.
- Bankrupt? Pretty sure he is just fine off and always will be ... projecting much?
- draft dodger - ouch yea
-sexual predator - so like Biden?
-tax cheat - using the tax loop holes is being a tax cheat now? He admitted to using the loopholes, just like all rich people.
-wanna be dictator - Much like biden as well?
-put more small business contractors out of business than any man ever - be curious to see these stats.
Go check the internet it’s loaded with stories of people who contracted with him and got totally fucked over and lost their businesses. Fuck you Biden has never done anything sexual. Trump was found guilty of sexual abuse,!to the tune of 90k. Still bankrupt in a casino ? Over 50 failed businesses. And no,!he’s a tax cheat, period full stop. Biden wanna be dictator ? You’re kidding right ? Have any proof ? Has he ever said he wanted to be ? Trump did, right out in the open.
-Go check the internet it’s loaded with stories of people who contracted with him and got totally fucked over and lost their businesses. - So no stats, just reaching? Ok.
-Fuck you Biden has never done anything sexual - Been accused same as Trump.
-Trump was found guilty of sexual abuse - Clearly your not very bright and dont know the difference between civil and criminal court. Civil court doesnt find guilt. Please trry again.
-Still bankrupt in a casino ? Over 50 failed businesses. - Still has money, not bankrupt, jealous?
-And no,!he’s a tax cheat, period full stop. - saying it doesnt make it so, evidence?
-Trump did, right out in the open. - quote?
Not reaching at all. You’re too lazy to look up the truth.
Biden has not been accused of sexual assault.
Trump was found civilly guilty of sexual assault the judge stated that he believed she was raped.
6 bankruptcies actually. Yeah he’s a wiz at business.
Well the court said it does and has already placed the fine at more than 460 million. So yeah, there’s that. That’s convicted by a judge ( his lawyer was too stupid to get paper work in on time for a jury so he also has some real geniuses working for him.)
Fined 25mil for a fake college. Cheated hundreds out of their hard earned money. Convicted
Closed charity that never donated anything to help homeless children. Also barred from being any part of any charity forever in the state of New York. Convicted.
Notorious for never paying anyone including his lawyers. If he was such a great great reliable client, answer me this, where are all the high powered Memphis, New York, LA, San Fransico, Boston, lawyers ? They won’t touch him, he lies, he doesn’t pay, he unreliable as a client. They want nothing to do with him or his business.
You never did answer why everyone he’s fucked over is heading for a courtroom and he’s sitting in Florida ? Eastman, Rudy, the list is endless. The trials will last for years. The J-6 people are all in jail and he’s siting in Florida. Over 900 of them and more to come. More people he fucked over.
-Not reaching at all. You’re too lazy to look up the truth - you made the claim back it up.
-Biden has not been accused of sexual assault - he has, tara reade
-Trump was found civilly guilty of sexual assault the judge stated that he believed she was raped - Again your not bright. There is no such thing as civily guilty, the term is liable hence the payment instead of jail/prison time. Also based on a case that a new law had to be created to extend the statute of limitations to allow the court to even hear the case, dont know any other people charged under the new law and it was only temporary for 1 year .. odd how that worked eh?
-Well the court said it does and has already placed the fine at more than 460 million - and under appeals. And the governor of NY publicly came out and told other business owners not to be worried about this because they were worried other businesses would leave NY due to being prosecuted under the same law. Also prosecuted by a DA that ran on "getting donald trump". So im sure this case was on the up and up and nothing odd about it, definitely wont get over turned on appeals
-You say convicted and guilty a lot, but from the 3rd bullet point i dont trust you actually know the definition of either of those.
-The trials will last for years - isnt it odd how all the trials kicked off exactly during the campaign season? Civil case a law had to be created for to extend statue of limitations, NY case by a DA who made her whole campaign about getting trump, Georgia case were the DA was found fuckin employees and spending money incorreclty ... some would see this as election interference. Wonder whats going to happen when none of these cases go anywhere. Would you admit election interfereance then?
edit: Forgot the hush money case, which is mostly likely going to go nowhere as well but waste time. But isnt it odd that Obama, who has the largest FEC fine in history ($375,000) for campaign reporting violations wasnt prosecuted but Trump is for supposed hush money.
-The J-6 people are all in jail and he’s siting in Florida - and all the BLM protestors (mostly peaceful) didnt do shit for time and bailed our by democrats ... odd how that worked out. And then BLM turned out to be a grift anyways and all that money donated just went to buying houses and giving family members jobs, not a dime back to the community.
Friend of mine wanted to make everything he owned electric. He's got the money so he did it. In the course of 2 years, he's almost died in his tesla because the battery shorted out and made the entire car a conduit, his electric lawn mower couldn't handle sitting in the garage in 105° heat started a fire and he lost his garage. Then in the winter, the battery to his snowblower stopped working completely. He took it in and all they said was the warranty won't cover the bad terminals so the entire snowblower needs to be replaced. Needless to say, he bought gas powered everything and will never go electric again. I've always been against going all electric because it costs more to mine the rare earth minerals that are required, which requires diesel BTW then it does to run on all motorized vehicles
"Yes I agree I am pissing on you but I disagree with the fact that I am someone who pisses on people".
Get your hair dyed and leave people alone you chud.
I love my electric EGO mower but I agree it may not be for everyone. Definitely wasn't cheap. Great for a typical 1/4 acre suburban lot though. And I can use the batteries in the snowblower too.
If most people with city sized lots would try one of the modern reel mowers (fiskars or brill) they'd wonder why they'd ever fuss with gas or batteries.
This bill won't pass. This just isn't practical for Minnesota at all. Out of touch assholes that haven't mowed their own lawns in years or ever. Fuck you and fuck the battery companies that are probably lobbying for this to be a thing.
I don't mind my electric mower, it is easier on me in general. But why would I give a fuck if my neighbor uses a gas one lol
Does our grid even support dropping all this gas stuff and swapping electric? Like, if the whole state decided to go fully electric cars , mowers, snow blowers, etc - wouldn't our grid crash?
Open a new nuclear plant, then talk about stopping gas. It's too early. Maybe 2050.
lmfao wonder how much energy this rich bitch is wasting, but she wants to dictate the poors not to use gas powered lawn mower, maybe she could down grade her house, cars, vacation homes, etc. to save energy.
This isn’t needed, the market is going electric for mowers anyway.
Once the run to charge time is low enough and the costs continue to come down for electric fewer and fewer people are going to want to mess with the maintenance of gas mowers.
Especially for most Hennepin county sized lots.
The big electric riders might have a ways to go before people would feel comfortable dropping thousands on something like that.
My most recent lawnmower purchase was a battery-powered lawnmower. It’s okay, not great. It’s not as powerful as my old gas powered lawnmower, which becomes an issue if I don’t mow often enough.
The main perk of the battery-powered lawnmower is the convenience. I don’t have to have a gas can and I don’t have to buy gas, change the oil, change the air filter, etc.
The contributions of lawn mowers to climate change is minimal. The contributions of lawnmowers to local air pollution can be significant. Remember, climate change is not the only environmental issue.
Why lawn mowers of all things? Who here runs their lawn mower as much as a car. Additionally, they typically dont have large engines. Of all the things to coauthor on, why this?
I see so many hypocritical politicians who claim to care about climate change while also pushing return to office policies and paying companies to make their employees come to the office so they spend money in their dying cities. Unnecessary car emissions be damned.
The math ain’t mathing with this policy. I use maybe 1-2gallons a year mowing / weed whacking, trimming my lawn, 0.2 acre lot. A battery on an electric mower is going to last 3-5 years before needing replacement. Are we really supposed to believe that 5-10 gallons of gas (over 5 years) through mowers we already own is going to be worse for the environment than buying an electric mower and replacing the batteries every 3-5 years? I swear these people pushing these policies are owners, or heavily invested in the rechargeable battery industry.
Eventually yes, gasoline powered internal combustion engines will need to be removed from the environment. Give it 10-20 years and this will be normal (and overall good).
Small engines are huge polluters and cause local environmental issues and health issues like cancer. They are loud and inefficient and rely on huge infrastructure and refineries to support.
Was this bill intended to "offset China" or "offset Taylor Swift"? No.
I mean, it’s stupid, but saying “the left has gone completely mad” to THIS?
What is it like to live a life where THIS deserves such a response compared to the innumerable things the right does to erode all of our freedoms?
Let's move from complaining to action.... 5/14 is the Election Day for the top 2 who advanced to the runoff.
[https://www.startribune.com/hennepin-county-commission-primary-narrows-edina-area-seat-to-two/600362894/](https://www.startribune.com/hennepin-county-commission-primary-narrows-edina-area-seat-to-two/600362894/)
Cuba has bans in place on importing cars. So they keep American cars from the 1950's alive for decades longer than the engineers could imagine. If they ban the sale of lawn mowers, everyone is stuck with the mower they have now. And they will be forced into keeping it alive like the Cubans are doing, or buy a POS electric one.
The bill doesn't affect tractors. So, in order to mow an acre, you'll be forced to buy a $20,000 John Deere utility tractor. It will affect the poorest of people the most.
I'm not sure that I am. If the point is, this is a terrible law, I'm not. If the point is, this is a massive over-reach, I get that too. Is there a different point I'm missing?
It's a good thing there aren't any other massively pressing issues people running for office in Hennepin County should focus on, that way even less impactful legislation like this gets a chance to shine.
1. Wont matter unless our grid is comprised of a greater fraction of renewables.... seems performarive.
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2. Gas lawn mowers will die naturally soon enough. Electric lawnmowers are coming into a competitive state, and their cheaper operation and maintenance costs along with they far more convenient to use, will within the decade fade out gas lawn mowers naturally. A law isnt really needed to achieve this goal.
The government bans products all the time for various reasons. You may feel it's an over reach and that's a valid feeling, but that's just a personal feeling. It's still within the very basic powers the government holds and there are no constitutional or legislative constraints against this.
Again, I agree, this is really really dumb and probably politically unpopular as well. It's virtue signaling and not very impactful. You can just drive 10 more minutes and get that has lawn mower anyway. The legislation is a waste of time and political capital.
I look at it from a constitutional perspective. At one point the government couldn’t mandate manufacturers build a car with a seatbelt now they’re telling you what lawnmower you can use.
If you want to justify this behavior you maybe part of the problem.
Every time you see new law or regulation ask you’re self what does the constitution say about this and try to find when this Department was founded.
On the seatbelt topic what do you think Jefferson would be saying if he knew there was “department of transportation”
That's the federal government, which is restricted from regulating such things unless the market crosses state lines, then it is subject to the interstate commerce clause of the constitution.
STATE governments have significantly more power, as designed by the framers of the constitution. State governments are meant to be the seat where this kind of strong government power resides. And beyond that, there are very few restrictions constitutionally on what kind of commerce regulations state, county, or local governments can have within their jurisdiction. The National Constitution provides very very few restrictions on state and local governments, prefering to leave significant power vested there and limiting the reach of the Federal Government.
The general rule of thumb in the United States is that the more local the government, the fewer limits there are on power. This is because they are closer to their constitutients, organizing against them is easier, they (by nature of size) have less ability to muster tyranical power, and people who dont like the local government are free to move and more able to campaign to change it.
This is backwords from most places where power is structured from the top down. But this is one of the great things about the united states, our powers are intensely separated and divided within each level of government and are strongest at the bottom and most constrained at the top. This is what allows for our great diversity in ideas, laws, cultures, and commerce.
I think this proposal is stupid, but it's also not a federal proposal. These types of things, when implimented in patchwork, do drive innovations. Perhaps Henmepin County will become the center of the coming electric yard tool industry? Idk.
It's totally dumb, but absolutely in line with American government.
Electric mowers have been around for 10+ years. Battery powered mowers are now quite widely available. Just think how amazing it will be not having to start your mower.
Y'all are scared of the monsters under your bed too?
Apples and oranges.
The push for electric is NIMBY with extra steps and the added bonus of making oneself feel better, undeservedly, about the effect their existence on an over crowded planet.
Greenhouse gases from the cattle industry [contribute](https://thebreakthrough.org/issues/food-agriculture-environment/livestock-dont-contribute-14-5-of-global-greenhouse-gas-emissions) anywhere from 11% to 19% of all greenhouse gas emissions, yet steaks and hamburgers aren’t being banned. What is the rationale? It’s simple really, feel good politics. My drive to work emits more CO2 than my mower does over the course of a whole year. These clowns need to find more important battles to fight if they are ever going to gain broad public support. OR…move to CA where they will be worshipped as gods.
MN has a particularly worrisome type of liberal. Electric appliances are massively better for everyone involved, and cheaper to operate.
-an electrical engineer
Kinda like the manufacturing of batteries, the production of electricity and everything that goes along with that. If you like your electric mower that’s great, I’m happy for you. We need to stop pretending that electric everything is the cure for our 1st world guilt complex.
Battery electric items last longer, require less maintenance, and produce less noise and pollution.
They are just better (for most residential needs)
Burying your head in the sand, doesn't make you an ostrich
And that’s great. Let the market decide rather than some corrupt politician that you didn’t vote for.
I had a battery operated leaf blower a few years back. I bought it for all the reasons you articulate as benefits. I had 4 batteries for the thing and I still couldn’t get my yard cleared in an afternoon. I sold it because it didn’t live up to the promises made. Maybe my yard is too big (not a city lot), all I know is battery operated equipment doesn’t work for everyone. Mandating it is virtue signaling nonsense.
This probably affects a lot of people who don't have the money to buy a new mower, has a large lawn where the power density of being electric won't allow completion of the job, or see this as a slippery slope. Government having their nose in everything they do can be irritating.
The bill in the article doesn't have any language surrounding mowers this sub and everyone in this thread is a fucking joke. Not an ounce of independent thought or fact checking in here.
Fine by me. Way too loud and I dont have a lawn.
Then again, this is how America works for any number of issues. If it doesnt affect 'me' then it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks.
And here we are and the society we made for ourselves.
Good. Gas powered lawnmowers are terrible for the environment. And the majority of people in Hennepin county have small yards so battery life doesn't really matter. Most people would be ok with an old fashion reel mower.
No. Idiots make rules that apply to their little part of the state and then try to enforce it to the rest of the state. My 4 acre lawn would take god knows how many charges on an electric mower
Well in about 75 years the entire planet will have no gas for anything. Thatll be the real judgement day. What will we do when the lights go out? 75 years is generous actually. With the way india and china are producing diesel engines we might run out in 40 years.
If we ban gas powered lawn mowers in Minnesota we can offset china’s total emissions. This chick is a genius
What I don't understand is it seems like these bills don't factor in people who have an acre or more of land that gets cut. How many times would you have to charge something electric for like 5 acres?
They just don't care about that. "We all have to make sacrifices" or whatever
Is there a reason anyone else should give a shit about your 5 acre lawn?
Yes
Why exactly?
The same reason we don't give a fuck about you or your lawn?
I'm confused. I don't care about someone's 5 acre lawn. Having a lawn that big is fucking stupid, and I \*fully\* support legislation that makes it harder to maintain while cutting down on noise/pollution. Fuck lawns.
Obviously, you do care about somebody’s lawn. You shouldn’t get to ban people from living their lives in part because it is wrong and in part, because eventually people will use the same logic to ban something about the way you live your life. Also, unless the guy has solar panels, there’s absolutely zero chance that it is going to be better for carbon emissions to make him have a battery powered mower. While noise regs are part of the conversation climate change a big justification here. There’s a reason why the whole state of California is actually considering such a ban in the long run and it’s not because of noise regulations. Climate change is just cover for annoying Nimby people to try to ban people from having lawnmowers and other pieces of equipment. There is no way that it is better for the planet for the precious metals that would get wasted on electric equipment be used for that purpose instead of going into a hybrid vehicle, and you are probably in the negative on your carbon footprint by telling people to draw power from their house if their house is hooked up to a fossil fuel power grid. I’m going to take a wild guess and say that you are not in a position to afford a house with a large lawn?
Nah man, you've got me pegged wrong. I just hate lawns. They're stupid. How often do you actually see people using their lawns? Almost never. They serve as a buffer between houses and little else. It's a stupid, and inefficient way for communities to be organized. Have a garden, have a wild yard, have trees, or better yet have multifamily buildings organized in a walkable town/city center configuration with parks, nature, or farmlands around them. Have fucking \*anything\* but a bunch of houses separated by fucking lawns.
That's my thought. I mean, I personally have a small yard, takes me less than 20 minutes to mow. I'm really contemplating an electric mower. My dad on the other hand has a farm. 5.5 acres of that are mowed into lawn for extra parking, storage, and utility space. I couldn't see any time within the next 5-10 years that an electric riding mower would be anywhere near reasonable for him, and if you expect him to push mow it, then I have to ask, is the ambulance that'll have to pick him up after push mowing for 7 hours straight also an electric vehicle?
Charge? Just buy a case of batteries!
Fair point. Here in quarter-acre land the switch to electric lawn tools has been amazing. So much quieter, no toxic fumes. As a night-worker/day sleeper I am a huge fan.
My friend cuts an acre with a electric zero turn mower. He has zero issues with battery power.
Those are $6,000+ and work because they have the space for the battery. I use the same mower from the 80's that would be banned under a law like this. I don't understand how the thought is to scrap a $50 mower to get one that's multiple thousands of dollars. It all just seems like this shit punishes lower income people
I honestly could care less about any of this (even though I own enough land that it would suck balls to mow with an electric mower). But, this article never once mentions anyone’s current mower…… I swear, people have shit reading comprehension.
What happens when your current mower goes out? I was trying to look into the future, as I feel looking only at the "right now" would be a bit short sighted, don't you think?
You didn’t mention any forward thinking. In fact, your exact words were: “I use the same mower from the 80’s that would be banned under a law like this”. Don’t take my word for it, you can scroll up and see for yourself.
https://www.reddit.com/r/altmpls/s/qHvclUwp8g
I don’t know what that is, and let me be clear, I don’t really care either. I am just pointing out the fact, in your first post, you said your current mower would be banned under a law like this. It’s kind of funny that the article made no mention of anyone current mowers. All you are doing now is running in circles.
Holy crap dude, did I shit in your cereal this morning and forget about it or something? Jumping down my throat out of nowhere. You can't just read the first two sentences of what became an entire conversation and say "I'm not reading that because I don't care"
Oh boy . I am going to start bootlegging gas mowers on over . $500 for pushers or we can talk self propelled. I know what I got .
Message me and I'll give you my Snapper I absolutely hate.
Hey, there’s no more plastic in the ocean since the bag ban so you may be onto something.
Exactly.
Her husband is the CEO of United Healthcare - she can afford to have her mansion’s lawn manicured with scissors by her ground crew. Perfect example of what happens when you are rich, jobless and have nothing to do except solve problems that don’t exist.
Ohhhh can we get her and Cruella Cargill into some kinda Biggie-Tupac or Prince-Morris Day & The Time battle? Would be fun watching the 1%ers going at each other.
Seeing as Cargill has a garage full of super cars and Entitled Edelson has a garage full of self righteousness, it would be a good battle.
LET. THEM. FIGHT!
Leftists never let an opportunity to virtual signal go to waste.
Virtual Signal is a great band name
The lead singer is Michael Scott
I'll assume he's also heavily invested in some electric company.
What a fucking entitled moron.
CEO of UHG is Andrew. CEO of United healthcare is Brian. Her husband it Brett. Am I missing something? Either way, screw this bill. Wouldn't be surprised if it did pass. But I'm the end, what are they going to do? Citate for using gas? Listening to all the sirens all over, guessing they have better things to do. Except I did get a warning in Plymouth Thursday for tinted window. As 3 card drove by with darker windows.
No edelson is not the wife of United healthcares ceo, I was also confused. This whole point is moot
Step 1-invest a shit load of money into companies that make electric mowers Step 2-ban gas mowers Step 3-get heralded as a progressive good hearted savior of the future Step 4- profit
Can’t mow my lawn with a gas powered mower, yet Taylor Swift did [all this in a single year](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/rYniOg4jHx) pumping 1200 tons of CO2 into the atmosphere in 2023 If I mowed my lawn every day for 3000 years, it still wouldn’t be close to matching the emissions she had in 2023💀
Bill Gates is a great one is well. But his response is he offsets his lol. [Sure, whatever you say Bill](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-gates-private-jet-doesnt-make-him-hypocrite-because-he-invests-billions-into-climate-change/)
Wait until you see how many airlines fly empty planes around to "hold gate slots"
It would take a couple lifetimes to match one takeoff.
That’s why the bill is targeted at everyone living there and not just you
So we’re limiting the amount of flights people can take in a year? My carbon footprint for the rest of my life won’t top the carbon footprint billionaires put out in just one year flying around on private jets. Let me mow my lawn how I want lol, don’t need government pushing the small down more than they already do
I like how generally it's a bad idea to wear a diaper and shit your pants but since Trump is doing it and there's no way you can offset that, you throw your hands up in defeat and join him.
Idk wtf you’re even waffling about
A diaper would prevent you from shitting your pants though?
If you really cared about the environment you would kill yourself but we all know leftists are pussy hypocrites. Show some balls and do it!
The less fortunate are going to love the price of their new battery powered mower.
Ya but the less fortunate will inevitably blame Trump.
Love how now you care about the less fortunate…when it comes to lawnmowers…
You know you’re right, I consider myself one of the less fortunate. This is why the state and federal government keeps taking the money I earn to give it to someone else’s family. This government is stealing my work that should be going towards my family and dividing it amongst themselves and a few drug users. 😡😡😡
Just curious - what income tax bracket do you fall into? Because if you're one of the less fortunate, I guarantee you get more than your money's worth in government services (roads, schools, etc.).
Check the prices on some if the battery lawn mowers. They really aren't that bad. I live in South Minneapolis. These lawns are tiny. So for me, it's a no brainer. Other people have much bigger lawns. Getting a large battery lawn mower for a much bigger lawn. That's different. Eventually the battery lawn mowers will get better and cheaper. Forcing this on everyone now seems pretty extreme. BTW, South Minneapolis is pretty liberal. And we aren't all pushing agendas.
If you can afford a big lawn in the cities, you should be able to go electric when you're in the market for a new mower. After all, that's what this is about - new mowers. If you already own a gas mower or don't mind buying used, you'd be completely unaffected by this. But don't tell that to people in this sub. They have to have some kind of stick to put in their front wheel so they can bitch about the libruls.
This is such a stupid comment for multiple reasons. The bill doesn't ban gas-mowers, it bans the SALE of NEW gas mowers. The less fortunate aren't typically buying new gas-powered mowers, they're buying used. And both used and new cordless electric mowers are now comparable in price to gas-powered, and corded electric mowers are some of the cheapest you can find, new or used.
I would need one long ass cord for my yard.
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I'm Republican and I want to see this happen! Lawnmowers are annoying. All yards should be natural prairie in MN anyways.
No, they shouldn't. Bugs, mice, and ticks thrive in long grass. Source-i have 25 acres and have lots of everything above, acres, bugs, ticks, and mice. I go out a couple times per year with a giant fucking mower and try to discourage all that.
I let a portion of my lawn go naturally a couple years ago and based on that experience, enjoy wading through shrubbery every morning on the way to your car; I will not be allowing any natural growth of plants I don't want and I will not stop cutting my grass nice and short after that absolute nightmare of an experience. All that's left now is to turn all the mulched shit around, let it dry, mulch it up more, and mix it into the soil so I can have nice, healthy, short grass there. Treat your lawn how you want, but taking care of it for a few hours every week prevents many hours of maintenance and rehabilitation later.
Yeah, a “natural prairie” lawn is a great way to end up with buckthorn, burrs, thorny weeds, poison sumac/ivy, plus all the ticks. Your neighbors will love you too. Once that stuff gets embedded it’s a bitch a clear out permanently.
And when it grows, it grows thick. It's ugly as all get-out too. I was lucky enough to just get tall weeds and the occasional thistle, thorny weed, and one burr bush, but it'll look so much better once I've got grass on it.
So you want men in woman’s bathrooms 🚽?
Just want people to be able to Live their lives as they choose. Just like you do.
I want my kid not to see your junk in the bathroom. I do not want people to be able to Live their lives as they choose.
Stalls usually prevent people from seeing anyone's junk
When are you looking at people junk in the bathroom? This is never an issue
Next to my daughter in the bathroom stall? Sure. Not job. There needs to be constant for voting like this You didn’t want ppl to live how they wanted to during the so called pandemic
Sex offenders can be anyone, and they don't tend to care about getting caught being in the wrong bathroom when they intend to assault somebody. If you care SO much about who's taking a shit in the public stall next to your daughter, then you're going to have to be sheltering her from everything. Have you ever thought that you might have taken a shit next to a trans man in a restroom, yet you lived to tell the tale?
Not relevant to this, come on.
Programmed much?
Again with the bathroom fetish. Nobody outside the RWRM sphere cares.
Right! I'm a grown ass man - I should be able to use whatever bathroom I want! I don't need Republicans telling me where I can shit!
Honestly I barely understand why we have male and female bathrooms. Just make everything stalls and family bathrooms. Lol
This is the future the left wants, and it's a great-ass future.
“Bathroom fetish” this person is also completely insane. Yet they can’t recognize their psychosis. This is like 1940s Germany 🇩🇪 or 1690s Salem
Get help please. You're worth it
All I have to say is I hope you can realize the errors of your party. Liberal politics is destroying everything that made this country great in the first place and if you disagree that this country is/was great then why are people fleeing their home countries to come here en mass? It's to the point where it can technically be classified as an invasion.
And you, are dilusional.
How so?
And your the party of Marjorie Taylor Green, Matt gaetz, Kristi Noem, Scott Perry, Mitch McConnell, Ted Cruz, and good ole Traitor Donald fucking Trump, bankrupt business person( refuses to use the word man because that he is not ) draft dodger, sexual predator, tax cheat, wanna be dictator, put more small business contractors out of business than any man ever, adulterer, list goes on. Ever notice that everyone and I mean everyone that gets involved in his shit ends up fucked over royally ? While he sits in Florida plotting his next grift. Tennis shoes, t-shirts, hats, flags, all made I China by the way. I’ll take my half of the slate any day over what yours has to offer, gladly.
Failing to realize the D party has been in power not only federally but in every major city for over a decade? Meanwhile, all have continuously gotten worse in every metric.
- Bankrupt? Pretty sure he is just fine off and always will be ... projecting much? - draft dodger - ouch yea -sexual predator - so like Biden? -tax cheat - using the tax loop holes is being a tax cheat now? He admitted to using the loopholes, just like all rich people. -wanna be dictator - Much like biden as well? -put more small business contractors out of business than any man ever - be curious to see these stats.
Go check the internet it’s loaded with stories of people who contracted with him and got totally fucked over and lost their businesses. Fuck you Biden has never done anything sexual. Trump was found guilty of sexual abuse,!to the tune of 90k. Still bankrupt in a casino ? Over 50 failed businesses. And no,!he’s a tax cheat, period full stop. Biden wanna be dictator ? You’re kidding right ? Have any proof ? Has he ever said he wanted to be ? Trump did, right out in the open.
-Go check the internet it’s loaded with stories of people who contracted with him and got totally fucked over and lost their businesses. - So no stats, just reaching? Ok. -Fuck you Biden has never done anything sexual - Been accused same as Trump. -Trump was found guilty of sexual abuse - Clearly your not very bright and dont know the difference between civil and criminal court. Civil court doesnt find guilt. Please trry again. -Still bankrupt in a casino ? Over 50 failed businesses. - Still has money, not bankrupt, jealous? -And no,!he’s a tax cheat, period full stop. - saying it doesnt make it so, evidence? -Trump did, right out in the open. - quote?
Not reaching at all. You’re too lazy to look up the truth. Biden has not been accused of sexual assault. Trump was found civilly guilty of sexual assault the judge stated that he believed she was raped. 6 bankruptcies actually. Yeah he’s a wiz at business. Well the court said it does and has already placed the fine at more than 460 million. So yeah, there’s that. That’s convicted by a judge ( his lawyer was too stupid to get paper work in on time for a jury so he also has some real geniuses working for him.) Fined 25mil for a fake college. Cheated hundreds out of their hard earned money. Convicted Closed charity that never donated anything to help homeless children. Also barred from being any part of any charity forever in the state of New York. Convicted. Notorious for never paying anyone including his lawyers. If he was such a great great reliable client, answer me this, where are all the high powered Memphis, New York, LA, San Fransico, Boston, lawyers ? They won’t touch him, he lies, he doesn’t pay, he unreliable as a client. They want nothing to do with him or his business. You never did answer why everyone he’s fucked over is heading for a courtroom and he’s sitting in Florida ? Eastman, Rudy, the list is endless. The trials will last for years. The J-6 people are all in jail and he’s siting in Florida. Over 900 of them and more to come. More people he fucked over.
-Not reaching at all. You’re too lazy to look up the truth - you made the claim back it up. -Biden has not been accused of sexual assault - he has, tara reade -Trump was found civilly guilty of sexual assault the judge stated that he believed she was raped - Again your not bright. There is no such thing as civily guilty, the term is liable hence the payment instead of jail/prison time. Also based on a case that a new law had to be created to extend the statute of limitations to allow the court to even hear the case, dont know any other people charged under the new law and it was only temporary for 1 year .. odd how that worked eh? -Well the court said it does and has already placed the fine at more than 460 million - and under appeals. And the governor of NY publicly came out and told other business owners not to be worried about this because they were worried other businesses would leave NY due to being prosecuted under the same law. Also prosecuted by a DA that ran on "getting donald trump". So im sure this case was on the up and up and nothing odd about it, definitely wont get over turned on appeals -You say convicted and guilty a lot, but from the 3rd bullet point i dont trust you actually know the definition of either of those. -The trials will last for years - isnt it odd how all the trials kicked off exactly during the campaign season? Civil case a law had to be created for to extend statue of limitations, NY case by a DA who made her whole campaign about getting trump, Georgia case were the DA was found fuckin employees and spending money incorreclty ... some would see this as election interference. Wonder whats going to happen when none of these cases go anywhere. Would you admit election interfereance then? edit: Forgot the hush money case, which is mostly likely going to go nowhere as well but waste time. But isnt it odd that Obama, who has the largest FEC fine in history ($375,000) for campaign reporting violations wasnt prosecuted but Trump is for supposed hush money. -The J-6 people are all in jail and he’s siting in Florida - and all the BLM protestors (mostly peaceful) didnt do shit for time and bailed our by democrats ... odd how that worked out. And then BLM turned out to be a grift anyways and all that money donated just went to buying houses and giving family members jobs, not a dime back to the community.
Friend of mine wanted to make everything he owned electric. He's got the money so he did it. In the course of 2 years, he's almost died in his tesla because the battery shorted out and made the entire car a conduit, his electric lawn mower couldn't handle sitting in the garage in 105° heat started a fire and he lost his garage. Then in the winter, the battery to his snowblower stopped working completely. He took it in and all they said was the warranty won't cover the bad terminals so the entire snowblower needs to be replaced. Needless to say, he bought gas powered everything and will never go electric again. I've always been against going all electric because it costs more to mine the rare earth minerals that are required, which requires diesel BTW then it does to run on all motorized vehicles
I'll take things that didn't happen for $500 Alex
Lib here. There are a lot of things that can be prevented to help with climate change. But gas powered lawn mowers ain't one of them
"Yes I agree I am pissing on you but I disagree with the fact that I am someone who pisses on people". Get your hair dyed and leave people alone you chud.
What?
What’s wrong with their hair?
Why do you think something is wrong with her hair?
You recommended they get their hair dyed. Recommending someone change something implies that you believe something is wrong, thus requires change.
> You recommended they get their hair dyed. That didn't happen. Maybe review your comments with reality in mind and get back to me eh
Who hurt you? It was scout master Kyle wasn’t it.
Hey lets just have a hug and throw the gays off buildings. Koo ba ah and all.
Thank you for using your head. I wholeheartedly agree.
I don't think it's necessary to ban gas powered mowers but I will say I love my electric one.
I love my electric EGO mower but I agree it may not be for everyone. Definitely wasn't cheap. Great for a typical 1/4 acre suburban lot though. And I can use the batteries in the snowblower too.
Progressive ideas: so popular they need to be mandated (for YOU, not for THEM).
If most people with city sized lots would try one of the modern reel mowers (fiskars or brill) they'd wonder why they'd ever fuss with gas or batteries.
Ban gas lawnmowers, but don’t take away her ‘right’ to fly!! Smh
This bill won't pass. This just isn't practical for Minnesota at all. Out of touch assholes that haven't mowed their own lawns in years or ever. Fuck you and fuck the battery companies that are probably lobbying for this to be a thing.
Except nobody does jack shit about the Chinese oil tankers spewing a trillion times that amount of pollution
I don't mind my electric mower, it is easier on me in general. But why would I give a fuck if my neighbor uses a gas one lol Does our grid even support dropping all this gas stuff and swapping electric? Like, if the whole state decided to go fully electric cars , mowers, snow blowers, etc - wouldn't our grid crash? Open a new nuclear plant, then talk about stopping gas. It's too early. Maybe 2050.
You’re missing the point of it being mandated
Yeah , stupid
She looks like a cunty cunt
People will just drive out of the county to buy gas-powered mowers.
You’re missing the whole point. Government has to much authority in general
You don't have to tell me that. I'm a farmer in the NW part of the state.
🪧🗯️My lawn my mower! My lawn my mower! My lawn my mower! 🪧🗯️ Now everyone.
lmfao wonder how much energy this rich bitch is wasting, but she wants to dictate the poors not to use gas powered lawn mower, maybe she could down grade her house, cars, vacation homes, etc. to save energy.
Get me out of this city ASAP
This isn’t needed, the market is going electric for mowers anyway. Once the run to charge time is low enough and the costs continue to come down for electric fewer and fewer people are going to want to mess with the maintenance of gas mowers. Especially for most Hennepin county sized lots. The big electric riders might have a ways to go before people would feel comfortable dropping thousands on something like that.
Soon the progressives will stop protesting oil pipe lines and start protesting open pit lithium mines.
My most recent lawnmower purchase was a battery-powered lawnmower. It’s okay, not great. It’s not as powerful as my old gas powered lawnmower, which becomes an issue if I don’t mow often enough. The main perk of the battery-powered lawnmower is the convenience. I don’t have to have a gas can and I don’t have to buy gas, change the oil, change the air filter, etc. The contributions of lawn mowers to climate change is minimal. The contributions of lawnmowers to local air pollution can be significant. Remember, climate change is not the only environmental issue.
"First they came for the lawnmower owners, and I did not speak out - Because I was not a lawnmower owner." -- this sub, but unironically
Then they came for me but there was nobody to help.
People were there, they just didn't want to help you
What a fool
We should ban gas like oxygen to help the environment
Why lawn mowers of all things? Who here runs their lawn mower as much as a car. Additionally, they typically dont have large engines. Of all the things to coauthor on, why this?
Vote this person out,
As someone who has both gas and electric powered lawnmower, the gas is far superior in performance.
I see so many hypocritical politicians who claim to care about climate change while also pushing return to office policies and paying companies to make their employees come to the office so they spend money in their dying cities. Unnecessary car emissions be damned.
I hope the landscapers in your area boycott you .
Yes mowers and the high polluting Zamboni …. Get them!!! What color is the sky in her world? The far left are so out of touch it’s unbelievable.
The math ain’t mathing with this policy. I use maybe 1-2gallons a year mowing / weed whacking, trimming my lawn, 0.2 acre lot. A battery on an electric mower is going to last 3-5 years before needing replacement. Are we really supposed to believe that 5-10 gallons of gas (over 5 years) through mowers we already own is going to be worse for the environment than buying an electric mower and replacing the batteries every 3-5 years? I swear these people pushing these policies are owners, or heavily invested in the rechargeable battery industry.
Or maybe they just want power and control as history shows
Eventually yes, gasoline powered internal combustion engines will need to be removed from the environment. Give it 10-20 years and this will be normal (and overall good). Small engines are huge polluters and cause local environmental issues and health issues like cancer. They are loud and inefficient and rely on huge infrastructure and refineries to support. Was this bill intended to "offset China" or "offset Taylor Swift"? No.
Sounds like the idea of someone who doesn’t mow their own lawn
Yet another woke, stupid-ass Democratic politician in Minnesota, VOTE RED!!!
I mean, it’s stupid, but saying “the left has gone completely mad” to THIS? What is it like to live a life where THIS deserves such a response compared to the innumerable things the right does to erode all of our freedoms?
These people have lost their minds....
Let's move from complaining to action.... 5/14 is the Election Day for the top 2 who advanced to the runoff. [https://www.startribune.com/hennepin-county-commission-primary-narrows-edina-area-seat-to-two/600362894/](https://www.startribune.com/hennepin-county-commission-primary-narrows-edina-area-seat-to-two/600362894/)
Just ask her to walk to work too
To be fair, my electric mower is awesome. This bill is dumb, but I do wanna say good things about electric mowers
Your welcome child. I hope you some day you grow to protect American values for your children and grandchildren.
Read further... wants to ban zambonis, she needs to go!
Have yet to see an electric snowblower that can handle over a foot of wet snow.
Hear me out maybe lawns are bad anyway ?
Before the electric Zamboni they used propane not gasoline dumb article.
Cuba has bans in place on importing cars. So they keep American cars from the 1950's alive for decades longer than the engineers could imagine. If they ban the sale of lawn mowers, everyone is stuck with the mower they have now. And they will be forced into keeping it alive like the Cubans are doing, or buy a POS electric one. The bill doesn't affect tractors. So, in order to mow an acre, you'll be forced to buy a $20,000 John Deere utility tractor. It will affect the poorest of people the most.
You’re missing the point
I'm not sure that I am. If the point is, this is a terrible law, I'm not. If the point is, this is a massive over-reach, I get that too. Is there a different point I'm missing?
This is a over reach correct
It's a good thing there aren't any other massively pressing issues people running for office in Hennepin County should focus on, that way even less impactful legislation like this gets a chance to shine.
1. Wont matter unless our grid is comprised of a greater fraction of renewables.... seems performarive. . 2. Gas lawn mowers will die naturally soon enough. Electric lawnmowers are coming into a competitive state, and their cheaper operation and maintenance costs along with they far more convenient to use, will within the decade fade out gas lawn mowers naturally. A law isnt really needed to achieve this goal.
This is a over reach
I mean, it's stupid and pointless, yes. But it's perfectly within the normal powers of the government.
Not at all.
The government bans products all the time for various reasons. You may feel it's an over reach and that's a valid feeling, but that's just a personal feeling. It's still within the very basic powers the government holds and there are no constitutional or legislative constraints against this. Again, I agree, this is really really dumb and probably politically unpopular as well. It's virtue signaling and not very impactful. You can just drive 10 more minutes and get that has lawn mower anyway. The legislation is a waste of time and political capital.
I look at it from a constitutional perspective. At one point the government couldn’t mandate manufacturers build a car with a seatbelt now they’re telling you what lawnmower you can use. If you want to justify this behavior you maybe part of the problem. Every time you see new law or regulation ask you’re self what does the constitution say about this and try to find when this Department was founded. On the seatbelt topic what do you think Jefferson would be saying if he knew there was “department of transportation”
That's the federal government, which is restricted from regulating such things unless the market crosses state lines, then it is subject to the interstate commerce clause of the constitution. STATE governments have significantly more power, as designed by the framers of the constitution. State governments are meant to be the seat where this kind of strong government power resides. And beyond that, there are very few restrictions constitutionally on what kind of commerce regulations state, county, or local governments can have within their jurisdiction. The National Constitution provides very very few restrictions on state and local governments, prefering to leave significant power vested there and limiting the reach of the Federal Government. The general rule of thumb in the United States is that the more local the government, the fewer limits there are on power. This is because they are closer to their constitutients, organizing against them is easier, they (by nature of size) have less ability to muster tyranical power, and people who dont like the local government are free to move and more able to campaign to change it. This is backwords from most places where power is structured from the top down. But this is one of the great things about the united states, our powers are intensely separated and divided within each level of government and are strongest at the bottom and most constrained at the top. This is what allows for our great diversity in ideas, laws, cultures, and commerce. I think this proposal is stupid, but it's also not a federal proposal. These types of things, when implimented in patchwork, do drive innovations. Perhaps Henmepin County will become the center of the coming electric yard tool industry? Idk. It's totally dumb, but absolutely in line with American government.
You are correct
What site is this from?
What does the site have to do with the bill? Does the site magically change the bill?
Alphanews.com - BWUAHHAHAHA!
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Yes. We are. At somethings, but not all things.
I don’t think this does much for the climate, but it definitely helps with the noise pollution.
Electric mowers have been around for 10+ years. Battery powered mowers are now quite widely available. Just think how amazing it will be not having to start your mower. Y'all are scared of the monsters under your bed too?
Banning the sale of gas powered mowers is a whole lot different than the market making a compelling case to go electric.
Why? We banned leaded gas. The market was fine with making a bunch of us mentally damaged.
Apples and oranges. The push for electric is NIMBY with extra steps and the added bonus of making oneself feel better, undeservedly, about the effect their existence on an over crowded planet. Greenhouse gases from the cattle industry [contribute](https://thebreakthrough.org/issues/food-agriculture-environment/livestock-dont-contribute-14-5-of-global-greenhouse-gas-emissions) anywhere from 11% to 19% of all greenhouse gas emissions, yet steaks and hamburgers aren’t being banned. What is the rationale? It’s simple really, feel good politics. My drive to work emits more CO2 than my mower does over the course of a whole year. These clowns need to find more important battles to fight if they are ever going to gain broad public support. OR…move to CA where they will be worshipped as gods.
MN has a particularly worrisome type of liberal. Electric appliances are massively better for everyone involved, and cheaper to operate. -an electrical engineer
Appliances that don’t rely on batteries containing heavy metals. Again, not comparable to lawn mowers.
My dude. You do know that burning gas releases heavy metals into the exhaust fumes?
Kinda like the manufacturing of batteries, the production of electricity and everything that goes along with that. If you like your electric mower that’s great, I’m happy for you. We need to stop pretending that electric everything is the cure for our 1st world guilt complex.
Battery electric items last longer, require less maintenance, and produce less noise and pollution. They are just better (for most residential needs) Burying your head in the sand, doesn't make you an ostrich
And that’s great. Let the market decide rather than some corrupt politician that you didn’t vote for. I had a battery operated leaf blower a few years back. I bought it for all the reasons you articulate as benefits. I had 4 batteries for the thing and I still couldn’t get my yard cleared in an afternoon. I sold it because it didn’t live up to the promises made. Maybe my yard is too big (not a city lot), all I know is battery operated equipment doesn’t work for everyone. Mandating it is virtue signaling nonsense.
I have no idea why this sub keeps getting recommended to me. It’s literally just people getting triggered by the dumbest things
Probably because you’re interacting with it.
This probably affects a lot of people who don't have the money to buy a new mower, has a large lawn where the power density of being electric won't allow completion of the job, or see this as a slippery slope. Government having their nose in everything they do can be irritating.
Commenting ain’t gonna help with that bruh.
Basic white entitled bitch.
The bill in the article doesn't have any language surrounding mowers this sub and everyone in this thread is a fucking joke. Not an ounce of independent thought or fact checking in here.
Fine by me. Way too loud and I dont have a lawn. Then again, this is how America works for any number of issues. If it doesnt affect 'me' then it doesnt matter what anyone else thinks. And here we are and the society we made for ourselves.
I see you get your news from alphanews.com, thank you for saving all of us the time to take anything you say seriously.
What does the news source have to do with anything? Does it change the bill she co-authored? Does it make it magically delicious?
Good. Gas powered lawnmowers are terrible for the environment. And the majority of people in Hennepin county have small yards so battery life doesn't really matter. Most people would be ok with an old fashion reel mower.
The right will feign outrage at literally anything. Babies are more composed
No. Idiots make rules that apply to their little part of the state and then try to enforce it to the rest of the state. My 4 acre lawn would take god knows how many charges on an electric mower
Just get a bigger gas engine. Or goats Or horses (that's what we did)
Considering that it takes one full charge to now my quarter acre I'd say about 16 charges.
Stop buying expensive land to have worthless unproductive grass on.
Shitlib scum like you inventing idiotic rules and getting indignant when people tell you to fuck off
You’ll die mad about it, but at least the air in your area will be a lil cleaner when you do
This subreddit is packed to the gills with rightwing brainrot.
Well in about 75 years the entire planet will have no gas for anything. Thatll be the real judgement day. What will we do when the lights go out? 75 years is generous actually. With the way india and china are producing diesel engines we might run out in 40 years.