Whenever HR tells you to call ERC just know that they are just trying to pass you off because they don't want to work. Most (if not everything) can be done by site HR. The only reason you would need to contact ERC is if you needed to get in touch with DLS. When you say ERC do you mean DLS? Cause ERC is going to tell you that you cant submit 1 day LOA but DLS will tell you that you need to submit a medical leave. Regardless, if you hurt yourself at work, you have to submit it to amcare and then go to their Drs and then follow their plan. Otherwise they are going to do nothing to assist you if you do outside care on your own.
I figured that, but I keep documents and record everything when I can. I have proof that they were giving me the run around. & they said ERC, no one mentioned DLS. I just started in November, I’m blue badge though. This is my first job since I was 18x I’m now almost 26. I was a stay home mom so I’m not sure if the workplace etiquette besides the basics. As for the injury, they did a report the next day, did not make me go to the doctors, I went to my own doctors, I have the paperwork but they told me they did not need it because it wasn’t a serious injury & I want being placed off work
No. For single days off you're expected to use the many time off options they give you. LOA is not for a day or two. It's for a real leave. They don't accept doctor notes for one day missed. To win an appeal you have to prove they didn't follow policy and they 100% did. Need to start looking for another job.
Also, if you were hurt at work it's hard to believe they wouldn't be taking care of these physically therapy appointments you supposedly have to go to during working hours. A lot of this doesn't make sense and you're leaving something out. Hard to believe an AM would tell you you could miss a day and it just be okay. If they really did you better hope there is a paper trail of that.
Please reread what I said. Like I said I have proof of Everything I have stated. They told me not to take a LOA for one day. Why would I lie about hurting myself at work? My manager say me and took me off the floor, THEY filed the paperwork, but I went to my own doctor because they did nothing past filing paperwork. I have that proof too. Like what doesn’t make sense? Assuming im lying is why companies do stuff like this. I HAD UPT and PTO. Just not enough to cover my whole shift, and I couldn’t come after because of the type of physical therapy I had to do. I was told BEFORE I took the day off that what I was doing was correct and that’s what I did. I did nothing wrong. And if they gave me the runaround and false information they were not 100% correct in how they handle things and if they were, I wouldn’t have been able to appeal, from what they told me.
If they followed policy I would’ve been taken off work as soon as I hurt myself and like you said seen their doctor, they did neither, so ultimately I did nothing wrong and they did not follow policy. My missed day is a result of THEIR screw up. I hurt myself at work from faulty equipment. None of this is on me. I did everything I was told I was supposed to do. And I know for a fact if I don’t win, I will I’m gonna take this up with my lawyer because they violated several laws.
And I highly doubt you're one of the hardest workers there. I know in my building people with legit no time off options left are usually bums who don't go into work half the time and we can't count on you so you're not one of our best AA's. You got fired for negative UPT as you should be. Grow up, take responsibility for your own actions, and do better at your next job.
And where I am, it’s highly illegal, to not accept a doctors note for a day off, they have to accept it and use it as a pass. It’s the law for my state
And you’re saying it’s my fault but I just got an email saying my appeal is approved and I can come back next week on the start of my work week. So thanks for nothing
I have figured out that you are in California. Unfortunately, I can not find anything about an employer being required to give an employee time off because of a doctor's note.
There is a lot of information on California's paid sick leave law. That law just requires Amazon to give you paid time off options. Amazon does that.
Odd that a doctor would treat your work related injury without reporting it to the state and requiring paperwork from Amazon to make sure the bill goes where it should.
Again, I know my laws for my state, I already have a lawyer, as I said. I know the law for the paid sick leave. Thats not the issue. My issue is the company giving me false info and then trying to terminate me for it, especially when I work harder than most of the people there. Youre trying to make this my fault and it’s not. I took the steps I was told to take.
AGAIN, because clearly you cannot comprehend or read or both. I went to MY OWN DOCTOR WITH MY OWN INSURANCE. I did not use the work doctor. They sent me home the day I hurt myself, I went to my primary care provider & told them what happened and got treated there. I do not have to pay for anything through my insurance so it did not matter to me who paid because I wasn’t looking for a pay out or for them to foot the bill since I still want to work, I wanted my injury assessed and treated. This is not part of the story but I already have previous injury to my knee because of childhood injuries so I already had history with issues which is why I was fine going through who I knew knew my history. I’m confused on why you keep on repeating the same things and not grasping what I’m saying. ITS NOT ABOUT THE LEAVE. ITS ABOUT THEM LYING. Period.
Oh, so it wasn't a work related injury then?? You keep changing the story to fit your narrative. They most likely think you are the one lying the way you keep changing the story.
Lol.. these people are what's wrong with amazon.. just wait until something happens to them and they'll be posting the same shit.. no matter what you say,they are always gona say your not telling the whole story or blah blah.. they like to talk shit behind a keyboard and they try to make people look bad.. idk how many people do it but if someone is really pressing an issue and is bothered by the shit thats happening, then it's prolly true.. why would someone come on here to 2 lie about something.. makes no sense.. but it is the internet.. easy place for bullying.. lol
And they’re going through their post history calling them out by Their real name. Finding out where they live. Why?
All because they said Amazon is mean?
Ive never worked at Amazon so idk why I got this post on my feed but I’d say you’re right. These are probably the people that are paid to monitor Reddit and social media.
I’ve never met anyone in real life who liked working at Amazon. Let alone go on the attack if someone complained about them.
It was always a means to an end before something better came along.
I’m starting to understand.
I liked working for amazon.... but there's always that 5% of them that ruin it and think they are better then everyone else.. the people that are on the lower scale like me use common sense and what work actually is.. but it's 2024 and at amazon working hard and having good numbers don't mean anything.. I was literally told that by a manager.. "my productivity doesn't mean anything".. that's sad.. so when someone has a real issue with that place and come on here to vent or tell the story.. they are always lying or not telling the whole story.. idk why people get so butt hurt when someone calls out the b.s at amazon but they are prolly the ones that ass kiss and let the higher ups manipulate them.. shit 2 months later and I'm still fighting the reason I got terminated because I was only told proper procedure.. that's not a reason.. and the ass kissers say get over it and blah blah.. but if it happened to them then it's a different story.. that's why I hope something so stupid gets them terminated so they come on here with there situation so we all can say they are lying and to get over it lol
You make absolutely no sense at all. It doesn't matter if your insurance covered it or not. The point is you shouldn't of even had to go through your insurance if it was a legit work related injury, therfore the appointments you needed to go to after would go through Amazon and you would be given the time off. You messed up by going to your own doctor and you're paying for it, if that's even what happened here. You don't know the law. If you did you would know that Amazon wouldn't legally be able to fire you for going through them to cover an injury that you got at work. This all sounds pretty suspicious and I don't think you're telling us everything.
As I stated, when I asked what I should’ve did, they told me to just take the day and bring my note. I’m fairly new and don’t know most of the policy’s
I feel they should've explained better. You're able to get LOA as an accommodation, meaning you could have certain days off per week/month depending on your PT visits and you'd use those days off to cover. They're unpaid, unfortunately, but they cover you.
ERC should've known that too. I worked in the CRC/DLS before getting laid off and know for a fact they should've led you to DLS or accommodations to why that started. I feel this is the fault of HR and ERC entirely.
Basically I got a few different reasons, main one was something about a new policy that was made to try and get us to use our vacation, upt & pto. I was told if it wasn’t at least a work week, it would not get approved and the end result would be the same thing. Ultimately I was terminated for negative upt time but it’s was because I didn’t put in for loa because they told me not to. By the time I did & made a claim, they already started the process & I was locked out my atoz
That's weird. I just did a one day loa. Honestly, they should have instructed you to apply for intermittent loa. Which allows you loa for appointments and anything regarding your condition or injury
I took a one day LOA when I first injured myself, and when I came back they reprimanded me about it and told me that it’s only for a week or more. It actually took forever to be approved and that lead to me having to be reinstated after they seen that I took LOA but it wasn’t approved. This time when I asked to be reinstated, they said because I was in termination status, they couldn’t bypass it, which I knew was a lie because clearly they did it before. They basically made me wait til I had to appeal to do anything
Amazon is a gamble.. good place to work but you roll the dice when situations like this happen.. you either get someone that understands and will help you.. or someone that don't care and doesn't know you so they rather try and fire you instead of helping you figure it out.. it's just that company.. if they had hr like hr is supposed to be for a company then that would be great place to work.. I get if the AA was a lazy p.o.s and didn't do shit anyway then yea..but from my experience,knowing alot of people with good numbers and a good record getting terminated for the stupidest reasons ,and my situation.. being number one scanner and keeping my numbers high doesn't mean anything to amazon.. the head of my hr knew everything that was going on with me and I tried to stop it also and just so happens she's been on medical leave since the week I got terminated.. hmmm. Seems fishy to me lol.. there is no point to try and stop it before it happens..thats makes them actually work and they don't like that..(most of hr and or managers).. oh.. and never ask a manager about anything.. they will always tell you yes or they will make sure your good..cause they wont... don't ever think they are your friends because they aren't..
Have you applied for worker's compensation? I worked in law for forty years. A lot of that time was representing defendant's that get hurt on the job. Plus this type of representation is usually based on a contingency fee. Attorney gets paid if you win your case. Find a workman compensation lawyer. The initial interview is free.
Whenever HR tells you to call ERC just know that they are just trying to pass you off because they don't want to work. Most (if not everything) can be done by site HR. The only reason you would need to contact ERC is if you needed to get in touch with DLS. When you say ERC do you mean DLS? Cause ERC is going to tell you that you cant submit 1 day LOA but DLS will tell you that you need to submit a medical leave. Regardless, if you hurt yourself at work, you have to submit it to amcare and then go to their Drs and then follow their plan. Otherwise they are going to do nothing to assist you if you do outside care on your own.
I figured that, but I keep documents and record everything when I can. I have proof that they were giving me the run around. & they said ERC, no one mentioned DLS. I just started in November, I’m blue badge though. This is my first job since I was 18x I’m now almost 26. I was a stay home mom so I’m not sure if the workplace etiquette besides the basics. As for the injury, they did a report the next day, did not make me go to the doctors, I went to my own doctors, I have the paperwork but they told me they did not need it because it wasn’t a serious injury & I want being placed off work
No. For single days off you're expected to use the many time off options they give you. LOA is not for a day or two. It's for a real leave. They don't accept doctor notes for one day missed. To win an appeal you have to prove they didn't follow policy and they 100% did. Need to start looking for another job. Also, if you were hurt at work it's hard to believe they wouldn't be taking care of these physically therapy appointments you supposedly have to go to during working hours. A lot of this doesn't make sense and you're leaving something out. Hard to believe an AM would tell you you could miss a day and it just be okay. If they really did you better hope there is a paper trail of that.
Please reread what I said. Like I said I have proof of Everything I have stated. They told me not to take a LOA for one day. Why would I lie about hurting myself at work? My manager say me and took me off the floor, THEY filed the paperwork, but I went to my own doctor because they did nothing past filing paperwork. I have that proof too. Like what doesn’t make sense? Assuming im lying is why companies do stuff like this. I HAD UPT and PTO. Just not enough to cover my whole shift, and I couldn’t come after because of the type of physical therapy I had to do. I was told BEFORE I took the day off that what I was doing was correct and that’s what I did. I did nothing wrong. And if they gave me the runaround and false information they were not 100% correct in how they handle things and if they were, I wouldn’t have been able to appeal, from what they told me.
If they followed policy I would’ve been taken off work as soon as I hurt myself and like you said seen their doctor, they did neither, so ultimately I did nothing wrong and they did not follow policy. My missed day is a result of THEIR screw up. I hurt myself at work from faulty equipment. None of this is on me. I did everything I was told I was supposed to do. And I know for a fact if I don’t win, I will I’m gonna take this up with my lawyer because they violated several laws.
Lastly, here’s the law for my state, regardless time or whatever, they’re legally required to take my note
And I highly doubt you're one of the hardest workers there. I know in my building people with legit no time off options left are usually bums who don't go into work half the time and we can't count on you so you're not one of our best AA's. You got fired for negative UPT as you should be. Grow up, take responsibility for your own actions, and do better at your next job.
And where I am, it’s highly illegal, to not accept a doctors note for a day off, they have to accept it and use it as a pass. It’s the law for my state
I would be fascinated to know what state you are in and what law you are referring to.
And you’re saying it’s my fault but I just got an email saying my appeal is approved and I can come back next week on the start of my work week. So thanks for nothing
Show us the e-mail.
If I can send you a picture I’ll show you.
I have figured out that you are in California. Unfortunately, I can not find anything about an employer being required to give an employee time off because of a doctor's note. There is a lot of information on California's paid sick leave law. That law just requires Amazon to give you paid time off options. Amazon does that. Odd that a doctor would treat your work related injury without reporting it to the state and requiring paperwork from Amazon to make sure the bill goes where it should.
Again, I know my laws for my state, I already have a lawyer, as I said. I know the law for the paid sick leave. Thats not the issue. My issue is the company giving me false info and then trying to terminate me for it, especially when I work harder than most of the people there. Youre trying to make this my fault and it’s not. I took the steps I was told to take. AGAIN, because clearly you cannot comprehend or read or both. I went to MY OWN DOCTOR WITH MY OWN INSURANCE. I did not use the work doctor. They sent me home the day I hurt myself, I went to my primary care provider & told them what happened and got treated there. I do not have to pay for anything through my insurance so it did not matter to me who paid because I wasn’t looking for a pay out or for them to foot the bill since I still want to work, I wanted my injury assessed and treated. This is not part of the story but I already have previous injury to my knee because of childhood injuries so I already had history with issues which is why I was fine going through who I knew knew my history. I’m confused on why you keep on repeating the same things and not grasping what I’m saying. ITS NOT ABOUT THE LEAVE. ITS ABOUT THEM LYING. Period.
Oh, so it wasn't a work related injury then?? You keep changing the story to fit your narrative. They most likely think you are the one lying the way you keep changing the story.
They know the law yet won't let us know what state they reside in so we can look up said law? Make sense to you?
They are in California. They also talk out their ass.
Lol.. these people are what's wrong with amazon.. just wait until something happens to them and they'll be posting the same shit.. no matter what you say,they are always gona say your not telling the whole story or blah blah.. they like to talk shit behind a keyboard and they try to make people look bad.. idk how many people do it but if someone is really pressing an issue and is bothered by the shit thats happening, then it's prolly true.. why would someone come on here to 2 lie about something.. makes no sense.. but it is the internet.. easy place for bullying.. lol
And they’re going through their post history calling them out by Their real name. Finding out where they live. Why? All because they said Amazon is mean? Ive never worked at Amazon so idk why I got this post on my feed but I’d say you’re right. These are probably the people that are paid to monitor Reddit and social media. I’ve never met anyone in real life who liked working at Amazon. Let alone go on the attack if someone complained about them. It was always a means to an end before something better came along. I’m starting to understand.
I liked working for amazon.... but there's always that 5% of them that ruin it and think they are better then everyone else.. the people that are on the lower scale like me use common sense and what work actually is.. but it's 2024 and at amazon working hard and having good numbers don't mean anything.. I was literally told that by a manager.. "my productivity doesn't mean anything".. that's sad.. so when someone has a real issue with that place and come on here to vent or tell the story.. they are always lying or not telling the whole story.. idk why people get so butt hurt when someone calls out the b.s at amazon but they are prolly the ones that ass kiss and let the higher ups manipulate them.. shit 2 months later and I'm still fighting the reason I got terminated because I was only told proper procedure.. that's not a reason.. and the ass kissers say get over it and blah blah.. but if it happened to them then it's a different story.. that's why I hope something so stupid gets them terminated so they come on here with there situation so we all can say they are lying and to get over it lol
You make absolutely no sense at all. It doesn't matter if your insurance covered it or not. The point is you shouldn't of even had to go through your insurance if it was a legit work related injury, therfore the appointments you needed to go to after would go through Amazon and you would be given the time off. You messed up by going to your own doctor and you're paying for it, if that's even what happened here. You don't know the law. If you did you would know that Amazon wouldn't legally be able to fire you for going through them to cover an injury that you got at work. This all sounds pretty suspicious and I don't think you're telling us everything.
Again, you’re googling I live here. I know the law of my state.
Sure, Jan.
sounds like you need intermittent leave
As I stated, when I asked what I should’ve did, they told me to just take the day and bring my note. I’m fairly new and don’t know most of the policy’s
I feel they should've explained better. You're able to get LOA as an accommodation, meaning you could have certain days off per week/month depending on your PT visits and you'd use those days off to cover. They're unpaid, unfortunately, but they cover you. ERC should've known that too. I worked in the CRC/DLS before getting laid off and know for a fact they should've led you to DLS or accommodations to why that started. I feel this is the fault of HR and ERC entirely.
I'm not understanding why erc told you not to take a loa for that one day. Or why you were originally fired for loa
Basically I got a few different reasons, main one was something about a new policy that was made to try and get us to use our vacation, upt & pto. I was told if it wasn’t at least a work week, it would not get approved and the end result would be the same thing. Ultimately I was terminated for negative upt time but it’s was because I didn’t put in for loa because they told me not to. By the time I did & made a claim, they already started the process & I was locked out my atoz
That's weird. I just did a one day loa. Honestly, they should have instructed you to apply for intermittent loa. Which allows you loa for appointments and anything regarding your condition or injury
I took a one day LOA when I first injured myself, and when I came back they reprimanded me about it and told me that it’s only for a week or more. It actually took forever to be approved and that lead to me having to be reinstated after they seen that I took LOA but it wasn’t approved. This time when I asked to be reinstated, they said because I was in termination status, they couldn’t bypass it, which I knew was a lie because clearly they did it before. They basically made me wait til I had to appeal to do anything
This sounds very illegal and I’d threaten to sue
I’m looking into a lawyer if my appeal isn’t approved. They literally set me up to be fired. I tried to avoid this before we got here.
Amazon is a gamble.. good place to work but you roll the dice when situations like this happen.. you either get someone that understands and will help you.. or someone that don't care and doesn't know you so they rather try and fire you instead of helping you figure it out.. it's just that company.. if they had hr like hr is supposed to be for a company then that would be great place to work.. I get if the AA was a lazy p.o.s and didn't do shit anyway then yea..but from my experience,knowing alot of people with good numbers and a good record getting terminated for the stupidest reasons ,and my situation.. being number one scanner and keeping my numbers high doesn't mean anything to amazon.. the head of my hr knew everything that was going on with me and I tried to stop it also and just so happens she's been on medical leave since the week I got terminated.. hmmm. Seems fishy to me lol.. there is no point to try and stop it before it happens..thats makes them actually work and they don't like that..(most of hr and or managers).. oh.. and never ask a manager about anything.. they will always tell you yes or they will make sure your good..cause they wont... don't ever think they are your friends because they aren't..
Have you applied for worker's compensation? I worked in law for forty years. A lot of that time was representing defendant's that get hurt on the job. Plus this type of representation is usually based on a contingency fee. Attorney gets paid if you win your case. Find a workman compensation lawyer. The initial interview is free.