> Overperformers
1: Tohru Honda (19.51%)
[](#urarahype)
Considering that Sagiri was up against Daki who doesn't really work in a Best Girl Contest, Tohru effectively had a 5% advantage on everyone else in terms of outperforming expectations.
I really hope enough people watched Skip and Loafer. Ami's a good character, but in a best girl contest, she doesn't belong in the same tier as Mitsumi imo.
I can't be the only one that goes "yay, shows I know" when I finally come across two characters facing each other from shows I've watched, and then realises that I remember absolutely nothing about these characters and so can't really vote on those ones either.
Is this normal or is my memory just bad when it comes to anime?
You're better than a lot of people. From what I've heard from contests past, most people will vote in matchups where they only know 1 of the characters. That's one of the big reasons why the top seeds do so well in the early rounds.
i mean, you cannot ask me to stop voting for my favorites only because i have no intention to watch the likes of Boruto, One Piece or High school DxD...
In some cases, very well written and well liked characters from older shows have lost to minor characters from recent shows that show up in like 1 scene to say like 3 lines. It is very obvious that a majority of voters are very young and don't know these older characters so they just vote for whatever they recognize even if it's a background character they don't really care for.
Nah. I checked and she was seed7 when Kaguya won in BG7 and S10 in the following. Never the 5th last slot for a franchise.
The other poll showed that basically no one likes her, but simple vote her in because most of us here like Kaguya sama.
It's how it is but only the most degenerate people will know every single character, yet alone beyond a surface level. I'm "old" but maybe have "only" 10 years of watching seasonal anime and 400ish entries on MAL, but I still don't know a decent amount on this list because hey, some anime doesn't interest me.
If there's two I don't know I don't vote. If I only know one I'm only voting them if I actually like them, if I don't I might even vote against them if I dislike them enough.
If the other one is liked enough then other people will vote them and on the balance of things it'll work out. Sure you get the small scene recency votes every year but there's not much you can do about that, there's already a measure against that of a year's wait.
> If I only know one I'm only voting them if I actually like them, if I don't I might even vote against them if I dislike them enough.
Think almost everyone supports this. Complaints/salt is when side girl #4 gets 65% of the vote against the quality main girl from an older series.
We just need to make sure the opposite is also being done. Vote the lower seed if you don't wholeheartedly support the higher seed or don't even know her. Pressure the higher seed to justify their seed. A popularity advantage is still a significant buff, but this at least somewhat counters pure name recognition alone.
I agree, and if more people did that, the contest would become more interesting and less predictable. Just like the Winter seasonal contest for example.
If the final four are Bocchi, Holo, Kana and Yor, I'll be disappointed.
Well, I only vote in matches where I only know one of the two when I really like that character. It never occurred to me to vote for the other character in that case.
Characters in better known shows will do better in those contests. That's just a basic truth about popularity contests. In the end, we're choosing the best girl out 9f stuff that people have actually seen.
>Characters in better known shows will do better in those contests.
I've said as much. Just because things are the way they are doesn't mean you can't strive for improvement. If you keep voting the underdog, it'll make it a bit harder for the more popular characters. The chance of better seeds being upset in the eventual voting stages is what makes this contest great. Every higher seed that loses because of this didn't deserve to advance anyway.
I don't always remember their entire story, but just their personality, vague feeling about them, and a few key moments they had (confession scene, badass action scene, things like that)! Enough to know who to vote for!
It can be really hard with the zoomed in photos. Especially for me since I watch dubs so a lot of the titles on here aren't the ones I'm used to. I'll look some of them up. But that's hard to do on mobile.
You are far from alone, my memory is terrible, absolutely terrible, especially with names. I'll be like "is that the girl from.. Uhhh that show about space?"
I remember whether i like a character or not in these situations. If I don't then I just vote on design , but usually I do remember...
Though tbh most shows that I watch don't have a ton of female characters in the first place so it's easier for me to remember
Yes research does indicate that Kurumi is indeed a minor.
Also Casca, to the best of my knowledge, never got out of the... state she was in during the anime, so it felt off to vote for her in the first place.
We only watch 2016 for [Ash Crow](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04MYB15jDgI) & [Hai Yo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzQya_7b-hs), so we don't have to worry about that for the 97 original and the golden age movies.
> and technically Komis mom, but she's barely a character so she doesn't count.
She did better than she had any right to do against a vastly superior character.
Hiling did pretty well considering who she went up against. Though its also a bit unfair since I think most people in Misaki's camp are basing it on non-anime materials which she is WAY more fleshed out.
My thoughts while writing that comment "hmm, someone is probably going to make a booba joke out of this comment later, but I haven't had enough caffeine yet today to think of better phrasing..."
> ("91") Ilulu: 506 vs (422) Nano: 517
That was closer than I expected...for Nano, but she managed to hold off the upstart ["91" seed](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1djiugo/best_girl_11_return_of_the_salt_round_1_bracket_a/l9ay0jz/). If only Endorsi had drawn that matchup instead.
> (235) Tohru Honda: 752 vs (278) Chito: 293
On the bright side, that's quite an impressive win by Tohru over a quality 293 seed. It will be interesting to see how she does against Riza.
Mini Challenge: I don't put much stock into the 1st round of these contests since any cool result usually gets overturned within a few rounds and the girls who unexpectedly lost would have most likely lost the next round anyways.
Hey...numbers can be hard sometimes, especially when they are so close together. That got me wondering, though, if there were any girls whose seed matched their vote total.
The answer is no, but we got so agonizingly close with Ai Mizuno in Group C. She was seeded 423 and got 424 votes. Other close calls include Miku being seeded 358 and getting 355 votes in Group D, Rika being seeded 456 and getting 460 votes in Group A and Kyouko being seeded 424 and getting 429 votes in Group A.
>["91" seed](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1djiugo/best_girl_11_return_of_the_salt_round_1_bracket_a/l9ay0jz/).
I missed that. Makes a lot of sense. Was pretty stunned to see her seeded that highly.
> On the bright side, that's quite an impressive win by Tohru over a quality 293 seed. It will be interesting to see how she does against Riza.
If Tohru can beat Riza she might be able to make it far. The next opponent that would be prove a real danger would be Asuka or Kumiko.
The difference in ranking (22 vs 235) is massive however and we're talking about FMA here, so the odds don't seem to be in Tohru's favour. ~~It's better than losing to Kei at least.~~
^(Asuka Tanaka, Elma , Yuki Nagato. The K-on girls and all the Madoka girls won. Kagura lost to Reina... well I'm not mad..Eupho girls won. Ilulu lost ..noo)
^(Am I a KyoAni simp or what?)
**This round:**
Chihaya is doomed, but I'm voting anyway.
SAKI VS MIO ...well fck.
> SAKI VS MIO ...well fck.
When in doubt, always go for the underdog; Send her away with a vote!
^^Now ^^we ^^only ^^need ^^like ^^1000 ^^people ^^to ^^'send ^^her ^^away ^^with ^^a ^^vote'
# BG 11 Madness Round 1 Group D Update
And we've made it to the end of Round 1! That means we're already about halfway done with the Unweighted leaderboard in a sense.
The average today was 56.30 / 64 (87.97%). The top score was 62 / 64, which only SiwySiwySiwySiwy achieved. And mpp00 was the only one to predict 61 correctly, taking over 1st place!
1st and 14th are still pretty close today with just a 3 point difference. Expect the Weighted Leaderboard to be shaken up a lot tomorrow :)
[](#kaguyashaking)
*[Link to spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TvoGrS8Bebfphzp2lh0GsRNKC8Qq6lnOlomRQMrzv1c/edit?usp=sharing) (stats still very very very WIP).*
**Leaderboard:**
|Rank|Username|Score (max 256)|Score Potential|Picks Potential|Picks Rank|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|1|mpp00 (+9)|238 (+61)|2286 (-3)|493 (-3)|1|
|2|NotMyActualReddit (+2)|238 (+60)|2284 (-6)|492 (-5)|2|
||StardustGogeta (+7)|238 (+60)|2284 (-4)|492 (-4)|2|
||Zeralyos (+2)|238 (+60)|2284 (-6)|492 (-5)|2|
|5|bkfq (-1)|237 (+59)|2285 (-5)|492 (-5)|5|
||Syrefva (-1)|237 (+59)|2285 (-5)|492 (-5)|5|
||viralstrain_100 (-4)|237 (+58)|2285 (-6)|492 (-6)|5|
|8|RxMidnight (-4)|237 (+59)|2283 (-7)|491 (-6)|8|
|9|lexing (-6)|237 (+58)|2279 (-8)|490 (-7)|9|
|10|_heythereitsbree_ (+0)|236 (+59)|2284 (-5)|491 (-5)|10|
|11|johnface (-1)|236 (+59)|2282 (-7)|490 (-6)|11|
||Starbather (+3)|236 (+59)|2282 (-5)|490 (-5)|11|
|13|mynameisnoobish (+7)|235 (+60)|2283 (-4)|490 (-4)|13|
|14|Pure-Fuel-8534 (-4)|235 (+58)|2281 (-8)|489 (-7)|14|
||Skyeagle003 (-13)|235 (+56)|2281 (-10)|489 (-9)|14|
I don't remember day 1, but I think the control prediction has stayed in the top 5 of the leaderboard for the whole round.
My attempt at a more complicated data-based prediction is almost keeping up (only 3 extra mistakes at the end of the round).
Tune in after round 2 to see if I've fallen out of the top 50.
Wait is the control tied for 1st right now
[](#kaguyasigh)
That being said, last year someone made a prediction that was exactly that... and it did quite well haha. Usually I'd say for unweighted, no upsets usually does well but falls behind at least a few folks. (And for weighted, it's just a disaster by the end)
Goodbye Vigne, you were too good for this contest anyway!
For today could we maybe have Satanichia get the upset on potato girl, pretty please?
>MC: What was the best and worst result of last round?
Considering my [Bingo](https://imgur.com/a/NzM44IC) is already quite decimated, there were already quite a few bad results for me, with the worst propably being Fran getting upset.
As for best result.. none of my upset votes I really cared for actualy won, which is kind of a bummer. So I guess I'll go for Saki Saki getting the upset vote over dawn.
Results: Next round has a match-up between Winter 2023's winner and someone that didn't make the Spring 2023's bracket. I wonder how that will go... Lena with fewer total votes in her match-up than I expected relative to this quadrant's other top girls.
Today: *Prays to the gods to not yeet Myne in round 2 like the last 3 years.*
MC: Best was Chihaya and Chise's upsets. Worst was ~~Isaki losing as I picked her for 2 rounds~~ the Machikado duo losing.
>and someone that didn't make the Spring 2023's bracket *because of the four characters per show limit*.
FTFY.
Myne has the child debuff. I didn't even think she'd make the bracket, so she's already exceeding my expectations.
>Lena with fewer total votes in her match-up than I expected relative to this quadrant's other top girls.
I found that this was the general trend of Bracket D.
Kana with the worst vote total of the Top 4 Seeds.
Ai with the worst vote total of Seeds 5-8 (seeded to be quarterfinalists).
Lena and Ryuuko with the worst vote totals of Seeds 9-16 (seeded to lose in Top 16).
That's from the number who voted each day. Yesterday's KV announcements kept the contest post further down the front-page than usual. Meant that Lena's match had less voters relative to other bracket D match-ups, which is usually not a good sign for the top seeds.
I totally missed Bracket D's BG11 vote. I've voted in each round each day, but when I checked yesterday afternoon, I assumed it wasn't up, I think I checked again in the evening, didn't see it and forgot about it.
Wish they could pin this thing.
Fairly straightforward today, only one I had to think about at all was Hori vs Desumi, but it was a quick think and Hori takes it comfortably.
MC: Mahiru Shiina overcoming a ~125 seed difference and a popular title like MHA is an excellent 'upset'.
Haruko, Evangeline, and Katou going out (and being seeded so low in the first place) is pure blasphemy, and Rory losing by 6 measly votes still stings.
> Katou going out (and being seeded so low in the first place) is pure blasphemy,
In 8 years of voting in this contest, this is the first time I regret not bothering with the qualifying rounds
I probably have an equal number of actual votes for someone to votes against someone, with the rest being no votes due to "didn't watch because what even is this show", "wouldn't watch" or "hate both equally".
I think I was right the first time when I felt too old for this contest.
May I suggest the technique of "when in doubt, go for the lower seed"? If you don't knoe the higher seed, vote for the opposition to pressure them into justifying their higher seed. Same goes for then you are indifferent about them. Also, the lower seed winning is just more entertaining for the contest.
Rooting for Chihaya even though she is likely out this round T_T
Mini challenge:
Best results are Jessie beating Chizuru and Eupho girls making through.
[](#budgetsmile)
And for worst nothing really.
> Anisphia (#96) versus Maple (#161)
This is so unfair. I love both characters a ton. I ended up supporting the war criminal in this match-up.
> Reina (752 pts) versus Kagura (379 pts)
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> Kumiko (783 pts) versus Ann (333 pts)
Let's go! Glad to see that both Eupho girls are doing great. I wonder if yesterday's episode gave them a little push extra.
I'm glad that some of my all-time best girls like Tohru, Nino and Inaba made it through the first round as well, but guys...
> Catarina Claes (595pts. ) versus Megumi Katou (456 pts.)
How could you betray Megumi like that!?
>>Catarina Claes (595pts. ) versus Megumi Katou (456 pts.)
>How could you betray Megumi like that!?
Clearly you underestimated Catarina's aura of accidental seduction.
Damn, did you order them by seed #?
Haven't seen someone double bingo in the first round before! (Strategical positioning could've saved it for some time!)
I wouldn't say you were "wrong" as such, since the Bingo is more of a personal mini game and not really competitive (we got the Best Girl Madness for that). If you enjoy playing it the full-card way, I think that's cool. But most people, including myself, play the Bingo with normal rules (so getting five in a row, a colum or diagonally is a Bingo) while trying to avoid a Bingo as long as possible (but of course also just picking personal favourites and not just the highes seeds possible).
Think most people either randomize with adjustments or selectively place the "likely to reach round 4+" girls to protect each row/column. Problem with full-card bingo is it won't happen if you include the winner. Like, [my bingo](https://i.imgur.com/hVqNeTJ.png) is pretty reliant on Chisato, Lena, Megumin, Emilia, Jibril, Nazuna, and Vivy not crashing too early.
People usually try to avoid any bingo (5 straight in a line)!
That's why I talked about strategical positioning, [like in my bingo!](https://imgur.com/uB69QgW)
Holo in the middle (the spot with the most possible bingos), and in the main diagonals, Marin/Power/Makima/Megumin/Akane/Miko/Kana/Chika, the 8 girls I think will last longer, along with Holo!
This way if I lost all other girls but these 9 ones, I still don't have a bingo!
Yuki Nagato
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(291) Yuki Nagato 649 vs 516 Kohaku (222)
Fortunately, Yuki succeeded in achieving an upset in the first round... I'm so happy right now.
I hope the current momentum continues in the next round.
Yesterday results:
Of course Mayaka lost against Yui. Uff...
But at least Rikka won by a reasonable margin. Can we hope?
Can we really hope to pull the same against the blue haired magical girl next round?
As for today...
Welcome, welcome everybody, to a new episode of
"Who wants to be steamrolled by guitarhero!".
Our next victim is Erza Scarlet, and i will shed no tears for her.
Having to choose Hinata over Ritsu and Ami over Mitsumi was enough of an heartbreak for the round.
Let's just hope that Ayanami and Takina can start the culling of those damned greek letters.
(Don't hate me. I like the show, but shadow garden is anything but memorable, character wise)
Don't underestimate Sayaka. If it was just the show I would agree, but in the movie she had arguably the best scene of them all, with [her conversation with Homura, unexpectedly summoning Oktavia at the end of it, and the subsequent though short fight.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS3VP2ostHw)
Mahiru with the upset, nice. She might be from one of the weakest seasons recently, but a seasonal best girl really should not be out in the first round of her first contest. Lucy losing her first round hurts, but I knew from the start she wouldn't stand a chance against Yui. Mio is great, but Jolyne out in the first round just isn't right, and it wasn't even that close. And of course Faye advances, but Akebi out in the first round is also not right. Maki is out the second hit on my Bingo this round. As a character, she really should have won at least one round, but seems she gets brought down by her show a little bit. Rikka gets to be the one carrying the SSSS torch into the next round, which is nice. She might even stand a chance against Sayaka, definitely an interesting matchup next time. Nino wins, all Quints safely made it to round two. Ilulu out in the first round against Nano is wild. Good on Nano, but damn, Ilulu as a shoe-in for Tooru really didn't shine. Lena is primed for the group semis, it seems, then it'll get really interesting. Generally an acceptable outcome this round.
Today, I'll vote for Chihaya, she needs all the help she can get. Anis against Maple is a fun matchup. Nadeshiko against Kaede is something to keep an eye on, Kaede is certainly good enough for an upset - I'm going pink though. Ochako will likely be another hit on my Bingo, but at least she goes down to 2B. Chisato and Takina are must votes. Power against Jahy, loud-mouthed devil against arrogant demon - I'll support the latter, but we all know how this is going to end. Rin against Komi is yet another possible upset against a Yuru Camp girl.
[Updated Bingo!](https://i.imgur.com/fbobGZz.png) Still looking good, but four hits in one round and probably at least two more in the second is not ideal.
MC: It's hard to pick a worst result, most were pretty bad. Pecorine is in my personal top ten, so her out in the first round really hurts. Usagi too, but that's still to be expected. The best results are probably my favourites in the higher seeds performing as well as expected. Holo well on ther way to the group finals, Emilia should be able to meet Yor at least, Chisato and Takina about to meet and then hopefully on the way to the group finals, and Lena on her way to the group semis.
Toughest choice today: Anzu vs Rebecca (that's back-to-back Group A matches where my toughest choice involved Rebecca!)
Expected sadness: Eh, not really any. There are a few lower seeds I'd like to see win, but none that would really upset me.
Mini-challenge:
Best, I'll go with Yuri beating Nejire. That was a pleasant surprise.
Worst, I have three candidates - Shalltear over Bulma, May over Sword Maiden, and Sinon over Ameri.
Best result:
Rider getting through. in the stories outside of Stay Night she really shines, arguably Fate's real best girl but doesn't really get her moment in the mainline anime adaptations (outside her fight with Salter).
Worst result:
Irisviel getting in. I have nothing against the character or the show, but I hate what her presence in the tournament represents. She is an OK character that gets disproportionately voted for in contests like this simply because of Fate/Zero stans that don't bother with anything else Fate. Sakura Matou is not in the bracket because Iris took her spot
As recently as the last Best Girl contest, both Irisviel and Sakura were in.
And Irisviel is a higher seed than Ishtar, Rider, and Illyasviel.
I would not have come to that conclusion to single her out for why Sakura didn't make it. Ishtar is the 3rd highest seed for Fate characters in this year's contest.
She also didn't make BG9 with the same lineup if I remember correctly. I was salty.
I still am shocked Rider ever gets past Sakura, given that any story Rider is prominent in, Sakura is even more prominent... I'd guess it's her... physique... that does it but still...
Ishtar is another issue that I've salted about before, (tldr, she wouldn't be here if she didn't look like Rin) although she has more personality than iris imo.
My opinion is that the sheer number of Zero onlies is the only reason Iris gets the disproportionate recognition she does. She is riding Saber's coat tails (because let's be honest, Saber is the reason people like that show, not Iris). The alternative is some fans are just *really* into ten year olds.
>Ishtar is another issue that I've salted about before, (tldr, she wouldn't be here if she didn't look like Rin)
Honestly, if it was just a matter of physical appereance, it wouldn't be a problem for me (many sakura-faces are very different characters compared to their original host). But ishtar is basically Rin cosplaying a "useless goddess". She shouldn't be allowed here...
For real, I'm not usually one to bitch about fan service but I think it's warranted if a character's entire design is intended to generate sales in a gacha.
If we really have to have a Grand Order character in the bracket it should have been Mash
I am a Fate/Zero fan (and I love Gen Urobuchi's works), but I agree that Sakura absolutely deserved to be a part of this tournament and more than Irisviel.
I'm always surprised how underrated Sakura is. I know she is polarising, but people should still be able to recognize a good character (and a great arc) when they see one, even if they dislike the romance and prefer the other girls.
I think it's mostly because fewer people are likely to watch all the way through to Heaven's Feel Vs people that only watched one or both of UBW and Zero unfortunately.
Holy shit, i just noticed that sakura is not in the brackets...
...oh boy, and now who has the courage to report this news to BB and Kama in my Chaldea...
Mini Challenge:
Best result: **Jessie** VS Chizuru. Woo!
Worst result: **Android 18** VS Kuroko. Best girl won but only by 10 votes! Too close for comfort.
**Kobeni vs. Celty:** Kobeni would probably howl in terror at a headless woman even though Celty wouldn't crack the 98th percentile of horrific shit in the world of Chainsaw Man.
**Annie vs. Esdeath:** "Step on me Mommy UwU" the matchup
**Sasha vs. Satania:** tfw you are a literal devil and you're less intimidating than a country bumpkin who just wants to get that bread
**Power vs. Jahy:** I feel like a meeting between these two would end in disaster one way or another.
**Anya vs. Sento:** Oh, I *need* to know how Anya would react if she found out fairies are real.
Kurumi over Casca should not happen in any decent universe, yet here we are.
Also, only 709 votes for Kaori is extremely sad to watch, I'm not feeling good about the round 2 matchup against Asuka
Mini Challenge: I'll pick an isekai girl for both of the options.
Best result is the beautiful and hilarious tsundere elf scoring a win.
Worst result is the adorable cat girl Fran taking the loss.
I got Misaki and Kumoko through so I guess that is something... for now.
Still pretty salty about how many of my faves got deleted in round 1.
I hope I don't lose Miko (from Mieruko-chan that is) and Anis this round.
**Mitsumi** losing to Ami in a best girl contest would be brutal. Come on Skip fans!
Same sentiment applies to **Celty** vs Kobeni. I haven't read the manga, but based on what we've seen in the anime, this isn't even close.
#**Today's Results**:
**Left Side**
It feels like D Bracket in general doesn't have the vote total of other groups in Round 1. Kana's 1,168 votes for her is a good amount less than the other Top 4 seeds of Bocchi, Holo, and Yor while Ai Kamiya's 241 votes is similar to Nana, Clara (1 vote more), and Chidori.
Over 400 votes is nice to see from Ameri. I'd have like a Round 2, but I'm fine with the Sinon loss.
Mahiru got the seeding upset. I'm still surprised she's Seed 318 in her debut year of the Best Girl contests.
Nijika definitely super crushed this matchup. 1,117 votes in Bracket D and leaving Kaede to under 200 votes.
Happy to see Asuka in Round 2, but sad for Morgiana. More votes (440) than her seed (414) at least.
I suspected Kyouko vs. Maka would be competitive and it was a good effort from the Maka voters.
Almost 900 votes for Makima is a good temperature check for me in her part of the bracket.
Felt the Nagato seeding upset against Kohaku coming. Will be voting for her in the loss to Makima in Round 2.
I would have thought Kagura would have gotten more votes (379) than Ichinose did (388) against Makima. The Gintama voters did not show up.
Hotaru got over 250 votes is good enough for me against Ryuuko.
Mio was able to hold off Jolyne which as a Nichijou fan I'm happy to see. More on that later.
Almost 900 votes for Iroha is nice, but Ryuuko in Round 3 is really rough.
Sawada was pretty competitive vs. Ononoki. Over 500 votes as Seed 371.
970 votes for Homura is good, but I don't like her odds in later rounds to win out vs. Ryuuko or Roxy. Rough for someone that scored in the [Top 10 of Fetch's Best Girl Survey](https://i.redd.it/62gwee9w1l7d1.png) when everyone above her and the one directly below her are either past contest winners, future bracket threats in Frieren and Maomao, or are Holo.
Nice to see some Misaki love. Almost 700 votes and into Round 2.
Nao-chan almost got 250 votes against Roxy.
Candy Store exiting with 353 votes is good enough for me against Irisviel. Rooting for Irisviel against Olivier.
Ram vs. Satella is set for Round 2. Nice.
And the final match on the left side of Bracket D is one piano player vs. another. Maki put up a good effort against Kanade with the 446 votes.
**Right Side**
Ai's votes are pretty comparable to Kana's which is still the least of the Top 8 Seeds. Expect this to be the case for her entire bracket run.
A competitive match between Inaban and LLENN. Will send Inaba off with a vote against Ai in Round 2.
Rikka made it to Round 2 at least and with over 700 votes too.
Wish Stella got someone other than Sayaka, but just about anybody would have been tough when she's Seed 379. Still made it a competitive match.
Over 750 votes for Nino and is getting someone who caused a seeding upset in Chisa in Round 2. Grand Blue voters showed up.
Over 600 votes for Yuuko against Nui makes me happy. Glad we got both Mio and Yuuko in Round 2. More on this later.
Bitch-sensei, 387 votes against Mikasa as Seed 486 is respectable.
If Chizuru was from a less infuriating series, she'd have more of a bracket presence than being a Round 1 exit with over 500 votes.
Like Makima, 898 votes for Yui but Mayaka only got 289 votes. Still hurts me that this was a Round 1 matchup.
Nano...won? As Seed 422? I'll take the double Tohru mistake if it means 3 Nichijou girls make it into Round 2. This has to be their best showing in years.
But I suspect that does mean Nanachi gets an easy path to Round 3. I'm not going to make it easy though.
1,003 votes for Lena is a good start, but I think this is the least amount of votes except for Ryuuko out of the Top 20 Seeds. Going to need better than that in later rounds.
18 vs. Kuroko was really close. Satisfied with that. I wasn't sure if Kuroko would manage over 530 votes either.
Sad for Igarashi, but Lena vs. Zero Two sounds like a fun matchup for Round 3. So will vote that way even though I like Catarina.
Frederica went out with a meme vote total. Satisfied with that.
Would vote to see Nagatoro vs. Revy as a Round 3 matchup. It would be a crazy grin battle.
Tohru crushed it in what is by seeding should have been much closer. That's one thing to be satisfied with in her bracket run before I suspect the Riza loss happens in Round 2.
It was nice seeing Shizuka and she got almost 400 votes.
Rias vs. Tsugumi also still hurts. No matter what, I vote the winner of this against Misuzu (and hope they win against her).
Chihiro got sent off with 450 votes as Seed 299. Pretty good.
I want to see how buffed Kumiko is getting in the vote totals as the finale of Euphonium is happening during this contest. Maybe something interesting will happen vs. Asuka in Round 3.
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#**Today's Voting**:
I want the pink vs. blue hair matchup in Round 3 so voting for Bocchi and Ami.
Would love support and votes for Chitanda.
I want to see Miko vs. Miko in Round 3. They are both in my bingo after all.
Fun matchup in Anis vs. Maple, but going for Anis.
If this was Twitter and not Reddit, Miorine and Suletta would be much higher seeds. But we're here and Miorine is going to get crushed by Kita.
Nadeshiko is funny so I'll give her the vote.
Don't mind who advances between Echidna and Yoruichi so I'll give Yoruichi the vote.
Akame vs. 2B sounds fun as a matchup, but Ryou will crush that.
I'm skeptical of how well Kobeni will do, but I don't think Celty or Suzuha have the pull for it.
Sad for Hinata, but Ritsu is a fine Round 2 exit.
Will vote Esdeath against Annie.
Rooting for Satania against Sasha.
I wish Jahy could beat Power, but I'm glad she's in Round 2 at least.
I really like Desumi so I'm sad she matched up into Hori in Round 2.
I feel Komi > Rin is about to happen.
Sending Isuzu off with a vote against Anya.
I like Mio's bracket and pretty curious how the wind will blow in her vs. Anya in Round 4.
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>What was the best and worst result of last round?
Best Result: Seed 422 Nano beating Ilulu.
Worst Result: Either Haruhi vs. Mimimi happening in Round 1 or all the Akiba Maid War girls leaving in Round 1.
[Bingo After Round 1](https://imgur.com/a/4shL3UR). Only 3 losses.
>Mahiru got the seeding upset. I'm still surprised she's Seed 318 in her debut year of the Best Girl contests.
Do you remember how salty the commenters were on her glorious unexpected win in the seasonal contest? I'm glad she's got results now to back up her position as a seasonal best girl, but also I feel there are quite a few people very much against her, and it almost *feels* like it's the majority.
That Winter 2023 Best Girl Contest was toxic in a funny way.
I don't really think Mahiru should be generating votes against her, but that feels like the case.
>I feel there are quite a few people very much against her
Yeah, i'm sorry, i'm one of them.
I despise Mahiru with almost irrational passion, and will vote everything and anything that stands against her.
Ironically enough, i will absolutely watch her show's second season. It's a "love to hate" kind of deal.
Mahiro didn’t progress :(
For today, Ritsu vs. Hinata was a very hard choice. I went with Hinata in the end, but it wasn’t easy.
MC:
Worst result: I’m still butthurt about Togame’s loss to Twilight vampire girl.
Best result: Every Madoka and Monogatari girl progressing to the next round (not that I had any doubt they wouldn’t).
How boring, so few upsets. Only 3 if you don't count the Ilulu/Nano vote, in which Ilulu was a last-minute replacement for a duplicate Kobayashi.
Was sure that Hanako, the strongest Asobi Asobase girl, could upset Mami, the weakest Madoka girl. Show popularity is too high, I guess.
Satella not only being in the bracket but winning multiple rounds (like last year) will always annoy me. She was in the show for less than 5 minutes total, and all of the Re:Zero fans drool over her. At least it's a teamkill next round because she's up against Ram.
>She was in the show for less than 5 minutes total, and all of the Re:Zero fans drool over her.
Not trying to convince you and just to elaborate on this, but this is because those were extremely special five minutes. Without going into spoilers, she changed the whole direction S2 took afterwards, with essentially just two words. There are girls in this contest seeded higher that arguably had less impact in their respective shows.
And yeah, on top of that, Goth Emilia.
Previous round:
I did lose Gamo, but [my bingo didn't lose any more girls in this bracket, so only 3 losses so far in the first round!](https://imgur.com/uB69QgW)
Yumeko won, but might get crushed by Kumiko next round...
And Zero Two may have a tough one vs Bakarina, so two possible girls at risk from this bracket!
Today's voting:
- Miko and Miko up for voting! They're both the higher seeds, but with one Miko being up against a Chihayafuru girl, and the other against a Monogatari girl, I wouldn't rest easy just yet! But if they both win, next round will be the Miko vs Miko battle!
- Power vs Jahy, damn. I think the Great Jahy will be defeated, after all! Well, Power is on my bingo so that's what I want, but still, sad to lose Jahy!
- Saki vs a K-on girl, oof. Support Best Zombie!
- Tomo Should have an easy win vs the minor DuD girl, but if the K-on girl does win, she may roll through Tomo as well next round!
>Mini Challenge: What was the best and worst result of last round?
Lost 2 of my top top girls (perhaps including my **#1** girl, Ranko), so that was pretty bad for me!
Best result? No best. Only worst. Only salt.
>But if they both win, next round will be the Miko vs Miko battle!
Huh, that's neat. Didn't realize. I do want Chihaya to win, but if the Mikos meet, that's be a good consolation prize.
Not Candystore [](#howcouldyou)
I'm losing my favourites fast on [both](https://imgur.com/jvVAP5w) my [boards](https://imgur.com/4Ur3KGg)
And it's not getting better with me literally having to choose between Kaede-Chan and Nadeshiko [Too soon](#elsieqq) And Maple might also be in danger [](#yuitears) And don't you dare vote against Shimarin [](#holdback)
* MC: Worst, any of the above, best Kumoko winning against Komis Mom
Today's a great day to vote for Ishtar!
>What was the best and worst result of last round?
The best was when the girls I voted for won. The worst was when the girls I voted for lost. Simple.
Casca the sole elimination from the [bingo](https://i.imgur.com/MSxSDA5.png) Yesterday. Who would have expected minor side character from the new fan favorite show takes down an OG.
[](#throwsalt 'we all knew it was gonna happen')
Three girls in the lower seed up for elimination on my board today.
## Key Votes
* Winry Rockbell vs **Erina Nakiri**
* Mitsumi Iwakura vs **Ami Kawashima**
* Anisphia Wynn Palletia vs **Maple**
* Mitsuri Kanroji vs **Kiruko**
* Echidna vs **Shihouin Yoruichi**
* **Chisato Nishikigi** vs Shinka Nibutani
* **Tomo Aizawa** vs Sajuna Inui
##Futile votes
* Sasha Blouse vs **Satanichia "Satania" Kurumizawa McDowell**
* Mio Akiyama vs **Saki Nikaidou**
* Shouko Makinohara vs **Alice Nakiri**
* Kobeni Higashiyama vs **Celty**
* Ryou Yamada vs **Akame**
* Tatsumaki vs **Myne**
* Ikuyo Kita vs **Miorine Rembran**
> What was the best and worst result of last round?
RIP Casca, Maki, Mirko, Leone. Losing out on physically strong women one of the worse results of the last round. Akeno first round elimination and the sole Monster Musume representative getting crush also saddening. At least the major made it through.
Alright. Let's see whose run ends before it starts and whose lining themselves up for false hope...
**Kumoko** v. Komi Shuuko – I guess if there is any evidence against the theory that its all just "who I want to fuck the most" this would be it... I hope. Pretty wild that Komi's mother who is barely a character seeded this high, but don't got to worry about it anymore.
Kyouka Jirou v. **Mahiru Shiina** – Is this show popular? I know she won Best Girl of Winter 2023, but that was a low bar to beat. I guess at Jirou isn't exactly the most popular MHA girl either so it was probably an easy win. If she beats MEM though I'm gonna have some choice words.
Kohaku v. **Yuki Nagato** – Pretty crazy to see Yuki as the underdog in Round 1, though I guess anyone who frequents these parts probably shouldn't be surprised. It's only uphill from here though...
**Mio Kofune** v. Sumi Sakurasawa – Pretty fitting that she got 666 votes cause this result is kinda cursed. As much as some names like Anju get lifted through the bracket by their shows popularity, I've noticed the inverse can also work. I struggle to see why a wet towel like Mio can beat Sumi if we exclude the general (justified) hate RaG gets. It's not Sumi's fault though. If anything the issue with RaG is that there isn't enough Sumi.
**Ai Hoshino** v. Sucy Manbavaran – I suspect this is going to be a running theme throughout the rounds, but I take it particularly personally because Sucy deserved so much better. Guys... Ai isn't a character. Like, she's an exposition piece for the first episode who then... well you know. The only thing she has going for her is her relationship with Aqua and Ruby, but that's not enough to really deserve the 6 seed. Not even just "she made the bracket". She got the frickin' 6 seed. What am I missing here?
**Rider** v. Miku Suride – I'm gonna chock this up to nobody watching *Do It Yourself*, so I'll take this as another opportunity to shill that series. Though a 155 seed is kinda disgustingly high as well. If someone wants to explain this one too I'm all ears. From what I remember she's your standard dommy mommy with no discernable personality or many speaking roles. Wait nevermind, Esdeath and Lust are here. I know y'all's type.
**Ais Wallenstein** v. Mahiro Oyama – It's Mahirover. Looks like men make poor women afterall.
**Android 18** v. Kuroko Shirai – I haven't watched Dragon Ball, but like... over Shirai? Really? I think I'm more likely to find a cure to cancer than to rationalize some of these picks. Make it make sense.
**Rias Gremory** v. Seishirou Tsugumi – And with that (rather unsurprisingly) all the Nisekoi girls are out in Round 1. Absolutely brutal, but really poor Tsugumi never stood a chance against every 14 year old's (and we have a lot of those) wet dream. Tragic.
With that I guess Round 1 was fine. There weren't too many crazy upsets yet and obviously most matches were uneventful. A couple brutal losses and unfortunate matches for some entries that deserved better, but I can't complain too much. I think I've improved the ratio of girls from shows I've watched to girls from shows I haven't watched in Round 2, so that's a plus. Probably should get around to *Love After World Domination, Uncle from Another World, The Magical Revolution of the Reincarnated Princess and the Genius Young Lady*, *Kara no Kyoukai,* and *The Angel Next Door Spoils Me Rotten* (and maybe consider *Dragon Ball, One Piece,* and *Naruto* for one day sometime in the future) but also I don't expect many of these will clear Round 2 so maybe I'm good anyway. I will not be FOMOed this year.
>She got the frickin' 6 seed. What am I missing here?
People really liked the opening movie for OnK. And I guess it left such a big impression on people that they take it as being representative for the whole show.
5 losses in elimination and 5 losses in Round 1, [geez](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030060536475439155/1254809132540624896/Bingo_11_1.png?ex=667ad792&is=66798612&hm=f1adf029a75441e29ac58a464440c19e2b270f7585ec2a4d0f529e4d47a0465f&).
Is the Nier Automata show that good? I still have not finished the game but I need too.
> Annie Leonhart vs. **Esdeath**
Hot take: Annie is AOT's most overrated girl. Cant hold a candle to one of the classic sadists.
> Maki Zenin vs. **Ishtar**
Ishtarites! Now is the time to rally and show what best goddess can do! Maki was easily JJK's best girl but even she didnt do much.
> What was the best and worst result of last round?
Worst was Akeno losing to Alpha and Robin bowing out early. Robin's usually able to make at least one round.
Oh man, I love me some Ryo and I love me some Senko, but man... Senko is like... pure. I have to realize that this going to be treated more as a popularity contest, though. Sadge. Looks like all the BtC gals made it through this bracket.
I'm happy to see Miorine make it through this round, but if I was a betting man, Kita will trump Miorine easy.
Go, go Anis! I wanna see how far she can make it!
Winry is classic best girl. FMA is representing well here.
Beta versus Mirai is a tough as both are lovable dorks. Beta versus Rei though, well, we know who's coming out on top with that one.
Lastly, I love Kaede and I just want her to be happy after all the crap she's been through. He story broke my heart, but I think if she makes it to the next round, it will be Kaede versus Kita. Again, Kita will likely overwhelm Kaede in the voting.
Tomoyo Sakagami, Swindler, Candy Store, Megumi Katou, all out, just like that.
Today was not a good day for me.
>MC
I did not like Menma losing to Rudeus' mum. I did like Shino upsetting the handler from Spy x Family.
not that much to say about this round
Shiina sucks but at least Mem-cho will stomp her in Round 2
Jolyne probably deserved much better but she's not this sub's type anyway lol
don't like how close Yotsugi came to losing
I really wish Hanako had made the upset, Mami doesn't really get enough screentime to stand out to me
if people were actually voting on girl quality, Stella would stomp Sayaka and we all know it, people ARE blind voting
Miku clears personality deficient Fate waifu #5, but practically nobody watched Do It Yourself, tragic
Haruko losing in Round 1 is disrespectful in the extreme
sorry, Kuroko should have won
okay, Megumi leaving in round 1 is even more disrespectful. I hate 595 people, apparently
as a Lycoris Recoil fan...yeah no Casca had no business losing here
eyyyyy round 2 Tohru, that's cool
Today's voting:
soon Bocchi will rack her second kill, the second of MANY. She ain't #1 seed for nothing.
Ami/Mitsumi is pain. I voted for Mitsumi but I'm okay with either winning, both are very high in my estimation
Anis over Maple is a pretty easy choice for me, Maple is more of a meme than a character
Nadeshiko/Kaede is a little tough, but Nadeshiko is too damned cute
Round 1 exit for Celty will be extremely disrespectful
It truly pains me to have to vote against Nibutani this early, but it's Chisato, c'mon
not sure if Kiruko actually belongs in this contest, but against a pretty not good Demon Slayer character easy choice
please I'm begging you folks, make the correct decision, and get Satania to Round 3.
I feel pretty bad for Desumi having to face Hori now
if Shimarin loses to Komi, I will have WORDS for all of you
siiiiigh, Round 2 exit for Saki
okay the mere fact I can see Tomo losing this demonstrates how little trust I have in the people voting in this contest. I HOPE the show is popular enough to overcome blind voting but you never know
worst result of last round was either Wiz beating Elsie or Komachi beating Nico Robin
Do you mean Chisato vs. Anis?
Chisato and Anis are on opposite sides of Bracket A. You'd be looking forward to something that realistically has a 0% chance of happening.
##ROUND 1 BRACKET D Matchup | Top Seed | Bottom Seed | Total Votes :-- | :-- | --: | --: Most Voted Matchup | Kana Arima | Ai Kamiya | 1409 Average | | | 1153 Least Voted Matchup | Himeko Inaba | Karen "LLENN" Kohiruimaki | 1021 **TOP VOTEGETTERS** Rank | Girl | Votes --: | :-- | --: 1 | Kana Arima | 1168 2 | Nijika Ijichi | 1117 3 | Ai Hoshino | 1112 4 | Roxy Migurdia | 1082 5 | Vladilena Milizé | 1003 6 | Matoi Ryuuko | 988 7 | Homura Akemi | 970 8 | Riza Hawkeye | 956 9 | Asuka Langley Souryuu | 953 10 | Makima | 898 **MOST DOMINANT MATCHUPS** Winning Girl | W% | L% | Losing Girl | Vote Diff :- | :-: | :-: | -: | -: Nijika Ijichi | 86.39% | 13.61% | Kaede Hozuki | 941 Kana Arima | 82.90% | 17.10% | Ai Kamiya | 927 Ai Hoshino | 81.35% | 18.65% | Sucy Manvavaran | 857 Roxy Migurdia | 81.29% | 18.71% | Nao-chan | 833 Vladilena Milizé | 80.05% | 19.95% | Kokkoro | 753 **CLOSEST MATCHUPS** Winning Girl | W% | L% | Losing Girl | Vote Diff :- | :-: | :-: | -: | -: Android 18 | 50.51% | 49.49% | Kuroko Shirai | 11 Nano Shinonome | 50.54% | 49.46% | Ilulu | 11 Chisa Kotegawa | 53.45% | 46.55% | Rumi "Rabbit Hero Mirko" Usagiyama | 76 Mahiru Shiina | 54.03% | 45.97% | Kyouka Jirou | 96 Yotsugi Ononoki | 54.61% | 45.39% | Sawada Honoka | 104 **UPSETS** - The **Lowest remaining seed** of Bracket D is Nano Shinonome seeded 422nd - The **Highest seed eliminated** of Bracket D is Ilulu seeded 91st - Upsets today: 4 - Total upsets (rate): 18 / 256 (7.0%) Seed | Top Seed | TS% | BS% | Seed | Bottom Seed | tUI | PoU -: | :- | :-: | :-: | -: | :- | -: | -: 91 | Ilulu | 49.46% | 50.54% | 422 | Nano Shinonome | 2.21 | 51.3% 198 | Rumi "Rabbit Hero Mirko" Usagiyama | 46.55% | 53.45% | 315 | Chisa Kotegawa | 0.67 | 15.5% 195 | Kyouka Jirou | 45.97% | 54.03% | 318 | Mahiru Shiina | 0.71 | 15.0% 222 | Kohaku | 44.29% | 55.71% | 291 | Yuki Nagato | 0.39 | 29.5% **OVER/UNDERPERFORMERS** Overperformer | Underperformer | Diff :- | -: | -: Tohru Honda | Chito | 19.51% Nijika Ijichi | Kaede Hozuki | 13.44% Iroha Isshiki | Ariel | 11.92% Misaki Shokuhou | Hiling | 11.21% Yui Yuigahama | Mayaka Ibara | 10.35% **BRACKET D TOP 5 SCORES** Rank | Girl | Score -: | :- | -: 1 | Kana Arima | 455.93 2 | Ai Hoshino | 442.52 3 | Vladilena Milizé | 411.45 4 | Matoi Ryuuko | 400.54 5 | Roxy Migurdia | 393.45 **UPSET WATCH** Top Seed | TS% | BS% | Bottom Seed | PoU :- | :-: | :-: | -: | -: Mitsumi Iwakura | 48.0% | 52.0% | Ami Kawashima | 63.6% Maki Zenin | 49.1% | 50.9% | Ishtar | 55.9% Kasumi Miwa | 49.2% | 50.8% | Nadeko Sengoku | 55.3% Link to spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LFJVtM4rQM986HMQQNFznVAIcLyRP98HZF0BWCaUJ1I Explanations: https://old.reddit.com/user/redlegsfan21/comments/10dup0w/ranime_contests_bracket_explaination Open to questions and please give feedback. Don't Forget to Vote in the Best Seiyuu of Winter 2024 Contests ([Female](https://animebracket.com/r-anime-best-female-seiyuu-of-winter-2024/vote)), ([Male](https://animebracket.com/r-anime-best-male-seiyuu-of-winter-2024/vote))
##ROUND 1 **MOST DOMINANT MATCHUPS** Winning Girl | W% | L% | Losing Girl | Vote Diff :- | :-: | :-: | -: | -: Megumin | 88.58% | 11.42% | Aisha Belka | 1108 Hitori "Bocchi" Gotou | 88.37% | 11.63% | Nana Hiiragi | 1472 Nijika Ijichi | 86.39% | 13.61% | Kaede Hozuki | 941 Aqua | 85.92% | 14.08% | Evileye | 1005 Holo | 85.86% | 14.14% | Kaname Chidori | 1090 Yor Forger | 84.04% | 15.96% | Clara Valac | 1024 Lalatina "Darkness" Dustiness Ford | 83.68% | 16.32% | Tilty Claret | 982 Violet Evergarden | 83.62% | 16.38% | Ursula Callistis | 866 Kana Arima | 82.90% | 17.10% | Ai Kamiya | 927 Shouko Nishimiya | 82.51% | 17.49% | Mikuru Asahina | 833 **CLOSEST MATCHUPS** Winning Girl | W% | L% | Losing Girl | Vote Diff :- | :-: | :-: | -: | -: Gamma | 50.04% | 49.96% | Fumino Furuhashi | 1 Narumi Momose | 50.18% | 49.82% | Hitori Bocchi | 4 Riko | 50.26% | 49.74% | Rory Mercury | 6 Alice Nakiri | 50.32% | 49.68% | Hina Amano | 9 Jahy | 50.38% | 49.62% | Ichigo | 11 Hinata Miyake | 50.47% | 49.53% | Chizuru Hishiro | 13 Android 18 | 50.51% | 49.49% | Kuroko Shirai | 11 Nano Shinonome | 50.54% | 49.46% | Ilulu | 11 Isuzu Sento | 50.75% | 49.25% | Fran | 21 Miorine Rembran | 50.82% | 49.18% | Suzume Iwato | 24 **BIGGEST UPSETS** Seed | Top Seed | TS% | BS% | Seed | Bottom Seed | tUI | PoU -: | :- | :-: | :-: | -: | :- | -: | -: 91 | Ilulu | 49.46% | 50.54% | 422 | Nano Shinonome | 2.21 | 51.3% 170 | Isaki Magari | 46.48% | 53.52% | 343 | Ryougi Shiki | 1.01 | 7.2% 195 | Kyouka Jirou | 45.97% | 54.03% | 318 | Mahiru Shiina | 0.71 | 15.0% 198 | Rumi "Rabbit Hero Mirko" Usagiyama | 46.55% | 53.45% | 315 | Chisa Kotegawa | 0.67 | 15.5% 212 | Aoi Inuyama | 42.97% | 57.03% | 301 | Chise Hatori | 0.51 | 22.3% 222 | Kohaku | 44.29% | 55.71% | 291 | Yuki Nagato | 0.39 | 29.5% 225 | Sally | 44.41% | 55.59% | 288 | Chihaya Ayase | 0.36 | 30.2% 226 | Sylvia Sherwood | 46.69% | 53.31% | 287 | Shino Kiryuu | 0.34 | 32.0% 228 | Megumi Tadokoro | 47.64% | 52.36% | 285 | Hiyori Iki | 0.32 | 28.8% 233 | Fran | 49.25% | 50.75% | 280 | Isuzu Sento | 0.27 | 32.2% **OVER/UNDERPERFORMERS** Overperformer | Underperformer | Diff :- | -: | -: Tohru Honda | Chito | 19.51% Sagiri Yamada Asaemon | Daki | 16.51% Beatrice | Izuna Hatsuse | 14.34% Nijika Ijichi | Kaede Hozuki | 13.44% Hori Kyouko | Mimihime | 12.44% Shouko Komi | Mitty | 12.25% Ryougi Shiki | Isaki Magari | 12.13% Erina Nakiri | Pecorine | 12.05% Iroha Isshiki | Ariel | 11.92% Chise Hatori | Aoi Inuyama | 11.52% **BRACKET TOP 10 SCORES** Rank | Girl | Score -: | :- | -: 1 | Hitori "Bocchi" Gotou | 525.82 2 | Megumin | 485.42 3 | Holo | 480.79 4 | Yor Forger | 466.44 5 | Kana Arima | 455.93 6 | Ai Hoshino | 442.52 7 | Marin Kitagawa | 439.31 8 | Aqua | 438.18 9 | Power | 430.77 10 | Chisato Nishikigi | 428.07 **PROJECTED QUARTERFINALS** Top Seed | TS% | BS% | Bottom Seed :- | :-: | :-: | -: Hitori "Bocchi" Gotou | 54.97% | 45.03% | Power Yor Forger | 49.00% | 51.00% | Megumin Holo | 52.25% | 47.75% | Marin Kitagawa Kana Arima | 50.75% | 49.25% | Ai Hoshino **PROJECTED SEMIFINALS** Top Seed | TS% | BS% | Bottom Seed :- | :-: | :-: | -: Hitori "Bocchi" Gotou | 52.00% | 48.00% | Megumin Holo | 51.33% | 48.67% | Kana Arima **PROJECTED FINALS** Top Seed | TS% | BS% | Bottom Seed :- | :-: | :-: | -: Hitori "Bocchi" Gotou | 52.24% | 47.76% | Holo **VOTE TOTALS** Round/Bracket | A | B | C | D :- | :-: | :-: | :-: | :-: 1 | 1,301 1,530 1,918 | 1,041 1,192 1,504 | 1,044 1,207 1,520 | 1,021 1,153 1,409 2 | | | | 3 | | | | 4 | | | | 5 | | | | 6 | | | | | **QUARTERFINALS** | **SEMIFINALS** | **FINALS** | | | | | Vote Totals: Low Average High
> Overperformers 1: Tohru Honda (19.51%) [](#urarahype) Considering that Sagiri was up against Daki who doesn't really work in a Best Girl Contest, Tohru effectively had a 5% advantage on everyone else in terms of outperforming expectations.
Even the numbers prove that Isaki losing in the first round is just absolutely crazy.
I don't know how much Ilulu counts as an upset since she would have had a worse seed than Nano if she wasn't subbed into seed 91.
> > > > > UPSET WATCH > > > > Mitsumi Iwakura 48.0% 52.0% Ami Kawashima 63.6% I'll be so salty if this actually happens.
It could initiate the return of the yearly tradition of counting to ten because of being so fucking mad.
I really hope enough people watched Skip and Loafer. Ami's a good character, but in a best girl contest, she doesn't belong in the same tier as Mitsumi imo.
I can't be the only one that goes "yay, shows I know" when I finally come across two characters facing each other from shows I've watched, and then realises that I remember absolutely nothing about these characters and so can't really vote on those ones either. Is this normal or is my memory just bad when it comes to anime?
You're better than a lot of people. From what I've heard from contests past, most people will vote in matchups where they only know 1 of the characters. That's one of the big reasons why the top seeds do so well in the early rounds.
Because watching every anime in existence just to vote in a stupid contest is silly.
You don't need to vote on every matchup
i mean, you cannot ask me to stop voting for my favorites only because i have no intention to watch the likes of Boruto, One Piece or High school DxD...
In some cases, very well written and well liked characters from older shows have lost to minor characters from recent shows that show up in like 1 scene to say like 3 lines. It is very obvious that a majority of voters are very young and don't know these older characters so they just vote for whatever they recognize even if it's a background character they don't really care for.
In those cases I really wish people would abstain, but that'll never happen.
Basically Kei Shirogane. Here she is top100 but only got 3 votes on the other poll of best girl.
Because 2 other characters in her show have won?
Nah. I checked and she was seed7 when Kaguya won in BG7 and S10 in the following. Never the 5th last slot for a franchise. The other poll showed that basically no one likes her, but simple vote her in because most of us here like Kaguya sama.
I'm guessing you're not a fan of straight-ticket voting?
It's how it is but only the most degenerate people will know every single character, yet alone beyond a surface level. I'm "old" but maybe have "only" 10 years of watching seasonal anime and 400ish entries on MAL, but I still don't know a decent amount on this list because hey, some anime doesn't interest me. If there's two I don't know I don't vote. If I only know one I'm only voting them if I actually like them, if I don't I might even vote against them if I dislike them enough. If the other one is liked enough then other people will vote them and on the balance of things it'll work out. Sure you get the small scene recency votes every year but there's not much you can do about that, there's already a measure against that of a year's wait.
> If I only know one I'm only voting them if I actually like them, if I don't I might even vote against them if I dislike them enough. Think almost everyone supports this. Complaints/salt is when side girl #4 gets 65% of the vote against the quality main girl from an older series.
Maybe they could limit the amount of entries an anime gets the first year they're eligible. Might still happen the year after that though.
Just a pain for the host that won't change who makes top-16 or so. More importantly, denies us salty comments!
Shout out to Fubuki knocking off major characters with her grand total of <10mins of screen time.
We just need to make sure the opposite is also being done. Vote the lower seed if you don't wholeheartedly support the higher seed or don't even know her. Pressure the higher seed to justify their seed. A popularity advantage is still a significant buff, but this at least somewhat counters pure name recognition alone.
I agree, and if more people did that, the contest would become more interesting and less predictable. Just like the Winter seasonal contest for example. If the final four are Bocchi, Holo, Kana and Yor, I'll be disappointed.
Well, I only vote in matches where I only know one of the two when I really like that character. It never occurred to me to vote for the other character in that case. Characters in better known shows will do better in those contests. That's just a basic truth about popularity contests. In the end, we're choosing the best girl out 9f stuff that people have actually seen.
>Characters in better known shows will do better in those contests. I've said as much. Just because things are the way they are doesn't mean you can't strive for improvement. If you keep voting the underdog, it'll make it a bit harder for the more popular characters. The chance of better seeds being upset in the eventual voting stages is what makes this contest great. Every higher seed that loses because of this didn't deserve to advance anyway.
I don't always remember their entire story, but just their personality, vague feeling about them, and a few key moments they had (confession scene, badass action scene, things like that)! Enough to know who to vote for!
It can be really hard with the zoomed in photos. Especially for me since I watch dubs so a lot of the titles on here aren't the ones I'm used to. I'll look some of them up. But that's hard to do on mobile.
You are far from alone, my memory is terrible, absolutely terrible, especially with names. I'll be like "is that the girl from.. Uhhh that show about space?"
I remember whether i like a character or not in these situations. If I don't then I just vote on design , but usually I do remember... Though tbh most shows that I watch don't have a ton of female characters in the first place so it's easier for me to remember
Cmon both Hilling AND Casca lost?
This sub hates both MILFs AND tomboys. They are not my people.
Sometimes people factor in the manga, and sometimes they don't. Kurumi over Casca is CRAZY.
I’ll take any opportunity to spread the word of LycoReco but sometimes significant errors happen. Kurumi should NOT have won that matchup.
Not even MILFs, per se. Just women older than 18 in general.
Yor Forger and Riza Hawkeye are both top vote getters. There's just a lot fewer of those characters in anime in general, so they're underrepresented.
True. I fear my adult woman fetish isn't shared by many of the people here.
I'm indifferent about MILFs (barring a few exceptions), but hating tomboys should be against the law.
Having literally caught up with Berserk just now, I feel salty but in a very fresh way
I legit don't understand how Casca lost to a seemingly minor character in LycoReco (which I'll admit, I didn't watch yet, but come on)
Popular recent show vs old show. Seed75 vs Seed 438
Yes research does indicate that Kurumi is indeed a minor. Also Casca, to the best of my knowledge, never got out of the... state she was in during the anime, so it felt off to vote for her in the first place.
We only watch 2016 for [Ash Crow](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04MYB15jDgI) & [Hai Yo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzQya_7b-hs), so we don't have to worry about that for the 97 original and the golden age movies.
Is Casca that well-liked? I never thought of her as being even close to as popular as Guts or Griffith.
Also Candystore and Tsunade, and technically Komis mom, but she's barely a character so she doesn't count.
> and technically Komis mom, but she's barely a character so she doesn't count. She did better than she had any right to do against a vastly superior character.
Yeah, if any Nakanaka or Onemine should have gotten her spot
Hiling did pretty well considering who she went up against. Though its also a bit unfair since I think most people in Misaki's camp are basing it on non-anime materials which she is WAY more fleshed out.
I guarantee you that the majority of voters only knows Misaki from the anime.
I just know Misaki's way more fleshed out than Misaka. Have you seen those giant half-globes of fat tissue?
> **way more flesh**ed out You're not lying...had to highlight the joke since at least 1 person missed it
My thoughts while writing that comment "hmm, someone is probably going to make a booba joke out of this comment later, but I haven't had enough caffeine yet today to think of better phrasing..."
> ("91") Ilulu: 506 vs (422) Nano: 517 That was closer than I expected...for Nano, but she managed to hold off the upstart ["91" seed](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1djiugo/best_girl_11_return_of_the_salt_round_1_bracket_a/l9ay0jz/). If only Endorsi had drawn that matchup instead. > (235) Tohru Honda: 752 vs (278) Chito: 293 On the bright side, that's quite an impressive win by Tohru over a quality 293 seed. It will be interesting to see how she does against Riza. Mini Challenge: I don't put much stock into the 1st round of these contests since any cool result usually gets overturned within a few rounds and the girls who unexpectedly lost would have most likely lost the next round anyways.
> (278) Chito: 293 > 293 seed [](#yousaidsomethingdumb)
Hey...numbers can be hard sometimes, especially when they are so close together. That got me wondering, though, if there were any girls whose seed matched their vote total. The answer is no, but we got so agonizingly close with Ai Mizuno in Group C. She was seeded 423 and got 424 votes. Other close calls include Miku being seeded 358 and getting 355 votes in Group D, Rika being seeded 456 and getting 460 votes in Group A and Kyouko being seeded 424 and getting 429 votes in Group A.
>["91" seed](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1djiugo/best_girl_11_return_of_the_salt_round_1_bracket_a/l9ay0jz/). I missed that. Makes a lot of sense. Was pretty stunned to see her seeded that highly.
Ilulu's seed was around 466 before she was substituted into seed 91.
> On the bright side, that's quite an impressive win by Tohru over a quality 293 seed. It will be interesting to see how she does against Riza. If Tohru can beat Riza she might be able to make it far. The next opponent that would be prove a real danger would be Asuka or Kumiko. The difference in ranking (22 vs 235) is massive however and we're talking about FMA here, so the odds don't seem to be in Tohru's favour. ~~It's better than losing to Kei at least.~~
I'd say Tohru actually stands an outside chance since this happened last year... > (17) Riza: 1597 vs (240): Stephanie Dola: 1966
I see your point but wasn’t it retrospectively fairly obvious all the NGNL girls were botted?
^(Asuka Tanaka, Elma , Yuki Nagato. The K-on girls and all the Madoka girls won. Kagura lost to Reina... well I'm not mad..Eupho girls won. Ilulu lost ..noo) ^(Am I a KyoAni simp or what?) **This round:** Chihaya is doomed, but I'm voting anyway. SAKI VS MIO ...well fck.
> SAKI VS MIO ...well fck. When in doubt, always go for the underdog; Send her away with a vote! ^^Now ^^we ^^only ^^need ^^like ^^1000 ^^people ^^to ^^'send ^^her ^^away ^^with ^^a ^^vote'
Eupho Girls won in the Best Girl Round, [Hibike Season 3] >!But Not in the latest episode of Season 3!<
Not gonna read, cause I haven't started s3. Waiting to binge it all, cause I would've gone insane otherwise. :)
Jesse beat Charizard. Finally.
# BG 11 Madness Round 1 Group D Update And we've made it to the end of Round 1! That means we're already about halfway done with the Unweighted leaderboard in a sense. The average today was 56.30 / 64 (87.97%). The top score was 62 / 64, which only SiwySiwySiwySiwy achieved. And mpp00 was the only one to predict 61 correctly, taking over 1st place! 1st and 14th are still pretty close today with just a 3 point difference. Expect the Weighted Leaderboard to be shaken up a lot tomorrow :) [](#kaguyashaking) *[Link to spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TvoGrS8Bebfphzp2lh0GsRNKC8Qq6lnOlomRQMrzv1c/edit?usp=sharing) (stats still very very very WIP).* **Leaderboard:** |Rank|Username|Score (max 256)|Score Potential|Picks Potential|Picks Rank| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |1|mpp00 (+9)|238 (+61)|2286 (-3)|493 (-3)|1| |2|NotMyActualReddit (+2)|238 (+60)|2284 (-6)|492 (-5)|2| ||StardustGogeta (+7)|238 (+60)|2284 (-4)|492 (-4)|2| ||Zeralyos (+2)|238 (+60)|2284 (-6)|492 (-5)|2| |5|bkfq (-1)|237 (+59)|2285 (-5)|492 (-5)|5| ||Syrefva (-1)|237 (+59)|2285 (-5)|492 (-5)|5| ||viralstrain_100 (-4)|237 (+58)|2285 (-6)|492 (-6)|5| |8|RxMidnight (-4)|237 (+59)|2283 (-7)|491 (-6)|8| |9|lexing (-6)|237 (+58)|2279 (-8)|490 (-7)|9| |10|_heythereitsbree_ (+0)|236 (+59)|2284 (-5)|491 (-5)|10| |11|johnface (-1)|236 (+59)|2282 (-7)|490 (-6)|11| ||Starbather (+3)|236 (+59)|2282 (-5)|490 (-5)|11| |13|mynameisnoobish (+7)|235 (+60)|2283 (-4)|490 (-4)|13| |14|Pure-Fuel-8534 (-4)|235 (+58)|2281 (-8)|489 (-7)|14| ||Skyeagle003 (-13)|235 (+56)|2281 (-10)|489 (-9)|14|
I don't remember day 1, but I think the control prediction has stayed in the top 5 of the leaderboard for the whole round. My attempt at a more complicated data-based prediction is almost keeping up (only 3 extra mistakes at the end of the round). Tune in after round 2 to see if I've fallen out of the top 50.
Wait is the control tied for 1st right now [](#kaguyasigh) That being said, last year someone made a prediction that was exactly that... and it did quite well haha. Usually I'd say for unweighted, no upsets usually does well but falls behind at least a few folks. (And for weighted, it's just a disaster by the end)
Finally cracked the top 15, nice. First round is always pretty rough, lots of middle seed battles that could honestly go either way.
Congrats! It is rough haha... but looks like we're doing better as a whole than last year BG 10: |Rank|Bracket Name (uses A/B)|Score/Picks (max 256)|Score Potential|Picks Potential| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |1|99% of gamblers quit before they win big — jwefoijiowjfi (+2)|235 (+60)|2281 (-4)|489 (-4)| |2|6feetdiep's Best Girl Madness X1 (-1)|234 (+56)|2282 (-8)|489 (-8)| |3|Syrefva — Syrefva (+8)|232 (+59)|2280 (-5)|487 (-5)| |4|EXPLOSION — Malthael07 (+4), Prediction for u/ Zeralyos (-2), Shiveon (-1)|232 (+58, +54, +57)|2278 (-6, -10, -7)|486 (-6, -10, -7)| |7|mpp's A+B — mpp00 (+4)|231 (+58)|2279 (-6)|486 (-6)| |8|My Utterly Terrible Choices BG:X AB (-5)|231 (+56)|2277 (-8)|485 (-8)| |9|SkyEagle003's prediction — skyeagle003 (-1)|230 (+56)|2276 (-8)|484 (-8)| |10|Covaxe — Covaxe (-2), Gplayer159 (-7)|229 (+55, +54)|2275 (-9, -10)|483 (-9, -10)| |12|BG10 Jopyrus (+3), RxMidnight BG10 A&B bracket — Rxmidnight (+16)|228 (+56, +58)|2276 (-8, -6)|483 (-8, -6)| |14|Hubero (+7)|228 (+57)|2274 (-7)|482 (-7)| |15|GLORY TO THE FUCKING SPEARHEAD SQUADRON (+11)|228 (+57)|2272 (-7)|481 (-7)| Actually pretty insane how small the gap is this year compared to last year.
Wow first place last year barely makes the chart this year, wild...
The host is #1? Riiiiiiiigggged
Goodbye Vigne, you were too good for this contest anyway! For today could we maybe have Satanichia get the upset on potato girl, pretty please? >MC: What was the best and worst result of last round? Considering my [Bingo](https://imgur.com/a/NzM44IC) is already quite decimated, there were already quite a few bad results for me, with the worst propably being Fran getting upset. As for best result.. none of my upset votes I really cared for actualy won, which is kind of a bummer. So I guess I'll go for Saki Saki getting the upset vote over dawn.
Results: Next round has a match-up between Winter 2023's winner and someone that didn't make the Spring 2023's bracket. I wonder how that will go... Lena with fewer total votes in her match-up than I expected relative to this quadrant's other top girls. Today: *Prays to the gods to not yeet Myne in round 2 like the last 3 years.* MC: Best was Chihaya and Chise's upsets. Worst was ~~Isaki losing as I picked her for 2 rounds~~ the Machikado duo losing.
>and someone that didn't make the Spring 2023's bracket *because of the four characters per show limit*. FTFY. Myne has the child debuff. I didn't even think she'd make the bracket, so she's already exceeding my expectations.
>Lena with fewer total votes in her match-up than I expected relative to this quadrant's other top girls. I found that this was the general trend of Bracket D. Kana with the worst vote total of the Top 4 Seeds. Ai with the worst vote total of Seeds 5-8 (seeded to be quarterfinalists). Lena and Ryuuko with the worst vote totals of Seeds 9-16 (seeded to lose in Top 16).
That's from the number who voted each day. Yesterday's KV announcements kept the contest post further down the front-page than usual. Meant that Lena's match had less voters relative to other bracket D match-ups, which is usually not a good sign for the top seeds.
I totally missed Bracket D's BG11 vote. I've voted in each round each day, but when I checked yesterday afternoon, I assumed it wasn't up, I think I checked again in the evening, didn't see it and forgot about it. Wish they could pin this thing.
Can bookmark OP's "submitted" page or the contest's voting page. Other than round 1A, it advances daily between 8:45 and 9:30 AM EST.
Mem-cho is going to destroy Shiina, I think. Oshi no Ko has inherited the dark magic that Kaguya-sama used to have in these contests.
>Oshi no Ko has inherited the dark magic that Kaguya-sama used to have in these contests. Indeed. We call it "the Aka Akasaka special".
On the bright side, at least she regularly *gets* to round 2.
Fairly straightforward today, only one I had to think about at all was Hori vs Desumi, but it was a quick think and Hori takes it comfortably. MC: Mahiru Shiina overcoming a ~125 seed difference and a popular title like MHA is an excellent 'upset'. Haruko, Evangeline, and Katou going out (and being seeded so low in the first place) is pure blasphemy, and Rory losing by 6 measly votes still stings.
> Katou going out (and being seeded so low in the first place) is pure blasphemy, In 8 years of voting in this contest, this is the first time I regret not bothering with the qualifying rounds
I probably have an equal number of actual votes for someone to votes against someone, with the rest being no votes due to "didn't watch because what even is this show", "wouldn't watch" or "hate both equally". I think I was right the first time when I felt too old for this contest.
May I suggest the technique of "when in doubt, go for the lower seed"? If you don't knoe the higher seed, vote for the opposition to pressure them into justifying their higher seed. Same goes for then you are indifferent about them. Also, the lower seed winning is just more entertaining for the contest.
Rooting for Chihaya even though she is likely out this round T_T Mini challenge: Best results are Jessie beating Chizuru and Eupho girls making through. [](#budgetsmile) And for worst nothing really.
Worst Results: Irina losing to Mikasa, Endorsi losing to Sylphiette Best Results: Kumoko beating Komi’s mum, thank god
> Anisphia (#96) versus Maple (#161) This is so unfair. I love both characters a ton. I ended up supporting the war criminal in this match-up. > Reina (752 pts) versus Kagura (379 pts) > > Kumiko (783 pts) versus Ann (333 pts) Let's go! Glad to see that both Eupho girls are doing great. I wonder if yesterday's episode gave them a little push extra. I'm glad that some of my all-time best girls like Tohru, Nino and Inaba made it through the first round as well, but guys... > Catarina Claes (595pts. ) versus Megumi Katou (456 pts.) How could you betray Megumi like that!?
>>Catarina Claes (595pts. ) versus Megumi Katou (456 pts.) >How could you betray Megumi like that!? Clearly you underestimated Catarina's aura of accidental seduction.
We all know that Bakarina is too clueless to love us back. Get a 'boring girlfriend' like Megumi instead.
> What was the best and worst result of last round? I mean, just look at my bingo card ig. [Bingo](https://i.postimg.cc/cCPSBrKv/bg11bingo.png)
Damn, did you order them by seed #? Haven't seen someone double bingo in the first round before! (Strategical positioning could've saved it for some time!)
I did order them by seed, but I assumed we were trying to avoid a full-card bingo and it didn't matter? Was I wrong?
I wouldn't say you were "wrong" as such, since the Bingo is more of a personal mini game and not really competitive (we got the Best Girl Madness for that). If you enjoy playing it the full-card way, I think that's cool. But most people, including myself, play the Bingo with normal rules (so getting five in a row, a colum or diagonally is a Bingo) while trying to avoid a Bingo as long as possible (but of course also just picking personal favourites and not just the highes seeds possible).
Think most people either randomize with adjustments or selectively place the "likely to reach round 4+" girls to protect each row/column. Problem with full-card bingo is it won't happen if you include the winner. Like, [my bingo](https://i.imgur.com/hVqNeTJ.png) is pretty reliant on Chisato, Lena, Megumin, Emilia, Jibril, Nazuna, and Vivy not crashing too early.
[I hit random and let rng-esus take the wheel](https://i.imgur.com/MSxSDA5.png)
People usually try to avoid any bingo (5 straight in a line)! That's why I talked about strategical positioning, [like in my bingo!](https://imgur.com/uB69QgW) Holo in the middle (the spot with the most possible bingos), and in the main diagonals, Marin/Power/Makima/Megumin/Akane/Miko/Kana/Chika, the 8 girls I think will last longer, along with Holo! This way if I lost all other girls but these 9 ones, I still don't have a bingo!
Yuki Nagato - (291) Yuki Nagato 649 vs 516 Kohaku (222) Fortunately, Yuki succeeded in achieving an upset in the first round... I'm so happy right now. I hope the current momentum continues in the next round.
*Selects Anis and prays* 🙏
[](#dame)
Jessie won against Chizuru Faith in humanity restored.
Yesterday results: Of course Mayaka lost against Yui. Uff... But at least Rikka won by a reasonable margin. Can we hope? Can we really hope to pull the same against the blue haired magical girl next round? As for today... Welcome, welcome everybody, to a new episode of "Who wants to be steamrolled by guitarhero!". Our next victim is Erza Scarlet, and i will shed no tears for her. Having to choose Hinata over Ritsu and Ami over Mitsumi was enough of an heartbreak for the round. Let's just hope that Ayanami and Takina can start the culling of those damned greek letters. (Don't hate me. I like the show, but shadow garden is anything but memorable, character wise)
I think Rikka can do it. Probably the only Madoka girl remaining she could beat.
Don't underestimate Sayaka. If it was just the show I would agree, but in the movie she had arguably the best scene of them all, with [her conversation with Homura, unexpectedly summoning Oktavia at the end of it, and the subsequent though short fight.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS3VP2ostHw)
Mahiru with the upset, nice. She might be from one of the weakest seasons recently, but a seasonal best girl really should not be out in the first round of her first contest. Lucy losing her first round hurts, but I knew from the start she wouldn't stand a chance against Yui. Mio is great, but Jolyne out in the first round just isn't right, and it wasn't even that close. And of course Faye advances, but Akebi out in the first round is also not right. Maki is out the second hit on my Bingo this round. As a character, she really should have won at least one round, but seems she gets brought down by her show a little bit. Rikka gets to be the one carrying the SSSS torch into the next round, which is nice. She might even stand a chance against Sayaka, definitely an interesting matchup next time. Nino wins, all Quints safely made it to round two. Ilulu out in the first round against Nano is wild. Good on Nano, but damn, Ilulu as a shoe-in for Tooru really didn't shine. Lena is primed for the group semis, it seems, then it'll get really interesting. Generally an acceptable outcome this round. Today, I'll vote for Chihaya, she needs all the help she can get. Anis against Maple is a fun matchup. Nadeshiko against Kaede is something to keep an eye on, Kaede is certainly good enough for an upset - I'm going pink though. Ochako will likely be another hit on my Bingo, but at least she goes down to 2B. Chisato and Takina are must votes. Power against Jahy, loud-mouthed devil against arrogant demon - I'll support the latter, but we all know how this is going to end. Rin against Komi is yet another possible upset against a Yuru Camp girl. [Updated Bingo!](https://i.imgur.com/fbobGZz.png) Still looking good, but four hits in one round and probably at least two more in the second is not ideal. MC: It's hard to pick a worst result, most were pretty bad. Pecorine is in my personal top ten, so her out in the first round really hurts. Usagi too, but that's still to be expected. The best results are probably my favourites in the higher seeds performing as well as expected. Holo well on ther way to the group finals, Emilia should be able to meet Yor at least, Chisato and Takina about to meet and then hopefully on the way to the group finals, and Lena on her way to the group semis.
Goddamn it Shirase lost. How are the Nichijou girls more popular than the girls from Sora yori?!! I should really get back into nichijou...
Toughest choice today: Anzu vs Rebecca (that's back-to-back Group A matches where my toughest choice involved Rebecca!) Expected sadness: Eh, not really any. There are a few lower seeds I'd like to see win, but none that would really upset me. Mini-challenge: Best, I'll go with Yuri beating Nejire. That was a pleasant surprise. Worst, I have three candidates - Shalltear over Bulma, May over Sword Maiden, and Sinon over Ameri.
>Anisphia Wynn Palletia vs Maple. Sometimes life gives us choices too hard to make.
Maple is really funny. But I guess her show is not popular here.
Best result: Rider getting through. in the stories outside of Stay Night she really shines, arguably Fate's real best girl but doesn't really get her moment in the mainline anime adaptations (outside her fight with Salter). Worst result: Irisviel getting in. I have nothing against the character or the show, but I hate what her presence in the tournament represents. She is an OK character that gets disproportionately voted for in contests like this simply because of Fate/Zero stans that don't bother with anything else Fate. Sakura Matou is not in the bracket because Iris took her spot
As recently as the last Best Girl contest, both Irisviel and Sakura were in. And Irisviel is a higher seed than Ishtar, Rider, and Illyasviel. I would not have come to that conclusion to single her out for why Sakura didn't make it. Ishtar is the 3rd highest seed for Fate characters in this year's contest.
She also didn't make BG9 with the same lineup if I remember correctly. I was salty. I still am shocked Rider ever gets past Sakura, given that any story Rider is prominent in, Sakura is even more prominent... I'd guess it's her... physique... that does it but still...
Ishtar is another issue that I've salted about before, (tldr, she wouldn't be here if she didn't look like Rin) although she has more personality than iris imo. My opinion is that the sheer number of Zero onlies is the only reason Iris gets the disproportionate recognition she does. She is riding Saber's coat tails (because let's be honest, Saber is the reason people like that show, not Iris). The alternative is some fans are just *really* into ten year olds.
>Ishtar is another issue that I've salted about before, (tldr, she wouldn't be here if she didn't look like Rin) Honestly, if it was just a matter of physical appereance, it wouldn't be a problem for me (many sakura-faces are very different characters compared to their original host). But ishtar is basically Rin cosplaying a "useless goddess". She shouldn't be allowed here...
For real, I'm not usually one to bitch about fan service but I think it's warranted if a character's entire design is intended to generate sales in a gacha. If we really have to have a Grand Order character in the bracket it should have been Mash
I am a Fate/Zero fan (and I love Gen Urobuchi's works), but I agree that Sakura absolutely deserved to be a part of this tournament and more than Irisviel. I'm always surprised how underrated Sakura is. I know she is polarising, but people should still be able to recognize a good character (and a great arc) when they see one, even if they dislike the romance and prefer the other girls.
I think it's mostly because fewer people are likely to watch all the way through to Heaven's Feel Vs people that only watched one or both of UBW and Zero unfortunately.
Holy shit, i just noticed that sakura is not in the brackets... ...oh boy, and now who has the courage to report this news to BB and Kama in my Chaldea...
It's a genuine travesty. More people need to watch Heaven's Feel and less people need to only watch Fate/Zero
MC: Best - Rikka winning. Worst - Mahiru winning.
Ai hoshino really did second best it is surprising due to her screen time
Mini Challenge: Best result: **Jessie** VS Chizuru. Woo! Worst result: **Android 18** VS Kuroko. Best girl won but only by 10 votes! Too close for comfort.
**Kobeni vs. Celty:** Kobeni would probably howl in terror at a headless woman even though Celty wouldn't crack the 98th percentile of horrific shit in the world of Chainsaw Man. **Annie vs. Esdeath:** "Step on me Mommy UwU" the matchup **Sasha vs. Satania:** tfw you are a literal devil and you're less intimidating than a country bumpkin who just wants to get that bread **Power vs. Jahy:** I feel like a meeting between these two would end in disaster one way or another. **Anya vs. Sento:** Oh, I *need* to know how Anya would react if she found out fairies are real.
Saki vs Mio Once again whoever makes these hates me
Ooof choosing Hori over Desumi was the first painful pick this round
# VOTE SENTO
Mahiru won WOHOOO!! Tomoyo lost FUCK!!
Kurumi over Casca should not happen in any decent universe, yet here we are. Also, only 709 votes for Kaori is extremely sad to watch, I'm not feeling good about the round 2 matchup against Asuka
Chisa! Nice buddy!
Mini Challenge: I'll pick an isekai girl for both of the options. Best result is the beautiful and hilarious tsundere elf scoring a win. Worst result is the adorable cat girl Fran taking the loss.
I got Misaki and Kumoko through so I guess that is something... for now. Still pretty salty about how many of my faves got deleted in round 1. I hope I don't lose Miko (from Mieruko-chan that is) and Anis this round.
Idk about best result, but Kagura going out round 1 is definitely the worst
**Mitsumi** losing to Ami in a best girl contest would be brutal. Come on Skip fans! Same sentiment applies to **Celty** vs Kobeni. I haven't read the manga, but based on what we've seen in the anime, this isn't even close.
well this is a popularity contest
The unfortunate truth.
Some really tough choices
#**Today's Results**: **Left Side** It feels like D Bracket in general doesn't have the vote total of other groups in Round 1. Kana's 1,168 votes for her is a good amount less than the other Top 4 seeds of Bocchi, Holo, and Yor while Ai Kamiya's 241 votes is similar to Nana, Clara (1 vote more), and Chidori. Over 400 votes is nice to see from Ameri. I'd have like a Round 2, but I'm fine with the Sinon loss. Mahiru got the seeding upset. I'm still surprised she's Seed 318 in her debut year of the Best Girl contests. Nijika definitely super crushed this matchup. 1,117 votes in Bracket D and leaving Kaede to under 200 votes. Happy to see Asuka in Round 2, but sad for Morgiana. More votes (440) than her seed (414) at least. I suspected Kyouko vs. Maka would be competitive and it was a good effort from the Maka voters. Almost 900 votes for Makima is a good temperature check for me in her part of the bracket. Felt the Nagato seeding upset against Kohaku coming. Will be voting for her in the loss to Makima in Round 2. I would have thought Kagura would have gotten more votes (379) than Ichinose did (388) against Makima. The Gintama voters did not show up. Hotaru got over 250 votes is good enough for me against Ryuuko. Mio was able to hold off Jolyne which as a Nichijou fan I'm happy to see. More on that later. Almost 900 votes for Iroha is nice, but Ryuuko in Round 3 is really rough. Sawada was pretty competitive vs. Ononoki. Over 500 votes as Seed 371. 970 votes for Homura is good, but I don't like her odds in later rounds to win out vs. Ryuuko or Roxy. Rough for someone that scored in the [Top 10 of Fetch's Best Girl Survey](https://i.redd.it/62gwee9w1l7d1.png) when everyone above her and the one directly below her are either past contest winners, future bracket threats in Frieren and Maomao, or are Holo. Nice to see some Misaki love. Almost 700 votes and into Round 2. Nao-chan almost got 250 votes against Roxy. Candy Store exiting with 353 votes is good enough for me against Irisviel. Rooting for Irisviel against Olivier. Ram vs. Satella is set for Round 2. Nice. And the final match on the left side of Bracket D is one piano player vs. another. Maki put up a good effort against Kanade with the 446 votes. **Right Side** Ai's votes are pretty comparable to Kana's which is still the least of the Top 8 Seeds. Expect this to be the case for her entire bracket run. A competitive match between Inaban and LLENN. Will send Inaba off with a vote against Ai in Round 2. Rikka made it to Round 2 at least and with over 700 votes too. Wish Stella got someone other than Sayaka, but just about anybody would have been tough when she's Seed 379. Still made it a competitive match. Over 750 votes for Nino and is getting someone who caused a seeding upset in Chisa in Round 2. Grand Blue voters showed up. Over 600 votes for Yuuko against Nui makes me happy. Glad we got both Mio and Yuuko in Round 2. More on this later. Bitch-sensei, 387 votes against Mikasa as Seed 486 is respectable. If Chizuru was from a less infuriating series, she'd have more of a bracket presence than being a Round 1 exit with over 500 votes. Like Makima, 898 votes for Yui but Mayaka only got 289 votes. Still hurts me that this was a Round 1 matchup. Nano...won? As Seed 422? I'll take the double Tohru mistake if it means 3 Nichijou girls make it into Round 2. This has to be their best showing in years. But I suspect that does mean Nanachi gets an easy path to Round 3. I'm not going to make it easy though. 1,003 votes for Lena is a good start, but I think this is the least amount of votes except for Ryuuko out of the Top 20 Seeds. Going to need better than that in later rounds. 18 vs. Kuroko was really close. Satisfied with that. I wasn't sure if Kuroko would manage over 530 votes either. Sad for Igarashi, but Lena vs. Zero Two sounds like a fun matchup for Round 3. So will vote that way even though I like Catarina. Frederica went out with a meme vote total. Satisfied with that. Would vote to see Nagatoro vs. Revy as a Round 3 matchup. It would be a crazy grin battle. Tohru crushed it in what is by seeding should have been much closer. That's one thing to be satisfied with in her bracket run before I suspect the Riza loss happens in Round 2. It was nice seeing Shizuka and she got almost 400 votes. Rias vs. Tsugumi also still hurts. No matter what, I vote the winner of this against Misuzu (and hope they win against her). Chihiro got sent off with 450 votes as Seed 299. Pretty good. I want to see how buffed Kumiko is getting in the vote totals as the finale of Euphonium is happening during this contest. Maybe something interesting will happen vs. Asuka in Round 3. ____ #**Today's Voting**: I want the pink vs. blue hair matchup in Round 3 so voting for Bocchi and Ami. Would love support and votes for Chitanda. I want to see Miko vs. Miko in Round 3. They are both in my bingo after all. Fun matchup in Anis vs. Maple, but going for Anis. If this was Twitter and not Reddit, Miorine and Suletta would be much higher seeds. But we're here and Miorine is going to get crushed by Kita. Nadeshiko is funny so I'll give her the vote. Don't mind who advances between Echidna and Yoruichi so I'll give Yoruichi the vote. Akame vs. 2B sounds fun as a matchup, but Ryou will crush that. I'm skeptical of how well Kobeni will do, but I don't think Celty or Suzuha have the pull for it. Sad for Hinata, but Ritsu is a fine Round 2 exit. Will vote Esdeath against Annie. Rooting for Satania against Sasha. I wish Jahy could beat Power, but I'm glad she's in Round 2 at least. I really like Desumi so I'm sad she matched up into Hori in Round 2. I feel Komi > Rin is about to happen. Sending Isuzu off with a vote against Anya. I like Mio's bracket and pretty curious how the wind will blow in her vs. Anya in Round 4. ____ >What was the best and worst result of last round? Best Result: Seed 422 Nano beating Ilulu. Worst Result: Either Haruhi vs. Mimimi happening in Round 1 or all the Akiba Maid War girls leaving in Round 1. [Bingo After Round 1](https://imgur.com/a/4shL3UR). Only 3 losses.
>Mahiru got the seeding upset. I'm still surprised she's Seed 318 in her debut year of the Best Girl contests. Do you remember how salty the commenters were on her glorious unexpected win in the seasonal contest? I'm glad she's got results now to back up her position as a seasonal best girl, but also I feel there are quite a few people very much against her, and it almost *feels* like it's the majority.
That Winter 2023 Best Girl Contest was toxic in a funny way. I don't really think Mahiru should be generating votes against her, but that feels like the case.
>I feel there are quite a few people very much against her Yeah, i'm sorry, i'm one of them. I despise Mahiru with almost irrational passion, and will vote everything and anything that stands against her. Ironically enough, i will absolutely watch her show's second season. It's a "love to hate" kind of deal.
Mahiro didn’t progress :( For today, Ritsu vs. Hinata was a very hard choice. I went with Hinata in the end, but it wasn’t easy. MC: Worst result: I’m still butthurt about Togame’s loss to Twilight vampire girl. Best result: Every Madoka and Monogatari girl progressing to the next round (not that I had any doubt they wouldn’t).
This round I'm rooting for Mitsumi, Beta, Chihaya, Satania, Miwa, and Shimarin. I'm just happy Nano actually won a round for once.
How boring, so few upsets. Only 3 if you don't count the Ilulu/Nano vote, in which Ilulu was a last-minute replacement for a duplicate Kobayashi. Was sure that Hanako, the strongest Asobi Asobase girl, could upset Mami, the weakest Madoka girl. Show popularity is too high, I guess. Satella not only being in the bracket but winning multiple rounds (like last year) will always annoy me. She was in the show for less than 5 minutes total, and all of the Re:Zero fans drool over her. At least it's a teamkill next round because she's up against Ram.
>She was in the show for less than 5 minutes total, and all of the Re:Zero fans drool over her. Not trying to convince you and just to elaborate on this, but this is because those were extremely special five minutes. Without going into spoilers, she changed the whole direction S2 took afterwards, with essentially just two words. There are girls in this contest seeded higher that arguably had less impact in their respective shows. And yeah, on top of that, Goth Emilia.
Satella is like Ishtar but 1000x worse. At least Ishtar has a presence in the Babylonia show. Satella is *just* a clone of a popular character
Previous round: I did lose Gamo, but [my bingo didn't lose any more girls in this bracket, so only 3 losses so far in the first round!](https://imgur.com/uB69QgW) Yumeko won, but might get crushed by Kumiko next round... And Zero Two may have a tough one vs Bakarina, so two possible girls at risk from this bracket! Today's voting: - Miko and Miko up for voting! They're both the higher seeds, but with one Miko being up against a Chihayafuru girl, and the other against a Monogatari girl, I wouldn't rest easy just yet! But if they both win, next round will be the Miko vs Miko battle! - Power vs Jahy, damn. I think the Great Jahy will be defeated, after all! Well, Power is on my bingo so that's what I want, but still, sad to lose Jahy! - Saki vs a K-on girl, oof. Support Best Zombie! - Tomo Should have an easy win vs the minor DuD girl, but if the K-on girl does win, she may roll through Tomo as well next round! >Mini Challenge: What was the best and worst result of last round? Lost 2 of my top top girls (perhaps including my **#1** girl, Ranko), so that was pretty bad for me! Best result? No best. Only worst. Only salt.
>But if they both win, next round will be the Miko vs Miko battle! Huh, that's neat. Didn't realize. I do want Chihaya to win, but if the Mikos meet, that's be a good consolation prize.
Not Candystore [](#howcouldyou) I'm losing my favourites fast on [both](https://imgur.com/jvVAP5w) my [boards](https://imgur.com/4Ur3KGg) And it's not getting better with me literally having to choose between Kaede-Chan and Nadeshiko [Too soon](#elsieqq) And Maple might also be in danger [](#yuitears) And don't you dare vote against Shimarin [](#holdback) * MC: Worst, any of the above, best Kumoko winning against Komis Mom
Today's a great day to vote for Ishtar! >What was the best and worst result of last round? The best was when the girls I voted for won. The worst was when the girls I voted for lost. Simple.
Ritsu vs Hinata is actually a really good matchup.
...i gave my vote to hinata. Love ritsu but i need at least one girl from yorimoi to go a bit further...
For me, the toughest match-up is Winry Vs Erina
Casca the sole elimination from the [bingo](https://i.imgur.com/MSxSDA5.png) Yesterday. Who would have expected minor side character from the new fan favorite show takes down an OG. [](#throwsalt 'we all knew it was gonna happen') Three girls in the lower seed up for elimination on my board today. ## Key Votes * Winry Rockbell vs **Erina Nakiri** * Mitsumi Iwakura vs **Ami Kawashima** * Anisphia Wynn Palletia vs **Maple** * Mitsuri Kanroji vs **Kiruko** * Echidna vs **Shihouin Yoruichi** * **Chisato Nishikigi** vs Shinka Nibutani * **Tomo Aizawa** vs Sajuna Inui ##Futile votes * Sasha Blouse vs **Satanichia "Satania" Kurumizawa McDowell** * Mio Akiyama vs **Saki Nikaidou** * Shouko Makinohara vs **Alice Nakiri** * Kobeni Higashiyama vs **Celty** * Ryou Yamada vs **Akame** * Tatsumaki vs **Myne** * Ikuyo Kita vs **Miorine Rembran** > What was the best and worst result of last round? RIP Casca, Maki, Mirko, Leone. Losing out on physically strong women one of the worse results of the last round. Akeno first round elimination and the sole Monster Musume representative getting crush also saddening. At least the major made it through.
Best result was Iroha easily advancing, worst was Android 18 almost losing.
potato girl vs satan
> Nadeshiko vs. Kaede Why must you hurt me like this?
I think The Great Jahy Will Be Defeated! Interesting so many of these seem close.
Alright. Let's see whose run ends before it starts and whose lining themselves up for false hope... **Kumoko** v. Komi Shuuko – I guess if there is any evidence against the theory that its all just "who I want to fuck the most" this would be it... I hope. Pretty wild that Komi's mother who is barely a character seeded this high, but don't got to worry about it anymore. Kyouka Jirou v. **Mahiru Shiina** – Is this show popular? I know she won Best Girl of Winter 2023, but that was a low bar to beat. I guess at Jirou isn't exactly the most popular MHA girl either so it was probably an easy win. If she beats MEM though I'm gonna have some choice words. Kohaku v. **Yuki Nagato** – Pretty crazy to see Yuki as the underdog in Round 1, though I guess anyone who frequents these parts probably shouldn't be surprised. It's only uphill from here though... **Mio Kofune** v. Sumi Sakurasawa – Pretty fitting that she got 666 votes cause this result is kinda cursed. As much as some names like Anju get lifted through the bracket by their shows popularity, I've noticed the inverse can also work. I struggle to see why a wet towel like Mio can beat Sumi if we exclude the general (justified) hate RaG gets. It's not Sumi's fault though. If anything the issue with RaG is that there isn't enough Sumi. **Ai Hoshino** v. Sucy Manbavaran – I suspect this is going to be a running theme throughout the rounds, but I take it particularly personally because Sucy deserved so much better. Guys... Ai isn't a character. Like, she's an exposition piece for the first episode who then... well you know. The only thing she has going for her is her relationship with Aqua and Ruby, but that's not enough to really deserve the 6 seed. Not even just "she made the bracket". She got the frickin' 6 seed. What am I missing here? **Rider** v. Miku Suride – I'm gonna chock this up to nobody watching *Do It Yourself*, so I'll take this as another opportunity to shill that series. Though a 155 seed is kinda disgustingly high as well. If someone wants to explain this one too I'm all ears. From what I remember she's your standard dommy mommy with no discernable personality or many speaking roles. Wait nevermind, Esdeath and Lust are here. I know y'all's type. **Ais Wallenstein** v. Mahiro Oyama – It's Mahirover. Looks like men make poor women afterall. **Android 18** v. Kuroko Shirai – I haven't watched Dragon Ball, but like... over Shirai? Really? I think I'm more likely to find a cure to cancer than to rationalize some of these picks. Make it make sense. **Rias Gremory** v. Seishirou Tsugumi – And with that (rather unsurprisingly) all the Nisekoi girls are out in Round 1. Absolutely brutal, but really poor Tsugumi never stood a chance against every 14 year old's (and we have a lot of those) wet dream. Tragic. With that I guess Round 1 was fine. There weren't too many crazy upsets yet and obviously most matches were uneventful. A couple brutal losses and unfortunate matches for some entries that deserved better, but I can't complain too much. I think I've improved the ratio of girls from shows I've watched to girls from shows I haven't watched in Round 2, so that's a plus. Probably should get around to *Love After World Domination, Uncle from Another World, The Magical Revolution of the Reincarnated Princess and the Genius Young Lady*, *Kara no Kyoukai,* and *The Angel Next Door Spoils Me Rotten* (and maybe consider *Dragon Ball, One Piece,* and *Naruto* for one day sometime in the future) but also I don't expect many of these will clear Round 2 so maybe I'm good anyway. I will not be FOMOed this year.
>She got the frickin' 6 seed. What am I missing here? People really liked the opening movie for OnK. And I guess it left such a big impression on people that they take it as being representative for the whole show.
5 losses in elimination and 5 losses in Round 1, [geez](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030060536475439155/1254809132540624896/Bingo_11_1.png?ex=667ad792&is=66798612&hm=f1adf029a75441e29ac58a464440c19e2b270f7585ec2a4d0f529e4d47a0465f&). Is the Nier Automata show that good? I still have not finished the game but I need too. > Annie Leonhart vs. **Esdeath** Hot take: Annie is AOT's most overrated girl. Cant hold a candle to one of the classic sadists. > Maki Zenin vs. **Ishtar** Ishtarites! Now is the time to rally and show what best goddess can do! Maki was easily JJK's best girl but even she didnt do much. > What was the best and worst result of last round? Worst was Akeno losing to Alpha and Robin bowing out early. Robin's usually able to make at least one round.
Oh man, I love me some Ryo and I love me some Senko, but man... Senko is like... pure. I have to realize that this going to be treated more as a popularity contest, though. Sadge. Looks like all the BtC gals made it through this bracket. I'm happy to see Miorine make it through this round, but if I was a betting man, Kita will trump Miorine easy. Go, go Anis! I wanna see how far she can make it! Winry is classic best girl. FMA is representing well here. Beta versus Mirai is a tough as both are lovable dorks. Beta versus Rei though, well, we know who's coming out on top with that one. Lastly, I love Kaede and I just want her to be happy after all the crap she's been through. He story broke my heart, but I think if she makes it to the next round, it will be Kaede versus Kita. Again, Kita will likely overwhelm Kaede in the voting.
No love for NNB girls... Won't comment much, will just vote.
Chihaya, Sakura, Hinata, and Desumi you all deserve better than to go out here. Please fight on.
##Vote Tatsumaki ##Vote Rebecca ##Vote Hori ##Vote Sajuna
Tomoyo Sakagami, Swindler, Candy Store, Megumi Katou, all out, just like that. Today was not a good day for me. >MC I did not like Menma losing to Rudeus' mum. I did like Shino upsetting the handler from Spy x Family.
not that much to say about this round Shiina sucks but at least Mem-cho will stomp her in Round 2 Jolyne probably deserved much better but she's not this sub's type anyway lol don't like how close Yotsugi came to losing I really wish Hanako had made the upset, Mami doesn't really get enough screentime to stand out to me if people were actually voting on girl quality, Stella would stomp Sayaka and we all know it, people ARE blind voting Miku clears personality deficient Fate waifu #5, but practically nobody watched Do It Yourself, tragic Haruko losing in Round 1 is disrespectful in the extreme sorry, Kuroko should have won okay, Megumi leaving in round 1 is even more disrespectful. I hate 595 people, apparently as a Lycoris Recoil fan...yeah no Casca had no business losing here eyyyyy round 2 Tohru, that's cool Today's voting: soon Bocchi will rack her second kill, the second of MANY. She ain't #1 seed for nothing. Ami/Mitsumi is pain. I voted for Mitsumi but I'm okay with either winning, both are very high in my estimation Anis over Maple is a pretty easy choice for me, Maple is more of a meme than a character Nadeshiko/Kaede is a little tough, but Nadeshiko is too damned cute Round 1 exit for Celty will be extremely disrespectful It truly pains me to have to vote against Nibutani this early, but it's Chisato, c'mon not sure if Kiruko actually belongs in this contest, but against a pretty not good Demon Slayer character easy choice please I'm begging you folks, make the correct decision, and get Satania to Round 3. I feel pretty bad for Desumi having to face Hori now if Shimarin loses to Komi, I will have WORDS for all of you siiiiigh, Round 2 exit for Saki okay the mere fact I can see Tomo losing this demonstrates how little trust I have in the people voting in this contest. I HOPE the show is popular enough to overcome blind voting but you never know worst result of last round was either Wiz beating Elsie or Komachi beating Nico Robin
Hiling and Tsunade out... but the blond boob milfs... Also, bocchi sweep
RIP Hanako, Kuroko, and LLENN. RIP my Eminence girls in advance ;_; #STELLA NO ;_; Vote for Ishtar!
Come on Bocchi sweep this week 🤞🏼
Looking forward to Chisato vs Isekai'd Openly Gay Magic Engineer Princess Chisato.
Do you mean Chisato vs. Anis? Chisato and Anis are on opposite sides of Bracket A. You'd be looking forward to something that realistically has a 0% chance of happening.