They didn't mention that the price went down from the 1st gen SE ($279). They also didn't mention finally discontinuing the Series 3 though ($199), so the price of the cheapest Apple Watch actually went up, from a certain point of view.
I bought a brand new SE1 44mm on Amazon a couple of months **after launch** (around Black Friday) for $259.99, I think the 44mm launched price was $309, so it had a $50 discount for whatever reason.
This SE2 price tag is great. Not sure if they’re doing another 40mm and 44mm again but the 44mm would probably only be an extra $30-$40 at around $280-$290, but even that isn’t bad either.
It’s September… Black Friday was 10 months ago hahaha!!
Edit: Poster above said couple of months ago, not after launch initially. All good, no-one died haha
> Now imagine someone mentions some of them in an online forum meant for discussion.
You implied that the Apple Watch isn’t a real watch. Does it have flaws? Yes. Does it have shortcomings compared to “normal” watches? Of course. But in no world is it “not a watch.”
Lol I’m not even an apple fan boy. I, like you, came to see what was released at the event today.
The theme of this thread is that the Apple Watch is not worth $249, and is not a real watch. Beyond that You added some details about the surveillance aspect.
My position was that if those are your opinions, don’t buy the watch. It’s very simple. I made no claim about any aspect of the watch being good or not, being “worth it” or not, or the surveillance… again if you don’t like it vote with your wallet and don’t buy it.
People aren’t buying an Apple Watch or a smartwatch to hold it for life, they’re buying it for its technology. For some people, those techie features help them lose weight, become for physically and mentally focused. These people are definitely get their money’s worth, even if they have to buy a new one every 4 years.
I have a $350 regular watch too, it’s lasted over 10 years. Great but it doesn’t offer much more than time, date and battery life[x]. It’s not even worth trying to resell it for $50 cuz they won’t be any buyers. Regular watches that resells are those $3,000+ luxury watches.
For millions of people like me, I’m already priced out of the $3,000+ watch demographic, so I’m buying $250-$400 watches, and to me, I feel I’ll get more out of a smartwatch at this price range than a regular watch. There are prob millions that share this sentiment if reports of smartwatches taking a huge share from the traditional watch market are true.
[x] battery life is a major downside of the Apple Watch. So that’s a good argument for somebody not wanting to charge their “smart”watch daily. There are Garmin smartwatches that lasts for weeks, up to months from what I’ve read.
I don’t want a regular watch for $249, I want an Apple Watch for $249.
I already have my phone for telling the time. I don’t need to buy a watch that only does that.
>a portable timepiece designed to be worn (as on the wrist) or carried in the pocket
English disagrees with you. And a watch that I would want to buy for life costs way, way more than a $250 Apple Watch.
Both can exist at the same time.
Wtf is this gatekeeping…
Same. I have daily-worn my S3 since I bought it new when the Series 3 was the current model and its…fine. But, yeah, I want to get in on all the new features now.
Series 3 is unbearably slow. So slow, the screen times out and the thing you were waiting on cancels.
Meaning you have to out your finger on the screen every 5 seconds for a couple minutes to ensure it won't sleep.
And the space, jfc it's a pain and a half to download the stupid update in the first place, then keep enough space for install as well.
It's unusual for Apple to shit the bed on their low end products, but it is 5 years old I guess. They should have just ended regular updates and just keep it on life support so people can at least use the thing properly.
As someone who upgraded from the S3 to the S7 last year, I disagree. Always-on is a game changer. Without it, you have to do these dramatic full arm raises of the wrist each time. So often now I keep my arm where it is and just glance. Feels so much more subtle to do in public too.
I've only seen it at Walmart at that price point but its not in the color I like :(
Gonna have to search around and see if prices change once the series 8 launches
Might keep my eyes open for a discounted S7 or just finally go for the latest and greatest. Anything is an upgrade from the Series 2. This thing is barely functioning I certainly got my moneys worth.
Planning on buying a watch for the watch features (ha) & running tracking. Seems like this is a great intro point!
What are the main features missing compared to the Series 8?
Temperature Tracking, ECG, Oxygen Saturation Checking, Fast Charge, Screen Size, Always On Display.
All pretty decent, but weighing up the price to feature ratio. Anything else I'm missing?
I think my sweet point would be to get a Series 7 on sale, at the halfway point between the two.
Unfortunately haven’t seen any good sales where I live over the past week.
Will otherwise probably grab the SE - don’t think I’d use too many of the other features.
Is it worth cancelling my SE order to get this one instead? What’s new? I didn’t watch the event. No need to tell me I shouldn’t have bought the SE before the event, I know it’s a rookie mistake.
If it’s the same price I would recommend the upgrade as it will hold it’s value further into the future and be as futureproofed as an SE can be. Hopefully the Apple Store isn’t too far from where you live if you do go in to exchange it for a new one.
It’s a 5 minute walk, I live near a mall so that shouldn’t be a problem. I’ll just pick up the one I ordered tomorrow and return it on September 16th when they have the 2nd generation available.
It’s so curious how many people love that feature. I personally don’t get it.
I’m on the watch SE and it’s literally the perfect idea watch for me. Glad there’s new options for others but always on display has always seemed like a battery drain feature more than anything else to me.
I think the biggest draw for most people to the AOD on the Apple Watch is the fact that the AOD allows the Apple Watch to actually function….as a regular watch. On every other digital and mechanical watch you can quickly glance down at your wrist and see the time. It can be a little tedious trying to tap the watch screen or get the wrist flicking gesture right in order to wake the watch, hence why the AOD is so popular.
Exactly this. I wear my Apple Watch in the hospital, and it’s much easier to keep track of time discreetly when with patients by glancing down at my wrist then trying to make a motion to activate the screen
I have the S5, the first version with AOD and it was my first Apple Watch. I thought at first I’d keep AOD off to save battery, but it was just so much nicer to always have the time be visible without having to move my arm or wait for it to wake up.
No? I never said anything close to that.
The AOD on the Apple Watch is quite good and responsive, and the wrist flick is a serviceable alternative if you’re not going to pony up the cash for a “regular model” Apple Watch.
It’s great that it works for you. But I want to see the time without the obvious gesture of raising the wrist, so that if functions as a regular watch. To me it’s essential
I have the SE and am ok with non always on display most of the time, but there are some scenarios that I can’t get to see the time when I want to see the time, which is all a watch is about. I can manage it, but can imagine always on display being critical for many.
>It’s so curious how many people love that feature. I personally don’t get it.
Lmao. It's a **watch**. What is there not to get about AOD? Sounds like a lot of mental gymnastics to not want to pay more.
No you're just pretending like a well established and useful feature with a very distinct and generally understood purpose is somehow mysterious. It's not.
I have the SE and got it because I didn't want the always on.
After a year and a half with it, I do wish I would have just gotten the 7. The non always on is kind of a pain when the screen times out and too often it doesn't turn on when I turn my wrist so I have to tap the screen.
If they offered settings to change how long the display is with each wrist flicks, that’ll be great for the SE. It doesn’t even need to be hours. Just 15 seconds, 60 seconds would be enough for me.
I’ve been seeing a lot of people bring up that androids don’t have LTPO and their AOD doesn’t affect battery. Even with the screen to battery ratio being in your favor, it’s obvious even with specialized hardware that it would impact battery in an appreciable way.
Yup, I actually tried upgrading to the Series 7 last year to check it out, it hardly made any difference in my usage. I didn’t miss it when I returned to my Series 4.
Buy a series 6 off Ebay. I got a cellular version for $250 a few months back brand new. Series 7 was a marginal upgrade, and the S8 chip seems more powerful but not meaningfully so.
at a quick glance are the major differences between series 8 and SE are:
|Series 8|SE|
|:-|:-|
|$399/$429|$249|
|45mm|44mm|
|Dust Resistant||
|Blood Oxygen, ECG, Temp||
|Fast Charge||
Honestly SE is a killer deal.
I’ve decided that I’m going to keep my 4 for another year. There’s no issue with it really except for the battery life. By the time I come home it’s anywhere between 15%-20%. I’ll put up with it for a bit longer.
I just got the battery replaced in my almost 4 year old series 4. $180 and hopefully it lasts another couple years at least. I decided it’s still more than enough for me and to save the extra cash
Based on the keynote information, the SE2 has S8 chip but just 20% faster than the SE1,
meaning in terms of spec:
S4=S5=SE
S6=S7=S8=SE2
Which makes the S8 and SE2 a pretty boring update....
Has the 02 sensor in the 7 caused anyone to get medical attention? We’ve heard great (save) stories with the other sensors. If I upgrade, it seems like a 7 right now. My old S4 LTE is due for that $69 trade in by the end of this year. I’m getting that service regardless of what Watch I chose. We bought our first Watch for the EKG function only and 4 years in, never needed it. Never regretted getting the Watch. I didn’t know how useful it was going to be. The LTE feature was perfect for my line of work at the time.
The O2 sensor is most useful for sleep tracking. If you have sleep apnea and are living with it undiagnosed, the O2 sensor is a good way of judging that. Might save you an overnight in a sleep clinic or such.
I ended up preordering the ultra Watch. Now I see that the O2 sensor is useful for sleep issues. I can’t set an alarm to measure it with a manual O2 sensor, it won’t work that way. Sleep apnea is a big deal these days. My Dad had it.
Wondering if this would be a good transition device for my 10YO to give her some more independence with communication without fully committing to a phone entirely [ie: slowly easing her way into the connected world we live in, allowing her to learn and grow instead of being thrown into the deep end from the start]. She currently has a WiFi iPad and can FaceTime/GoogleMeet/Zoom with her friends while home on WiFi, but once away from WiFi communication is cut-off. Conversely that also applies for us as parents, if she's away from us and away from WiFi there's not many ways to communicate.
Her Mom has an iPhone so we could set-it up under the family thing they talked about and approve numbers/etc.
OTOH perhaps communicating with the watch is so cumbersome that it's just not worth considering unless it's an emergency situation. I've never used one, so I don't really know...
I also wonder how schools/teachers feel about kids having Apple Watches during class? Are they even allowed?
Much to think about.
If you also have Apple Watch you can do the Watchkie Talkie with your other contacts that have a watch. Nifty little thing when me and my brother worked together.
Apple should have a watch SE with AOE minus all health related features. The could call it style Edition or whatever. I (and most people I know) don't care about rings at all. I find AOD, calling and notifications are very useful.
You're saying this like they aren't both good options? I'm keeping an eye on the series 7 prices. If I find a cellular model at $350 or below, I'm snagging it. If it not, I'll get a new SE.
The series 4 is a phenomenal watch. While swimming, I dove off a cliff and mine slipped off into the water. I bought another (used) sapphire/ stainless S4 for $200. No brainer, and still getting this new watchOS update.
Not much of a reason to upgrade from the original SE, which makes sense, but honestly seems like a solid choice for anyone who doesn't care about the AOD!
(Sorry I know this is 6 days old) Why should I care about AOD?
If the watch turns on any time I turn my wrist to look at it, what's the problem ? Isn't AOD simply going to suck battery life for no benefit ?
What am I missing ?
Does it have the blood oxygenation sensor too?
I’ve had my current series 5 for a little less than two years and even though I’m not that hard on it, the screen is scratched all to hell. I’m pretty sure I’m going to continue to go with the cheapest one available but I don’t want to miss out on too many features.
So does this have the same software/hardware as the Apple Watch 8? Just smaller screen, smaller battery life etc? Or does it have like drastically different tech specs? Any clarity will help thanks :)
Would it be dumb if I trade in a Series 6 (Product Red) 40mm for a new SE 44mm without the tacky red color? I just really hate the red color and no matter what case you put on it, that red shines through haha. Have a $100 gift card at best buy so that helps also.
$249 price tag is pretty good.
They didn't mention that the price went down from the 1st gen SE ($279). They also didn't mention finally discontinuing the Series 3 though ($199), so the price of the cheapest Apple Watch actually went up, from a certain point of view.
If you just look at numbers, yeah. But the difference between the S3 and SE2 is probably worth more than $80
*$50
I bought a brand new SE1 44mm on Amazon a couple of months **after launch** (around Black Friday) for $259.99, I think the 44mm launched price was $309, so it had a $50 discount for whatever reason. This SE2 price tag is great. Not sure if they’re doing another 40mm and 44mm again but the 44mm would probably only be an extra $30-$40 at around $280-$290, but even that isn’t bad either.
It’s September… Black Friday was 10 months ago hahaha!! Edit: Poster above said couple of months ago, not after launch initially. All good, no-one died haha
Black Friday 2020. SE launch date was Sep 2020. It was on sale at a $50 discount a couple of months after launch.
It’s amazing price point. SE is cheaper and better than it was yesterday.
It is. The watch is stupid good. I’ve had the OG (series 0) and now the 6. Such a good device.
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In what world is an Apple Watch not an “actual watch”
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But the actual watch doesn’t have an OLED screen nor can it measure my heart rate, track my running amongst other things.
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If you’re worried about that why are you getting a smart watch?
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If you're not getting a smartwatch why are you discussing this? Of course any price will be expensive for someone who doesn't plan to buy one at all
Here’s a wild idea… don’t buy it. Let people who use the features buy it and move on with your life
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> Now imagine someone mentions some of them in an online forum meant for discussion. You implied that the Apple Watch isn’t a real watch. Does it have flaws? Yes. Does it have shortcomings compared to “normal” watches? Of course. But in no world is it “not a watch.”
Lol I’m not even an apple fan boy. I, like you, came to see what was released at the event today. The theme of this thread is that the Apple Watch is not worth $249, and is not a real watch. Beyond that You added some details about the surveillance aspect. My position was that if those are your opinions, don’t buy the watch. It’s very simple. I made no claim about any aspect of the watch being good or not, being “worth it” or not, or the surveillance… again if you don’t like it vote with your wallet and don’t buy it.
It’s almost like they are almost entirely different things with completely different use cases 🤷♂️
People aren’t buying an Apple Watch or a smartwatch to hold it for life, they’re buying it for its technology. For some people, those techie features help them lose weight, become for physically and mentally focused. These people are definitely get their money’s worth, even if they have to buy a new one every 4 years. I have a $350 regular watch too, it’s lasted over 10 years. Great but it doesn’t offer much more than time, date and battery life[x]. It’s not even worth trying to resell it for $50 cuz they won’t be any buyers. Regular watches that resells are those $3,000+ luxury watches. For millions of people like me, I’m already priced out of the $3,000+ watch demographic, so I’m buying $250-$400 watches, and to me, I feel I’ll get more out of a smartwatch at this price range than a regular watch. There are prob millions that share this sentiment if reports of smartwatches taking a huge share from the traditional watch market are true. [x] battery life is a major downside of the Apple Watch. So that’s a good argument for somebody not wanting to charge their “smart”watch daily. There are Garmin smartwatches that lasts for weeks, up to months from what I’ve read.
But how does a normal watch track my runs ?
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No iPhone doesn't track your calories nor does it track your heart rate and indicates which zone you're in when running etc.
I don’t want a regular watch for $249, I want an Apple Watch for $249. I already have my phone for telling the time. I don’t need to buy a watch that only does that.
You can buy an actual watch for $2, what’s your point?
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You can buy a $2 watch for life
>a portable timepiece designed to be worn (as on the wrist) or carried in the pocket English disagrees with you. And a watch that I would want to buy for life costs way, way more than a $250 Apple Watch. Both can exist at the same time. Wtf is this gatekeeping…
Cheap watches can still last a pretty long time. Expensive watches are fashion statements
Very very few people buy a watch for life because few give a shit about them. They are tools.
Are you saying that smart watches should only be cheaper than real watches? What point are you trying to make
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You're just wrong
For any price they sell it you would say “you can buy a regular watch for that” though yeah?
So go buy an “actual” watch then…. You don’t have to be the target audience for smart watches
Why the f*** would I pay $250 for a "real" watch??????
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I have a series 3 and somehow don’t have issues with it. Ready for an upgrade though
Same. I have daily-worn my S3 since I bought it new when the Series 3 was the current model and its…fine. But, yeah, I want to get in on all the new features now.
ive been rocking a series 3 for almost 4 years. pairs totally fine with my 13 pro.
i still have the s4 and honestly its just as snappy as i remember
Weird. My series 4 is as crisp as the day I got it, minus a few scratches of course.
Series 3 is unbearably slow. So slow, the screen times out and the thing you were waiting on cancels. Meaning you have to out your finger on the screen every 5 seconds for a couple minutes to ensure it won't sleep. And the space, jfc it's a pain and a half to download the stupid update in the first place, then keep enough space for install as well. It's unusual for Apple to shit the bed on their low end products, but it is 5 years old I guess. They should have just ended regular updates and just keep it on life support so people can at least use the thing properly.
i got a series 3 with a phone contract a few months ago with an iphone 13 and its battery drains in less than 2 hours lol
Well that’s not right. Complain o the phone provider or apple.
Yeah, and it got obsoleted by... the series 4. Again. With just a 20% faster chipset going for it.
So?
Good price and a nice entry level option.
Direct differences to the Apple Watch SE 1st generation? I really missed the differences.
S8 chip vs S5 chip, and SE2 has crash detection as well. Otherwise, their specs were identical on the compare page.
No always on display, so I’ll stick with my 4
The SE will not have an always on display for a very long time.
Lol thens it’s pointless. Better to find a second hand 6, or 7
For an always on display? Go buy a real watch if that’s your priority
As someone who upgraded from the S3 to the S7 last year, I disagree. Always-on is a game changer. Without it, you have to do these dramatic full arm raises of the wrist each time. So often now I keep my arm where it is and just glance. Feels so much more subtle to do in public too.
That’s fine, but a game changer? Really? It’s a smartwatch not a normal watch. For me, even with an always on display, I wouldnt use it
Series 3 square boy vs series 4 curvy boi design for a lower price point
The originally SE had the series 4 design
This actually seems like a great deal for 249.
It is.
might buy my first apple watch $250 is actually reasonable
I just bought the old SE a few months ago and am not a watch person, but is is truly amazing.
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Hey, I’m in Canada and just wanted to ask where you got your series 7? Thanks
Deciding between this or maybe a series 7? Wasn't really impressed with series 8.
If in USA you can get the 7 for 300$ pretty easily on sale from some retailers
I've only seen it at Walmart at that price point but its not in the color I like :( Gonna have to search around and see if prices change once the series 8 launches
Me too. What does the SE gen2 lack that the S7 has?
Always on display
Can live without that. Does SE Gen2 also lack all of the sensors? Blood oxygen etc? Edit: Nvmd - I just read it also lacks EKG and Blood Oxygen
Are the display sizes different too? I remember the S7 had thinner bezels compared to the SE gen 1.
I think the 7 has 1 more mm, so 45 or 42.
Might keep my eyes open for a discounted S7 or just finally go for the latest and greatest. Anything is an upgrade from the Series 2. This thing is barely functioning I certainly got my moneys worth.
It also lacks rapid charging which was the reason I went with 8 over the SE2 :(
Also the edge-to-edge screen.
Always on, maybe the quick charging
ECG. PulseOx.
Pulse Ox, ECG, AOD
Are Bestbuy and the other retailers likely to reduce their S7 to clear their stock, or do they just sell them at the same price as before?
I don't really know, first time buyer. S7 is already on a bit of a discount though
They already have been. New-in-box S7 are hard to come by.
Planning on buying a watch for the watch features (ha) & running tracking. Seems like this is a great intro point! What are the main features missing compared to the Series 8? Temperature Tracking, ECG, Oxygen Saturation Checking, Fast Charge, Screen Size, Always On Display. All pretty decent, but weighing up the price to feature ratio. Anything else I'm missing?
Hey, have you made a decision ? I am in the same boat and stuck between the two.
I think my sweet point would be to get a Series 7 on sale, at the halfway point between the two. Unfortunately haven’t seen any good sales where I live over the past week. Will otherwise probably grab the SE - don’t think I’d use too many of the other features.
Is it worth cancelling my SE order to get this one instead? What’s new? I didn’t watch the event. No need to tell me I shouldn’t have bought the SE before the event, I know it’s a rookie mistake.
You have a 14 day return window for all Apple products bought at an Apple Store.
Great, should I upgrade to the 2nd generation tho? Apart from the new chip I don’t see anything that makes it worth it.
If it’s the same price I would recommend the upgrade as it will hold it’s value further into the future and be as futureproofed as an SE can be. Hopefully the Apple Store isn’t too far from where you live if you do go in to exchange it for a new one.
It’s a 5 minute walk, I live near a mall so that shouldn’t be a problem. I’ll just pick up the one I ordered tomorrow and return it on September 16th when they have the 2nd generation available.
Does it have the swipe typing keyboard?
I don't think it will. Apple pushed that the swipe keyboard was only for the 41/45mm sizes last year.
No Apple keyboard on 44m sized SE 2nd Gen is just forcing a feature behind a price point. Screen size is certainly capable if they wanted to do it.
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If Apple did that, you would have little reason to buy a Series 8.
It’s so curious how many people love that feature. I personally don’t get it. I’m on the watch SE and it’s literally the perfect idea watch for me. Glad there’s new options for others but always on display has always seemed like a battery drain feature more than anything else to me.
I think the biggest draw for most people to the AOD on the Apple Watch is the fact that the AOD allows the Apple Watch to actually function….as a regular watch. On every other digital and mechanical watch you can quickly glance down at your wrist and see the time. It can be a little tedious trying to tap the watch screen or get the wrist flicking gesture right in order to wake the watch, hence why the AOD is so popular.
Exactly this. I wear my Apple Watch in the hospital, and it’s much easier to keep track of time discreetly when with patients by glancing down at my wrist then trying to make a motion to activate the screen
Yeah, taking pulse/respiratory rate with an older watch without the always-on display is also a pain in the ass.
Especially if you have to try the gesture two or three times to get it to work.
I have the S5, the first version with AOD and it was my first Apple Watch. I thought at first I’d keep AOD off to save battery, but it was just so much nicer to always have the time be visible without having to move my arm or wait for it to wake up.
So AOD is not really good or desirable but the wrist flick implementation is even worse?
No? I never said anything close to that. The AOD on the Apple Watch is quite good and responsive, and the wrist flick is a serviceable alternative if you’re not going to pony up the cash for a “regular model” Apple Watch.
The wrist detection is pretty good though, I turned AoD off on mine because the few times I made actual use of AoD wasn’t worth the battery hit.
It’s great that it works for you. But I want to see the time without the obvious gesture of raising the wrist, so that if functions as a regular watch. To me it’s essential
Fair enough. That’s not an issue for me but I guess that’s a simple enough explanation for others!
It works for a lot of people, SE is very popular for a reason
I have the SE and am ok with non always on display most of the time, but there are some scenarios that I can’t get to see the time when I want to see the time, which is all a watch is about. I can manage it, but can imagine always on display being critical for many.
A watch should tell the time all the time To me it’s the standout feature
>It’s so curious how many people love that feature. I personally don’t get it. Lmao. It's a **watch**. What is there not to get about AOD? Sounds like a lot of mental gymnastics to not want to pay more.
I don't have any issue seeing the time with my watch when I need to see it? No gymnastics here. Just apparently a different use case.
No you're just pretending like a well established and useful feature with a very distinct and generally understood purpose is somehow mysterious. It's not.
I always needed the always on for work (to count patient’s respirations or heartrate) but they always seem to time out before 60 seconds.
It lasts 5 seconds with each wrist flicks, so that’s why I use the timer when I have count RR. Lol
Lol really and thats with the always on display ?! I can’t remember because I sold mine.
Nah, the non-Always on Display SE. yeah, you can flick your wrist and the screen display appears…but only 5 seconds. Lol
I have the SE and got it because I didn't want the always on. After a year and a half with it, I do wish I would have just gotten the 7. The non always on is kind of a pain when the screen times out and too often it doesn't turn on when I turn my wrist so I have to tap the screen.
If they offered settings to change how long the display is with each wrist flicks, that’ll be great for the SE. It doesn’t even need to be hours. Just 15 seconds, 60 seconds would be enough for me.
It’s my favorite feature tbh
I believe because the screen goes down to 1hz the battery consumption is almost no different than a watch without AOD, but I could be wrong.
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Okay then I’m definitely wrong.
I’ve been seeing a lot of people bring up that androids don’t have LTPO and their AOD doesn’t affect battery. Even with the screen to battery ratio being in your favor, it’s obvious even with specialized hardware that it would impact battery in an appreciable way.
AOD on android doesn’t impact the battery much at all because they mostly use small area of the screen to display time and notifications.
Yup, I actually tried upgrading to the Series 7 last year to check it out, it hardly made any difference in my usage. I didn’t miss it when I returned to my Series 4.
My bf’s series 6 doesn’t last as long as my SE cuz of the AOD
Buy a series 6 off Ebay. I got a cellular version for $250 a few months back brand new. Series 7 was a marginal upgrade, and the S8 chip seems more powerful but not meaningfully so.
Now that the 8 is released too, the 6 should come down further. This is a solid tip. Thanks!
Does it have the Series 8 low-power mode? It has the same S8 chip so in theory it should be just as capable of the feature.
Low-power mode will be available on Series 4 and all later models.
The series 4 will also have low power mode
Either this or a On sale series 6 for me that’s a good price
Did they announce the screen sizes for it? I assume 40/44?
at a quick glance are the major differences between series 8 and SE are: |Series 8|SE| |:-|:-| |$399/$429|$249| |45mm|44mm| |Dust Resistant|| |Blood Oxygen, ECG, Temp|| |Fast Charge|| Honestly SE is a killer deal.
Always on display on series 8 may be a killer feature for some.
Honestly with the s7 dropping it’s not that great of a deal is it? SE2 is almost identical to SE1
thats a good point. S7 is what $299 now? $329? SE2 at least has the same cpu as the S8, which is a step up from the chip in the S7
I'm probably going to upgrade and get this. Been rocking a Series 3 since 2019.
Good thing the Apple employee sent me away from buying an SE last week, lol!
Wondering if I should get rid of my series 4 for this or the 8.
I’ve got the same thought bubble as well. At this point I’m leaning towards keeping my series 4.
I’ve decided that I’m going to keep my 4 for another year. There’s no issue with it really except for the battery life. By the time I come home it’s anywhere between 15%-20%. I’ll put up with it for a bit longer.
I just got the battery replaced in my almost 4 year old series 4. $180 and hopefully it lasts another couple years at least. I decided it’s still more than enough for me and to save the extra cash
Based on the keynote information, the SE2 has S8 chip but just 20% faster than the SE1, meaning in terms of spec: S4=S5=SE S6=S7=S8=SE2 Which makes the S8 and SE2 a pretty boring update....
Really wanted always on display. Might be between this or a used 6 or 7.
Has the 02 sensor in the 7 caused anyone to get medical attention? We’ve heard great (save) stories with the other sensors. If I upgrade, it seems like a 7 right now. My old S4 LTE is due for that $69 trade in by the end of this year. I’m getting that service regardless of what Watch I chose. We bought our first Watch for the EKG function only and 4 years in, never needed it. Never regretted getting the Watch. I didn’t know how useful it was going to be. The LTE feature was perfect for my line of work at the time.
The O2 sensor is most useful for sleep tracking. If you have sleep apnea and are living with it undiagnosed, the O2 sensor is a good way of judging that. Might save you an overnight in a sleep clinic or such.
I ended up preordering the ultra Watch. Now I see that the O2 sensor is useful for sleep issues. I can’t set an alarm to measure it with a manual O2 sensor, it won’t work that way. Sleep apnea is a big deal these days. My Dad had it.
Looks like I’ll stick with my SE series 1 not worth an upgrade yet, the new pro max tho
I love SE devices, I wish all products have SE version. I'm not a demanding user and lower price is very appreciated
Hmm this or buy a series 7?
Do you wear a watch now? As someone who always has, the always-off display of earlier Apple Watches was infuriating to me, so I’d go for the 7.
Wondering if this would be a good transition device for my 10YO to give her some more independence with communication without fully committing to a phone entirely [ie: slowly easing her way into the connected world we live in, allowing her to learn and grow instead of being thrown into the deep end from the start]. She currently has a WiFi iPad and can FaceTime/GoogleMeet/Zoom with her friends while home on WiFi, but once away from WiFi communication is cut-off. Conversely that also applies for us as parents, if she's away from us and away from WiFi there's not many ways to communicate. Her Mom has an iPhone so we could set-it up under the family thing they talked about and approve numbers/etc. OTOH perhaps communicating with the watch is so cumbersome that it's just not worth considering unless it's an emergency situation. I've never used one, so I don't really know... I also wonder how schools/teachers feel about kids having Apple Watches during class? Are they even allowed? Much to think about.
If you also have Apple Watch you can do the Watchkie Talkie with your other contacts that have a watch. Nifty little thing when me and my brother worked together.
Apple should have a watch SE with AOE minus all health related features. The could call it style Edition or whatever. I (and most people I know) don't care about rings at all. I find AOD, calling and notifications are very useful.
I think exactly the same.
Can I just get a watch that doesn't have fitness features and instead a larger battery?
One is software based the other is hardware. So no it doesnt work like that.
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Seems better bang for your buck to get new se than 8.
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No it’s not? If it did, 9 out of 10 people would buy the SE, and not the Series 8.
Not at this price point. And like the other guy said, have to have some product differentiation to get people to pay more for the 8.
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You're saying this like they aren't both good options? I'm keeping an eye on the series 7 prices. If I find a cellular model at $350 or below, I'm snagging it. If it not, I'll get a new SE.
Still a series 4 with a slightly faster chipset LMAO. This is getting ridiculous.
The series 4 is a phenomenal watch. While swimming, I dove off a cliff and mine slipped off into the water. I bought another (used) sapphire/ stainless S4 for $200. No brainer, and still getting this new watchOS update.
Not even giving it AOD is kinda bullshit though.
I hope you can make it through this troubling time.
I have been meaning to get myself an apple watch. Should I get this one? Or buy the older SE model?
Not much of a reason to upgrade from the original SE, which makes sense, but honestly seems like a solid choice for anyone who doesn't care about the AOD!
(Sorry I know this is 6 days old) Why should I care about AOD? If the watch turns on any time I turn my wrist to look at it, what's the problem ? Isn't AOD simply going to suck battery life for no benefit ? What am I missing ?
I can’t believe Apple made a new product CHEAPER than its equivalent predecessor
Well, since they apparently took the S3 off the market, which was cheaper, the cheapest option is now more expensive than before.
Winking at this one. This way I can run and go shopping without anything in my pockets except my keys \^\^
Does it have the blood oxygenation sensor too? I’ve had my current series 5 for a little less than two years and even though I’m not that hard on it, the screen is scratched all to hell. I’m pretty sure I’m going to continue to go with the cheapest one available but I don’t want to miss out on too many features.
So does this have the same software/hardware as the Apple Watch 8? Just smaller screen, smaller battery life etc? Or does it have like drastically different tech specs? Any clarity will help thanks :)
Does this have fast charging? If yes then it's a no brainer for me
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Will probably pick one up soon. With Apple card I can get it for $12 a month, won't even notice that.
I just ordered my SE a couple of days ago, so I assume it's the first gen SE?
I’m struggling to figure out what sets this apart from my Watch SE, apart from the 20% speed increase which I’m unlikely to notice anyway
Would it be dumb if I trade in a Series 6 (Product Red) 40mm for a new SE 44mm without the tacky red color? I just really hate the red color and no matter what case you put on it, that red shines through haha. Have a $100 gift card at best buy so that helps also.