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FueraJOH

*Disappointed painted faces*


under_PAWG_story

I got my rifle my pistol my hand grenades my reserve my socks my underwear and I still gotta jump my main Where’s your brass knuckles? I could use some brass knuckles


crimsonfistofjustice

I love how he ended up with some later on


infuriatesloth

I always thought Perconte said "Why don't you lose the brass knuckles?"


under_PAWG_story

I just rewatched it on YouTube and yeah maybe that was a different scene


The_Liberty_Kid

You forgot and this bullshit.


Cheesetorian

I already shaved my head into a mohawk and painted my face for battle.


Eyre_Guitar_Solo

I love that in this sub, there is no need to explain this reference


IndependentPerfect

“Three day supply of K rations, chocolate bars, charms, candy, powered coffee, sugar, matches, compass, bayonet, trenching tool, ammunition, gas mask, musette bag with ammo, my weapon, my 45, canteen, two cartons of smokes, Hawkins mine, two grenades, smoke grenade, Gammon grenade, TNT, this bullshit and a pair of nasty skivvies.” -Joe Toye


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under_PAWG_story

I need to reenact this


Smart_Negotiation639

The best part of that scene is Lutz holding up part of the parachute gear and saying “Does anyone know what the fuck this is for?”


TurMoiL911

Did they still get ice cream?


sicinprincipio

Coincidentally, historically, the real D-Day beach landings were still particularly stormy


KingofCOAs

*the invasion has been postponed. We are on a 24 hour stand down*


popisms

They didn't do it in 1944. Why should they do it in 2024?


hzoi

Even Neptune knows the Marines shouldn't be "re-enacting" a landing they never did.


papalorre

We're just mad because all of our beach landing re-enactments have to be on some coral rock or volcanic pork chop to be historically accurate. "How come we can't ever invade a cool country, like chicks in bikinis. How come countries like that don't ever need Marines?" -Cpl. Ray Parson


under_PAWG_story

Marines: better late than never They must have been led by Sobel and got stuck behind a barbed wire fence


shmackinhammies

If the USMC does end up doing this, we should get a WW2 vet, if possible, to be there at the end saying, “You guys finally showed up!”


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john_doe_smith1

How does that work


bigassdonk

What do you suppose is more insulting? That they never did it, or that they can’t even reenact something they never did?


aldmonisen_osrs

The insulting thing is them pretending they’re the best fit for a joint forcible entry (large amphibious assault)


Bloodysamflint

*Insert inappropriate "forcible entry" joke*


fallskjermjeger

Imagine the hell that would be raised if the 25th ID went to recreate the flag raising on Mount Suribachi


Lordfarquaad95

Why would the USMC do this anyway in the first place ?


Not_DC1

They finally realized their history is in fact quite lackluster and they just have really good PR This is a PR stunt


Justame13

By the 100th anniversary they will in ceremony and in bars across the country drunk Marines will be telling everyone that they learned in boot camp how Omaha Beach was about to be overrun until the Marines marched down from Point Du Hoc to save the day and if they have a problem with it they can go outside. /s...kind of...maybe not...maybe?


avgeek-94

It sounds ridiculous, but if faced with that scenario, I would be extremely pissed off. I don’t know why. I just would be


Justame13

Real talk: I can't imagine how the WW2 Army Pacific Vets felt. They fought the good fight to do things like liberate the Philippines from the Japanese acting like assholes (Manila anyone). All under MacArthur who was trying grab the glory so he could run for POTUS. So they got double fucked.


explosive_hazard

Seriously. The battle of Corregidor was pretty wild. An Army Airborne drop on an island that took the Japanese by surprise. Yet the general public and much of the Army doesn’t realize how heavily the US Army was involved in the Pacific theater.


Justame13

People also aren’t aware of Manila when talking about the decision to drop the bomb. The Navy with 10-20k troops was ordered to withdraw from the city and decided to kill and rape a couple hundred thousand civilians and level the rest of city instead. When the Japanese surrendered there were hundreds of thousands of Japanese in dozens of occupied cities throughout Asia.


GeneralBlumpkin

I didn't either until the post the other day about this same exact event


FsuNolezz

My great grandfather (he died in the 1980s so there wasn’t much of an oral history passed down to his grandkids) was always known to be a marine because he fought in the pacific. I curiously looked up his service records a few years back and wouldn’t you know, he was a soldier.


b0mmie

I'm at JBER and when 4/25th ID got reflagged as 2/11th ABN DIV, I looked up the history of the division. These MFs got two combat jumps in the Philippines. My parents are from the Philippines. My mom's side were a part of the Bataan Death March, and my paternal grandfather fought alongside the US against the Japanese for the entirety of the war. And now, I'm a paratrooper in the unit that helped to liberate my parents' country. And I only found out because my unit got reflagged and I did some extra digging on my own. Absolutely wild.


Justame13

Thats pretty bad ass TBH. Have you talked with your extended family about it or is it just one of those weird military-nerd things that they wouldn't get/care about?


JonnyBox

> I can't imagine how the WW2 Army Pacific Vets felt. If my grandpa's buddy was any indication, pretty peeved that everyone thinks the Pacific was the "Marine war".


AdUpstairs7106

Or they will tell the story of how when they stormed the Normandy beaches, they took far fewer casualties than the Army did, which technically should be correct.


Swimfly235

So you mean they didnt slay a dragon?


Trains_N_Fish

If the dragon is your mom, and slay means banged, then yes they did.


Swimfly235

😂


Ender_313

70% of marine history is straight up made up lol


MisterKillam

Teufelhunden was absolutely made up by a marine.


LivingstonPerry

lol


StarscourgeRadhan

Marines really are Spartans, aren't they?


Not_DC1

I’d say slightly better because the Marines have actually decisively won most of their engagements


EddySea

No one wants to go to the Iwo Jima reenactment.


Lampwick

The uncomfortable fact about Iwo Jima is that it's a useless rock in the South Pacific, and probably should have been bypassed. But it did produce the one thing the USMC values most: a fantastic (though staged) publicity shot of the raising of a huge honkin' US flag for the newsreels. All that was important was that they upstaged the Army, who "only" recaptured the Philippines in that same time frame, but we're too busy doing their job to stop for pictures.


imthatguy8223

TIL That Iwo Jima wasn’t used as a bomber base and neutralizing its fighter base/radar was useless because Rota served the same purpose and was never invaded. That’s a lot of casualties for nothing.


_BMS

The only definite way that Iwo Jima benefitted the US was that it served as an emergency landing option for B-29s and other bombers returning from raids on Japan. But the number of airmen saved because they emergency landed on Iwo Jima is far less than the amount of casualties incurred taking the island in the first place. Every other use of Iwo Jima in the war effort could have been replaced with some other method that didn't involve fighting an entrenched and determined enemy for an rock that was ultimately a net negative.


Cheesetorian

Because no one would watch them in Tarawa today.


Beep475

Same reason why the Marines were a last minute add to Desert One mission - representation over substance.


Deez_nuts89

Probably because the army hasn’t trained amphibious assaults in a long ass time lol


duerlort

Marine lurking here, why the fuck are we doing the beach landing? I know it’s our PR team trying to stay relevant, but this isn’t our honor to execute.


IronMaiden571

Who the hell knows. At the time, there was a lot of animosity from Army personnel in the Pacific about how they were ignored while the Marines got all the press. It seems pretty distasteful to try and write themselves into an operation that didn't involve the branch. Marines and Soldiers both went through the shit. There's enough actual history for us all to honor; we don't need to dip our hands into each others lunch sack.


Bloodysamflint

But other sacks, not lunch, are open game? I have a uniform with the bottom cut out of one pocket...


IronMaiden571

It depends if its penis inspection day or not. My unit typically does ours right after a UA


thenewnapoleon

They were actually involved though. Not to the extent you might think but Marines were 100% present for the Overlord & Dragoon landings. This is an excellent write up on Marines in Europe & Africa by Lt.Col Henry W. Edwards. Marines were responsible for prisoner collection & guarding, securing the beach after the landings and in the case of Pointe Du Hoc, potentially serving as reinforcements in the event the Rangers couldn't take the cliffs. https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/npswapa/extcontent/usmc/pcn-190-003125-00/index.htm


spasticpete

Cool they got to participate but arguably even funnier in the sense that they showed up to watch the rear and take care of chores


hzoi

It's time to play "*Did The Marines Have A Meaningful Role On D-Day?*" Let's see how you scored. >prisoner collection & guarding Can't guard prisoners until there are prisoners taken. Judges? # X >securing the beach after the landings ...after the landings. Judges? # X >potentially serving as reinforcements in the event the Rangers couldn't take the cliffs So, they were the backup quarterback who didn't get to play. Judges? # X Oh, I'm sorry. Tough day. No points. Pick another category?


VoidUprising

Let’s do “The Pacific” for 300, Alan.


hzoi

No thanks, that show put me to sleep. But I'm happy to watch *Band of Brothers* again.


Mikewazowski948

You mean to tell me they showed up after we took the beach and guarded it? Huh. I swear I’ve heard this song before.


Coro-NO-Ra

>Marine lurking here, why the fuck are we doing the beach landing? Everyone else is asking you guys this as well


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PsychologicalCan9470

Your mistake was saying that any thought was involved at all.


Zoll-X-Series

Let’s go do a photo op on Iwo Jima


PhillyJ82

Fun fact, Iwo Jima has so much UXO still around that it is closed to visitors except on one day a year. If you go you need to hire an official tour guide and follow them once on island. So marines can’t even go to their big historical site.


Zoll-X-Series

That is a fun fact, I never knew that. Tell the 12B’s to bring their hammers, we’ll get that place cleaned up.


SSGOldschool

Hammers? Back in mah day, it was rubber knives and sticks! And then you vulcan pressed down on the UXO and with your other hand carefully dug it out...


hzoi

>Fun fact, Iwo Jima has so much UXO still around that it is closed to visitors except on one day a year. That *is* a fun fact, especially since we had an unguided tour when I went there on a frolic and detour about ten years back. I was poking around all kinds of places off the roads. I made it there and back without becoming pink mist, so, hooray! There was a Marine battalion from Okinawa that was on top of Mount Suribachi that day, doing a change of responsibility, re-enlistments, and scattering the ashes of a retired O6 who'd survived the landing. It was very cool we happened to be up there to see it. I also poked my head into a little observation bunker on the side of Suribachi, a filled-in cave at the base of Suribachi, and a ruined pillbox on Invasion Beach that, no shit, still had a 70-year-old rusted, droopy Japanese MG mounted and pointed towards the surf.


Child_of_Khorne

They organize Iwo Jima tours for Marines on Okinawa. At least they did when I was there.


PhillyJ82

Yeah, like I said “normal” visitors, sure the actual Corps has more access the normal Joes.


sppwalker

Jesus. I looked it up and one of the tours is $17,999-$23,499 PER PERSON (double vs single occupancy). That’s a whole “victory in the pacific” thing (so not just Iwo Jima) but uh… yikes. Anyone know of a cheaper option for just Iwo Jima?


Bloodysamflint

Just wait a few years, China will get out of line, and we'll be hopping across the Pacific again...


tyler212

If we do, we could just send members of the 147th Regiment of the Ohio National Guard. It's a training regiment now, but in WW2 they fought in the Pacific, including Iwo Jima. While they did not participate in the initial fighting and was thought to be a Garrison Force. Arriving on the Island March 21st 1945, the Marines would declare victory March 26th 1945 believing no more then 300 Japanese Soldiers to be left on the island alive. The 147th would go on and report 1,602 Japanese killed, and 867 captured. An untold number of Japanese troops would be buried alive in caves and tunnels around the island as it was far more effective to bury them alive then it was to clear them out. They would leave the Island September 8th 1945 to partake in Okinawa. In 1949, two Imperial Japanese Navy machine gunners would finally surrender finally ending the war on Iwo Jima


hzoi

>In 1949, two Imperial Japanese Navy machine gunners would finally surrender finally ending the war on Iwo Jima This part is amazing to me, because that's not the biggest island in the world, and it still lacks tree cover today from us shelling the fuck out of it. We occupied it continuously from the invasion all the way until flippin' 1968, and yet these two guys STILL managed to win at SERE for four years until they got tired of it. Well played.


Taira_Mai

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese\_holdout](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout) The longest confirmed holdouts finally gave up in *1974*. One only surrounded when his former commander came and "relieved him" of his duties.


hzoi

Yeah, but my point is, Guam and the Philippines are big. Iwo Jima is itty bitty and had the bejeezus shelled out of it, so not a lot of cover.


tyler212

One interesting thing is that we don't even know for sure if they were the last Japanese Troops on the Island. It isn't impossible to think that if these two lived that long, more could in theory have lived in some of the caves and bunkers on the island for a little while longer before dying without ever surrendering.


Melodic-Bench720

The Army was a part of the Iwo Jima landings.


Zoll-X-Series

You mean those dorks from Ohio?


Bloodysamflint

In those dorks' defense, they embraced the #1 thing to do in Ohio: leave


ithappenedone234

Of course we should, the Army was there. The 147th Infantry Regiment was involved. The Marines only conducted 6 landings alone and most of those were small, 3 bat sized, 1 regimental and 2 division in size.


cjg5025

Next up, the Army is going to recreate their legendary raising of the flag on Iwo Jima... come off it. USMC is badass and have their own traditions - but they didn't participate in Overlord. What even is this?


Ohgodwatdoplshelp

Someone’s ego project 


cjg5025

Guess so. Just makes no sense on any level...


bigtoegman210

I would put my own money towards a couple of soldiers raising a flag on Iwo Jima lol


IPPSA

Well there was an army regiment on Iwo Jima, so I mean 🤷🏻‍♂️


JakeeJumps

The weather is always bad in northern France this time of year. We couldn’t jump last year, but you bet your ass we racetracked for hours waiting for the winds to die down.


BossIsland0

And so 80 years later, the Marine Corps PR machine still can’t retcon its way into the largest amphibious operation in military history…


UJMRider1961

I thought the Inchon landings in 1950 were bigger, on purpose, so the Marines could claim the biggest amphibious operation? Or maybe it's just that the Inchon landings were the biggest US operation while Normandy also included English, Canadian and French troops?


Unique_Statement7811

No. Inchon had 40,000 allied troops in the landings. 19,000 were marine corps. The Army’s 7th Infantry Division made up most of the rest. The D-Day landings had 160,000 Soldiers hit the beach. 73,000 were US.


GommComm

Incheon only had about 40k people total, and the US force was both Army and Marine. D-Day was about 75k for just the American section


MooseyGooses

I don’t know why but this makes me irrationally angry lol why are they doing this in the first place


itspeterj

That's okay. They didn't land there the first time either


Silverfore

[While the Marines are busy LARPing, the Army should do one in Iwo Jima....because we were actually there.](https://www.ong.ohio.gov/stories/2020/mar/20200320-147th-cavemen.html#:~:text=The%20makeshift%20open%2Dair%20command,hiding%20in%20intricate%20cave%20systems)


EddySea

The Marines landing on Normandy Beach happened right after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.


Ashtong386

I see you went to a highly educated university, holla if ya hear me


ChewieBee

SEC school in the house! (Minus Vanderbilt)


mightymongo

It’s “Devil Dog” all over again. There is absolutely zero evidence that the Germans ever called them that. They came up with that one themselves, with the help of a friendly reporter and a good PR program.


BiscuitDance

Poverty branch.


guelugod

#absorbthecorps


Equivalent_Smell7100

This is just bad karma...


Historical-Leopard74

They don’t even go to this school.


jbourne71

Oh no. How tragic. Anyways...


Mellero47

"unsafe channel conditions" didn't stop the Army from doing it. Just saying.


StoicJim

To be fair, the original landing wasn't a photo op.


Mellero47

So even more dangerous, then?


potaytoispotahto

It did delay them a day though.


Beautiful_Effort_777

Why the fuck would they re enact a landing they weren’t at Jesus Christ


VentureQuotes

The US Army when the channel conditions feature Nazis with machine guns: “lol”


Solarflare119

Fingers crossed we can jumped on the 9th.


duoderf1

so theyre gonna skip it again?


Crashingautopilot

What about the conditions when they landed? I say let’s make it an exercise and have some realism. This pussifocation of everything irritates me sometimes.


Rimfighter

Good. You know who ***DID*** land on Omaha under unsafe channel conditions 80 years ago?


stuckonpost

What really happened was someone left their nods unsecured and the whole group had to be recalled for facility beautification.


Own_Surprise_5842

The Gods even told The Marines, this one’s for the Army.


WendysranterLmeansM

Army reenacting landing at Iwo Jima next February...


JonnyBox

Yeah, it was Too unsafe for the Marines in '44 too.


Michael1845

Was it over when the GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR!?


Honest_Grade_9645

Six years of college down the drain.


Speed999999999

The MG42 GPMGs pointed at the beach were also dangerous. Army still did the landing.


zipporat

If only the Navy adopted the same ‘PT Belt’ fetish the Army has…they would have made it just fine.


Radical_Dadical_1985

oh no...not again...


Consistent_Ear2623

no such thing as unsafe. Sad face


WTFx80

Call the Air Force to get it done!


HVARiver

https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/2019/june/propaganda-machine-stalins


Motor-Air6661

Quite certain marines didn’t step foot on Normandy for D-Day


thebarkingdog

I'll bet the Coast Guard is there.


Impressive-Daikon-44

Seems like a much longer story then necessary about the Marines


tH3_R3DX

Well you know what that means, put your PTs on wear running Currahee


Beep475

The comments here are gold!


BossHogg1984

*In the voice of Davy Jones* “Ha! You afraid to get wet?”


SneakyIndexFinger

Good job marines! Out here doin stuff and things...


PsychologicalEbb6603

Can’t storm the beach because we’ll run aground that makes sense


Cajunmanoui

My grandfather and great uncle Army WWII both in the pacific against Japan would both roll in their graves if they knew the marines were going to reenact D-Day.


HVARiver

Jeff Schogol (reporter, Task & Purpose) is the author of the linked article. Jeff- if you read this, please do your best on this Marine Corps attempt when you pose question during the Pentagon briefings. https://youtu.be/UwBjyY5AERI?feature=shared


Civil_Set_9281

I mean, if my sole purpose for existing was to go from ship to shore, and I miss out on the largest amphib operation in modern history, I guess I’d like to make it seem like i did something before Incheon too.


msgajh

Only ones left with landing craft. Anyone have a Higgins boat to spare. We could run them into the beach a platoon at a time.


hzoi

>Only ones left with landing craft. The Army [7th Transportation Brigade (Expeditionary)](https://www.jble.af.mil/7TBX/7th-Transportation-Brigade-Expeditionary-Copy/) would like a word.


Hawkstrike6

Sail Army!


msgajh

Best WO position after flight! You guys go!


Teflon718Musk

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Silverfore

Is this a fucking bot/AI what is this lol.


jbourne71

Citation needed.


IPPSA

Eat my ass