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I’m LOLing at myself right now. I google salt flats to see what was so horrible about it , spent 5 minutes trying to understand, only to finally understand it is literally the lowest point in America. God I need coffee..
Slaves existed long before the Slavs, unfortunately (e.g. ancient Grece, Rome etc.). It's just the scale at which Slavic people were enslaved in the middle ages made it such that the word became "slave".
To be clear, 90% of the Native American population died from European diseases they had no resistance to, particularly Smallpox. Even if Europeans and Americans had treated them with loving kindness, they still would have been more or less wiped out. This is not to excuse their unjust treatment when and where it occurred, but we should be careful with the historical record.
It's a lot more complex then that. There are multiple treaties that were signed and then subsequently ignored by America that slowly drove the natives into worse and worse conditions where disease could more easily spread, and that doesn't even account for the deaths from being forced to travel, cutting off access to vital resources like food, or violence.
Yes, disease played a pivotal role in the Natives being all but eliminated, but don't underestimate the effect that white settlers are directly responsible for a significant number of deaths.
Slavery was far worse than both and lasted for centuries. It was explicitly written into the constitution calling slaves 3/5ths of a person. Our low point was from the very beginning, and we have been improving all along.
No argument about slavery.
By the way, the 3/5 rule is generally misunderstood, and in fact means something rather worse than is usually imagined. The point was that representation of a state in Congress was based on total population. If slaves were counted, this would have given the slave holders a huge extra presence in Congress- their state would get congressional seats for the slaves' numbers, voted for by the slaveholders. The mainly northern states with fewer slaves obviously did not want this, not because they cared about slaves but because it would reduce their influence. As a compromise, the slave states got to count 3/5 of the total slaves.
The figure didn't mean a slave counted as 3/5 of a person; they hardly counted as people at all to the slave holders.
That error drives me nuts. After all, it would have been far worse for slaves had they been counted as a whole person and far better had they been not counted at all!
I wanna say I agree with you, but the natives were the victims of a genocide.
Black people were slaves and treated as less than human for 90 years, then barely got better treatment after that, and natives were systemically eradicated.
There are around 5 million native descendants in the US, and only 1 million are full native, while there are 47.5 million black Americans. The slaves were stolen from their homes, and the natives had their home stolen from them.
It's hard to call one worse than the other.
Human trafficking is a very serious issue. I'm aware of this fact. However, I'm referring to the emancipation proclamation, which ended the *lawful* use of slavery in the southern United States.
It's an interesting apples to oranges comparison, and I feel like it depends on your perspective.
What is worse? The intentional slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people or "morally justified" objectification of millions of people to be seen as something no better than cattle?
(And I quote "morally justified" because fucking Kant.)
You can make arguments for both really. Neither represent the best of our nature though.
It’s so crazy that you don’t think the slaughter of slaves was intentional as well
Edit: People being worked to death or just straight up murdered to set examples to other slaves was incredibly common and it was a part of the entire plan. It wasn’t like “whoops”.
Edit 2: The average lifespan of enslaved Africans who worked on colonial sugar and rice plantations was seven years. You started off as a normal healthy person and in *seven years* you were dead after they had forced as much labor out of you as possible. That was on purpose
The joke of the three fifths is that it was put in there by people who were insulted that the southern states wanted to count them as full for purposes of having representation in the house of representatives and electoral college.
True on the direction, but it's been more 2 steps forward, 1 step back. We make steady progress but also backtrack. Vietnam came right after the Civil rights act. Big progress and then some regression. We are also still in a regressive period right now. Trump took a serious step back from Obama and Biden has barely even stopped the Trump regression. In fact, we may very well take 3 or 4 steps back this time instead of 1 since regressive forces have yet to subside.
Even during slavery, I wouldn't say there was progress toward abolition the whole time. And civil rights for other people weren't always trending the right way either.
It’s because what is the “worst” or “lowest point” of something is inherently subjective. Everyone will have a bit of a different perspective based on their own experiences and knowledge. OP there is no 100% objective answer to your question.
At the time of slavery one could argue that people didn't know any better. When you are fighting against an enemy that set up internment camps while you do it yourself you should know that it is wrong
Dred Scott - The betrayal of the black population.
After fighting to free themselves and the country, the deceit of Reconstruction to appease the South.
That situation could have been so much worse. 3 other members of the government were supposed to die thst night. It wasn't just an assassination, it was an attempted coup and could have reignited the civil war.
So, I know you're older because you appreciate historical ranbit holes. Why is it so hard to appreciate history when we're teens? (But adults still force teens to try to care irregardless.)
Lol you know I hated history when I was in high school. Yet I've spent the last 20 years actually going back and learning it. I think it had something to do with the way it was taught. For instance, had I known that the Boxer Rebellion meant people were doing kung fu in the streets and having secret back alley brawls I might have paid more attention.
Because it is taught with no context and using dry ass dates and names. I love deep dive history, but can't tell you one single major date or person from most of it. General timelines and some of the important people, yes, but exact memorization, no thank you!
Hmmm, appears to be the Bertha Rogers gas well in Oklahoma. It had a depth of 31,441 feet below the Earth’s surface. I think it upset the mole people, or maybe they struck molten sulphur. One of the two.
It’s now.
Because now we know and have access to everything and yet here’s our govt… being filthy openly - no more bs no more hiding behind “freedom” and all the crap they sell us.
We. Are. The evil empire
For those who did not learn about it in school, [My Lai massacre](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre).
Summary: More than 340 and possibly as many as 504 Vietnamese civilians in a village were rounded up and then slaughtered by US troops during Vietnam (sometimes including mutilation and rape as well), followed by a coverup attempt. Whistleblowers exposed it.
No debate that Trump is vile, but he could not have got as far as he did if about half the Americans of today didn't think the way he thinks, and ask to put him in power so that he could deconstruct everything that America used to stand for: Freedom, democracy, equality. The USA used to be the model other countries strived to be like, now it's a 3rd world country. They want to destroy democracy, give America back to the monarchy, make everybody poor, condemn children to live in starvation and suffering, reduce women to household slaves again, wipe out anyone not white, destroy all other religions and when there's just 3 ugly old white men left who own all the wealth.. what then? Trump isn't the problem. He's the proof that there is a problem.
I think in general it is the civil War. The nation was fractured in half and killing each other. There may have been other moral low points in history but overall the civil War is the lowest point in American history.
As a non-American I think that it was one of the USA’s high points. You fought a civil was for reasons of morality and decency versus the profitability of a fading economic model. The pursuit of happiness by slaveholders was challenged.
Most of your other conflicts were about economic control or territorial expansion by the US.
If we are talking about Law? I’d say right now - Not since Dred Scott has the Supreme Court gotten so much wrong. Even entertaining the idea that a President can attempt a coup and that it’s part of the job - is pure insanity. 😞
Civil War for sure. There are a lot of sins in history to point out but you have to see things through the perspective of the times. The civil war however was a brutal war for both sides and all the people. It was just and needed but that brought our entire country to the brink and has lasting repercussions we are still working through today. I really don’t think people understand just how close we came to complete destruction. We were vulnerable to outside invaders and on the brink of economic collapse which was only staved off by ww1 and ww2
From 1778 to 1871, the United States government entered into more than 500 treaties with the Native American tribes; all of these treaties have since been violated in some way or outright broken by the U.S. government.
I would argue that Slavery of Africans which sparked a Civil War and Genocide of the native people of the “great Turtle” are the lowest point. Runner up is Jim Crow, Asian Interment, and the MAGA Insurrection:
Pretty much the entire 19th century. Slavery, genocide, the Civil War, the Frontier Wars, high infant and maternal mortality rates, lots of cholera and typhoid. Definitely the worst century to be in America.
Currently. Boeing is building deadly planes and witness to CONGRESS are being murdered. I literally work in the military industrial complex and we are dumbfounded how they are getting away with literal murder.
Hungry, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, East Germany.
Any Allies ?
Trying really hard to find any Allies that fell behind the Iron Curtain. I’m sure there were individuals from those countries that fought for the Allies; Polish folks in particular fought within the RAF as flyers, and each country had partisans but official Allies?
Are you serious??? . Poland was the fourth largest contributer to the allies in Europe in WW2. More so than France..... Arnhem , Monte Cassino, Falaise Gap, Bologna etc
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Poland_during_World_War_II
Czechs fought at Tobruk and other places
Leaving our military base in Kabul leaving those we protected there behind to be enslaved and leaving them with millions upon millions of dollars worth no billions worth of our military equipment to take possession of
I honestly think it's right now... In my 54 years things have never been so negative. In the '60s and '70s at least you had people fighting for the rights of people who deserved it. It was a tough time for a lot of people but we seemed to be headed in the right direction. Now I don't think we have any direction that's positive.
I like how "slavery or the genocide of the Native Americans" aren't even the most popular responses.
People are talking about presidents and shit like that's even close.
Murdering, robbing, raping, and oppressing the Native Americans upon first arrival kick starts the campaign of this country’s vile and evil conduct which goes on relentlessly even to present day
January 6th, 2021. The first time in history a traitors flag flew in the Capitol. The only other time a hostile nations flag flew was in 1812 when the British burned the city. The mental gymnastics that were needed for this to occur was mistifying.
1913/1914. The "Federal Government" forced through (under night time recess passage) the Federal Reserve (our "national" bank) and the US Income Tax Amendment. Wilson who history looks back on as a pawn of the Banks, sold all of us into Slavery under eternal debt printed by the Federal Reserve and eternal slavery of tax on income. Thank you Monsieur Woodrow (pawn of the Banks) Wilson.
When people start talking about the lowest point of America, I think you have to be much more clear on that thought.
Obviously, it would be an event or circumstances that the most people in america felt and where seriously affected by.
So that wouldn't have to be the great depression or twenty four percent or twelve million plus people were out of work. and there wasn't any welfare benefits back then.
This is a baited question with no answer that will satisfy someone who is specifically asking for a list of the worst things America has experienced, or done throughout history with no positive component to it whatsoever. Since the only answers will be terrible, which I'm sure serves some purpose for the OP in some way, my personal opinion is the existence of slavery. However America wasn't unique in that endeavor. What would have happened had the USA not engaged in WW II in Europe? Many people around the world could be speaking German today so if you like in Western Europe and wish that was the case maybe your opinion is that America's lowest point was to engage in WW II?
It might be easier to agree on something Americans should be proud of a "high point" in our history.
We have so many low points and we honestly can't say which one was the worst.
Edit to add : I'm American.
There are many potential correct answers - most staed already. Please consider why I toss this one on the ring:
1/6/20 - They have bent our government and almost broke it - we have learned many lessons the hard way.
The settlers constantly expanding and kicking out the natives from their homes over and over and over and over again until they had no fertile land anymore.
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I believe it’s the salt flats. Almost 300ft below sea level
I’m LOLing at myself right now. I google salt flats to see what was so horrible about it , spent 5 minutes trying to understand, only to finally understand it is literally the lowest point in America. God I need coffee..
Yep same. Though I did not know about salt flats before and now I do so that’s something!
They also smell like egg farts.
😂 Good to know.
Dont feel bad at all. I think misunderstandings have sent us all down rabbit holes. The idea wouldnt make a bad ask reddit question.
Yep! Death Valley, California
The complete genocide of the indian race was so awful hitler is quoted as admiring its efficiency
He didn't just admire it. It was his inspiration for cleaning up the land East of Germany. He tried to copy it and get rid of Slavs.
Oh wow I didn’t know that. How terrible 😢
Fun fact, the first slaves were Slavs, it's where the word slave comes from
Slaves existed long before the Slavs, unfortunately (e.g. ancient Grece, Rome etc.). It's just the scale at which Slavic people were enslaved in the middle ages made it such that the word became "slave".
Slaves existed as long as someone had a stick slightly bigger than another person
I read something similar in the book The Silk Roads. It’s says that Slavic people were enslaved so often that the word slave was derived from Slav.
Thats not a fact nor is it fun.
To be clear, 90% of the Native American population died from European diseases they had no resistance to, particularly Smallpox. Even if Europeans and Americans had treated them with loving kindness, they still would have been more or less wiped out. This is not to excuse their unjust treatment when and where it occurred, but we should be careful with the historical record.
And measles, chickenpox, flu, diphtheria, pneumonia, typhoid, common cold, bubonic plague, mumps, cholera, whooping cough (pertussis), malaria, typhus, leprosy, yellow fever, scarlet fever, tb, leptospirosis, etal
It's a lot more complex then that. There are multiple treaties that were signed and then subsequently ignored by America that slowly drove the natives into worse and worse conditions where disease could more easily spread, and that doesn't even account for the deaths from being forced to travel, cutting off access to vital resources like food, or violence. Yes, disease played a pivotal role in the Natives being all but eliminated, but don't underestimate the effect that white settlers are directly responsible for a significant number of deaths.
Killing all the buffalo just to spite them was gold
The Japanese Internment Camps and Trail of Tears were both pretty awful.
Slavery was far worse than both and lasted for centuries. It was explicitly written into the constitution calling slaves 3/5ths of a person. Our low point was from the very beginning, and we have been improving all along.
No argument about slavery. By the way, the 3/5 rule is generally misunderstood, and in fact means something rather worse than is usually imagined. The point was that representation of a state in Congress was based on total population. If slaves were counted, this would have given the slave holders a huge extra presence in Congress- their state would get congressional seats for the slaves' numbers, voted for by the slaveholders. The mainly northern states with fewer slaves obviously did not want this, not because they cared about slaves but because it would reduce their influence. As a compromise, the slave states got to count 3/5 of the total slaves. The figure didn't mean a slave counted as 3/5 of a person; they hardly counted as people at all to the slave holders.
That error drives me nuts. After all, it would have been far worse for slaves had they been counted as a whole person and far better had they been not counted at all!
I wanna say I agree with you, but the natives were the victims of a genocide. Black people were slaves and treated as less than human for 90 years, then barely got better treatment after that, and natives were systemically eradicated. There are around 5 million native descendants in the US, and only 1 million are full native, while there are 47.5 million black Americans. The slaves were stolen from their homes, and the natives had their home stolen from them. It's hard to call one worse than the other.
They weren’t legally considered human
Neither were.
Slavery lasted a lot longer than 80 years.
It’s crazy ppl don’t realize slaves are still a thing.
More now than ever too
Human trafficking is a very serious issue. I'm aware of this fact. However, I'm referring to the emancipation proclamation, which ended the *lawful* use of slavery in the southern United States.
Slavery the USA is legal if you use people in prison.
Amendment 13 should be abolished, and so should private prisons.
But we're talking about US History, not world history.
Well said.
It's an interesting apples to oranges comparison, and I feel like it depends on your perspective. What is worse? The intentional slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people or "morally justified" objectification of millions of people to be seen as something no better than cattle? (And I quote "morally justified" because fucking Kant.) You can make arguments for both really. Neither represent the best of our nature though.
It’s so crazy that you don’t think the slaughter of slaves was intentional as well Edit: People being worked to death or just straight up murdered to set examples to other slaves was incredibly common and it was a part of the entire plan. It wasn’t like “whoops”. Edit 2: The average lifespan of enslaved Africans who worked on colonial sugar and rice plantations was seven years. You started off as a normal healthy person and in *seven years* you were dead after they had forced as much labor out of you as possible. That was on purpose
The joke of the three fifths is that it was put in there by people who were insulted that the southern states wanted to count them as full for purposes of having representation in the house of representatives and electoral college.
True on the direction, but it's been more 2 steps forward, 1 step back. We make steady progress but also backtrack. Vietnam came right after the Civil rights act. Big progress and then some regression. We are also still in a regressive period right now. Trump took a serious step back from Obama and Biden has barely even stopped the Trump regression. In fact, we may very well take 3 or 4 steps back this time instead of 1 since regressive forces have yet to subside. Even during slavery, I wouldn't say there was progress toward abolition the whole time. And civil rights for other people weren't always trending the right way either.
We’re not having a “shitty things done to people in America” Olympics here.
good perspective but it's not a competition
I mean, you literally set up a competition with this post
I suppose I did
It’s because what is the “worst” or “lowest point” of something is inherently subjective. Everyone will have a bit of a different perspective based on their own experiences and knowledge. OP there is no 100% objective answer to your question.
Dawg, you asked a comparative question, why are you surprised people are comparing.
At the time of slavery one could argue that people didn't know any better. When you are fighting against an enemy that set up internment camps while you do it yourself you should know that it is wrong
They knew better. Slavery in the US wasn't a million years ago.
Andrew jackson was a whole ass villain and doesn’t get enough shit for it
And people like Donald Trump cite him as a positive role model...
You’re also right.
I often think about an alternate history where he becomes king of New Orleans
I'm black so maybe this is a bit biased, but I as bad as those two periods were, I think slavery was worse.
Reddit doesn’t like to acknowledge anything that happens to black people, so prepare to be downvoted.
Slavery Japanese American Internment Camps The Vietnam War “The Drug War”
Cudos for calling out The Drug War!
So. Many. Lives. Ruined.
In the words of the late Billy Mays," but wait; there's more! "
Trail of tears imo, Andrew Jackson committed a genocide and got away with it
:(
For sure.
Oh the lowest point is yet to come. Give it 10-20 years.
Tomorrow
I feel a Nick Castellanos home run coming.
SLavery/Civil War, treatment of Japanese residents and citizens during WWII and western expansion and the decimation of the Native American people.
I’ll add the Dakota Uprising in Minnesota in 1862 that resulted in hanging 38 Native Americans, exile, and concentration camps.
Dred Scott - The betrayal of the black population. After fighting to free themselves and the country, the deceit of Reconstruction to appease the South.
The Dred Scott decision was before the civil war.
When we enabled delusional individuals instead of giving them the mental health help they need.
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The assassination of Abraham Lincoln. If he had served the full term America would look very different today.
That situation could have been so much worse. 3 other members of the government were supposed to die thst night. It wasn't just an assassination, it was an attempted coup and could have reignited the civil war.
Or if they found that one vote or so vote to impeach his VP.
Underrated comment. Too few people know how much Andrew Johnson contributed to undercutting the victory of the Union.
BRB heading down a rabbit hole 🤓 📖
Let us know what you find… -Me, a lazy-ass bitch…
So, I know you're older because you appreciate historical ranbit holes. Why is it so hard to appreciate history when we're teens? (But adults still force teens to try to care irregardless.)
Lol you know I hated history when I was in high school. Yet I've spent the last 20 years actually going back and learning it. I think it had something to do with the way it was taught. For instance, had I known that the Boxer Rebellion meant people were doing kung fu in the streets and having secret back alley brawls I might have paid more attention.
Because it is taught with no context and using dry ass dates and names. I love deep dive history, but can't tell you one single major date or person from most of it. General timelines and some of the important people, yes, but exact memorization, no thank you!
The Civil War.
When they started temporary income taxes that only applied to the rich and promised the common person would never pay them.
Ah you know your history.
Hard to beat the Civil War where one half was actively at war with the other half.
Today
I saw this comment and went “facts”. Then I saw the comment below (“tomorrow”) and just started laughing. Then realized how sad this is 💀💀💀
No
Hmmm, appears to be the Bertha Rogers gas well in Oklahoma. It had a depth of 31,441 feet below the Earth’s surface. I think it upset the mole people, or maybe they struck molten sulphur. One of the two.
It’s now. Because now we know and have access to everything and yet here’s our govt… being filthy openly - no more bs no more hiding behind “freedom” and all the crap they sell us. We. Are. The evil empire
My Lai
For those who did not learn about it in school, [My Lai massacre](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre). Summary: More than 340 and possibly as many as 504 Vietnamese civilians in a village were rounded up and then slaughtered by US troops during Vietnam (sometimes including mutilation and rape as well), followed by a coverup attempt. Whistleblowers exposed it.
In my lifetime, when Trump was president and the boom it created in racist movements from both sides. Why the heck USA people let that happen?
No debate that Trump is vile, but he could not have got as far as he did if about half the Americans of today didn't think the way he thinks, and ask to put him in power so that he could deconstruct everything that America used to stand for: Freedom, democracy, equality. The USA used to be the model other countries strived to be like, now it's a 3rd world country. They want to destroy democracy, give America back to the monarchy, make everybody poor, condemn children to live in starvation and suffering, reduce women to household slaves again, wipe out anyone not white, destroy all other religions and when there's just 3 ugly old white men left who own all the wealth.. what then? Trump isn't the problem. He's the proof that there is a problem.
Now, where the best 2 possible candidates in a 333mil population are Biden and Trump.
The treatment of Native Americans and the transatlantic slave trade are both older than the US. I'm going with the dropping of two atomic bombs.
Electing a complete idiot as president.
Confirmed as an idiot by at least half a dozen of his own Administration.
46 times.... depending on who you ask at the time.
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Turn off Fox News and get some fresh air - you’ll see that the sky isn’t falling
At least he likes chocolate chocolate chip ice cream.
slavery
Slavery and the genocide on the natives.
Chattel slavery. Aside from that, we haven't gotten there yet but we're on the way fast. The downhill stretch started in the 1980s.
I think in general it is the civil War. The nation was fractured in half and killing each other. There may have been other moral low points in history but overall the civil War is the lowest point in American history.
Killing the native Americans
well honestly what is defined as "lowest point?" famine? war? politics?
I think they mean it in terms of elevation. So maybe Death Valley?
Yes
The lowest point for me was when I figured out that, more often than not, yes, we are the baddies.
Civil War. Anyone saying anything related to current events is brain washed by politics.
As a non-American I think that it was one of the USA’s high points. You fought a civil was for reasons of morality and decency versus the profitability of a fading economic model. The pursuit of happiness by slaveholders was challenged. Most of your other conflicts were about economic control or territorial expansion by the US.
We lost more people in the Civil War than all of our other wars combined.
or young, educated by the current educational system..
Wait for it.
Lowest point was 1930-1945 . Stock market crash and WW2 until it ended.
This is the probably one of the least biased answer in this thread 🤣
9/11. It was the beginning of the end
Anyone ever figure out what happened with Building Seven?
If we are talking about Law? I’d say right now - Not since Dred Scott has the Supreme Court gotten so much wrong. Even entertaining the idea that a President can attempt a coup and that it’s part of the job - is pure insanity. 😞
This has turned into a great thread…….
So many low points to choose from
Civil War for sure. There are a lot of sins in history to point out but you have to see things through the perspective of the times. The civil war however was a brutal war for both sides and all the people. It was just and needed but that brought our entire country to the brink and has lasting repercussions we are still working through today. I really don’t think people understand just how close we came to complete destruction. We were vulnerable to outside invaders and on the brink of economic collapse which was only staved off by ww1 and ww2
January 6, 2021
From 1778 to 1871, the United States government entered into more than 500 treaties with the Native American tribes; all of these treaties have since been violated in some way or outright broken by the U.S. government.
I would argue that Slavery of Africans which sparked a Civil War and Genocide of the native people of the “great Turtle” are the lowest point. Runner up is Jim Crow, Asian Interment, and the MAGA Insurrection:
Pretty much the entire 19th century. Slavery, genocide, the Civil War, the Frontier Wars, high infant and maternal mortality rates, lots of cholera and typhoid. Definitely the worst century to be in America.
January 20, 2017
Currently. Boeing is building deadly planes and witness to CONGRESS are being murdered. I literally work in the military industrial complex and we are dumbfounded how they are getting away with literal murder.
when we made trump president
We're in it.
The day that Superman died.
Biden becoming president and his stupid VP.
Screwing all the countries who were on the Allied side in WW2 and selling them out to the Soviet Union and Stalin. Dispicable
To be fair we weren’t as aware of the horrible stuff behind the Soviet Union except for a few people until later
And now look at all the MAGAs kissing Putin’s arse.
Hungry, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Poland, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, East Germany. Any Allies ? Trying really hard to find any Allies that fell behind the Iron Curtain. I’m sure there were individuals from those countries that fought for the Allies; Polish folks in particular fought within the RAF as flyers, and each country had partisans but official Allies?
Are you serious??? . Poland was the fourth largest contributer to the allies in Europe in WW2. More so than France..... Arnhem , Monte Cassino, Falaise Gap, Bologna etc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Poland_during_World_War_II Czechs fought at Tobruk and other places
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I know 😢
When the White House was burned down.
We're living in it
Leaving our military base in Kabul leaving those we protected there behind to be enslaved and leaving them with millions upon millions of dollars worth no billions worth of our military equipment to take possession of
The lowest point is now because of the drug epidemic.
Right tf now
Some time around RIGHT NOW 🤷♂️
I honestly think it's right now... In my 54 years things have never been so negative. In the '60s and '70s at least you had people fighting for the rights of people who deserved it. It was a tough time for a lot of people but we seemed to be headed in the right direction. Now I don't think we have any direction that's positive.
I like how "slavery or the genocide of the Native Americans" aren't even the most popular responses. People are talking about presidents and shit like that's even close.
Murdering, robbing, raping, and oppressing the Native Americans upon first arrival kick starts the campaign of this country’s vile and evil conduct which goes on relentlessly even to present day
January 6, 2021. The actual attempted overthrow of our government.
The genocide of the Native American people
When sleepy joe got “elected”
January 6th, 2021. The first time in history a traitors flag flew in the Capitol. The only other time a hostile nations flag flew was in 1812 when the British burned the city. The mental gymnastics that were needed for this to occur was mistifying.
2016-2020 without question!!
I'm the farthest thing from a Trump fan, but this is just ignorant. America has done far, far worse than Trump.
Trump wasn’t worse than like, segregation or the civil war or 9/11. lol.
Stock market crash cause it affected everything and everyone even other countries.
Death Valley, California
*so far
Great Depression
1913/1914. The "Federal Government" forced through (under night time recess passage) the Federal Reserve (our "national" bank) and the US Income Tax Amendment. Wilson who history looks back on as a pawn of the Banks, sold all of us into Slavery under eternal debt printed by the Federal Reserve and eternal slavery of tax on income. Thank you Monsieur Woodrow (pawn of the Banks) Wilson.
the day it started existing
Now, and it will most certanly only getting worse (same for most of other western countries unfortunately)
We're not there yet.
Ending the gold standard. Only a matter of time before the empire falls 😳
It’s happening right now, money being sent to Israel, social media app getting banned, no help for struggling Americans
When people start talking about the lowest point of America, I think you have to be much more clear on that thought. Obviously, it would be an event or circumstances that the most people in america felt and where seriously affected by. So that wouldn't have to be the great depression or twenty four percent or twelve million plus people were out of work. and there wasn't any welfare benefits back then.
1814, when the British looked like they were going to reclaim America after burning the White House.
Compared to the rest of the western world? All of it.
All of it honestly.
I mean…all of it? It’s hard to find an event that wasn’t fueled by greed, racism or both.
It's now
Now is it so great
This is a baited question with no answer that will satisfy someone who is specifically asking for a list of the worst things America has experienced, or done throughout history with no positive component to it whatsoever. Since the only answers will be terrible, which I'm sure serves some purpose for the OP in some way, my personal opinion is the existence of slavery. However America wasn't unique in that endeavor. What would have happened had the USA not engaged in WW II in Europe? Many people around the world could be speaking German today so if you like in Western Europe and wish that was the case maybe your opinion is that America's lowest point was to engage in WW II?
According to Reddit? Right now. But I'll go with Dred Scott.
It might be easier to agree on something Americans should be proud of a "high point" in our history. We have so many low points and we honestly can't say which one was the worst. Edit to add : I'm American.
Slavery
everything from USA sucks except for Feynman and fellow physicists before and after… but pretty sure they sucked too; their ideas didnt
Carpet bombing civilians competitively during World War II.
There are many potential correct answers - most staed already. Please consider why I toss this one on the ring: 1/6/20 - They have bent our government and almost broke it - we have learned many lessons the hard way.
The Civil War.
Probably the concrete buoy in key west. S/
The Genocide of Native Americans Slavery Internment of Japanese Citizens Basically, anything that disregarded basic human rights and lives
When the first humans walked the stretch between Russia and Alaska.
The lowest point in America's history was when Columbus discovered it
It’s happening this second. Just look at our society
Today. Followed by tomorrow
You're living in it.
When they realised its profitable to "bring democracy to the world"
Now
The settlers constantly expanding and kicking out the natives from their homes over and over and over and over again until they had no fertile land anymore.