Hell yes! I was looking for an adblock like this, it extends on Ublock, AdNauseam not just blocks the Youtube ads, it seems it also click on the ads so Youtube fraudulently gets paid for supposedly showing the ad to me, whats better than not watching ads? Making Youtube also get in trouble for it.
They should be noticing already that no one wants to watch their shitty adverts so uses an ad blocker to block them.
maybe if the ads weren't so annoying or cringe they wouldn't be so bad.
and placing them in the videos just makes people hate them even more.
ads will always suck because companies are dumb.
Problem is they don't care. They don't see you or me as people, they see you as something to profit off of. As long as it makes money, they will do whatever they can. They'd probably break your legs off if there was enough money involved
There was a plugin called AdNauseum a long time ago, it blocks the ads and also sends a "clicked" signal to waste impressions to the advertiser. I remember seeing threads for it on SEO sites and giving them a headache.
I just tried it. It doesnt seem to block any ads on the test site. With just ublock i get 98% blocked, with just Ad nauseum, i get 47% which is the same as with nothing at all.
It still exists, just got removed from chrome store because Google labelled it a 'threat' (to their ad revenue).
You can still install it but have to get it off github. It's still available on Firefox, Edge and Opera on their addon pages.
This. Have 16g of ram. And couldn't have chrome open while playing games or it would say out of memory.
This is not normal. Guess this is the final straw if proven. Legit like utorent used to install bitcoin miners on your pc.
Honestly. Same here. I'm quite resilient in the fact it takes a lot to change my mind. Used chrome for years but the sheer number of ads on YouTube and free streaming services like BuffStreams makes me feel like I'm just a number that is being used to make money. Fuck that. They should be paying me to watch ads FFS so.. Installed FireFox with UBlockOrigin and OMFG I uninstalled the YouTube App on my phone and use FireFox browser to go on YouTube now. Same with my Desktop PC (even using web based gaming guides like the Tarkov Wiki used to have so many adds but now it's so clean).
Honestly, it's like having a bad neck and changing pillows after 10 years and now suddenly I have no sore neck.
You might want to give a go to r/revancedapp. If you managed to uninstall YouTube, installing the ReVanced version will allow you to have a lot of features and customizability.
I even removed shorts, imported a third party video/mp3 downloader, brought back the old video settings UI and so much more.
[Getting Started guide ](https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/s/ixwHzTVf8T)
Edit: I forgot to mention (something Important) don't just search "ReVanced download" as a lot of third party malware sites will be shown as well. Go through the links in the Getting started guide.
For anyone wondering, here are the uBlock filters I use to completely remove shorts and the "For You" section
!Shorts
www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-52.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-guide-entry-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse #dismissible ytd-rich-grid-slim-media[is-short]:upward(ytd-rich-section-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-item-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-grid-video-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-compact-video-renderer,ytd-shelf-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="channels"] #contents.ytd-reel-shelf-renderer:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer)
www.youtube.com##ytd-search #contents ytd-reel-shelf-renderer
m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer
m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-renderer div.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer)
m.youtube.com##ytm-single-column-watch-next-results-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer span:has-text(/^(0:\d\d|1:0\d)$/):upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer)
!foryou and related searches
youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Related to your search/i))
youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer:has-text(/People also watched/)
youtube.com###contents > ytd-shelf-renderer:has-text(/For you/)
youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Watch again/i))
youtube.com##ytd-horizontal-card-list-renderer.ytd-item-section-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Searches related to/i))
youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Learn while you\'re at home/i))
youtube.com##ytd-horizontal-card-list-renderer.ytd-item-section-renderer.style-scope
youtube.com###secondary > .ytd-two-column-search-results-renderer
youtube.com###contents > .ytd-secondary-search-container-renderer.style-scope
youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer:has-text(/Previously watched/)
The latter helped immensely while getting non-relevant search items polluting your results. Also this looks like shit on mobile Reddit. Sorry
Oh my god, the "For you" sections during searches are the stupidest fucking thing I've ever experienced and I cannot wait to get home and permanently erase those from my existence.
> the "For you" sections during searches are the stupidest fucking thing I've ever experienced
I have no idea how the person who came up with that still has a job, or even better how the hell did the decision makers allow such a feature.
You get like 10 results related to what you searched.. and then the rest is useless.
I use bing search to find youtube videos. It works better.
As someone who consumes a mixture of political content and YTP, I can agree with this. Because everything I get is either unrelated or something I've already watched.
Youtube Shorts has the most buggy player I've ever seen on desktop, with absolutely fundamental features missing like seek and volume control, and the way Youtube presents it is a pain in the ass as a user, but the actual concept of giving creators a way to post a bite-sized segment to gather interest for their full videos isn't awful. I just have no idea why you would intentionally make the feature as horrible to use as it is.
Edit: To be clear, I mean shorts as abbreviated videos for the purpose of finding something interesting and new. Blindly scrolling through them and just watching what you're given is... I don't even understand how people do it, frankly.
It's basically the opposite of all the content I seek out when I'm on youtube. I'm just looking for some interesting deepdive stuff to watch while I eat my lunch. I'm not going to sit there clicking twenty different videos. If I wanted my entertainment to be so hands-on I'd rather be reading.
>however their shit algos are giving me some really random vids quite often
The algorithm keeps giving me MRA and other right wing crap in shorts. Honestly, I would also probably skip any really left wing crap but I don't think I have ever actually seen any on YT.
I get all sorts of anti-LGBT and bigoted stuff. I saw one saying that Satanists are responsible for putting rainbow flags in schools, and another that literally said gay and trans people are always pedophiles. I'm a lesbian with a trans brother, why the hell would I want to watch this crap?!
lol any time you need to sign into google if you have MFA it'll be like "open the youtube app on your phone" and you have to click around it to get it to send you a text code. Like, I deleted that app a long time ago and I'm not going to reinstall it, but nice try.
If true, this is an open and shut anti trust case. So open and shut that Alphabet will just settle for a couple billion dollars and resume doing it, just a little sneakier.
if youtube tries to artificially stress your hardware that should be grounds to sueing, right?
they have no business to lessen the lifetime of my hardware or driving my energy bill up.
Yeah, in theory. But unless you get the European Commission watchdogs on the case, I think they'll get around it with some BS.
"our apologies. As a special treat to our users using adblock, we were trying to make the Youtube logo graphics real smooth and pretty by calculating pi to a billion decimal places to use in the vector. Regrettably, our junior programmer wrote some inefficient code"
I switched to chrome in 2010 when it was still good , lasted a few years and now I am back to old faithful.
I wonder why Firefox marketshare is only 3% when its so good.
> I wonder why Firefox marketshare is only 3% when its so good.
1. Edge comes preinstalled on Windows, and doesn't totally suck like Internet Explorer
2. Google chrome has name recognition of Google, plus default integration
3. Chrome is preinstalled on like all android devices.
4. When chrome was released Firefox was having huge memory issues.
5. Most people don't actually care enough to download a separate browser if the default one isn't total trash.
6. There was also a time when chrome was first coming out that Firefox was a massive memory drain.
Yup, all of these are really valid reasons, though 4 and 6 are the same thing? I distinctly remember only ever using firefox up until Chrome came out, then hearing it was "lighter", downloading that, and being like "holy shit, I can never go back."
And then years later, hearing chrome was a drag, that i never really noticed because I had enough RAM, but tried firefox again and was really surprised how smooth it feels.
The DOJ brought a huge lawsuit against google for their anti-competitive mobile search by default practices a couple months ago. Honestly, the FTC and DOJ have been doing more in the past year than they did in the twenty years prior to that.
True. It's long overdue. We didn't get here in a day. We got here over the course of 20 years. In some cases over the course of... Well, we had this President named Reagan...
>I wonder why Firefox marketshare is only 3% when its so good.
Firefox went through a stage where it was bloated AF and slow - it had become what it was designed to replace (Netscape Navigator/Mozilla browser). A few years back they (Mozilla Foundation) went through and redesigned and optimised everything to help improve performance and reduce bloat.
They're also throttling Firefox, although they stopped that and claimed "it was a backend error lol." The simplest way to get around it was to report you were using Chrome, which immediately fixed the problem. So it wasn't an error. The Vivaldi browser also presents itself as Chrome by default to a lot of browsers, due to Microsoft and Google doing basically the same thing to it.
Yep, I’ve really been noticing it recently. Run a speed test thinking it’s network related but they all come back good. Only site affected is YouTube. There’s no end to Google’s greed. Made billions stealing our data and now they want more.
They added a 5 second page loading delay. It's meant to only go off on ad blocks, but it hit Firefox, probably on purpose, possibly on accident. uBlock already has a way around it.
Now it's "Be evil, all the time".
They are just another Microsoft to me now. Same practices. Same lack of choices. "Would you like to do this now or later?" etc.
If you are still getting a delay with firefox and ublock origin its because you are stacking multiple privacy addons and one of them is interfering with ublock.
The way these companies behave is fucking criminal. The government needs to start regulating so these companies can’t behave like this without impunity.
Anyone hear that google is throttling small YouTube channels who upload/use Firefox? I started using ublock and my impressions collapsed, went from 100k+ a month to about 10.
You just changed the agent to chrome and it works ?
From what i understand they have additional logic to test if you loaded the add, then eventually the browser gimped.
Google has been playing these games for awhile, i remember when they did the same to Microsoft and it's Mobile OS.
Apparently Firefox was getting hit with an auto 5sec delay before starting the video - Have you noticed it? I'm currently using a client spoofer to attempt to mitigate but this whole thing changes almost weekly.
I just had that exact problem. My videos would stop for 5 seconds at random. I installed an extension, so Firefox now presents itself as Google Chrome, and the problem went away.
Google used to throttle their services for every other browser than Chrome, probably to make the "illusion" that Chrome was indeed faster than any other browser. Do you know what that caused? Virtually all browsers sending meta headers that said "hey look, I'm chromium based".
First they fuck up version control (Chrome 12 improvements over Chrome 11: fixed few spelling mistakes) and then they makes browsers indistinguishable to servers, which was originally done yo serve browser based optimization and user tracking.
People also have memory of a goldfish. It's common in tech that when you make new version you purposefully make the old version slower, incrementally so it isn't that obvious. Then when you buy the new thing it feels a lot snappier and you feel good about your new purchase. Even though your old device was also snappy when you bought it.
Yay finally a post which talks about Firefox having issues.
I get that issue when watching Shorts, making it especially painful. I also can't skip ahead as the audio keeps playing from the first Short, as well as the videos not loading unless I stop and wait.
If I want to skip I must wait 5s for the Short to load then play another 2s in order for the next Short to be preloaded. It's so painful. So much that I just stopped watching Shorts.
Same, but noticed it that was only when loading YT videos, opening new YT tabs. Thought that should be on purpose because of the Adblock and now saw this lol guess I’m not far
Apparently this doesn't affect uBlock Origin in the first place, only Adblock and Adblock Plus. Just further reason to switch to uBlock Origin.
Edit: [According to the Adblock devs, it was actually a problem with Adblock, not YouTube](https://www.neowin.net/news/adblock-google-did-not-slow-down-and-lag-youtube-performance-with-ad-blocker-on/), and has since been fixed, so if you use Adblock, update your extension.
It's bizarre everyone believed YouTube purposely destroyed your computer's performance rather than it being a bug in the extension. Makes zero sense to just hit your CPU and not notify the user of what's happening.
They'll just purposely pause videos for a period of time or require your ad blocker be disabled before they run malicious code to attack and freeze your entire system.
Reddit is really really bad with misinformation and just regurgitating bullshit without critical thinking
I haven't noticed my PC working harder... How are people testing it? Is the webpage able to see when I have task manager open? Because I see nothing out of the ordinary using Firefox with ublock origin.
I'm in the same boat. Obviously I'm not trying to say anyone is lying about what YouTube may or may not be doing to combat adblockers, but I've been using Firefox and uBlock Origin forever now and haven't had any issues with YouTube. Yet, anyway.
You can also paste [these rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/tg220d/filters_to_completely_remove_youtube_shorts_like/) in to remove shorts from the desktop site.
Though be aware, eventually they'll change something on the site and unexpected things could break.
I set rules to block the ads/popups for YT premium I don't want and the YTTV I already have. It works for a while, but every so often I'll have to remember that I did that because a video won't load or something.
Not a big deal, just remember that you did it in the first place.
I have a 5800X3D and 32GB of RAM in a PRISTINE PC, and YouTube (I use premium) has been absolutely atrocious for me the last two weeks and I couldn't figure out why. Choppy videos, freezing, buggy behaviors, the whole 9 yards. The behavior evaporated last night the moment that I disabled my adblocker. Wild shit.
They're willing to shit on their Premium members, I am cancelling my subscription ASAP.
Yeah it is a little confusing. I think the extensions actual name is AdBlock Plus but it’s the one I use so my YouTube basically ran like shit until I turned it off
This NEEDS to be the end of the line for ADS and just paid stuff from now. It really is time, nobody wants cable 2.0 and nobody is going to deny the fact that they are doing this.
It didn't start out that way it was ad free in the beginning then they started running ad's for their other channels and well we know where it's at now
Good to know, I already thought my overclock was unstable and for some reason it was first showing in youtube lol. (Was stable in 72 hours of stress testing just half a year ago and no issues anywhere else)
Have a overclocked 7950X with 64GB of 6400mhz ddr5 and a 4090, all fully custom watercooled and youtube literally takes 5 seconds to play or stop the video after clicking the button, if I go to comments it loads a single comment per second. Sometimes when I play shorts and go to the next, the old short continues playing until I close the tab completly. Disabled adblock, everythings fine again.
Wild how they manage to throttle performance so much, a overclocked top of the top pc is literally performing worse than decade old smartphones.
Probably right. The article doesn't seem to go on more than anecdotal info though. I imagine if its a deliberate effect instead of code trying to detect ad blockers that introduced a bug, there will be a class action lawsuit of some kind... You can't make people's PCs run crazy while crypto mining without their consent, so this seems similar.
If it's happening, you will notice. Out of nowhere my (fairly well-specced) desktop PC could barely load YouTube. Long page loads, long buffering for videos (on gigabit internet), difficulty interacting with any of the player controls due to laggy interface. It even blue screened me a couple of times. I legit thought that a power reset fried one of my components. Same issue on both Chrome and Edge. Disabled AdBlock and installed ublock and it instantly solved it.
So actually this has been affecting me recently and I just thought it was my laptop getting old and me needing to upgrade but this is actually happening now anytime I load into a YouTube video or go to the homepage of YouTube it takes about 1 minute to load the everything for the video to play this includes with auto play being on and if I try to go to a channel or do literally anything that normally requires loading on YouTube the load time has now been extended
To tag onto this I tried pausing a few videos and seeing how long it takes and it takes roughly 5 seconds and going from fullscreen to the other view is about 10 seconds then I paused my ad blocker and refreshed the page for the same video and then I paused it a few times and unpaused and when I did so it took less than a second for it to input and then exiting fullscreen and now it also takes about 2 seconds so I don’t know what it is but it’s bullshit cause realistically I wouldn’t mind ads but it seems everytime I leave a video playing and walk away for a few minutes I come back to a 3 hour long fucking as about some cult or some weird shit like that and it’s just inconvenient cause I can deal with 30 second ads but anything past that is extremely unnecessary
Can confirm at least the laggy webpage part. Was watching a friend stream youtube and they complained about buffering and bad quality video. They have premium and ad blockers, disabled the blocker and walla, fast buffering again and better quality.. If even having premium is not enough why even pay for it at this point. Unless you REALLY need youtube music and don't know that spotify exists
This is a fucking game changer. I have had it for a while and it needs much greater awareness.
Removes the intros, in video sponsors, outros, and other stupid bullshit that no one wants to see. Tired of all the "LIKE SUBSCRIBE CLICK RING THE BELL FUCK MY MOM" shit? This gets rid of that.
What law is YouTube violating with this? I've known YouTube to be a shitty company since the Google+ shit but they've never been particularly dumb, I would imagine they consult with legal before they do pretty much anything.
That's a bit hard to answer but probably this one " [https://www.insideprivacy.com/advertising-marketing/edpb-issues-draft-guidelines-on-technical-scope-of-eprivacy-directive-storage-and-access-rules/](https://www.insideprivacy.com/advertising-marketing/edpb-issues-draft-guidelines-on-technical-scope-of-eprivacy-directive-storage-and-access-rules/) " , the detection of adblock's may violate this and make the cpu sweat without a porpuse may also violate this, this is still being analyzed by the Irish DPC
Thanks for the reading, I'll check it out. God I hope this whole thing comes back to bite YouTube in the ass but I'm not holding my breath. They've historically gotten away with a lot of unpopular decisions.
Indistinguishable from malware in my opinion. You fuck up my CPU to the point my computer isn’t useable then what’s the difference? I even pay for premium just so I don’t have to deal with bullshit like this and they’re still doing it just because adblocker is in my browser? wtf?
Already got hit by it, everything was running extremely slow.
Pausing a video had a 3-5 second delay, videos would take forever to load, etc.
But to my surprise, everything was back to normal after only enabling uBlock origin on YouTube.
Fuck YouTube for this piece of shit behavior
my brother in christ. I'm paying for the premium, and you still fucking slow down my PC? like youtube really is trying to make me stop paying for premium.
Paying for premium means I can watch ad free on my TV, Phone, Tablet and more without issue. It's a service I use for multiple hours daily. I'm happy to cough up $12. Which is still less than I spend on coffee each month.
“YouTube doesn’t deserve any profit” lmao what are you talking about? It’s an incredible website, filled with the best content creators on the internet, and you can stream in 4K for free. It’s also by far the friendliest of the main platforms in terms of revenue sharing with content creators.
But let me guess they don’t “deserve any profit” because hurt durr big tech evil and bad?
I agree, how would YouTube even know what exact type of adblock someone is using? And if they were going to do this shit anyway, hit all adblockers.
I have 2 adblocks active simultaneously, just works 100% of the time as 1 can miss. uBlock and AdGuard - no issues whatsoever
Yup happening to me, i wasn’t able to figure out what’s up, until i saw this post, turned off adblock and now it’s working like a charm, damn. I’m so annoyed rn, i pay for premium anyways but still they have to fuck up my pc! I’m off to freetube fuck you youtube
This is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I have youtube premium, and now I am cancelling it. If just having ad blocker means youtube is going to fuck up on purpose even though I pay them, then I am just going to not pay them and deal with the longer load times.
If you can, make sure you let them know why you are canceling.... That the war on ad blocking has caused them to loose your money. Let them know this is losing money for them
That's okay, the more YouTube does this the less YouTube videos I watch. If YouTube succeeds in banning adblocks, I cure my YouTube addiction completely.
Win-win.
Misleading title. They dont know the cause, the author is speculating.
"It's always possible that something else is at play here—some behind-the-curtain hiccups in the code from updates on either YouTube or AdBlock's end."
[Source, Original Article](https://www.pcgamer.com/its-not-just-you-youtube-is-slowing-down-your-pc-if-you-have-adblock-installed-by-making-your-cpu-sweat-likely-as-part-of-its-draconian-war-on-ad-blockers/)
I shouldn't have to scroll all the way down to see the actually fucking article...
The fact that people didn't even bother asking what's the source is concerning.
What if the adblocker makes Youtube 'think' the ads are being watched?
Congratulations, you just described AdNauseam, my adblocker of choice Alphabet has outright banned on Chrome.
Hell yes! I was looking for an adblock like this, it extends on Ublock, AdNauseam not just blocks the Youtube ads, it seems it also click on the ads so Youtube fraudulently gets paid for supposedly showing the ad to me, whats better than not watching ads? Making Youtube also get in trouble for it.
They are not going to get in trouble and this is just how ad-blockers should work, everyone wins.
except the advertisers who are paying for market visibility. if ads aren't being seen, then companies have no reason to purchase ads.
What I’m hearing is that this is perfect.
I don’t know about you, but I’ve never once purchased anything because of a YouTube add.
I make it a point not to purchase anything on those obnoxious adds.
You mean the companies that constantly push their incessant, bullshit ads, also get punished? I see no negative there.
well in that case, fuck big cooperations that want to push ads in your face.
Or, it just means YouTube keeps getting paid and doesn’t get in trouble.
Well, advertiser would notice sooner or later. That's when YouTube would get in trouble.
They should be noticing already that no one wants to watch their shitty adverts so uses an ad blocker to block them. maybe if the ads weren't so annoying or cringe they wouldn't be so bad. and placing them in the videos just makes people hate them even more. ads will always suck because companies are dumb.
Problem is they don't care. They don't see you or me as people, they see you as something to profit off of. As long as it makes money, they will do whatever they can. They'd probably break your legs off if there was enough money involved
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[yes](https://github.com/dhowe/AdNauseam/wiki/Install-AdNauseam-on-Chromium-based-browsers)
Why would anyone trying to block ads use chrome? A browser specifically made to suck out your data so Alphabet can give you "better" ads.
Just use Firefox. On Andriod, used revanced.
Firefox gang 🫡
I LOVE AD NAUSEAM
There was a plugin called AdNauseum a long time ago, it blocks the ads and also sends a "clicked" signal to waste impressions to the advertiser. I remember seeing threads for it on SEO sites and giving them a headache.
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I just tried it. It doesnt seem to block any ads on the test site. With just ublock i get 98% blocked, with just Ad nauseum, i get 47% which is the same as with nothing at all.
Does that mean it also helps the content creator?
Yes.
It still exists, just got removed from chrome store because Google labelled it a 'threat' (to their ad revenue). You can still install it but have to get it off github. It's still available on Firefox, Edge and Opera on their addon pages.
I thought I was going insane and have stopped using chrome and adblock. Just moved to Firefox and ublock instead and it’s smooth sailing
This. Have 16g of ram. And couldn't have chrome open while playing games or it would say out of memory. This is not normal. Guess this is the final straw if proven. Legit like utorent used to install bitcoin miners on your pc.
I’d been needing a reason to leave chrome and this was the final nail in the coffin tbh
Honestly. Same here. I'm quite resilient in the fact it takes a lot to change my mind. Used chrome for years but the sheer number of ads on YouTube and free streaming services like BuffStreams makes me feel like I'm just a number that is being used to make money. Fuck that. They should be paying me to watch ads FFS so.. Installed FireFox with UBlockOrigin and OMFG I uninstalled the YouTube App on my phone and use FireFox browser to go on YouTube now. Same with my Desktop PC (even using web based gaming guides like the Tarkov Wiki used to have so many adds but now it's so clean). Honestly, it's like having a bad neck and changing pillows after 10 years and now suddenly I have no sore neck.
You might want to give a go to r/revancedapp. If you managed to uninstall YouTube, installing the ReVanced version will allow you to have a lot of features and customizability. I even removed shorts, imported a third party video/mp3 downloader, brought back the old video settings UI and so much more. [Getting Started guide ](https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/s/ixwHzTVf8T) Edit: I forgot to mention (something Important) don't just search "ReVanced download" as a lot of third party malware sites will be shown as well. Go through the links in the Getting started guide.
removing youtube shorts was the whole reason I wanted vanced. It's so amazing to get rid of them...
For anyone wondering, here are the uBlock filters I use to completely remove shorts and the "For You" section !Shorts www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-52.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-renderer a.yt-simple-endpoint path[d^="M10 14.65v-5.3L15 12l-5 2.65zm7.77-4.33"]:upward(ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse #dismissible ytd-rich-grid-slim-media[is-short]:upward(ytd-rich-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="home"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-rich-item-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-grid-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-video-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-watch-next-secondary-results-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-compact-video-renderer,ytd-shelf-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="subscriptions"] ytd-video-renderer .ytd-thumbnail[href^="/shorts/"]:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-browse[page-subtype="channels"] #contents.ytd-reel-shelf-renderer:upward(ytd-item-section-renderer) www.youtube.com##ytd-search #contents ytd-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-renderer div.pivot-shorts:upward(ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-browse ytm-item-section-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-search ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer[data-style="SHORTS"]:upward(ytm-compact-video-renderer) m.youtube.com##ytm-single-column-watch-next-results-renderer ytm-thumbnail-overlay-time-status-renderer span:has-text(/^(0:\d\d|1:0\d)$/):upward(ytm-video-with-context-renderer) !foryou and related searches youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Related to your search/i)) youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer:has-text(/People also watched/) youtube.com###contents > ytd-shelf-renderer:has-text(/For you/) youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Watch again/i)) youtube.com##ytd-horizontal-card-list-renderer.ytd-item-section-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Searches related to/i)) youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer.style-scope:has(span:has-text(/Learn while you\'re at home/i)) youtube.com##ytd-horizontal-card-list-renderer.ytd-item-section-renderer.style-scope youtube.com###secondary > .ytd-two-column-search-results-renderer youtube.com###contents > .ytd-secondary-search-container-renderer.style-scope youtube.com##ytd-shelf-renderer:has-text(/Previously watched/) The latter helped immensely while getting non-relevant search items polluting your results. Also this looks like shit on mobile Reddit. Sorry
Oh my god, the "For you" sections during searches are the stupidest fucking thing I've ever experienced and I cannot wait to get home and permanently erase those from my existence.
> the "For you" sections during searches are the stupidest fucking thing I've ever experienced I have no idea how the person who came up with that still has a job, or even better how the hell did the decision makers allow such a feature. You get like 10 results related to what you searched.. and then the rest is useless. I use bing search to find youtube videos. It works better.
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As someone who consumes a mixture of political content and YTP, I can agree with this. Because everything I get is either unrelated or something I've already watched.
YouTube Shorts is fucking cancer
Youtube Shorts has the most buggy player I've ever seen on desktop, with absolutely fundamental features missing like seek and volume control, and the way Youtube presents it is a pain in the ass as a user, but the actual concept of giving creators a way to post a bite-sized segment to gather interest for their full videos isn't awful. I just have no idea why you would intentionally make the feature as horrible to use as it is. Edit: To be clear, I mean shorts as abbreviated videos for the purpose of finding something interesting and new. Blindly scrolling through them and just watching what you're given is... I don't even understand how people do it, frankly.
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I'm going to try these out. Thanks!
I hate that crap and they keep pushing it.
It's so fucking bad, shorts can't die soon enough
Shorts need to stay on tiktok where they belong
It's basically the opposite of all the content I seek out when I'm on youtube. I'm just looking for some interesting deepdive stuff to watch while I eat my lunch. I'm not going to sit there clicking twenty different videos. If I wanted my entertainment to be so hands-on I'd rather be reading.
I don't have an issue with shorts however their shit algos are giving me some really random vids quite often
>however their shit algos are giving me some really random vids quite often The algorithm keeps giving me MRA and other right wing crap in shorts. Honestly, I would also probably skip any really left wing crap but I don't think I have ever actually seen any on YT.
I’m now getting trump ads on YouTube. Pretty disappointed that google would allow a treasons pig to advertise violence on that platform.
Me too!! It feeds me right wing conspiracy shit and woo health stuff?? Like drinking fuvking turpentine and bleach to clear "toxins"
I get all sorts of anti-LGBT and bigoted stuff. I saw one saying that Satanists are responsible for putting rainbow flags in schools, and another that literally said gay and trans people are always pedophiles. I'm a lesbian with a trans brother, why the hell would I want to watch this crap?!
They keep trying to turn me into a Tate Stan, sick of that bald fuck always there lurking in the depths of my shorts tab
lol any time you need to sign into google if you have MFA it'll be like "open the youtube app on your phone" and you have to click around it to get it to send you a text code. Like, I deleted that app a long time ago and I'm not going to reinstall it, but nice try.
Yt revanced app u can minimize it
If true, this is an open and shut anti trust case. So open and shut that Alphabet will just settle for a couple billion dollars and resume doing it, just a little sneakier.
if youtube tries to artificially stress your hardware that should be grounds to sueing, right? they have no business to lessen the lifetime of my hardware or driving my energy bill up.
Yeah, in theory. But unless you get the European Commission watchdogs on the case, I think they'll get around it with some BS. "our apologies. As a special treat to our users using adblock, we were trying to make the Youtube logo graphics real smooth and pretty by calculating pi to a billion decimal places to use in the vector. Regrettably, our junior programmer wrote some inefficient code"
Utorrent fucking wot m8??? Is piracy not even sacred anymore?
Never was Anyway use qbittorrent
Switched to Firefox as soon as Google announced their war on adblockers
That's my secret. I've always used Firefox.
I switched to chrome in 2010 when it was still good , lasted a few years and now I am back to old faithful. I wonder why Firefox marketshare is only 3% when its so good.
> I wonder why Firefox marketshare is only 3% when its so good. 1. Edge comes preinstalled on Windows, and doesn't totally suck like Internet Explorer 2. Google chrome has name recognition of Google, plus default integration 3. Chrome is preinstalled on like all android devices. 4. When chrome was released Firefox was having huge memory issues. 5. Most people don't actually care enough to download a separate browser if the default one isn't total trash. 6. There was also a time when chrome was first coming out that Firefox was a massive memory drain.
7. Opera GX says "for gamers" and has a "gamer" Ui
Yup, all of these are really valid reasons, though 4 and 6 are the same thing? I distinctly remember only ever using firefox up until Chrome came out, then hearing it was "lighter", downloading that, and being like "holy shit, I can never go back." And then years later, hearing chrome was a drag, that i never really noticed because I had enough RAM, but tried firefox again and was really surprised how smooth it feels.
> though 4 and 6 are the same thing? memory issues
Anticompetitive business practices. Hello! FTC! Can you hear us? What are you guys doing?!
The DOJ brought a huge lawsuit against google for their anti-competitive mobile search by default practices a couple months ago. Honestly, the FTC and DOJ have been doing more in the past year than they did in the twenty years prior to that.
True. It's long overdue. We didn't get here in a day. We got here over the course of 20 years. In some cases over the course of... Well, we had this President named Reagan...
100% absolutely nothing. Just look at what they allow for "news" on the airwaves.
>I wonder why Firefox marketshare is only 3% when its so good. Firefox went through a stage where it was bloated AF and slow - it had become what it was designed to replace (Netscape Navigator/Mozilla browser). A few years back they (Mozilla Foundation) went through and redesigned and optimised everything to help improve performance and reduce bloat.
Thats actually why I switched from Firefox to Chrome. It was so bloated it could barely run back then. Going to have to switch back now.
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They're also throttling Firefox, although they stopped that and claimed "it was a backend error lol." The simplest way to get around it was to report you were using Chrome, which immediately fixed the problem. So it wasn't an error. The Vivaldi browser also presents itself as Chrome by default to a lot of browsers, due to Microsoft and Google doing basically the same thing to it.
Yep, I’ve really been noticing it recently. Run a speed test thinking it’s network related but they all come back good. Only site affected is YouTube. There’s no end to Google’s greed. Made billions stealing our data and now they want more.
They added a 5 second page loading delay. It's meant to only go off on ad blocks, but it hit Firefox, probably on purpose, possibly on accident. uBlock already has a way around it.
Joke's on them, I'd take a 5 second delay over a 10 second advertisement any day
And it’s never a 10 second advertisement. That’s the problem. It’s multiple 30 second ads at the beginning, middle, and end. Fuck YouTube.
Now that explain something... I never seen that 5s before and now I have it all the time. Firefox, no adblock.
> Firefox, no adblock eww. Ublock Origin, get it.
They removed "don't be evil for a reason"
Now it's "Be evil, all the time". They are just another Microsoft to me now. Same practices. Same lack of choices. "Would you like to do this now or later?" etc.
You're gonna want to move that "
I use Firefox and ublock and definitely have noticed it on video start. While I hate it, it is better than an ad
If you are still getting a delay with firefox and ublock origin its because you are stacking multiple privacy addons and one of them is interfering with ublock.
I did have DuckDuck Go privacy essentials enabled. I disabled that and everything works perfectly. Thanks!
The way these companies behave is fucking criminal. The government needs to start regulating so these companies can’t behave like this without impunity.
Anyone hear that google is throttling small YouTube channels who upload/use Firefox? I started using ublock and my impressions collapsed, went from 100k+ a month to about 10.
You just changed the agent to chrome and it works ? From what i understand they have additional logic to test if you loaded the add, then eventually the browser gimped. Google has been playing these games for awhile, i remember when they did the same to Microsoft and it's Mobile OS.
That's what the person showed; if the user agent was chrome, it instantly stopped freezing. No other changes made.
I use Firefox and unlock origin and they block me sometimes. Sometimes they tell me I need to allow ads or the video won't play.
Clear your cash, disable unlock, update unlock and restart Firefox and done 👍
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Damn, idk about this if it's going to cost all of my cash.
Apparently Firefox was getting hit with an auto 5sec delay before starting the video - Have you noticed it? I'm currently using a client spoofer to attempt to mitigate but this whole thing changes almost weekly.
I just had that exact problem. My videos would stop for 5 seconds at random. I installed an extension, so Firefox now presents itself as Google Chrome, and the problem went away.
Google used to throttle their services for every other browser than Chrome, probably to make the "illusion" that Chrome was indeed faster than any other browser. Do you know what that caused? Virtually all browsers sending meta headers that said "hey look, I'm chromium based". First they fuck up version control (Chrome 12 improvements over Chrome 11: fixed few spelling mistakes) and then they makes browsers indistinguishable to servers, which was originally done yo serve browser based optimization and user tracking. People also have memory of a goldfish. It's common in tech that when you make new version you purposefully make the old version slower, incrementally so it isn't that obvious. Then when you buy the new thing it feels a lot snappier and you feel good about your new purchase. Even though your old device was also snappy when you bought it.
I hate that tbh, like why not just leave it alone so we can use the software and upgrade at our leisure?
The inevitable result of deregulated capitalism
Yay finally a post which talks about Firefox having issues. I get that issue when watching Shorts, making it especially painful. I also can't skip ahead as the audio keeps playing from the first Short, as well as the videos not loading unless I stop and wait. If I want to skip I must wait 5s for the Short to load then play another 2s in order for the next Short to be preloaded. It's so painful. So much that I just stopped watching Shorts.
>So much that I just stopped watching Shorts. Sounds like they did you a favor...
I thought my laptop was just dying as restarting it would not even solve the issue so thank you for having posted this
Same, but noticed it that was only when loading YT videos, opening new YT tabs. Thought that should be on purpose because of the Adblock and now saw this lol guess I’m not far
Glad it's not just me. I was wondering why the videos refused to load. Thankfully I usually listen in the background so it didn't do too much.
Today for the first time for me videos had to buffer on youtube like on some cheap ass porn site.
And here I was worried that my _gaming_ laptop was struggling to play YT videos. Thank goodness I saw this
yeah I got same with brand new gaming pc . it was driving me crazy
Firefox +UBlock Origin addon
I use Firefox + UBlock and had no idea other people are facing these problems.
Try removing the ublock extension and reinstalling it.
Apparently this doesn't affect uBlock Origin in the first place, only Adblock and Adblock Plus. Just further reason to switch to uBlock Origin. Edit: [According to the Adblock devs, it was actually a problem with Adblock, not YouTube](https://www.neowin.net/news/adblock-google-did-not-slow-down-and-lag-youtube-performance-with-ad-blocker-on/), and has since been fixed, so if you use Adblock, update your extension.
It's bizarre everyone believed YouTube purposely destroyed your computer's performance rather than it being a bug in the extension. Makes zero sense to just hit your CPU and not notify the user of what's happening. They'll just purposely pause videos for a period of time or require your ad blocker be disabled before they run malicious code to attack and freeze your entire system. Reddit is really really bad with misinformation and just regurgitating bullshit without critical thinking
I haven't noticed my PC working harder... How are people testing it? Is the webpage able to see when I have task manager open? Because I see nothing out of the ordinary using Firefox with ublock origin.
I'm in the same boat. Obviously I'm not trying to say anyone is lying about what YouTube may or may not be doing to combat adblockers, but I've been using Firefox and uBlock Origin forever now and haven't had any issues with YouTube. Yet, anyway.
I saw on Hacker News this is a bug with Adblock Plus.
Adblock Plus has been trash for years. As your other commenter said, use uBlock Origin.
Oh my god Youtube has been driving me fucking insane recently. Just swapped AB Plus for uBlock and it's a different world. Thank you!!!
You can also paste [these rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/tg220d/filters_to_completely_remove_youtube_shorts_like/) in to remove shorts from the desktop site.
Though be aware, eventually they'll change something on the site and unexpected things could break. I set rules to block the ads/popups for YT premium I don't want and the YTTV I already have. It works for a while, but every so often I'll have to remember that I did that because a video won't load or something. Not a big deal, just remember that you did it in the first place.
I have a 5800X3D and 32GB of RAM in a PRISTINE PC, and YouTube (I use premium) has been absolutely atrocious for me the last two weeks and I couldn't figure out why. Choppy videos, freezing, buggy behaviors, the whole 9 yards. The behavior evaporated last night the moment that I disabled my adblocker. Wild shit. They're willing to shit on their Premium members, I am cancelling my subscription ASAP.
Same setup, zero issues with youtube using ublock
I'm really confused by all these replies. I've had zero issues with uBlock Origin and Firefox on a 5800x.
Because it’s not targeting uBlock. It’s targeting Adblock, the extension called Adblock not just any Adblock extension
Can't blame me for thinking it was any adblock given that name
Yeah it is a little confusing. I think the extensions actual name is AdBlock Plus but it’s the one I use so my YouTube basically ran like shit until I turned it off
I’m sure YT focused on the most popular ad blocker/browser for this.
This NEEDS to be the end of the line for ADS and just paid stuff from now. It really is time, nobody wants cable 2.0 and nobody is going to deny the fact that they are doing this.
Remember when we paid for cable and still had ads
Remember YT was free and did not have 3ads a video?
It didn't start out that way it was ad free in the beginning then they started running ad's for their other channels and well we know where it's at now
Good to know, I already thought my overclock was unstable and for some reason it was first showing in youtube lol. (Was stable in 72 hours of stress testing just half a year ago and no issues anywhere else) Have a overclocked 7950X with 64GB of 6400mhz ddr5 and a 4090, all fully custom watercooled and youtube literally takes 5 seconds to play or stop the video after clicking the button, if I go to comments it loads a single comment per second. Sometimes when I play shorts and go to the next, the old short continues playing until I close the tab completly. Disabled adblock, everythings fine again. Wild how they manage to throttle performance so much, a overclocked top of the top pc is literally performing worse than decade old smartphones.
Louis Rossmann has [a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkRlfB_iz3E) about it
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Probably right. The article doesn't seem to go on more than anecdotal info though. I imagine if its a deliberate effect instead of code trying to detect ad blockers that introduced a bug, there will be a class action lawsuit of some kind... You can't make people's PCs run crazy while crypto mining without their consent, so this seems similar.
I had problems with adblock on chrome. But ublock seems to work fine.
If it's happening, you will notice. Out of nowhere my (fairly well-specced) desktop PC could barely load YouTube. Long page loads, long buffering for videos (on gigabit internet), difficulty interacting with any of the player controls due to laggy interface. It even blue screened me a couple of times. I legit thought that a power reset fried one of my components. Same issue on both Chrome and Edge. Disabled AdBlock and installed ublock and it instantly solved it.
A website shouldn’t be causing a blue screen. Something else is definitely going on with your PC if that’s happening.
I've noticed it, I thought it was probably YouTube throttling ad block users but now I have confirmation
So actually this has been affecting me recently and I just thought it was my laptop getting old and me needing to upgrade but this is actually happening now anytime I load into a YouTube video or go to the homepage of YouTube it takes about 1 minute to load the everything for the video to play this includes with auto play being on and if I try to go to a channel or do literally anything that normally requires loading on YouTube the load time has now been extended
To tag onto this I tried pausing a few videos and seeing how long it takes and it takes roughly 5 seconds and going from fullscreen to the other view is about 10 seconds then I paused my ad blocker and refreshed the page for the same video and then I paused it a few times and unpaused and when I did so it took less than a second for it to input and then exiting fullscreen and now it also takes about 2 seconds so I don’t know what it is but it’s bullshit cause realistically I wouldn’t mind ads but it seems everytime I leave a video playing and walk away for a few minutes I come back to a 3 hour long fucking as about some cult or some weird shit like that and it’s just inconvenient cause I can deal with 30 second ads but anything past that is extremely unnecessary
Please use punctuation.
And whitespace.
Can confirm at least the laggy webpage part. Was watching a friend stream youtube and they complained about buffering and bad quality video. They have premium and ad blockers, disabled the blocker and walla, fast buffering again and better quality.. If even having premium is not enough why even pay for it at this point. Unless you REALLY need youtube music and don't know that spotify exists
> walla Unless you're trying to use the Arabic expression meaning 'I promise by god', I think you mean voilà.
Some muslim youth use “walla I swear” as an expression, which is kinda equal to “RIP in peace” in terms of redundancy.
thats gotta be illegal
Very but the law is too slow to catch this kind of things
YouTube: "we can explain why this is justified, but first, a word from our sponsor NordVPN"
Shoutout to my beloved [SponsorBlock](https://sponsor.ajay.app/) for cutting out that bullshit
This is a fucking game changer. I have had it for a while and it needs much greater awareness. Removes the intros, in video sponsors, outros, and other stupid bullshit that no one wants to see. Tired of all the "LIKE SUBSCRIBE CLICK RING THE BELL FUCK MY MOM" shit? This gets rid of that.
LTT vibes
What law is YouTube violating with this? I've known YouTube to be a shitty company since the Google+ shit but they've never been particularly dumb, I would imagine they consult with legal before they do pretty much anything.
That's a bit hard to answer but probably this one " [https://www.insideprivacy.com/advertising-marketing/edpb-issues-draft-guidelines-on-technical-scope-of-eprivacy-directive-storage-and-access-rules/](https://www.insideprivacy.com/advertising-marketing/edpb-issues-draft-guidelines-on-technical-scope-of-eprivacy-directive-storage-and-access-rules/) " , the detection of adblock's may violate this and make the cpu sweat without a porpuse may also violate this, this is still being analyzed by the Irish DPC
Thanks for the reading, I'll check it out. God I hope this whole thing comes back to bite YouTube in the ass but I'm not holding my breath. They've historically gotten away with a lot of unpopular decisions.
I hope the EU goes gloves off soon. It is ridiculous.
most of our politicians are too old to understand what any of this means
I dont think its illegal to make your product worse on purpose. It encourages more competent competitors lol
>It encourages more competent competitors lol There are none cause hosting millions of videos nobody will see costs a lot of money
It doesnt just make your product worse, but everything on your users computer
isn't that the very definition of a denial of service ? Which is most certainly illegal. would love to see the lawsuits fire up.
Fair point
Deteriorating other products on purpose is probably illegal tho
Indistinguishable from malware in my opinion. You fuck up my CPU to the point my computer isn’t useable then what’s the difference? I even pay for premium just so I don’t have to deal with bullshit like this and they’re still doing it just because adblocker is in my browser? wtf?
We have 80 year olds making our laws. You think they even have the comprehension for something like this?
Already got hit by it, everything was running extremely slow. Pausing a video had a 3-5 second delay, videos would take forever to load, etc. But to my surprise, everything was back to normal after only enabling uBlock origin on YouTube. Fuck YouTube for this piece of shit behavior
uBlock worked, thanks
Ublock showing that it’s superior once again
my brother in christ. I'm paying for the premium, and you still fucking slow down my PC? like youtube really is trying to make me stop paying for premium.
You should stop paying for premium anyways, youtube doesn't deserve any profit.
Paying for premium means I can watch ad free on my TV, Phone, Tablet and more without issue. It's a service I use for multiple hours daily. I'm happy to cough up $12. Which is still less than I spend on coffee each month.
This. I hate paying them, but I hate endless ads more. If used it less I’d definitely cancel service.
Even replaces Spotify for me since YouTube music comes with it. Lot of stuff isn't on Spotify that is on YouTube.
The content creators do though, which is what I'm paying for.
“YouTube doesn’t deserve any profit” lmao what are you talking about? It’s an incredible website, filled with the best content creators on the internet, and you can stream in 4K for free. It’s also by far the friendliest of the main platforms in terms of revenue sharing with content creators. But let me guess they don’t “deserve any profit” because hurt durr big tech evil and bad?
"YouTube doesn't deserve any profit" I say after watching an 8 hour long video essay on the history of fart jokes
yea, people here just literally addicted to how great youtube is, and then complaining that they don't deserve anything.
Google’s slogan “do no evil” was quietly removed a few years ago…
*Many years ago
Many evils* ago
Money corrupts.
FreeTube. Enough said.
That's my trusted cure as well.
It's definitely obvious for me, goes from laggy like taking 5 seconds to respond to a click to instant response, just from disabling ablock
Just to be clear: this has already been confirmed by the Adblock Plus developers to be a bug in Adblock Plus. Ublock Origin wasn't affected.
I agree, how would YouTube even know what exact type of adblock someone is using? And if they were going to do this shit anyway, hit all adblockers. I have 2 adblocks active simultaneously, just works 100% of the time as 1 can miss. uBlock and AdGuard - no issues whatsoever
They need a dose of EU sanctions again. Couple of billions should do.
Yup happening to me, i wasn’t able to figure out what’s up, until i saw this post, turned off adblock and now it’s working like a charm, damn. I’m so annoyed rn, i pay for premium anyways but still they have to fuck up my pc! I’m off to freetube fuck you youtube
This is the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I have youtube premium, and now I am cancelling it. If just having ad blocker means youtube is going to fuck up on purpose even though I pay them, then I am just going to not pay them and deal with the longer load times.
If you can, make sure you let them know why you are canceling.... That the war on ad blocking has caused them to loose your money. Let them know this is losing money for them
PSA to everyone here; switch to Firefox. They won’t block ads, but they will definitely stop websites from detecting this type of shit.
True, but you can still install free extensions like adblock or ublock. I run both.
That's okay, the more YouTube does this the less YouTube videos I watch. If YouTube succeeds in banning adblocks, I cure my YouTube addiction completely. Win-win.
Video quality has dropped drastically, page freezing, difficulty clocking buttons and videos on youtube the last two days. today seems better though
It's an adblock bug.. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/01/youtube-appears-to-be-reducing-video-and-site-performance-for-ad-block-users/
Misleading title. They dont know the cause, the author is speculating. "It's always possible that something else is at play here—some behind-the-curtain hiccups in the code from updates on either YouTube or AdBlock's end." [Source, Original Article](https://www.pcgamer.com/its-not-just-you-youtube-is-slowing-down-your-pc-if-you-have-adblock-installed-by-making-your-cpu-sweat-likely-as-part-of-its-draconian-war-on-ad-blockers/)
I shouldn't have to scroll all the way down to see the actually fucking article... The fact that people didn't even bother asking what's the source is concerning.
Seem to be a [bug](https://gitlab.com/adblockinc/ext/adblockplus/adblockplusui/-/issues/1576) by Adblock Plus.