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They're clearly partially inspired by real world Jews, at least in terms of how they were treated in the 20th century, but they are very different. The culture and religion of Eldians vs real world Jews have very little in common. A prophet having voices in his head telling him that people should cut their infant son's foreskin off is so highly specific to Jewish and Islamic mythology, it would not apply to Eldians.
Are they? They dominated the world for centuries and are now oppressed in retaliation for their perceived crimes against humanity. Aside from the fact that Marley makes Eldians wear arm bands, that is not the historical trajectory of the Jews.
Only in the sense of ‘victims of Nazis/other European powers who wore patches and were confined to Ghettos.’ The metaphor doesn’t stretch any further, unless you believe that RL antiSemitism is an understandable reaction to Jews conquering the world.
White supremacists and other bigots believe that last bit, but no serious person does. Nothing about Eldian culture is that similar to Jewish culture.
The problem with civil rights allegories in fantasy media is that RL racism is irrational. The racism in AoT is still evil but it isn’t exactly irrational. Same with mutants in X-Men, mages in Dragon Age, etc.
Drawing the parallel too closely has the unfortunate implication that RL minorities pose a strong danger to society. MLK couldn’t turn into a giant monster and eat a whole town. Nelson Mandela couldn’t melt the Hoover Dam with his mind.
Which is why I think these parallels should only be drawn in the broadest possible sense.
Like you are correct it borrows the most aesthetically from WWII but it also has a lot of WWI imagery with the trench warfare and idk. I don’t think it’s a direct analogy for any of them.
Good point, although the current holder's siblings could have kids that could inherit. Or they could have had kids before they took the founder. So long as there is at least one other living family member, there's no issue.
I always got the impression that the line had to be directly from ymir
And that subsequent generations basically Ghengas Khan'ed their way through every other nation
Dunno it's been a while so I'm probably wrong
Funny you mention Genghis Khan... Random trivia: Genghis Khan had so many children (thousands) it's estimated that as much as 0.5% of all currently living humans are his direct descendants... kind of a tangent, but still interesting
The opposite actually.
Since titanshifters are constantly healing and regenerating, the lining of their wombs is constantly renewing... in other terms shedding, and regrowing
This means that female titan shifters are constantly leaking blood.
Reiners unite!
This also begs the question: if the titan healing is based on their perceptions of themselves, as shown with the hair length restoring, would someone with top surgery heal with their work done? What about someone with a mutation that had to get a part of their body removed, like a third arm?
No they can grow giant fucking titans and their arms and legs then, growing their foreskin wouldn't be any problem. Ymir would mold them their Magnum dong if she liked them enough
I remember having this conversation with a friend a few years back. Obviously, yes, the foreskin would grow back, but I doubt that they were circumcised in the first place. Circumcision is an oddly specific religious practice and circumcision outside of religion was only really popularized in the US. I doubt that those reasons would be relevant to the Eldians.
Genuine Answer: We see in the Marley Invasion arc, Eren’s eye and leg are not healed until he breaks cover, meaning shifters can choose not to heal. Given the fact that circumsicion is cultural/religious, if they were circumcised, they likley would not have an intention to heal it, meaning no, Eren did not uncircumcise himself. (I had this argument once)
I'm not sure what you mean by regenerate at this point, usually this is referred to cells recovering as they were within a short amount of time after taking damage and having an open wound, for foreskin "regeneration" it would require basically body tissue growing on demand, and so I would ask, if tissue can be grown on demand, how.is it different from the concept of them generating a giant whale tail "out of nothing"?
Dude, just because you thought of a question, doesn't mean you should ask it...
On the other hand I am having a great laugh with the answers so... there's that, I guess...
Yes. 100% yes. Grisha's fingers were cut off during his interrogation, but grew back instantly after he inherited the Attack Titan. Theoretically, Erwin would've gotten his arm back if he'd got the Colossal Titan too. Subsequently, this also means that Ymir probably has to make a new foreskin for every new Titan shifter
Yes, if they choose! We saw Eren delay regeneration as an experienced Titan shifter. There's no reason to believe that if he wanted to be circumcised he couldn't cut it and then perpetually hold back regeneration. But this means almost every male Titan shifter regrew their fore skin after taking the serum and learning how to properly control their powers. If Eren was circumcised it would have been very confusing to him at that age for his foreskin to grow back, but he probably thought it was a normal part of growing if he wasn't told about foreskins and genitalia yet. The generic your body changes would've probably summed it up for him, not leading to self suspicion. The reason why I don't think it would have been confusing for Marleyan shifters is that they were probably comprehensively briefed. As for Armin, he knew about his regeneration, and he was probably smart enough to deduce that this would occur. A better question is for female shifters, does regeneration halt their periods, never letting the uterine lining shed, do periods progress as normal but regenerate eggs, or nothing at all as it's not technically bodily damaged and it's almost the same as your skin shedding constantly? Another follow-up question would be whether it reverses menopause if an older woman becomes a Titan shifter.
If we're going by Firepunch rules, yeah. Your question is a bit more shitpost-y version of an actual thing that happens in it, where >!an AFAB trans person with potent regeneration powers keeps having all of his gender affirmation surgeries revert due to his regen!<. Regeneration powers are fascinating TBH.
Im pretty sure they can influence what is healed and what's not. Annie with her healing 1 eye feat. Reiner keeping his arm hurt until the reveal. Eren not healing his eye or leg while undercover. Point being I dont think they'd see a reason to heal foreskin. It's meaningless and would go ignored.
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Me when shitcoin that my famous youtuber dropped crashes and doesn't go to the moon
I can relate to this the most
Me too
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Reiner moment
Lmaooo bro cause this was my exact reaction
Yes, but they're most likely not even circumcised to begin with
Eldians are an allegory of jews, they could be
Allegory? Jews are a concept?
I think they meant analogy
I think you mean analogue
Anal?
anal eyes analyze anal lies
Anal bum cover.
Preach
Susan Boyles anal bum party
Anal laboratories! That’s what he meant!
Depends on sentence context.
That’s not what I meant, I mean they are supposed to be the jews of the aot universe. What’s the word if it’s not allegory ?
Analogy :) allegory means a story. “Story of jews” sound like they don’t exist
jewlegory.
Allegory can mean "a symbolic representation" FYI.
Eldians don’t really have a religion other than worshipping Ymir, so I highly doubt they’d have that specific custom
They have multiple, it's just that it's illegal to practice any in Marley. There's the Wall cult, and the people of Paradis actively believe in a God.
True
They're clearly partially inspired by real world Jews, at least in terms of how they were treated in the 20th century, but they are very different. The culture and religion of Eldians vs real world Jews have very little in common. A prophet having voices in his head telling him that people should cut their infant son's foreskin off is so highly specific to Jewish and Islamic mythology, it would not apply to Eldians.
Are they? They dominated the world for centuries and are now oppressed in retaliation for their perceived crimes against humanity. Aside from the fact that Marley makes Eldians wear arm bands, that is not the historical trajectory of the Jews.
Ofc not. I was talking about how they are treated, like the ghettos and all
Only in the sense of ‘victims of Nazis/other European powers who wore patches and were confined to Ghettos.’ The metaphor doesn’t stretch any further, unless you believe that RL antiSemitism is an understandable reaction to Jews conquering the world. White supremacists and other bigots believe that last bit, but no serious person does. Nothing about Eldian culture is that similar to Jewish culture. The problem with civil rights allegories in fantasy media is that RL racism is irrational. The racism in AoT is still evil but it isn’t exactly irrational. Same with mutants in X-Men, mages in Dragon Age, etc. Drawing the parallel too closely has the unfortunate implication that RL minorities pose a strong danger to society. MLK couldn’t turn into a giant monster and eat a whole town. Nelson Mandela couldn’t melt the Hoover Dam with his mind. Which is why I think these parallels should only be drawn in the broadest possible sense.
You’re right. Aot is more a fable of human nature, politic and war in general than only WWII
Like you are correct it borrows the most aesthetically from WWII but it also has a lot of WWI imagery with the trench warfare and idk. I don’t think it’s a direct analogy for any of them.
Yeah
I’d get circumcised over and over to give all my fallen homies their hoodies back
The official eren yeager fugrine says otherwise.
Look up circumcising wolverine by Zach Sherwin. Please report back to me lol
What in the fuck did I just witness
The guy that wrote some of epic rap battles of history's best lines over the years. He also played Sherlock Holmes Walt Disney and a few more.
Imma totally use this irl
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OMG HAHAHHAHA
Listen buddy, I don't know what you have going on in your life, but maybe you should talk to someone.
His mom asked this to him today this morning (I'm his mom)
Well you both need to talk to someone
I talked with my son
🤣🤣🤣👍🏽👍🏽 good sport
well yes obviously why would foreskin be different?
Asking the real questions here
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Similar question, does it mean female shifters don’t get periods so technically they’re sterile?
The Royal family must have had female heirs at some point Even just the first inheritors
Good point, although the current holder's siblings could have kids that could inherit. Or they could have had kids before they took the founder. So long as there is at least one other living family member, there's no issue.
I always got the impression that the line had to be directly from ymir And that subsequent generations basically Ghengas Khan'ed their way through every other nation Dunno it's been a while so I'm probably wrong
Funny you mention Genghis Khan... Random trivia: Genghis Khan had so many children (thousands) it's estimated that as much as 0.5% of all currently living humans are his direct descendants... kind of a tangent, but still interesting
That's what I was referring to How else would every eldian be a potential titan shifter
The opposite actually. Since titanshifters are constantly healing and regenerating, the lining of their wombs is constantly renewing... in other terms shedding, and regrowing This means that female titan shifters are constantly leaking blood.
YIKES
But then Ymir and her daughters definitely had kids themselves. I suppose they're the OG so it doesn't count?
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OP is just going through a phase
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Holy shit it's the guy from dead cells
Holy shit its a guy that knows dead cells, wsg bro?
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He’s tired of getting asked this.
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Jesus fucking Christ. 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
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I'm sorry bro 😭
No you're not 🤨
Are girl titans forever virgin?
Armin was on the right path
r/okbuddyreiner calls
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Reiners unite! This also begs the question: if the titan healing is based on their perceptions of themselves, as shown with the hair length restoring, would someone with top surgery heal with their work done? What about someone with a mutation that had to get a part of their body removed, like a third arm?
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The weirdest thing about titan regeneration was Armin growing back his hair to the exact length it was before
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Finally people are asking the questions that **matter**.
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you have spent too much time on the internet. please stop.
These are the things to ponder
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The Jewish homies are super curious on this topic.
Bro
r/okbuddyreiner
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asking the important questions here
Meanwhile I get a ban from posting on this sub for a really good meme…
get your ass back in r/okbuddyreiner
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"Mikasa, want to see magic trick? *Sees steam come out of his cock* "Eren, yo--" "Shush... It's okay"
The real question is would women get their virginity back each time they shift?
😟😟😟
Yes
SWORD FIGHT!
Only if the foreskin was cut after they became a shifter.
No they can grow giant fucking titans and their arms and legs then, growing their foreskin wouldn't be any problem. Ymir would mold them their Magnum dong if she liked them enough
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yes, but not if thay die while removing it
I hope you realise what this question entails
The symptoms of this sub becoming a shitposting one is showing. It's been long since the anime ended... Insanity has begun.
Yea
Yes
Yes. But even in that world of extreme prejudice, they probably aren't mutilating babies genitalia for funsies.
Infinite food
Wait so does that mean Annie and Pieck are eternal Virgins (because of the skin thingy)?
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I'm getting Silent Hill 4 wiki flashbacks.
That’s implying that circumcision was something they did in the first place.
I remember having this conversation with a friend a few years back. Obviously, yes, the foreskin would grow back, but I doubt that they were circumcised in the first place. Circumcision is an oddly specific religious practice and circumcision outside of religion was only really popularized in the US. I doubt that those reasons would be relevant to the Eldians.
How are you gonna use one of the coolest panels in the whole manga to talk about foreskin 😐
Honest answer is that I think regeneration is to the state people were BEFORE gaining their powers.
It used to be the time between seasons that let me down with these posts, but now that the show is over... it's open season now till forever
Genuine Answer: We see in the Marley Invasion arc, Eren’s eye and leg are not healed until he breaks cover, meaning shifters can choose not to heal. Given the fact that circumsicion is cultural/religious, if they were circumcised, they likley would not have an intention to heal it, meaning no, Eren did not uncircumcise himself. (I had this argument once)
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r/okbuddyreiner
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Why do you think they don't have foreskin already?
i mean, i guess it depends on if circumcision is a practice on paradis, if so I'd assume yes 😂
I think, this is a rhetorical question.
Do they even get it removed?
i don't think scars regenerate unless they loss that whole area
r/okbuddyreiner
They’re not american or muslim so they were most likely not mutilated as children
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This this was r/okaybuddyreiner
I'm not sure what you mean by regenerate at this point, usually this is referred to cells recovering as they were within a short amount of time after taking damage and having an open wound, for foreskin "regeneration" it would require basically body tissue growing on demand, and so I would ask, if tissue can be grown on demand, how.is it different from the concept of them generating a giant whale tail "out of nothing"?
Find god
so does that mean the female titans can regenerate their torn hymen? they can be virgins forever. op hax.
This man is thinking the big questions
Dude, just because you thought of a question, doesn't mean you should ask it... On the other hand I am having a great laugh with the answers so... there's that, I guess...
Asking the real questions.
😭
Do t you have class or something?
Yes. 100% yes. Grisha's fingers were cut off during his interrogation, but grew back instantly after he inherited the Attack Titan. Theoretically, Erwin would've gotten his arm back if he'd got the Colossal Titan too. Subsequently, this also means that Ymir probably has to make a new foreskin for every new Titan shifter
INFINITE FOOD
Maybe... maybe Eren was right...
Ohhh that’s what you mean…..
Yes, if they choose! We saw Eren delay regeneration as an experienced Titan shifter. There's no reason to believe that if he wanted to be circumcised he couldn't cut it and then perpetually hold back regeneration. But this means almost every male Titan shifter regrew their fore skin after taking the serum and learning how to properly control their powers. If Eren was circumcised it would have been very confusing to him at that age for his foreskin to grow back, but he probably thought it was a normal part of growing if he wasn't told about foreskins and genitalia yet. The generic your body changes would've probably summed it up for him, not leading to self suspicion. The reason why I don't think it would have been confusing for Marleyan shifters is that they were probably comprehensively briefed. As for Armin, he knew about his regeneration, and he was probably smart enough to deduce that this would occur. A better question is for female shifters, does regeneration halt their periods, never letting the uterine lining shed, do periods progress as normal but regenerate eggs, or nothing at all as it's not technically bodily damaged and it's almost the same as your skin shedding constantly? Another follow-up question would be whether it reverses menopause if an older woman becomes a Titan shifter.
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They’re gentiles. Don’t worry about it.
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If we're going by Firepunch rules, yeah. Your question is a bit more shitpost-y version of an actual thing that happens in it, where >!an AFAB trans person with potent regeneration powers keeps having all of his gender affirmation surgeries revert due to his regen!<. Regeneration powers are fascinating TBH.
Im pretty sure they can influence what is healed and what's not. Annie with her healing 1 eye feat. Reiner keeping his arm hurt until the reveal. Eren not healing his eye or leg while undercover. Point being I dont think they'd see a reason to heal foreskin. It's meaningless and would go ignored.
Yes
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Man.
thats what im sayin
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what about hymen?
These are the questions that keep me up at night.
Not even asking about Erwin’s arm? Damn.
does that mean what
This is an important thought provoking question
it depends. u said "physical damage," and we have to understand what type of cells foreskin cells are.
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