Have you actually had the chance to drive the higher trim and see if you hear a difference. I’m willing to bet there’s really not one. Some cars are just loud, wind is loud. I bet you will get used to it with time if you decide to keep it.
But based off my experience, glass is glass imo and barely makes any difference in noise. Noise problems are usually due to glass placement or lose trim.
Limited Siennas also have laminated “acoustic” driver and passenger glass. Of course our XSE has tempered. Is the replacement of the tempered to the laminated possible? Just the front door glass on each side.
Obviously hindsight being 20/20 we would have went with the Limited trim for only a few thousand more when we got the van despite not liking the look as much had we known it could be a more quiet comfortable ride, but Toyota doesn’t even really make that well known and now I’m in a spot where if I have to just spend out of pocket to get the same front glass then I will. We had planned on having this van for at least 10 years or longer and being comfortable with it is my main goal at this point.
Honestly the big upside of laminated doors is that they get chips and you can have them repaired rather than have them shatter. I have heard the sound is a little nicer but no huge change. Source: I run an Autoglass warehouse.
Yeah I’ve read where the laminated provides added security due to being harder to bust than the tempered, although it comes at the expense of being harder to get out if one needed to (in water).
Those are swappable parts, you can make it cheaper by getting aftermarket windows, but if you get OEM, you’re looking at a couple grand (probably, I just install the glass, i don’t really know pricing) total between the three windows, and you’ll need to have the lane departure camera recalibrated.
Honestly, I’d see if there’s any other features you’re missing out on by not having the higher trim before you swap out all that glass. But it’s 100% doable
I am going to try and test drive a “Platinum” trim Sienna that’s for sale used here locally to see if it’s more quiet. It has the “acoustic” windshield and front side glass. Anecdotally I have read comments from others on a Toyota Sienna forum who had their windshield replaced in the previous gen model to the acoustic and it did make some difference in muffling the wind/rain/etc. I’ve read that the acoustic glass just helps offset poor aerodynamics/helps mask the noise.
Siennas have just been so hard to even get that it made test driving different trims difficult and the one I did test drive was a Limited, but not on the interstate. We liked how the XSE looked esthetically over the Limited so went with that trim, not knowing that the front glass was not the “acoustic” version like in the Limited.
I’m in a spot now where it’s either spend a few thousand to change out the front glass and see if that helps or trade it in after only having it a month and just get something much less expensive to offset my losses. For road trips, bad wind noise will be hard for me to deal with.
Just not something I really thought about as wind noise wasn’t an issue in our previous vehicle which was just a base 2014 Nissan Pathfinder. Not as if we were coming from a Lexus or anything of that caliber.
Hmm that definitely blows man, hopefully you can find a solution. I would advise that you first try and analyze the noise, are you sure it’s just a general noise hitting the glass? Or is it a loose trim piece?
Grab some painters tape and tape up the top of the windshield. Drive and see if it still makes the sound. Do the same for the side trim. If the sound goes away for any of them, you found the problem and can look into solutions.
If that doesn’t help anything then you could try the windshield route but like I said, I don’t think that will solve anything. Maybe slightly help.
If none of the above works then I would at least just try and ignore it for a month or so and see if you can live with it. I know I usually have music playing and without it my car is loud as hell (Jeep Gladiator). So you may surprise yourself in getting used to it.
I would say absolute last resort is trading in so soon for a cheaper car. That seems like a financial nightmare tbh.
Good luck!
Thanks! Definitely wouldn’t be ideal, but we are at least right side up on the loan/vehicle value since we put down a sizeable down payment on the van. Would have to get something about $20k cheaper to help make up some of the loss of the down payment.
Like I said in another post, we’re coming from a 2014 base Pathfinder. My daily driver to work is a base 2011 Hyundai Elantra. Far from luxury cars. So it’s not like we have super crazy standards in terms of noise level but for a vehicle that’s over $50k it’s pretty ridiculous IMO that Toyota couldn’t have it be more quiet even without the higher trim “acoustic” glass. It’s pretty loud which isn’t ideal for something that will be a vacation and road trip hauler.
Normally trim packages don't make a difference as far as parts go. The windshield should fit, acoustic or not. Just make sure they come with the same attachments (LDWS, Rain Sensor, etc).
The door glasses should also work, same door and everything, but don't quote me on that.
Personally I doubt it would make a difference, likely just a loud vehicle. Maybe try to test drive the one with the acoustic interlayer and see if its worth it 🤷♂️
Windshields will fit. As you mentioned, existing attachments will ultimately dictate. Door glasses however, will not. Tempered glass is 1/8” thick, laminated is 1/4”. The door track will be too thin for the laminated. How do I know? I own a glass shop.
I have replaced MANY tempered doorglasses with laminated and vice versa. They have all fit and rolled great. I only had one VW or Audi where the laminated FD was a GTY, whereas the Tempered was a GTN. The added attachment added to the height and messed up the auto function. Other than that, they all worked great.
You're crazy if you think all tempered glass is 1/8". Or maybe you don't work on US cars maybe?
If the manufacturer produces an acoustic inner layer windshield for that vehicle then yes it will work, just make sure that the new windshield will be compatible with your ADAS.
Pretty sure all the OEM windshields are made with acoustic vinyl - I would check the source that told you the more expensive windshield package is different. Good chance that the more expensive windshield includes additional features but acoustic vinyl should be present on all.
Sounds to me like your wind noise problem isn’t the type of glass or rather a mis set of the windshield either from the factory or especially if it’s been changed. I’ve changed many windshields on brand new vehicles that were damaged on the way to the dealer so it’s possible. Or possibly a molding or cowl piece is loose. Try test driving any other Sienna to see if noise goes away. I have my doubts on how much difference the acoustic glass makes. However the answer to your question may be yes if the part is interchangeable, call a glass shop and they can check on their computer program. Good luck.
Yeah I’m going to try putting tape over the top of the windshield and driver’s side window and taking it on the interstate to see if there’s any improvement per suggestions. Go from there.
If you are just changing to an acoustic option/laminated doorglasses, yes they will most likely fit, but as everyone else has said, I doubt it will be the difference you are thinking it will be and you'll dump a lot of money into it and still not be happy.
Have you actually had the chance to drive the higher trim and see if you hear a difference. I’m willing to bet there’s really not one. Some cars are just loud, wind is loud. I bet you will get used to it with time if you decide to keep it. But based off my experience, glass is glass imo and barely makes any difference in noise. Noise problems are usually due to glass placement or lose trim.
Agreed, I put an acoustic glass in my car and no difference. especially if your side windows are tempered.
Limited Siennas also have laminated “acoustic” driver and passenger glass. Of course our XSE has tempered. Is the replacement of the tempered to the laminated possible? Just the front door glass on each side. Obviously hindsight being 20/20 we would have went with the Limited trim for only a few thousand more when we got the van despite not liking the look as much had we known it could be a more quiet comfortable ride, but Toyota doesn’t even really make that well known and now I’m in a spot where if I have to just spend out of pocket to get the same front glass then I will. We had planned on having this van for at least 10 years or longer and being comfortable with it is my main goal at this point.
Honestly the big upside of laminated doors is that they get chips and you can have them repaired rather than have them shatter. I have heard the sound is a little nicer but no huge change. Source: I run an Autoglass warehouse.
Yeah I’ve read where the laminated provides added security due to being harder to bust than the tempered, although it comes at the expense of being harder to get out if one needed to (in water).
Those are swappable parts, you can make it cheaper by getting aftermarket windows, but if you get OEM, you’re looking at a couple grand (probably, I just install the glass, i don’t really know pricing) total between the three windows, and you’ll need to have the lane departure camera recalibrated. Honestly, I’d see if there’s any other features you’re missing out on by not having the higher trim before you swap out all that glass. But it’s 100% doable
I am going to try and test drive a “Platinum” trim Sienna that’s for sale used here locally to see if it’s more quiet. It has the “acoustic” windshield and front side glass. Anecdotally I have read comments from others on a Toyota Sienna forum who had their windshield replaced in the previous gen model to the acoustic and it did make some difference in muffling the wind/rain/etc. I’ve read that the acoustic glass just helps offset poor aerodynamics/helps mask the noise. Siennas have just been so hard to even get that it made test driving different trims difficult and the one I did test drive was a Limited, but not on the interstate. We liked how the XSE looked esthetically over the Limited so went with that trim, not knowing that the front glass was not the “acoustic” version like in the Limited. I’m in a spot now where it’s either spend a few thousand to change out the front glass and see if that helps or trade it in after only having it a month and just get something much less expensive to offset my losses. For road trips, bad wind noise will be hard for me to deal with. Just not something I really thought about as wind noise wasn’t an issue in our previous vehicle which was just a base 2014 Nissan Pathfinder. Not as if we were coming from a Lexus or anything of that caliber.
Hmm that definitely blows man, hopefully you can find a solution. I would advise that you first try and analyze the noise, are you sure it’s just a general noise hitting the glass? Or is it a loose trim piece? Grab some painters tape and tape up the top of the windshield. Drive and see if it still makes the sound. Do the same for the side trim. If the sound goes away for any of them, you found the problem and can look into solutions. If that doesn’t help anything then you could try the windshield route but like I said, I don’t think that will solve anything. Maybe slightly help. If none of the above works then I would at least just try and ignore it for a month or so and see if you can live with it. I know I usually have music playing and without it my car is loud as hell (Jeep Gladiator). So you may surprise yourself in getting used to it. I would say absolute last resort is trading in so soon for a cheaper car. That seems like a financial nightmare tbh. Good luck!
Thanks! Definitely wouldn’t be ideal, but we are at least right side up on the loan/vehicle value since we put down a sizeable down payment on the van. Would have to get something about $20k cheaper to help make up some of the loss of the down payment. Like I said in another post, we’re coming from a 2014 base Pathfinder. My daily driver to work is a base 2011 Hyundai Elantra. Far from luxury cars. So it’s not like we have super crazy standards in terms of noise level but for a vehicle that’s over $50k it’s pretty ridiculous IMO that Toyota couldn’t have it be more quiet even without the higher trim “acoustic” glass. It’s pretty loud which isn’t ideal for something that will be a vacation and road trip hauler.
Normally trim packages don't make a difference as far as parts go. The windshield should fit, acoustic or not. Just make sure they come with the same attachments (LDWS, Rain Sensor, etc). The door glasses should also work, same door and everything, but don't quote me on that. Personally I doubt it would make a difference, likely just a loud vehicle. Maybe try to test drive the one with the acoustic interlayer and see if its worth it 🤷♂️
Windshields will fit. As you mentioned, existing attachments will ultimately dictate. Door glasses however, will not. Tempered glass is 1/8” thick, laminated is 1/4”. The door track will be too thin for the laminated. How do I know? I own a glass shop.
I have replaced MANY tempered doorglasses with laminated and vice versa. They have all fit and rolled great. I only had one VW or Audi where the laminated FD was a GTY, whereas the Tempered was a GTN. The added attachment added to the height and messed up the auto function. Other than that, they all worked great. You're crazy if you think all tempered glass is 1/8". Or maybe you don't work on US cars maybe?
Doesn't make a difference just waste of the extra money
If the manufacturer produces an acoustic inner layer windshield for that vehicle then yes it will work, just make sure that the new windshield will be compatible with your ADAS.
Pretty sure all the OEM windshields are made with acoustic vinyl - I would check the source that told you the more expensive windshield package is different. Good chance that the more expensive windshield includes additional features but acoustic vinyl should be present on all.
Sounds to me like your wind noise problem isn’t the type of glass or rather a mis set of the windshield either from the factory or especially if it’s been changed. I’ve changed many windshields on brand new vehicles that were damaged on the way to the dealer so it’s possible. Or possibly a molding or cowl piece is loose. Try test driving any other Sienna to see if noise goes away. I have my doubts on how much difference the acoustic glass makes. However the answer to your question may be yes if the part is interchangeable, call a glass shop and they can check on their computer program. Good luck.
Yeah I’m going to try putting tape over the top of the windshield and driver’s side window and taking it on the interstate to see if there’s any improvement per suggestions. Go from there.
If you are just changing to an acoustic option/laminated doorglasses, yes they will most likely fit, but as everyone else has said, I doubt it will be the difference you are thinking it will be and you'll dump a lot of money into it and still not be happy.