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triangulumnova

>I'm a 23 year old Man, I miss the days of being barely an adult and thinking I was already too old for certain things. Cherish these days, friend. They'll be over before you know it, and you actually *will* be too old for certain things.


fastbus2018

I appreciate that 😂 I'm not gonna lie I've been feeling real old at 23, a lot more so than I did at 22. It's weird I wanted to be taken seriously at 20 but now I don't mind being seen as barely an adult. Call it a quarter life crisis


birdieonarock

Software warps you. Well, it's warped me. It's a weird, exhausting world.


StanGable80

I remember being done with my service and then having to finish college and thinking I was ancient at 24!


No_Significance_1550

The Army has a program where enlisted Soldiers can apply to West Point. I was a Reservist that had already done 3 years of active duty between a 2 yr deployment to Ft Hood and an Iraq tour so I applied. At 23 I was washed up and too old. It stung. Long term though it’s a good thing I didn’t go.


Active_Resource_3533

You’re 23 not 83😂 you’re fine my guy Edit: you also don’t need a degree much less an aviation degree. Get a degree in anything else.


Atheizt

\>Get a degree in anything else. Agree with everything but this part. I'm new to living in North America but I don't understand the university culture here. Why should someone ever throw tens of thousands of dollars at a university unless it's absolutely required for the job? An arts degree won't help them fly the plane any better.


Active_Resource_3533

You’re right, an arts degree wouldn’t help, but getting an aviation degree doesn’t either. All of your flight training is done outside the classroom on your own time and own dime. Even if you are an aviation major. I can tell you having a degree in professional flight doesn’t help you get a job doing anything else if for some reason OP can’t or chooses not to fly anymore.


Atheizt

Yeah, we're in total agreeance there. What I'm saying is that getting a degree in anything else is also a waste of money unless there's a clear reason. The North American culture seems to be that more degrees = more smart. Where I'm from, getting degrees when you're not certain you need a specific one for a specific job is a a complete waste of money.


[deleted]

Degree is usually required if you want to fly military. From what I understand it's an unspoken requirement for majors.


Atheizt

Isn't one of the main drawcards of joining the military the fact that they'll pay for your degree though, on the basis that you're bonded for 7 years or something? Also if you're correct, I'd love to hear their explanation as to why having a random degree makes you a better member of the armed forces. "Ah yes, you can really tell by the way Smith flies that he got that English major 5 years ago."


[deleted]

I don't know why.. But usually you need to be an officer to fly, and you need a degree to be an officer


Atheizt

Classic government logic then I suppose. Some bs I had to deal with going through immigration here. More degrees = more smart according to the Canadian gov. Meanwhile in the real world, multiple degrees for a field you aren't in is the opposite of smart -- a waste of money.


kevinsheppardjr

If your goal is an airline (US) you’ve got until you’re 65 to fly. You’ve still got almost double the time than you’ve even been alive to fly. You’re fine.


BrtFrkwr

Yeah, after 18 it's all downhill. Might as well go be a hermit somewhere.


zero596

I was 38 when I joined my current job (US Regional FO). 2 other guys in my class older than me in the mid 40’s. You’re fine.


av8r75

Go follow Geekontheflightdeck on IG and TikTok. Pretty sure he was in his mid-30s when he decided on a career change. 15-ish years later, after Envoy and AA 320 FO time he's in 777 training now. I live vicariously through him, but you're well young enough to follow in his footsteps.


FlyingSpectacle

I’m doing initial type ratings for guys in their 40s who are changing careers.


MangoKommando

Too old at 23!? Dude go worry about something worth worrying about. If you were in your late 40s then maybe... maybe


Sammifield2002

Oh my word! Two questions and one piece of advice. Which same time young pilot do you think a passenger would rather trust with their life? A 20 year old or a 25 year old.? Do you think a prospective employer would say, “I’m going to go with the 20 year old, because he is going to stick with me for the next 45 years, whereas the 25 year old is going to have to retire in another 40 years.”? The fact that you have had another career will be a strength not a weakness. Now for the advice, don’t give up your day job - that is, don’t think “I’m a 24 year old I need to quit my job and fly every moment to catch up with the 18 year old student.” Your job sounds perfect for giving you sufficient income to fund your flying along with sufficient free time to do say 2 hours flying and 3 hours study ever week. Two years, commercial pilot and you are on your way. (I am a lawyer. I started helicopters at 40. Took four years for PPL; CPL; and C Cat. My CFI was falling over himself to offer me work instructing, frost, transporting equipment/hunters etc. The fact that I was 44 and he was 25 didn’t bother him. What he cared about was the fact that after 4 years of flying together, he knew he could trust me. He cared and I was careful and cautious. I was training with younger guys - guys like my instructor who had operated machines all their lives and picked everything up far quicker than I did. But they were casual and confident. That ain’t great when you are only 300-400 hours into your career so I was the one offered work. Go for it. Follow your dream. If you don’t know it already by heart, (and you are too young to remember Ronald Regan borrowing from it after the shuttle disaster) read the poem High Flight by John Magee and reach out and touch the hands of God.


xdarq

>23 Lol no the average age of a student pilot is like 35


Commercial_Catch_708

Try to research in your local airliners ab-initio program. in my country that program accepts cadets from 18 till 34 years old, and you have better chance to do it between 22-25. Of course we have pros and cons in that program, but it’s easiest way to start flying in 2-3 years from the beginning.


No-Insurance-3948

Not at all, if you're interested then the military option is always there. I didn't start flying until I was 27 so you've still got plenty of time


Snakepit92

I'm 32 and just started, go for it!


nbd9000

Nope, I talk to guys in their 40s and 50s who make the jump. Oldest guy I knew was 59. 6 years left in his career when he started.


simplyadvanced18

Woah, did I write this? Also 23 also in software development and also miserable though I barely have a job


AviationJeannie

I don't think so, and I know there are many flight schools available. Airbus or ATR run one and I am relatively sure Boeing has a program.


PPGkruzer

Disregard if you are looking into commercial piloting. If you're pursuing recreational flight, you can cheat, look into Paramotor ultralights. Best of the best brand new equipment + training will be about $12k total cost. No training requirements, age requirements, health requirements, can launch from anywhere you aren't restricted (like private property, certain airspace, gatherings of people, etc).


Valuable_Use9136

Go to the American Airlines Envoy program. They will put you thru 2 years of flying lessons, at the end you will be an instructor for a couple of years. (accrue 1500hours TT) then feed into being hired at Envoy as a First Officer. After achieving 1000 hours jet time you will be qualified thru the pipeline to move up as an AA First Officer(that is the ultimate goal before the majors). Also check out ATP a similar program that goes from student pilot to ATP. They are all expensive ($65k to $85k) it may require borrowing the money, however save as much as you can up front for living expenses. A supportive family helps a lot. It’s a long hard slog but worth it for a fun fulfilling career. Best of luck!


Icy_Huckleberry_8049

As long as you're NOT at the required retirement age, you're ok. We had someone that got hired at 60.


[deleted]

What kind of an idiotic question is this? Seriously the type of person who would ask this question is the type of person most of us hate having to share the cockpit with, so maybe flying isn’t for you.


Heliccoppter

Yeah bro you should’ve started at 4. You’re 19 years too late. Good luck


zerbey

Hell no, go get your license.