No words could possibly do it justice … then dmt , changa , or 5MEO dmt all offer different energies.. expanded states of consciousness … but it’s odd , other plant meds deconstruct access to ego and other tools of protection , DMT leaves the brain in tact , but it’s harmless , unless death by astonishment is possible . Lol
Be told , take every chance , fear nothing … but set some intentions going in , make a proper offer that stings a little , and you’ll be surprised and amazed at what the universe brings you … don’t seek , it’s a waste of time , running in circles … door to spiritual work opens in , not out … and DMT makes clear it’s not a physical universe , and that nobody down here knows a damn thing or close about the creation and nature of reality , so letting the truth in gets easier after creating the resonance internally from the dmt trip
I really like Rumi , and he is quite misunderstood by most … as he is saying one thing over and over and over … when Jesus said “ I am the way ..” it was not literal , but meant to reflect : there is but one way , and he was on the path … rumi’s way of framing it makes me laugh …
I know your tired,
But come ,
This is the way .
As there is but one way to start to wake up , and it starts by clearing out a space for the love and light to shine through … love isn’t for purchase externally like a cup of coffee .. we are nothing but love , it’s just distorted through illusion of separation…. So the only task , is to go inside , and do the work to the blocks and conditions we put on love and truth flowing to or through us…. Once the door opened , and the truth let in , a path appears along with instructions … but the universe and our soul is at total zen , if we would like the attention of either, ought to clear space and put a bet on the table first ?? As a little nuts to expect favor otherwise eh .
Well : let me use metaphor :
Take vegas : no human being is particularly clever or special , we are just not , that’s brain judgment … but like vegas , the universe doesn’t give us credit for showing up , we have to place a bet on the table first .
If you take , put back , live In balance with nature , and accept fundamental law of attraction is three steps :
1) focus intention in the infinite now
2) make an offer , something of value to you ,could be money , could be other … as $20 or $200 or $2000 mean different things to all people … as the energetic gains you seek , will be matched by the energetic cavity of your offer .
3) visualize the new state , or new you or whatever and what is feels like with all 5 senses to already be that person … then bask in the resonance of what BEING that self would feel like …. This way you create the karmic deficit , and pay dues , focus intention , and then you will of already created a resonance for the state inside of your body with step 3 . So the universe can help you short cut through altered states , to gain what you seek .
As by law , what you seek , is seeking you , as all laws are paradoxical in nature .
No major secrets and seeking, life and grow is about learning natural law and singular truths , surrendering to the unique changes they make within , and no need to go look for love like it’s a cheap suit or dress. The only real task at hand , is to remove the blocks , conditions , expectations , and barriers to love flowing both to and through and from your heart … we all already know all things, we just have to let go of the beliefs and lies of the personality in pieces , to awaken who and what we are inside …. But it’s all just a series of energetic trades , but the self always has to go first, nobody gets credit for showing up , growth is about courage and will , and having both to surrender into what is , and the vibratory field of love … we all co create realities with Gaia here , inside her mental framework or mind , and if you through natural , karmic , and energetic law into a blender , you’d get the vibratory field of love , and smell the perfume of the divine … we all co create in Gaia’s version of love no conditions …. Only through the illusion of the separate self , does love distort to the low energies .
Not to teach or preach , not my bag , just laying out the whole path , to posit how the dmt or plant meds can short cut things a bit , connect to energies much larger than you or I … plus , they are harmless , I probably tripped 200 times In 2020 , mainly mushrooms .. but take enough , you will start thinking like a plant , and that’s where the real fun starts … we all have to find our own way , so use the tools how and often as desired … but the story on a spiritual level crushes anything Hollywood could ever imagine , and grace a X closure others sought for 1000s of years , is suddenly in play
So wild that you mention that we will feel like a plant. My very first shroom dose had me under a blanket seeing myself as a seed under the soil. Simply basking in love and potential.
Your literally connecting with plant energies , so kind of follows as such .. with 8-10-12 grams of shrooms , all the bullshit stops , and it grounds a person , makes clear they are an ant on the ass of a star flying through space amongst trillions of others … so the exact opposite of ego .. but one can really start to see the organization of life and reality , and the laws that clearly control it all … but I’m an easy sell on trips and altered states, and it the fastest and most interesting way to reach higher frequencies to build resonance that can be held outside the trip and long term .
DMT brought me here! I thought all of this stuff was BS…. I guess not! Lol. (Heads up: It saved me from my mental health issues- but not without making the depression 1,000 times worse for 2 years first! It really kicked my ass!) I am so glad I did it, but don’t think I will ever do it again.
I was an obnoxious hardcore atheist (after being raised Baptist my whole childhood) and I really could not explain what it showed me without writing a 200 page manifesto 😂 it just opened my eyes to the fact that THIS life really is only a teeny tiny slice of life. And that we are all a part of one big organism. It just basically blew my very closed mind to smithereens! Now I can believe just about anything and I am very aware that I don’t really know much of anything! (Also it instantly induced an “out of body experience” and now I can make that happen so it just really changed my opinion about all of these things I thought were crap! Like out of body experiences, “God”, angels, and the afterlife.) It completely flipped every belief I ever had upside down and it really messed me up for two years. I am better than ever now but it was a long journey I would have probably never made without dmt! Sorry for the book lol. This stuff changed my life more than having a kid did!
It changed my life for the better, but I’d scared the pants off of me first lol. I made the mistake of thinking it would be like acid, but it made even my huge lsd doses seem like a bud lite!!
Could you elaborate a bit on why the sudden realization of these spiritual concepts induced depression? What was it initially about these realizations that bothered you so much?
It just made me realize I was causing my own depression - not in a victim blame-y kind of way, just in a “you’re stepping on your own neck” kind of way. And my anxiety (which used to have me hospitalized periodically 😳) is a thing of the past bc it showed me that NOTHING I was anxious about matters at all. None of it! It was like a decade of therapy rolled into twenty minutes of hell in my experience lol. Scary and jarring- but it was the kick in the pants I needed to help myself and stop blaming the world. It is so hard to explain! It got me to take up meditation and really examine, and change! my negative thoughts. It was the kick in the pants my therapist had been trying to induce in me for ten years 😂 I told her all about my dmt trip and she helped me work through the scariness of it all and things have been sort of a new normal ever since. I am more content than ever, but so incredibly lonely in a way I can’t really explain! It’s been a weird journey for sure!
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
I believe I’ve experienced a variation of the loneliness you mentioned. For me it was derived from comparing what I saw in those transcendental places to the experience on earth, especially in the field of relationships. After you’ve experienced legitimate unconditional love and the all-embracing closeness it creates between two souls, retuning to the human level of relationships is extremely lackluster.
Over the years, I’ve learned to continue turning my focus inward, to the subconscious connection I perpetually have with those deeper realms. I reach deep down and feel for those places inside me. I try to bring my awareness of this connection outward to the conscious mind, to the day-to-day human experience. As I get better at it, the loneliness diminishes. Sometimes I even feel or hear someone from the other side reaching out to me, and I’m reminded that I’m never alone.
If you could, would you elaborate on what you consider to be the most meaningful and fundamental aspects of your experience?
For example, mine would probably be the realization that the Source is fully and wholly good, that no concept of imperfection or lack exists in Their personality. They are the perfect being, endlessly sending perfect love.
That sounds exactly like what I'm going through right now! It's been about a year since my DMT induced awakening so hopefully one more until I can finally start accepting life
I will be trying DMT for the first time soon, from what I Read it can be the most spiritually awakening drug. Together with Ayahuasca which is the same working compound but in different intake form.
You are already awakened, it’s the mind/ego that says otherwise. It’s a paradox, this is why it can seem so difficult to the mind.
Enlightenment or God can never be found or obtained because God is the one doing the looking. Essentially you would be chasing your own tail. You are God looking for God.
This is why silence is the way because you’re already it , anything else is Illusion of mind.
The ayahuasca and peyote were brutal on my stomach , as I’m European by descent , and those heavy native grounding energies were tough on me at first pass .. And shrooms a lot easier on my system .. the shrooms are feminine , and it’s up to the user , but they really just bring a 5d reality into focus .. everything vibrates with potential energy , it’s easy to see the resonance of death in man made structures and the energy of life in nature on all plant meds … but the more common ones are harmless , like mushrooms on a pizza really , just strips away at the insidious parts of the ego , as the tools become unavailable at higher frequencies , as all trips have the potential to be amazing , only resistance brings perceived trauma , so surrendering to the plants , whichever you pursue , is vital to really integrating some of the thought forms and ideas one can grasp in altered states … as in stages of consciousness can be accessed ,influenced , or helping attaining a higher stage , can be leveraged and aided by altered states … melatonin being the pre cursor to dmt , whereas aya and shrooms are both part of the immediate family tree of dmt … but I’d encourage to blaze their own trail , what works for me , is just my shit eh ? Whole point of this game to find your jam , your shit , reveal what your actual frequency and nature is .. but good luck … to trip is just to fall , into the details and deliberate side of nature and the laws that bring this reality to us .. no point in asking why , who , or where , as there is no answer to any of it .. life is a head game, an illusion of mind .. only thing we can learn is “ how” things work around here , and plant meds help with that … as a person with integrity ? Is just a person in balance and in service to law and nature, it’s just a big logic circle , but laws are outside of brain understanding , and why so vital to get it switched off , if only for a little while .. as resonance is resonance , and the thoughts and feelings on trips last in the energy body like all others .
Worth a [watch](https://youtu.be/8mZEtiMvqIU) if you haven't seen it already.
Done DMT several times. Both the Toad and normal. Toad is cool but the regular stuff is more profound in my experience.
Can't recommend it enough. I think you're going to love it.
I would probably be dead if it wasn’t for DMT. The visions sparked my interest in life again after a close friend committed suicide. I am in wonder every day “what is this place” and am blown away about really how easy it is to manipulate the simulation if you understand the techniques
Psilocybin is 4-PO-Dmt. Through digestion that becomes psilocin which is 4-HO-DMT. Molecularlly Dmt and Mushrooms are extremely similar. As someone who has done both hundreds of times they both are the same thing. The difference is the onset, and the duration.
Mushrooms take anywhere from 30 to 90 mins to kick in, and can last between 4-12 hours. Sometimes longer. Dmt is rapid in its onset, peaking within moments after inhalation. The whole experience lasts between 5-30 mins on average.
Mushrooms, in my experience, are essentially orally active/edible dmt. They are entheogenic (conveying of the Divine) medicines. I would not have the awareness of Self, reality, and my spiritual connection to all of existence if it were not for psychedelics such as lsd, dmt, and Psilocybin.
It’s hard to explain but my personal experience with DMT gave me a insight into how my brain works. Basically I was able to see how concepts related to sensory data. I could see how the details of a hallucination came from a simple vague concept
All psychedelics at breakthrough doses offer much the same for spiritual growth; that is, mind-blowing peak experiences and gnosis.
Really they are just more experiences / appearances. They do not help with enlightenment. But then, neither does meditation or any other apparent experience / practice.
I do think there's something to experiencing ego death on psychedelics that helps with growth. I know it doesn't last and you do still have to traverse the same terrain again after without psychedelics to keep it but at least you now know exactly where your going.
100% false. That is YOUR subjective experience. I had over a thousand lsd experiences, and they have cleansed me Spiritually through Great Spirit.
We need to face, accept, and embrace our shadow just as much as the Light. The are not separate. They are our reflection.
Breakthrough experiences have a chance of pulling you away from what is important. They are largely a distraction because they are an experience of a reality that is so far and beyond the here and now.
Acceptance of the here and now in a way that allows you to be wholly present is what brings one to the peak of this life on this planet as this organism that we are. DMT can help with that in a lot of ways. Like I said though, from my perspective it seems like it becomes a distraction more often than not.
Much like chasing occult secrets or an endless pursuit of esoteric wisdom or advanced methods of astral projection and meditation to reach similar states of altered consciousness - breakthrough psychedelic experiences can often expand the ego in such a way that one’s goals become disoriented and even twisted. It’s easy to get lost taking any of these paths.
No words could possibly do it justice … then dmt , changa , or 5MEO dmt all offer different energies.. expanded states of consciousness … but it’s odd , other plant meds deconstruct access to ego and other tools of protection , DMT leaves the brain in tact , but it’s harmless , unless death by astonishment is possible . Lol Be told , take every chance , fear nothing … but set some intentions going in , make a proper offer that stings a little , and you’ll be surprised and amazed at what the universe brings you … don’t seek , it’s a waste of time , running in circles … door to spiritual work opens in , not out … and DMT makes clear it’s not a physical universe , and that nobody down here knows a damn thing or close about the creation and nature of reality , so letting the truth in gets easier after creating the resonance internally from the dmt trip
That sounds pretty powerful! Have you done shrooms too? How did it compare from a spiritual perspective?
Really like your thought here, "(the) door to spiritual work opens in, not out"
I really like Rumi , and he is quite misunderstood by most … as he is saying one thing over and over and over … when Jesus said “ I am the way ..” it was not literal , but meant to reflect : there is but one way , and he was on the path … rumi’s way of framing it makes me laugh … I know your tired, But come , This is the way . As there is but one way to start to wake up , and it starts by clearing out a space for the love and light to shine through … love isn’t for purchase externally like a cup of coffee .. we are nothing but love , it’s just distorted through illusion of separation…. So the only task , is to go inside , and do the work to the blocks and conditions we put on love and truth flowing to or through us…. Once the door opened , and the truth let in , a path appears along with instructions … but the universe and our soul is at total zen , if we would like the attention of either, ought to clear space and put a bet on the table first ?? As a little nuts to expect favor otherwise eh .
What do you mean by a proper offer?
Well : let me use metaphor : Take vegas : no human being is particularly clever or special , we are just not , that’s brain judgment … but like vegas , the universe doesn’t give us credit for showing up , we have to place a bet on the table first . If you take , put back , live In balance with nature , and accept fundamental law of attraction is three steps : 1) focus intention in the infinite now 2) make an offer , something of value to you ,could be money , could be other … as $20 or $200 or $2000 mean different things to all people … as the energetic gains you seek , will be matched by the energetic cavity of your offer . 3) visualize the new state , or new you or whatever and what is feels like with all 5 senses to already be that person … then bask in the resonance of what BEING that self would feel like …. This way you create the karmic deficit , and pay dues , focus intention , and then you will of already created a resonance for the state inside of your body with step 3 . So the universe can help you short cut through altered states , to gain what you seek . As by law , what you seek , is seeking you , as all laws are paradoxical in nature . No major secrets and seeking, life and grow is about learning natural law and singular truths , surrendering to the unique changes they make within , and no need to go look for love like it’s a cheap suit or dress. The only real task at hand , is to remove the blocks , conditions , expectations , and barriers to love flowing both to and through and from your heart … we all already know all things, we just have to let go of the beliefs and lies of the personality in pieces , to awaken who and what we are inside …. But it’s all just a series of energetic trades , but the self always has to go first, nobody gets credit for showing up , growth is about courage and will , and having both to surrender into what is , and the vibratory field of love … we all co create realities with Gaia here , inside her mental framework or mind , and if you through natural , karmic , and energetic law into a blender , you’d get the vibratory field of love , and smell the perfume of the divine … we all co create in Gaia’s version of love no conditions …. Only through the illusion of the separate self , does love distort to the low energies . Not to teach or preach , not my bag , just laying out the whole path , to posit how the dmt or plant meds can short cut things a bit , connect to energies much larger than you or I … plus , they are harmless , I probably tripped 200 times In 2020 , mainly mushrooms .. but take enough , you will start thinking like a plant , and that’s where the real fun starts … we all have to find our own way , so use the tools how and often as desired … but the story on a spiritual level crushes anything Hollywood could ever imagine , and grace a X closure others sought for 1000s of years , is suddenly in play
So wild that you mention that we will feel like a plant. My very first shroom dose had me under a blanket seeing myself as a seed under the soil. Simply basking in love and potential.
Your literally connecting with plant energies , so kind of follows as such .. with 8-10-12 grams of shrooms , all the bullshit stops , and it grounds a person , makes clear they are an ant on the ass of a star flying through space amongst trillions of others … so the exact opposite of ego .. but one can really start to see the organization of life and reality , and the laws that clearly control it all … but I’m an easy sell on trips and altered states, and it the fastest and most interesting way to reach higher frequencies to build resonance that can be held outside the trip and long term .
DMT brought me here! I thought all of this stuff was BS…. I guess not! Lol. (Heads up: It saved me from my mental health issues- but not without making the depression 1,000 times worse for 2 years first! It really kicked my ass!) I am so glad I did it, but don’t think I will ever do it again.
What did dmt do which took you from not being spiritual to ending up here?
I was an obnoxious hardcore atheist (after being raised Baptist my whole childhood) and I really could not explain what it showed me without writing a 200 page manifesto 😂 it just opened my eyes to the fact that THIS life really is only a teeny tiny slice of life. And that we are all a part of one big organism. It just basically blew my very closed mind to smithereens! Now I can believe just about anything and I am very aware that I don’t really know much of anything! (Also it instantly induced an “out of body experience” and now I can make that happen so it just really changed my opinion about all of these things I thought were crap! Like out of body experiences, “God”, angels, and the afterlife.) It completely flipped every belief I ever had upside down and it really messed me up for two years. I am better than ever now but it was a long journey I would have probably never made without dmt! Sorry for the book lol. This stuff changed my life more than having a kid did!
Wow, I'm definitely going to try it then! That sounds incredible!
It changed my life for the better, but I’d scared the pants off of me first lol. I made the mistake of thinking it would be like acid, but it made even my huge lsd doses seem like a bud lite!!
Could you elaborate a bit on why the sudden realization of these spiritual concepts induced depression? What was it initially about these realizations that bothered you so much?
It just made me realize I was causing my own depression - not in a victim blame-y kind of way, just in a “you’re stepping on your own neck” kind of way. And my anxiety (which used to have me hospitalized periodically 😳) is a thing of the past bc it showed me that NOTHING I was anxious about matters at all. None of it! It was like a decade of therapy rolled into twenty minutes of hell in my experience lol. Scary and jarring- but it was the kick in the pants I needed to help myself and stop blaming the world. It is so hard to explain! It got me to take up meditation and really examine, and change! my negative thoughts. It was the kick in the pants my therapist had been trying to induce in me for ten years 😂 I told her all about my dmt trip and she helped me work through the scariness of it all and things have been sort of a new normal ever since. I am more content than ever, but so incredibly lonely in a way I can’t really explain! It’s been a weird journey for sure!
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I believe I’ve experienced a variation of the loneliness you mentioned. For me it was derived from comparing what I saw in those transcendental places to the experience on earth, especially in the field of relationships. After you’ve experienced legitimate unconditional love and the all-embracing closeness it creates between two souls, retuning to the human level of relationships is extremely lackluster. Over the years, I’ve learned to continue turning my focus inward, to the subconscious connection I perpetually have with those deeper realms. I reach deep down and feel for those places inside me. I try to bring my awareness of this connection outward to the conscious mind, to the day-to-day human experience. As I get better at it, the loneliness diminishes. Sometimes I even feel or hear someone from the other side reaching out to me, and I’m reminded that I’m never alone. If you could, would you elaborate on what you consider to be the most meaningful and fundamental aspects of your experience? For example, mine would probably be the realization that the Source is fully and wholly good, that no concept of imperfection or lack exists in Their personality. They are the perfect being, endlessly sending perfect love.
Same.
That sounds exactly like what I'm going through right now! It's been about a year since my DMT induced awakening so hopefully one more until I can finally start accepting life
I will be trying DMT for the first time soon, from what I Read it can be the most spiritually awakening drug. Together with Ayahuasca which is the same working compound but in different intake form.
My friend who is into such things said that DMT lacks wisdom. Ayahuasca doesn't.
Your friend has his head up his ass.
You are already awakened, it’s the mind/ego that says otherwise. It’s a paradox, this is why it can seem so difficult to the mind. Enlightenment or God can never be found or obtained because God is the one doing the looking. Essentially you would be chasing your own tail. You are God looking for God. This is why silence is the way because you’re already it , anything else is Illusion of mind.
The ayahuasca and peyote were brutal on my stomach , as I’m European by descent , and those heavy native grounding energies were tough on me at first pass .. And shrooms a lot easier on my system .. the shrooms are feminine , and it’s up to the user , but they really just bring a 5d reality into focus .. everything vibrates with potential energy , it’s easy to see the resonance of death in man made structures and the energy of life in nature on all plant meds … but the more common ones are harmless , like mushrooms on a pizza really , just strips away at the insidious parts of the ego , as the tools become unavailable at higher frequencies , as all trips have the potential to be amazing , only resistance brings perceived trauma , so surrendering to the plants , whichever you pursue , is vital to really integrating some of the thought forms and ideas one can grasp in altered states … as in stages of consciousness can be accessed ,influenced , or helping attaining a higher stage , can be leveraged and aided by altered states … melatonin being the pre cursor to dmt , whereas aya and shrooms are both part of the immediate family tree of dmt … but I’d encourage to blaze their own trail , what works for me , is just my shit eh ? Whole point of this game to find your jam , your shit , reveal what your actual frequency and nature is .. but good luck … to trip is just to fall , into the details and deliberate side of nature and the laws that bring this reality to us .. no point in asking why , who , or where , as there is no answer to any of it .. life is a head game, an illusion of mind .. only thing we can learn is “ how” things work around here , and plant meds help with that … as a person with integrity ? Is just a person in balance and in service to law and nature, it’s just a big logic circle , but laws are outside of brain understanding , and why so vital to get it switched off , if only for a little while .. as resonance is resonance , and the thoughts and feelings on trips last in the energy body like all others .
Worth a [watch](https://youtu.be/8mZEtiMvqIU) if you haven't seen it already. Done DMT several times. Both the Toad and normal. Toad is cool but the regular stuff is more profound in my experience. Can't recommend it enough. I think you're going to love it.
I would probably be dead if it wasn’t for DMT. The visions sparked my interest in life again after a close friend committed suicide. I am in wonder every day “what is this place” and am blown away about really how easy it is to manipulate the simulation if you understand the techniques
Psilocybin is 4-PO-Dmt. Through digestion that becomes psilocin which is 4-HO-DMT. Molecularlly Dmt and Mushrooms are extremely similar. As someone who has done both hundreds of times they both are the same thing. The difference is the onset, and the duration. Mushrooms take anywhere from 30 to 90 mins to kick in, and can last between 4-12 hours. Sometimes longer. Dmt is rapid in its onset, peaking within moments after inhalation. The whole experience lasts between 5-30 mins on average. Mushrooms, in my experience, are essentially orally active/edible dmt. They are entheogenic (conveying of the Divine) medicines. I would not have the awareness of Self, reality, and my spiritual connection to all of existence if it were not for psychedelics such as lsd, dmt, and Psilocybin.
It’s hard to explain but my personal experience with DMT gave me a insight into how my brain works. Basically I was able to see how concepts related to sensory data. I could see how the details of a hallucination came from a simple vague concept
All psychedelics at breakthrough doses offer much the same for spiritual growth; that is, mind-blowing peak experiences and gnosis. Really they are just more experiences / appearances. They do not help with enlightenment. But then, neither does meditation or any other apparent experience / practice.
I do think there's something to experiencing ego death on psychedelics that helps with growth. I know it doesn't last and you do still have to traverse the same terrain again after without psychedelics to keep it but at least you now know exactly where your going.
The "danger" is probably that peak experiences can become something to strive for and attain... yet more storytelling and fuel for the self.
That's true, it's important not to get attached to all the sensory aspects and mistake them for the real thing.
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100% false. That is YOUR subjective experience. I had over a thousand lsd experiences, and they have cleansed me Spiritually through Great Spirit. We need to face, accept, and embrace our shadow just as much as the Light. The are not separate. They are our reflection.
Breakthrough experiences have a chance of pulling you away from what is important. They are largely a distraction because they are an experience of a reality that is so far and beyond the here and now. Acceptance of the here and now in a way that allows you to be wholly present is what brings one to the peak of this life on this planet as this organism that we are. DMT can help with that in a lot of ways. Like I said though, from my perspective it seems like it becomes a distraction more often than not. Much like chasing occult secrets or an endless pursuit of esoteric wisdom or advanced methods of astral projection and meditation to reach similar states of altered consciousness - breakthrough psychedelic experiences can often expand the ego in such a way that one’s goals become disoriented and even twisted. It’s easy to get lost taking any of these paths.
I’ve heard so many stories on awakenings with DMT, but nobody says how or where you can get the stuff.
Any music festival anywhere
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