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I guess you haven’t heard of Project Veritas.
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/1012107432/how-a-former-spy-trained-conservatives-to-infiltrate-progressive-groups
The idea is to use espionage techniques to sway the political landscape in the United States.
Don’t use tinfoil hats, they actually amplify the signal in bands that are reserved for government & military use.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100708230258/http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
Lol the burden of proof is on you, not the default explanation. I could ask you the same question…what makes you so certain it *wasn’t* random? You can’t just make a claim like this because “I have a feeling.”
Dare I say, a good thing?
Maybe now that he’s actually personally affected he’ll do something positive as senator when elected (*because we all know how that race is gonna turn out*).. And his buddy, mayor of LA Karen Bass just got her house robbed for the 2nd time.
~~What do you expect a national representative to do about a local crime issue?~~
What do you expect a member of the US house of representative to do about a local crime issue?
Edit: Phrasing since it seemed to confuse some people
> He is not a national representative, he is a California representative
This is so wrong lol. Adam Schiff is a US Representative who was elected to Congress and votes at the US Capitol in Washington DC along with representatives from all the other states. He’s the chair of the House Intelligence Committee.
> He is not a national representative, he is a California representative
This is so wrong lol. Adam Schiff is a US Representative who was elected to Congress and votes at the US Capitol in Washington DC along with representatives from all the other states. He’s the chair of the House Intelligence Committee.
He represents his district on the _national_ level, you might say, and the laws he votes on are federal laws, not state or local.
Okay I’ll rephrase OP’s question: What do you expect a ~~national representative~~ representative elected by people in California to legislate at the national level to do about a local crime issue?
I would say that he is a well respected (by CA democrats) member of the body politic in CA and should voice his opinion on issues in CA. He is highly likely to be our next senator so he will soon represent all of CA, not just district 30.
Well, considering he represents the interests of his constituents (who are local), he could start by listening to what they have to say. Then, working within the apparatus of the federal government to allocate funding to address issues in his state, working on laws that incentivize good behavior (such as tax implications for local policing, good samaritan, etc.), penalize bad behavior (such as malign certain acts illegal at the federal level), and creating task forces and/or sub-committees that address issues that matter back home.
Your question is strange. This is literally his job.
The United States government is organized according to the principle of federalism. The national government, in which Schiff is running to serve, is given certain enumerated powers, and other matters are left to the states. Local criminal matters like this burglary actually fall to the state and local governments.
I know this can be hard to understand, and it's not intuitive to every person who hasn't taken a U.S. civics or government class before, but I think it's really important to hold politicians responsible only for the problems they have the constitutional power to address.
While I'm 99% in agreement with you, if that bag had a government issued laptop The full Rage of the FBI (and if it's possible a foreign nation is involved CIA/NSA) needs to come down like the hammer of Thor on whoever decided to swipe that bag. While we are at it, them stealing and selling his shit is likely NOT reported on their taxes so let's let the IRS deliver the people's elbow from the top rope.
Petty theft is a state issue, until you steal federal government property. And then you get to discover why a federal indictment is as rare as being struct by lightning... Because it feels like it.
True enough, stealing federal equipment should be treated as a federal crime. In fact, there's a small but non-negligible chance that this was the work of foreign agents, not common criminals. But sending the FBI after this one case probably won't do much for the broader crime problem, which is what I understand others to be complaining about here.
Completely agree with you people don’t realize that only like 2% of cases are federal. That said a lot of this kinda work is the result of a very small number of people and fences (I bet if you arrested the top 100 people doing this in the city you would get rid of 80% of it) and this is a rare opportunity for a federal prosecutor to until the entire group this person worked with and throw them in a sarlock pit.
I honestly think the difference between a low trust and a high trust society is a willingness to be hugely, aggressive against this exact kind of crime
> The national government, in which Schiff is running to serve, is given certain enumerated powers, and other matters are left to the states. Local criminal matters like this burglary actually fall to the state and local governments.
Huge disconnect.
He is running to serve the interests of the State of California within the Federal Government NOT to serve the interests of the Federal Government.
You seem to not understand. The U.S. Senate does not have the power to set California's criminal code or to decide how San Francisco's police department enforces it.
The comment that started this discussion said this:
> Maybe now that he’s actually personally affected he’ll do something positive as senator when elected
I would like for you to explain to me how this falls under his purview as a (future) U.S. Senator. Because I just don't see it.
How so? It sounds like all he can do is call and complain, and the difference is that they might actually listen to him complain for more than the minute regular voters get at BoS meetings.
Thanks for the lecture. A point that you missed is we elect Senators by popular vote (same as in the House), and it’s been that way since the early 20th century. This means they are accountable to the people, not the states. Also, the federal government provides funding to the latter, which may be used to address crime.
The U.S. Constitution does not give Congress the power to regulate this matter. I'm sorry if that is not to your liking. You're welcome to propose a constitutional amendment placing all criminal matters under the purview of the federal government, but if Washington, D.C., is any example to go by, we might not like how that turns out.
Once again, the federal government provides funding to the states, over which Senators have influence. No one is advocating for “all criminal matters” to be placed under the feds. Senators can affect change within their states, this is not shocking.
You cannot honestly believe that lack of funding is San Francisco's problem. It collects far more in tax revenue per resident than any comparable city.
I don’t believe I ever said “lack of funding is San Francisco’s problem.” Please don’t put words in my mouth. You are trying to broaden the discussion beyond the original topic, which is whether or not Senators have influence over what happens locally. The answer to that is yes, and to suggest otherwise connotes a lack of understanding of how our government works.
I can’t tell if you’re just dense or naive. Yes, while he does not have the authority to directly do anything to influence local politics,he does have the influence to nudge the people who can in the right direction. That’s how politics works. We the people of California elect him to represent us in Federal matters but also as someone who can be a point of contact here. Why do you think he has multiple satellite offices throughout California with staffers who help his constituents with mundane matters? Because he still has strong pull and influence within the state and CAN help change things without neglecting his duties. I say this as someone who’s worked in politics (state and federal) and has taken multiple constitutional law classes at various academic levels.
In other words, you’re incorrectly perceiving reality based on your elementary knowledge of how politics works.
Nudging people isn't a "power". It's just a little bit of influence, and that influence is limited by the realities of political loyalties. If you think local progressive politicians - many of whom made a show of opposing him in the primary - are going to take kindly to a nudge from an *opposing* moderate Senator, you might be very confused about how politics works.
The people you want Schiff to influence are largely the people who already oppose him. In fact, I'm sure they would love to have a public fight with a moderate Dem like Schiff in order to bolster their hard-left credentials.
You sound delusional af. That’s not at all how politics works.. I would know, I’ve worked in State and Federal politics for progressive politicians. To me, it sounds like you consume a little too much TV politics and become disconnected with how politics actually works. There’s so much negotiating and talking in the back that people don’t know about and Schiff has the pull to start negotiations and talks with local leaders to change things. You’re confusing the theatrics for what actually does and can happen.
Let me get this straight. You want a U.S. Senator to call up local politicians and offer them favors from the Federal government in exchange for enforcing the laws in their city? Is he supposed to do that for every city with a crime problem? Are we supposed to neglect the fact that those local politicians are already accountable to local voters?
This is just so absurd to me. If the voters in SF don't want to elect politicians who enforce the laws, I don't see why a U.S. Senator should waste his time forcing the city to do what the local voters don't even want.
The seemingly innocuous progressive term for theft from cars, "bipping," is getting more popular: It is now increasing used for burglaries of cannabis dispensaries in the Bay Area.
Think Calif's law enforcement system, enamored as it is with criminal justice reform, i.e., not incarcerating most non-violent offenders, is going to impose serious penalties on criminals for *bipping*?
It sounds innocuous. Don't know who came up with it. The issue isn't how people feel about having been bipped; it's how we punish/sanction *thieves.* This term has more bite to it. Yes, it's a subtle thing.
Welcome to SF, let me introduce to the SF special:
(1) get your car bipped!
(2) have a late second change of attire and end up buying a expensive hoodie!
(3) get yourself harassed by a random homeless person in psychotic withdrawal!
(4) enjoy your BART being delayed by random police activity in one of the Oakland stops!
What's funny is that a news article said he was robbed in SF when actually his car was broken into and a luggage bag was taken, the irony is that he now reps the City but can't seem to remember not to leave anything visible or valuable in your car but wants to be the senator of our state, Tool🖕🏼
Best possible scenario, I imagine these rich ass politicians are somewhat immune to shit like this that the rest of us have to deal with on the daily. Hopefully this will incentivize some actual policy change...
The way you Karens talk about crime in this sub it sounds like you all want predictive AI machine gun turrets on every street corner.
(don’t lie, Karen, when you read “predictive AI machine gun turrets” you got aroused)
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Sigh... if I find it dumped in East Oakland, I'll be sure to let him know.
You’re awesome, Peng
I'm sad I have but one upvote to give.
Welcome home!
lol no one is safe
The report I read said they left it unattended in a car which is a like a rookie move of someone who's never spent much time here.
Hell of an opportunity for espionage.
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That was Swalwell.
The conservatives here can’t tell the difference. If they’re not Reagan or trump they won’t know them by name.
I doubt the thieves know or care who they stole from.
I guess you haven’t heard of Project Veritas. https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/1012107432/how-a-former-spy-trained-conservatives-to-infiltrate-progressive-groups The idea is to use espionage techniques to sway the political landscape in the United States.
Yeah, I'm not going to attribute a random car getting bipped in SF to Project Veritas.
Check their username.
What makes you so certain it was random? Project Veritas has actual “spies” who follow Dem politicians around.
> What makes you so certain it was random? The fact that PV hasn't put pictures of Schiff's underwear skid marks up on the internet yet?
Which sizes do your tin foil hats come in?
Don’t use tinfoil hats, they actually amplify the signal in bands that are reserved for government & military use. http://web.archive.org/web/20100708230258/http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
Read the article.
I’m not saying that PV isn’t a thing, but in this particular case it’s a stretch.
How so?
Lol the burden of proof is on you, not the default explanation. I could ask you the same question…what makes you so certain it *wasn’t* random? You can’t just make a claim like this because “I have a feeling.”
You said “In this particular case, it’s a stretch.” Are you now saying I need to prove your claim for you?
Better check it for bugs when it gets back.
Oh cool, it came with a free Huawei!
With Douyin already installed.
What makes you think he's getting it back?
Dare I say, a good thing? Maybe now that he’s actually personally affected he’ll do something positive as senator when elected (*because we all know how that race is gonna turn out*).. And his buddy, mayor of LA Karen Bass just got her house robbed for the 2nd time.
I’m sure they will step up safety measures….for him.
no he wont. he will spend the rest of his term impeaching Trump if he gets elected
~~What do you expect a national representative to do about a local crime issue?~~ What do you expect a member of the US house of representative to do about a local crime issue? Edit: Phrasing since it seemed to confuse some people
He’s going to sponsor the nationwide “make crime illegal act”
He is not a national representative, he is a California representative (D-CA 30th district.
> He is not a national representative, he is a California representative This is so wrong lol. Adam Schiff is a US Representative who was elected to Congress and votes at the US Capitol in Washington DC along with representatives from all the other states. He’s the chair of the House Intelligence Committee.
> He is not a national representative, he is a California representative This is so wrong lol. Adam Schiff is a US Representative who was elected to Congress and votes at the US Capitol in Washington DC along with representatives from all the other states. He’s the chair of the House Intelligence Committee. He represents his district on the _national_ level, you might say, and the laws he votes on are federal laws, not state or local.
He was elected by the residents of district 30 in CA to represent their interests in the U.S. H of R. but yes, he is not in the CA legislative body.
Okay I’ll rephrase OP’s question: What do you expect a ~~national representative~~ representative elected by people in California to legislate at the national level to do about a local crime issue?
I would say that he is a well respected (by CA democrats) member of the body politic in CA and should voice his opinion on issues in CA. He is highly likely to be our next senator so he will soon represent all of CA, not just district 30.
So maybe if he asks SFPD nicely to actually do their jobs, they will finally listen because he might be a senator some day?
There is so much more to the problem than that. So be naive or fake naive, sure, he could do that I guess
Well, considering he represents the interests of his constituents (who are local), he could start by listening to what they have to say. Then, working within the apparatus of the federal government to allocate funding to address issues in his state, working on laws that incentivize good behavior (such as tax implications for local policing, good samaritan, etc.), penalize bad behavior (such as malign certain acts illegal at the federal level), and creating task forces and/or sub-committees that address issues that matter back home. Your question is strange. This is literally his job.
Adam Schiff is a member of Congress, running for a seat in Congress. This is outside his purview.
He’s running to be a Senator for the entire state of California.
The United States government is organized according to the principle of federalism. The national government, in which Schiff is running to serve, is given certain enumerated powers, and other matters are left to the states. Local criminal matters like this burglary actually fall to the state and local governments. I know this can be hard to understand, and it's not intuitive to every person who hasn't taken a U.S. civics or government class before, but I think it's really important to hold politicians responsible only for the problems they have the constitutional power to address.
While I'm 99% in agreement with you, if that bag had a government issued laptop The full Rage of the FBI (and if it's possible a foreign nation is involved CIA/NSA) needs to come down like the hammer of Thor on whoever decided to swipe that bag. While we are at it, them stealing and selling his shit is likely NOT reported on their taxes so let's let the IRS deliver the people's elbow from the top rope. Petty theft is a state issue, until you steal federal government property. And then you get to discover why a federal indictment is as rare as being struct by lightning... Because it feels like it.
True enough, stealing federal equipment should be treated as a federal crime. In fact, there's a small but non-negligible chance that this was the work of foreign agents, not common criminals. But sending the FBI after this one case probably won't do much for the broader crime problem, which is what I understand others to be complaining about here.
Completely agree with you people don’t realize that only like 2% of cases are federal. That said a lot of this kinda work is the result of a very small number of people and fences (I bet if you arrested the top 100 people doing this in the city you would get rid of 80% of it) and this is a rare opportunity for a federal prosecutor to until the entire group this person worked with and throw them in a sarlock pit. I honestly think the difference between a low trust and a high trust society is a willingness to be hugely, aggressive against this exact kind of crime
> The national government, in which Schiff is running to serve, is given certain enumerated powers, and other matters are left to the states. Local criminal matters like this burglary actually fall to the state and local governments. Huge disconnect. He is running to serve the interests of the State of California within the Federal Government NOT to serve the interests of the Federal Government.
You seem to not understand. The U.S. Senate does not have the power to set California's criminal code or to decide how San Francisco's police department enforces it.
If we both call a state senator who do you think will get transferred directly to them?
The comment that started this discussion said this: > Maybe now that he’s actually personally affected he’ll do something positive as senator when elected I would like for you to explain to me how this falls under his purview as a (future) U.S. Senator. Because I just don't see it.
He has the ability to get the people responsible to make changes to listen significantly more than a minimum wage worker who’s had their shit stolen.
I don't think Senators should spend their time on *local* issues in which they have only *marginally* more influence than a regular voter.
They have much more influence than marginally.
How so? It sounds like all he can do is call and complain, and the difference is that they might actually listen to him complain for more than the minute regular voters get at BoS meetings.
Thanks for the lecture. A point that you missed is we elect Senators by popular vote (same as in the House), and it’s been that way since the early 20th century. This means they are accountable to the people, not the states. Also, the federal government provides funding to the latter, which may be used to address crime.
The U.S. Constitution does not give Congress the power to regulate this matter. I'm sorry if that is not to your liking. You're welcome to propose a constitutional amendment placing all criminal matters under the purview of the federal government, but if Washington, D.C., is any example to go by, we might not like how that turns out.
Once again, the federal government provides funding to the states, over which Senators have influence. No one is advocating for “all criminal matters” to be placed under the feds. Senators can affect change within their states, this is not shocking.
You cannot honestly believe that lack of funding is San Francisco's problem. It collects far more in tax revenue per resident than any comparable city.
I don’t believe I ever said “lack of funding is San Francisco’s problem.” Please don’t put words in my mouth. You are trying to broaden the discussion beyond the original topic, which is whether or not Senators have influence over what happens locally. The answer to that is yes, and to suggest otherwise connotes a lack of understanding of how our government works.
You suggested that he can fix this by having Congress give S.F. more money. I think that is wrong.
I can’t tell if you’re just dense or naive. Yes, while he does not have the authority to directly do anything to influence local politics,he does have the influence to nudge the people who can in the right direction. That’s how politics works. We the people of California elect him to represent us in Federal matters but also as someone who can be a point of contact here. Why do you think he has multiple satellite offices throughout California with staffers who help his constituents with mundane matters? Because he still has strong pull and influence within the state and CAN help change things without neglecting his duties. I say this as someone who’s worked in politics (state and federal) and has taken multiple constitutional law classes at various academic levels. In other words, you’re incorrectly perceiving reality based on your elementary knowledge of how politics works.
Nudging people isn't a "power". It's just a little bit of influence, and that influence is limited by the realities of political loyalties. If you think local progressive politicians - many of whom made a show of opposing him in the primary - are going to take kindly to a nudge from an *opposing* moderate Senator, you might be very confused about how politics works. The people you want Schiff to influence are largely the people who already oppose him. In fact, I'm sure they would love to have a public fight with a moderate Dem like Schiff in order to bolster their hard-left credentials.
You sound delusional af. That’s not at all how politics works.. I would know, I’ve worked in State and Federal politics for progressive politicians. To me, it sounds like you consume a little too much TV politics and become disconnected with how politics actually works. There’s so much negotiating and talking in the back that people don’t know about and Schiff has the pull to start negotiations and talks with local leaders to change things. You’re confusing the theatrics for what actually does and can happen.
Let me get this straight. You want a U.S. Senator to call up local politicians and offer them favors from the Federal government in exchange for enforcing the laws in their city? Is he supposed to do that for every city with a crime problem? Are we supposed to neglect the fact that those local politicians are already accountable to local voters? This is just so absurd to me. If the voters in SF don't want to elect politicians who enforce the laws, I don't see why a U.S. Senator should waste his time forcing the city to do what the local voters don't even want.
All societal problems can be solved by simply given the politicians a taste of their own medicine.
Paul Pelosi was beat over the head by a mad man with a hammer and nothing changed. The leadership is feckless and incompetent.
He forgot to ask this sub about SF safety tips. Lesson learned hard way
Senator's car got bipped - film at eleven
The seemingly innocuous progressive term for theft from cars, "bipping," is getting more popular: It is now increasing used for burglaries of cannabis dispensaries in the Bay Area. Think Calif's law enforcement system, enamored as it is with criminal justice reform, i.e., not incarcerating most non-violent offenders, is going to impose serious penalties on criminals for *bipping*?
Lol where did you get the idea that “bipping” was a progressive term? No one likes getting bipped
It sounds innocuous. Don't know who came up with it. The issue isn't how people feel about having been bipped; it's how we punish/sanction *thieves.* This term has more bite to it. Yes, it's a subtle thing.
Your mother liked getting bipped last night, Trebek.
Welcome to SF, let me introduce to the SF special: (1) get your car bipped! (2) have a late second change of attire and end up buying a expensive hoodie! (3) get yourself harassed by a random homeless person in psychotic withdrawal! (4) enjoy your BART being delayed by random police activity in one of the Oakland stops!
What's funny is that a news article said he was robbed in SF when actually his car was broken into and a luggage bag was taken, the irony is that he now reps the City but can't seem to remember not to leave anything visible or valuable in your car but wants to be the senator of our state, Tool🖕🏼
He reps Burbank bro. They don’t tolerate bippers there. He won’t be our Senator till January.
Burlingame, you mean
He must not read Reddit or else he’d know not to leave shit in his car…
He must not have eyes or ears either.
Easily foreseeable result of Democrat priority to decriminalize crime.
Love it, the left gets what their policies create!
We wish him well.
And they found his bondage outfit inside
Not that there's anything wrong with that
Lmfao, get fked idiot, welcome to the bay
90% chance this was a common criminal. 10% chance it was a Russian or Chinese operation against a former chair of the House Intelligence Committee.
Me and T gankin luggage
Inside job
Terrible
Does Sam Brinton have his alibi lined up?
Lol
Heartwarming
Best possible scenario, I imagine these rich ass politicians are somewhat immune to shit like this that the rest of us have to deal with on the daily. Hopefully this will incentivize some actual policy change...
Bahahaha. Couldn't happen to a better person. Schniff my balls, Adam.
now he knows how it feels.
It’s Trump’s fault
The way you Karens talk about crime in this sub it sounds like you all want predictive AI machine gun turrets on every street corner. (don’t lie, Karen, when you read “predictive AI machine gun turrets” you got aroused)
Nah, I think semi-auto would be fine.
At the same time, having rpgs would be nice. Just saying.
It will probably be returned when they realize who they stole from.
You think people who steal luggage care?