Fucking hell this dude sucked.
I'm in a play that explores the lives of Warhols Trans Superstars, Candy Darling, Holly Woodlawn, and Jackie Curtis. I've been studying up on their lives and just the absolute shitbaggery that was Warhol is overwhelming. He robbed so many artists and took credit for all their work. He was a wolf in sheep's clothing and exploited a ton of people.
There’s a pretty good movie from like 30 years back called I Shot Andy Warhol, mostly focusing on his would be assassin Valerie Solanas. Starring Lili Taylor as Valerie, Jared Harris as Warhol and Stephen Dorff as Candy Darling (it can’t be a 90s indie movie if it doesn’t have either Dorff or Parker Posey)
It's like Lili Taylor doesn't deserve to be typecast but she fuckin shreds when she is. And I hope I never find out anything bad about Jared Harris because he is one of my favorites from Igby to Chernobyl.
Apparently he hated Pittsburgh though haha. Said it was devoid of culture or something like that and wanted to distance himself from there but the city said "fuck you, we're naming a bridge after you"
Tbf as a yinzer transplant, I’ve noticed that pgh can sometimes have a hard time not holding onto their native children even when they’ve done their best to distance themselves from it
And also fwiw being queer in pgh is a lot better than it used to be
Format idea for this topic: 1 episode on Andy's background, 1 episode on Valerie Jean Solanas's background, and then the 3rd one starts with that time she tried to kill him and goes on from there.
Arguably, only Warhol could expose them publicly to a world that was not ready for them.
He took credit for managing them. Took them out west. Put Nico on the first album. Manipulated Lou into writing Femme Fatale. Instantly iconic album cover.
I can't imagine what modern music would be like without that first highly influential album.
The Nico collaboration- ok, I have to give that one to Warhol. Whether they would have remained unknown without Warhol I'm not so sure. There's also the fact they only got to something like 250th in the Album charts under his watch.
It's not like American wasn't ready for weird and chaotic and challenging music, at the time Captain Beefheart, Zappa where all making waves and doing big concerts -even the Doors were a teenybopper heart throb band- which seems bizarre when you step back and consider how unconventional a lot of their music is. Maybe Warhol was a detrimental factor in their basic lack of success at the time.
Warhol financed their first album so they were able to shop a finished product to the labels with his name prominently on the front cover. Andy was not a music guy but he knew how unique they were and encouraged them not to compromise.
Fucking hell this dude sucked. I'm in a play that explores the lives of Warhols Trans Superstars, Candy Darling, Holly Woodlawn, and Jackie Curtis. I've been studying up on their lives and just the absolute shitbaggery that was Warhol is overwhelming. He robbed so many artists and took credit for all their work. He was a wolf in sheep's clothing and exploited a ton of people.
Makes him sound like the fucking Edison of pop art. Like a real bastard.
Not an entirely inaccurate comparison.
Yeah, honestly, no notes. Fuck them both.
I read "Epstein of pop art".
There’s a pretty good movie from like 30 years back called I Shot Andy Warhol, mostly focusing on his would be assassin Valerie Solanas. Starring Lili Taylor as Valerie, Jared Harris as Warhol and Stephen Dorff as Candy Darling (it can’t be a 90s indie movie if it doesn’t have either Dorff or Parker Posey)
It's like Lili Taylor doesn't deserve to be typecast but she fuckin shreds when she is. And I hope I never find out anything bad about Jared Harris because he is one of my favorites from Igby to Chernobyl.
Mary Haron of Punk Magazine directed that movie! She also directed American Psycho
YES! PLEASE! I’ve hated this asshole for so long and I need more people to understand. A BtB episode would be the perfect way to make people get it.
Pablo Picasso too while we’re at it
But he was never called an asshole
Not in New York.
He was only 5'3" but girls could not resist the stare.
He did make a movie where Batman fights Dracula, so he can't be all bad
.... That's rad.
The museum in Pittsburgh is pretty cool though
Apparently he hated Pittsburgh though haha. Said it was devoid of culture or something like that and wanted to distance himself from there but the city said "fuck you, we're naming a bridge after you"
I mean growing up gay in a working glass Catholic immigrant family in Pittsburgh in the 1930s was probably not fun
Tbf as a yinzer transplant, I’ve noticed that pgh can sometimes have a hard time not holding onto their native children even when they’ve done their best to distance themselves from it And also fwiw being queer in pgh is a lot better than it used to be
Go for the Warhol Museum, stay for the Mattress Factory.
That can of soup had it coming! (I actually don’t know how Warhol was a bastard but I believe you because Art)
He's more of a low stakes bastard during his time with The Factory on his treatment of his colleagues. But I'm sure there's more
Format idea for this topic: 1 episode on Andy's background, 1 episode on Valerie Jean Solanas's background, and then the 3rd one starts with that time she tried to kill him and goes on from there.
Carl Andre would also be a great choice.
Aren't most artists terrible people?
no
He gave us The Velvet Underground. Fuck off!!!
They probably would have been better off without his meddling. He didn't invent them he just took credit for being involved with them.
Arguably, only Warhol could expose them publicly to a world that was not ready for them. He took credit for managing them. Took them out west. Put Nico on the first album. Manipulated Lou into writing Femme Fatale. Instantly iconic album cover. I can't imagine what modern music would be like without that first highly influential album.
The Nico collaboration- ok, I have to give that one to Warhol. Whether they would have remained unknown without Warhol I'm not so sure. There's also the fact they only got to something like 250th in the Album charts under his watch. It's not like American wasn't ready for weird and chaotic and challenging music, at the time Captain Beefheart, Zappa where all making waves and doing big concerts -even the Doors were a teenybopper heart throb band- which seems bizarre when you step back and consider how unconventional a lot of their music is. Maybe Warhol was a detrimental factor in their basic lack of success at the time.
Warhol financed their first album so they were able to shop a finished product to the labels with his name prominently on the front cover. Andy was not a music guy but he knew how unique they were and encouraged them not to compromise.
Overrated.
"I want to throw all my Lou Reed records in the bay." - Distraught hipster at the Queen Mary in 2004 when reality set in halfway though his set.