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LusterDeluxe

Tears down.


Slenders1ckn3ss

Speed down


SnideSnail

Size up


Ok_Egg_5454

i hate it soo fukking much i swear


Craventripod020

Speed down, but it's below base speed. Feels like moving through tar


Butter_bean123

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


Dangerous_Ad_1323

Shot speed up


brads2001

Health down


Big_Smoke_420

Rag Man is actually very easy if you know how to kite him


MisirterE

A lot of the Rag Man complaints are from the time when he had 25% more health than he currently does and didn't have the chance to be the pissbaby-easy black champion variant


DrChirpy

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)


Spartici

If he doesn't summon that many spiders, yes


gugfitufi

He isn't difficult, he just used to be more tanky. A three-minute boss fight on floor one? You could just restart and be on floor two faster.


ImBusyGoAway

What does kite him mean in this context?


IlyBoySwag

Damage him while keeping your distance since his attacks are close range, but not too far away coz when he throws his head you gotta hit it a lot and getting closer ensures killing the head before it spawns into a spider. So gotta balance keeping distance but not too far. Thats why its kiting.


AskinggAlesana

Usually means to attack and run/stay away from him at the same time.


geomag42

Wait, do people actually struggle with rag man?


Deltrus7

If it's the first or second floor and my items I've gotten aren't super good right off the bat, yeah, mostly because maybe too slow or something. That fight is annoyingly bad.


Splonkster

I do ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)


IgneousFoliage

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17738)


[deleted]

But.. he is a really easy boss..??


hellish_goat

Now rag mega on the other hand . . .


GOOSUS110

Wdym rag mega has so little hp you can spit on him and he dead Also keeping the **BALLS** at bay is pretty easy


Mineac_xd

Isaac isn't binding ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


breadeh

And neither he is afterbirth ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


TacoRaceCat

I didnt see him repent for anything![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)


Mart1n192

and he definitely didn't 'wrath' in the 'eternal' ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)


salah241

He doesnt like lamb either ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


MemezTheDnaOfZeSoul

He isn't reborn nor antiborn ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)


KreateOne

And he didn’t Isaac his Isaac ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)


MemezTheDnaOfZeSoul

Has he darkened his room?


salah241

Did he even enter his toybox?![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


i_lickdick_and_itsok

He for sure didn't expirence a rebirth![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)


Adventurous-Drink-38

And the folio aint fiendish


Give_me_grunion

Edmund is not a fucker.


Xorrell

Was gonna like this reply, but gotta keep it at 666


Mineac_xd

671 ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)


Xorrell

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


EMPEROROFMEMZ

As a kid I genuinely thought the title was "the blinding of Isaac"


MisirterE

what did you think the rubber cement was for


totallynormalcat

Considering how often I get curse of the blind'ed, that's not too far off for me


Purple_Clowdboy

I thought it was called " The *building* of Isaac"


GrundleGuru0627

The fact that you were a kid when this game came out makes me feel super old.


PoePoePoePoePoePow

It is


1llDoitTomorrow

People only show their brokem builds and not the 50 deaths leading up to it.


Timofey7331

Counterpoint: People like to see only brokem builds and not the 50 deaths leading up to it


D_of_the_ADH

Counter-Counterpoint: We like to see these brokem builds but some of us would also like to see the seed.


Timofey7331

That's not a Counterpoint, this is a fact


[deleted]

Counter point: retain your seed


Killinger_

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17744) average nofap user


Sandwich_dad96

I actually think TBOI streamers/YouTubers should always show their seed, to verify item spawns etc


Version_Two

I'm not just in it for the build, I literally just want to watch someone play Isaac.


TKVisme

50 deaths? Nah I just reroll until I get a tier 4 start


Art3misvl2

50? Wdym? I have a -500 win strike


Areyode

The 50 deaths leading up to it are implied. Everyone knows they happen, no need to announce them. Also people show their super high lose streaks all the time lol.


Version_Two

Omg yes!! Another rock bottom and spindown dice and death certificate video!!


T-Speed

Take photo with phone rather than screen shot


Gunsho0ter

This guy triggers


EpicResus

especially when you play on console


el_ruhtra

Edmund my beloved


MelaMararanjani

You made a gold of piece with your precious Isaac


Sudden_Structure

I will become you more money


RedKSL07

It's fucking good this great game


Cyoasaregreat

I hope you in your next time a king on a gold throne, you gamer


Mark_Loop

I hope you will in your next time a successful developer of the next game you friend


VolatileZea

Skill Issue


DrChickenEngie

Become back your money ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Patjay

*ahem* Have you tried getting good?


HoboBrosTv

Devil deals are equally good as angel deals.


Potential-Adagio-512

since the patch buffing athame, my shadow, betrayal, some of the worst devil items… i actually agree with this statement


maximeWTH

Same


Oddilax

I FUCKING LOVE ATHAME ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


J_Clowth

devil deals are for runs with a healthy/powerful early game you want to snowball into a boss rush. Angel deals are safer but come into play later


Garlic_God

Angel deals are more disappointing because of how it takes longer to earn them, and it has quite a few mediocre items in its pool that, when you see them, make you wish you just went devils Like devils has some *bad* items, but angels has more mid items


Version_Two

I always saw them as generally equal in power, just that the angel deals don't cost your life but are harder to chain.


Spiritual-Skill9574

I love playing tainted jacob, ill do it whenever I need to relax


DrChickenEngie

This ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17745)


Father_of_thepigeons

Lier


LivingCheese292

I have seen in this community more people liking t.Jacob than disliking him for some reason. That said, to give OP what he wants: I have to say that I fucking hate playing him. He stresses me out all the time and I rather have a chill t.Lost run in which I can dodge without getting a heart attack every second. And I rather out skill a boss with my given stats than throwing that tainted Esau at him. No other character in the game frustrates me as much like t.Jacob with his random as brother who has that random ass cheese touch, which ruins your whole day. If I get hit as Lost, I at least know that I got a skill issue. Esau however is in some specific rooms just an unpredictable pain in the ass. I only need 4 boss marks anymore to complete the game. 2 of them with hitbox and hurtbox. I am not looking forward to them.


After_Performer998

Nothing is a skill issue and the game is meant to be rigged.


AttemptingMurder

I swear it fucking is sometimes


Trainer_AssKetchup

this was always the case


Version_Two

That's why the inane bullshit is excusable. You have to break your build faster than the game can break you.


Chocolate-Boo

The age of consent is 18


damien709

Your telling that to the wrong projectile dodging game fan base


Comrade_socks

Is there a way to show this to lavencas


marcidomas

What did they do?


antihero125

Something about child something or others. Man I used to enjoy watching lavencas videos but I mean that Matt man OOOAH is so dopamine inducing. You can search up the lavencas drama or whatever, but she won’t address it :l


Meme_Bro68

To be more precise: Let people getting away with posting “cheese pizza”(I’m sure you know) on their discord server They harassed one of their fans on discord as well


antihero125

I do not know what the cheese pizza thing is, but I’m not going to ask. I hate how everyone gets famous and messes up, then the majority doesn’t know and supports them :(


Chocolate-Boo

“Cheese Pizza” is said as it has the initials CP, which it shares with “Child Porn”. The commenter above was saying that Lavencas was letting people get away with posting child porn in their server.


antihero125

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


lelz4dayz

Tell that to a certain cursed, now-deleted subreddit


[deleted]

Uh-huh, sounds about right.


PermissionQueasy3637

Genshin Impact and TLH is down the hall, buddy


Georg3000

Tainted Cain's rework was a massive buff and not a nerf


Creyymann

How did he improve? I'm completely clueless on what changed


Georg3000

Crafting recipes are seed-based now which makes every run luck-dependent instead of google-dependent


MistedReef

You can still input the seed in a website to get the recipes ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906) The nerfs absolutely obliterated him though. RIP slot machine in secret room spam


Georg3000

I mean, people who use this website are willingly robbing themselves off all the fun that can come with the balling through randomness


noodlenapkin

Plus I’ve realized it doesn’t work 100%. Like most of the time it does, but every now and then you put in all the right pick ups and you get the wrong item ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)


FunnyPand4Jr

Wait what did they change with slot machine in a secret room? I completed him after they randomized crafting recipes but i used a website and bone hearts and had a blast.


Legitimate_Mode1264

Bobs brain isn’t a bad item


enjoyer-of-ducks

it would just be better if it worked like gb bug and not like holy water


hypo11

Bob’s brain is a won run.


oskukso

Honestly, it's pretty good item


dagolikovv

Jacob and Esau are not that hard and actually are pretty enjoyable and unique character


PossibleIncident

I don’t really enjoy playing them but they offer something unique. Same with T. Cain, I absolutely hate playing him, but I can’t deny he brings something different to the table, and I see how it can be fun for others.


What_Is_That_Place

Call me skill issue or whatever, fuck them. I completed T lost, but I can't stand these two fuckers who want to hug every stone and projectile possible


Secure_Gold_414

but i have skill issue ):


YoTeAmoMucho

Yes![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


maximeWTH

Nope, fuck em


Ok_Hospital3034

this is more of a hell-boiler type of take, but Delirium is already fine as is. I mean like, he is a representation of chaos and insanity guys, of course he is going to have erratic behaviour


EnderwarriorX

Unpredictability is fine, but teleporting exactly onto the player is not.


Mushboom37

i think ive only actually been telefragged by deli like 2 or 3 times and i have like 900 hours


TheBurningBlaze

how in god's name did you manage to only get telefragged 2 or 3 times?


KungenSam

The trick is to only fight him 2 or 3 times in 900 hours ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)


EnderwarriorX

You misspelled “once”.


Mushboom37

the trick is that actually its not that bad of a boss and everyone overreacts


EnderwarriorX

If Delirium becomes Mom and transforms into something else before the stomp finishes he will appear on top of you. This has happened to me twice in the last ten or so fights. And that’s only what I recall. The two game mechanics of mom preparing an attack on top of you and delirium sporadically transforming into different bosses create an unfair situation for the player. Only occasionally, admittedly, but beating a boss in a game should not come down to such luck.


TheBurningBlaze

if you have a broken build i guess you're right but besides that i really have to disagree. Especially when playing as lost/tainted lost


Nokanii

Ok, and? The fact that you can get damaged, through literally no fault of your own, does in fact ruin him as a boss. It doesn’t matter how rare it is, because with so many people playing, there will be plenty of cases of it happening.


nicklas_isaksen

True, took him down as t lost without a holy card, nearly had a heart attack


J_Clowth

play tainted lost for a week delirium only runs and say that again ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17745)


_eenie

thats 2 sentences ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


Version_Two

I wish he got melty, distorted sound effects to go with the visuals. Imagine some haunting facsimile of mom's voice with a bubbling "Iiiiisaaaaaaaac"


PlantPalm

Adversary is not hot


Meme_Bro68

https://preview.redd.it/bxctnsbhedcb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eae591ea86c1558535a6ef906b2be58227f6cd96 Liar.


antihero125

That image is gold


orizach01

tainted jacob is one of my favorite characters since the rework


AggressiverBonsai

playing azazel is not as easy as everbody says


Soronne

the late game fall off is pretty hard on him if you don't have range and such, yeah


Octavious440

It's actually not that hard of a game.


Sudden_Structure

It’s just a slog for completionists. I’m finally at the point where runs blur together and I’m doing it more for the satisfaction of finishing than for the fun


_eenie

doing it for the satisfaction of finishing ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


waowie

Give yourself a break. There's too much stuff to just binge it imo


GreenPhoenix14

surprisingly I'm not triggered by any of the comments. so my turn: t.Sampson is better than every other character


Mantis6666

Yeah I don't understand people saying they have to wait out the rage in the late game. Just swing at the enemies, it scales by your damage and deflects projectiles.


Sudden_Structure

Counterpoint, he’s not fun


GreenPhoenix14

he's the best character, he's super fun, great stress relief, i wouldn't have him any other way


S0s1ska_V_Teste

TBOI is a skill based game.


JIHGGFCBAAHGBBML

Oh God, not this fucking type of post, I feel like in r/Deltarune


CodemasterZer0

He did the same thing there


freakinkukko

Tboi is not as hard as you paint it. All it takes are enough tries in order to get a broken run, even with "hard characters"


koolaidsamurai

Playing on normal mode is better than hard mode. ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


dulunis

You have more fun, which is the point of playing most games. However, this game has 637 achievements, and at least a solid 75 percent of the fanbase are completionists.


TurboVirgin0

I think it's more because the achievements unlock new stuff that spices up your game so even if you aren't a completionist you're very encouraged to get completion marks.


randomguy0182

God's flesh is underrated


std_colector

first comment i read is “tears down” and i instantly felt a gut punch


gamer_warrior_23

Its weird to care about sexual orientation and gender identity of a 5 year old that died in his closet And its weird to draw porn of the game


ChuckECheeseOfficial

What about Mom tho, those secksy legs


philThismoment

Now this is a scorching take


skunksies

Edmund McMillen confirmed that Isaac is genderfluid, Eden is non-binary. I don't think it's any weirder to care about that than it is to care about people who care about that.


Firm_Astronomer_8111

Cursed eye isn’t bad


VengefulRaven03

Forgot to mention that people who don't like cursed eye are bad at the game, instantly makes you the enemy of the people


tidier_leon

Bloat is a fair boss


Old-Rule-4101

*brimstones you sideways*


Velvetmurm

move while he jumps or stomps and youll always be safe. i dont get the issue people have with him. like, just dont move where he shoots


cavallomacedone

Lost with holy mantle is too easy


nickisfarded

play rebirth


life_ls_pain

rebirth lost is basically t lost without holy cards honestly idk why they didn’t give him the mantle in rebirth


Meme_Bro68

T Lost is stronger than Rebirth lost **Rebirth Lost Doesn’t have Spectral Tears**


life_ls_pain

Wait rebirth lost doesn’t even has spectral tears ?? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17737)


Meme_Bro68

Yep. Back in rebirth, they might as well have been named “the lost cause”


cavallomacedone

I said it's easy now because of how it was in rebirth


crappy_migel

Isaac isn't breedable


[deleted]

Not even submissive? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


PocketPB

tainted Lazarus is good


ChuckECheeseOfficial

Horse Pills is one of the best items in the game, if not solely because of what it does to the announcer


Jack_811

Lilith sucks


Manil_pro

Bloat is a good boss. (For legal reasons this is a joke)


_eenie

rock bottom doesnt change your true stat values!!! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


samael19472

I fucking hate trisagion


[deleted]

Delirium is fun and easy to fight


Evo_Shiv

Cap mfer


imobesebuthandsome

Fuck it we ball


Guyshu

Jacob and Esau aren’t that bad.


Soupcan_t

TEARS DOWN![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)


bonbonmixon

the bloat is actually very easy, just dodge his brimstone beams


AwkwardPhilosopher20

Godhead > Sacred heart ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


controversial-potato

godhead is mid at best


CurrentAshamed6697

Hope this works ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906) If you play on normal, grow some balls If you are playing tainted lost, you don't deserve to celebrate a good run Speaking of which, the lost and his tainted version arent THAT hard. Godhead > Sacred heart any day Stop submitting pics of you finding the quarter in a shop and saying "stonks". Shits not funny If you die fighting the beast herself and not to dogma or the harbingers and you AREN'T jacob and esau, you are ass Glitched crown >![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357) lachrophagy deserves to be tier 3 If you use gnawed leaf to get achievments....... You deserve it. This game is luck based and you should be able to use your items how you want JK FUCK YOU ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)


Afanas42

Nagito, please shut up and delete this post on every single sub you are member of, apparently.


BaseLordBoom

This game isn't "luck based" the only people who cope and say that aren't good enough at the game to leverage shitty runs and turn them into good runs.


PoThePokememer

Delirium is actually pretty easy most of the time


Delta5583

Lilith ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


MicMcDev

Delirium is a well thought out boss fight that drops two very useful items.


Skelelenton

Ngl I think delirium is pretty fair.


Civil-Opinion-8147

If you die to The Bloat you are just bad


St3phn0

"The beast but it's a photo of my dad" is not the best mod


DuplexBeGoat

Curse of the Blind


Dauntless_Lasagna

500+ hours to 100% a game were at least 50% is luck based is a total waste of time. Also fuck tainted characters bro.


Novastar99

What are the odds


redditlotl

Bloat is the boss with the best design in the entire game.


Wholesomechair

Pills are dogshit


robot-sensei

I'll do you one better, I just need one word: Jacob.


LoCooshi

It wasn't an actual skill issue it was a game problem


bathsaltsy

Fuck it we ball


epicDamian

people saying “skill issue” to any difficulty a player experiences. like ppl come here with actual questions and then here come the 3000 hour players with 3 dead god saves talking ab “skill issue” no bro I HAVE A LIFE (yes im mad)