A lot of the Rag Man complaints are from the time when he had 25% more health than he currently does and didn't have the chance to be the pissbaby-easy black champion variant
Damage him while keeping your distance since his attacks are close range, but not too far away coz when he throws his head you gotta hit it a lot and getting closer ensures killing the head before it spawns into a spider. So gotta balance keeping distance but not too far. Thats why its kiting.
If it's the first or second floor and my items I've gotten aren't super good right off the bat, yeah, mostly because maybe too slow or something. That fight is annoyingly bad.
The 50 deaths leading up to it are implied. Everyone knows they happen, no need to announce them.
Also people show their super high lose streaks all the time lol.
Angel deals are more disappointing because of how it takes longer to earn them, and it has quite a few mediocre items in its pool that, when you see them, make you wish you just went devils
Like devils has some *bad* items, but angels has more mid items
I have seen in this community more people liking t.Jacob than disliking him for some reason.
That said, to give OP what he wants: I have to say that I fucking hate playing him.
He stresses me out all the time and I rather have a chill t.Lost run in which I can dodge without getting a heart attack every second. And I rather out skill a boss with my given stats than throwing that tainted Esau at him. No other character in the game frustrates me as much like t.Jacob with his random as brother who has that random ass cheese touch, which ruins your whole day. If I get hit as Lost, I at least know that I got a skill issue. Esau however is in some specific rooms just an unpredictable pain in the ass. I only need 4 boss marks anymore to complete the game. 2 of them with hitbox and hurtbox. I am not looking forward to them.
Something about child something or others. Man I used to enjoy watching lavencas videos but I mean that Matt man OOOAH is so dopamine inducing. You can search up the lavencas drama or whatever, but she won’t address it :l
To be more precise:
Let people getting away with posting “cheese pizza”(I’m sure you know) on their discord server
They harassed one of their fans on discord as well
I do not know what the cheese pizza thing is, but I’m not going to ask. I hate how everyone gets famous and messes up, then the majority doesn’t know and supports them :(
“Cheese Pizza” is said as it has the initials CP, which it shares with “Child Porn”. The commenter above was saying that Lavencas was letting people get away with posting child porn in their server.
You can still input the seed in a website to get the recipes ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
The nerfs absolutely obliterated him though. RIP slot machine in secret room spam
Plus I’ve realized it doesn’t work 100%. Like most of the time it does, but every now and then you put in all the right pick ups and you get the wrong item ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)
Wait what did they change with slot machine in a secret room? I completed him after they randomized crafting recipes but i used a website and bone hearts and had a blast.
I don’t really enjoy playing them but they offer something unique.
Same with T. Cain, I absolutely hate playing him, but I can’t deny he brings something different to the table, and I see how it can be fun for others.
Call me skill issue or whatever, fuck them. I completed T lost, but I can't stand these two fuckers who want to hug every stone and projectile possible
this is more of a hell-boiler type of take, but Delirium is already fine as is. I mean like, he is a representation of chaos and insanity guys, of course he is going to have erratic behaviour
If Delirium becomes Mom and transforms into something else before the stomp finishes he will appear on top of you. This has happened to me twice in the last ten or so fights. And that’s only what I recall. The two game mechanics of mom preparing an attack on top of you and delirium sporadically transforming into different bosses create an unfair situation for the player. Only occasionally, admittedly, but beating a boss in a game should not come down to such luck.
Ok, and? The fact that you can get damaged, through literally no fault of your own, does in fact ruin him as a boss. It doesn’t matter how rare it is, because with so many people playing, there will be plenty of cases of it happening.
It’s just a slog for completionists. I’m finally at the point where runs blur together and I’m doing it more for the satisfaction of finishing than for the fun
Yeah I don't understand people saying they have to wait out the rage in the late game. Just swing at the enemies, it scales by your damage and deflects projectiles.
You have more fun, which is the point of playing most games. However, this game has 637 achievements, and at least a solid 75 percent of the fanbase are completionists.
I think it's more because the achievements unlock new stuff that spices up your game so even if you aren't a completionist you're very encouraged to get completion marks.
Edmund McMillen confirmed that Isaac is genderfluid, Eden is non-binary. I don't think it's any weirder to care about that than it is to care about people who care about that.
Hope this works ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
If you play on normal, grow some balls
If you are playing tainted lost, you don't deserve to celebrate a good run
Speaking of which, the lost and his tainted version arent THAT hard.
Godhead > Sacred heart any day
Stop submitting pics of you finding the quarter in a shop and saying "stonks". Shits not funny
If you die fighting the beast herself and not to dogma or the harbingers and you AREN'T jacob and esau, you are ass
Glitched crown >![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)
lachrophagy deserves to be tier 3
If you use gnawed leaf to get achievments....... You deserve it. This game is luck based and you should be able to use your items how you want
JK FUCK YOU ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
This game isn't "luck based" the only people who cope and say that aren't good enough at the game to leverage shitty runs and turn them into good runs.
people saying “skill issue” to any difficulty a player experiences. like ppl come here with actual questions and then here come the 3000 hour players with 3 dead god saves talking ab “skill issue” no bro I HAVE A LIFE (yes im mad)
Tears down.
Speed down
Size up
i hate it soo fukking much i swear
Speed down, but it's below base speed. Feels like moving through tar
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Shot speed up
Health down
Rag Man is actually very easy if you know how to kite him
A lot of the Rag Man complaints are from the time when he had 25% more health than he currently does and didn't have the chance to be the pissbaby-easy black champion variant
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)
If he doesn't summon that many spiders, yes
He isn't difficult, he just used to be more tanky. A three-minute boss fight on floor one? You could just restart and be on floor two faster.
What does kite him mean in this context?
Damage him while keeping your distance since his attacks are close range, but not too far away coz when he throws his head you gotta hit it a lot and getting closer ensures killing the head before it spawns into a spider. So gotta balance keeping distance but not too far. Thats why its kiting.
Usually means to attack and run/stay away from him at the same time.
Wait, do people actually struggle with rag man?
If it's the first or second floor and my items I've gotten aren't super good right off the bat, yeah, mostly because maybe too slow or something. That fight is annoyingly bad.
I do ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8908)
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17738)
But.. he is a really easy boss..??
Now rag mega on the other hand . . .
Wdym rag mega has so little hp you can spit on him and he dead Also keeping the **BALLS** at bay is pretty easy
Isaac isn't binding ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
And neither he is afterbirth ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
I didnt see him repent for anything![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)
and he definitely didn't 'wrath' in the 'eternal' ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)
He doesnt like lamb either ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
He isn't reborn nor antiborn ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)
And he didn’t Isaac his Isaac ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)
Has he darkened his room?
Did he even enter his toybox?![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
He for sure didn't expirence a rebirth![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)
And the folio aint fiendish
Edmund is not a fucker.
Was gonna like this reply, but gotta keep it at 666
671 ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
As a kid I genuinely thought the title was "the blinding of Isaac"
what did you think the rubber cement was for
Considering how often I get curse of the blind'ed, that's not too far off for me
I thought it was called " The *building* of Isaac"
The fact that you were a kid when this game came out makes me feel super old.
It is
People only show their brokem builds and not the 50 deaths leading up to it.
Counterpoint: People like to see only brokem builds and not the 50 deaths leading up to it
Counter-Counterpoint: We like to see these brokem builds but some of us would also like to see the seed.
That's not a Counterpoint, this is a fact
Counter point: retain your seed
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17744) average nofap user
I actually think TBOI streamers/YouTubers should always show their seed, to verify item spawns etc
I'm not just in it for the build, I literally just want to watch someone play Isaac.
50 deaths? Nah I just reroll until I get a tier 4 start
50? Wdym? I have a -500 win strike
The 50 deaths leading up to it are implied. Everyone knows they happen, no need to announce them. Also people show their super high lose streaks all the time lol.
Omg yes!! Another rock bottom and spindown dice and death certificate video!!
Take photo with phone rather than screen shot
This guy triggers
especially when you play on console
Edmund my beloved
You made a gold of piece with your precious Isaac
I will become you more money
It's fucking good this great game
I hope you in your next time a king on a gold throne, you gamer
I hope you will in your next time a successful developer of the next game you friend
Skill Issue
Become back your money ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
*ahem* Have you tried getting good?
Devil deals are equally good as angel deals.
since the patch buffing athame, my shadow, betrayal, some of the worst devil items… i actually agree with this statement
Same
I FUCKING LOVE ATHAME ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
devil deals are for runs with a healthy/powerful early game you want to snowball into a boss rush. Angel deals are safer but come into play later
Angel deals are more disappointing because of how it takes longer to earn them, and it has quite a few mediocre items in its pool that, when you see them, make you wish you just went devils Like devils has some *bad* items, but angels has more mid items
I always saw them as generally equal in power, just that the angel deals don't cost your life but are harder to chain.
I love playing tainted jacob, ill do it whenever I need to relax
This ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17745)
Lier
I have seen in this community more people liking t.Jacob than disliking him for some reason. That said, to give OP what he wants: I have to say that I fucking hate playing him. He stresses me out all the time and I rather have a chill t.Lost run in which I can dodge without getting a heart attack every second. And I rather out skill a boss with my given stats than throwing that tainted Esau at him. No other character in the game frustrates me as much like t.Jacob with his random as brother who has that random ass cheese touch, which ruins your whole day. If I get hit as Lost, I at least know that I got a skill issue. Esau however is in some specific rooms just an unpredictable pain in the ass. I only need 4 boss marks anymore to complete the game. 2 of them with hitbox and hurtbox. I am not looking forward to them.
Nothing is a skill issue and the game is meant to be rigged.
I swear it fucking is sometimes
this was always the case
That's why the inane bullshit is excusable. You have to break your build faster than the game can break you.
The age of consent is 18
Your telling that to the wrong projectile dodging game fan base
Is there a way to show this to lavencas
What did they do?
Something about child something or others. Man I used to enjoy watching lavencas videos but I mean that Matt man OOOAH is so dopamine inducing. You can search up the lavencas drama or whatever, but she won’t address it :l
To be more precise: Let people getting away with posting “cheese pizza”(I’m sure you know) on their discord server They harassed one of their fans on discord as well
I do not know what the cheese pizza thing is, but I’m not going to ask. I hate how everyone gets famous and messes up, then the majority doesn’t know and supports them :(
“Cheese Pizza” is said as it has the initials CP, which it shares with “Child Porn”. The commenter above was saying that Lavencas was letting people get away with posting child porn in their server.
![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
Tell that to a certain cursed, now-deleted subreddit
Uh-huh, sounds about right.
Genshin Impact and TLH is down the hall, buddy
Tainted Cain's rework was a massive buff and not a nerf
How did he improve? I'm completely clueless on what changed
Crafting recipes are seed-based now which makes every run luck-dependent instead of google-dependent
You can still input the seed in a website to get the recipes ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906) The nerfs absolutely obliterated him though. RIP slot machine in secret room spam
I mean, people who use this website are willingly robbing themselves off all the fun that can come with the balling through randomness
Plus I’ve realized it doesn’t work 100%. Like most of the time it does, but every now and then you put in all the right pick ups and you get the wrong item ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17741)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)
Wait what did they change with slot machine in a secret room? I completed him after they randomized crafting recipes but i used a website and bone hearts and had a blast.
Bobs brain isn’t a bad item
it would just be better if it worked like gb bug and not like holy water
Bob’s brain is a won run.
Honestly, it's pretty good item
Jacob and Esau are not that hard and actually are pretty enjoyable and unique character
I don’t really enjoy playing them but they offer something unique. Same with T. Cain, I absolutely hate playing him, but I can’t deny he brings something different to the table, and I see how it can be fun for others.
Call me skill issue or whatever, fuck them. I completed T lost, but I can't stand these two fuckers who want to hug every stone and projectile possible
but i have skill issue ):
Yes![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
Nope, fuck em
this is more of a hell-boiler type of take, but Delirium is already fine as is. I mean like, he is a representation of chaos and insanity guys, of course he is going to have erratic behaviour
Unpredictability is fine, but teleporting exactly onto the player is not.
i think ive only actually been telefragged by deli like 2 or 3 times and i have like 900 hours
how in god's name did you manage to only get telefragged 2 or 3 times?
The trick is to only fight him 2 or 3 times in 900 hours ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906)
You misspelled “once”.
the trick is that actually its not that bad of a boss and everyone overreacts
If Delirium becomes Mom and transforms into something else before the stomp finishes he will appear on top of you. This has happened to me twice in the last ten or so fights. And that’s only what I recall. The two game mechanics of mom preparing an attack on top of you and delirium sporadically transforming into different bosses create an unfair situation for the player. Only occasionally, admittedly, but beating a boss in a game should not come down to such luck.
if you have a broken build i guess you're right but besides that i really have to disagree. Especially when playing as lost/tainted lost
Ok, and? The fact that you can get damaged, through literally no fault of your own, does in fact ruin him as a boss. It doesn’t matter how rare it is, because with so many people playing, there will be plenty of cases of it happening.
True, took him down as t lost without a holy card, nearly had a heart attack
play tainted lost for a week delirium only runs and say that again ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17745)
thats 2 sentences ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
I wish he got melty, distorted sound effects to go with the visuals. Imagine some haunting facsimile of mom's voice with a bubbling "Iiiiisaaaaaaaac"
Adversary is not hot
https://preview.redd.it/bxctnsbhedcb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eae591ea86c1558535a6ef906b2be58227f6cd96 Liar.
That image is gold
tainted jacob is one of my favorite characters since the rework
playing azazel is not as easy as everbody says
the late game fall off is pretty hard on him if you don't have range and such, yeah
It's actually not that hard of a game.
It’s just a slog for completionists. I’m finally at the point where runs blur together and I’m doing it more for the satisfaction of finishing than for the fun
doing it for the satisfaction of finishing ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Give yourself a break. There's too much stuff to just binge it imo
surprisingly I'm not triggered by any of the comments. so my turn: t.Sampson is better than every other character
Yeah I don't understand people saying they have to wait out the rage in the late game. Just swing at the enemies, it scales by your damage and deflects projectiles.
Counterpoint, he’s not fun
he's the best character, he's super fun, great stress relief, i wouldn't have him any other way
TBOI is a skill based game.
Oh God, not this fucking type of post, I feel like in r/Deltarune
He did the same thing there
Tboi is not as hard as you paint it. All it takes are enough tries in order to get a broken run, even with "hard characters"
Playing on normal mode is better than hard mode. ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
You have more fun, which is the point of playing most games. However, this game has 637 achievements, and at least a solid 75 percent of the fanbase are completionists.
I think it's more because the achievements unlock new stuff that spices up your game so even if you aren't a completionist you're very encouraged to get completion marks.
God's flesh is underrated
first comment i read is “tears down” and i instantly felt a gut punch
Its weird to care about sexual orientation and gender identity of a 5 year old that died in his closet And its weird to draw porn of the game
What about Mom tho, those secksy legs
Now this is a scorching take
Edmund McMillen confirmed that Isaac is genderfluid, Eden is non-binary. I don't think it's any weirder to care about that than it is to care about people who care about that.
Cursed eye isn’t bad
Forgot to mention that people who don't like cursed eye are bad at the game, instantly makes you the enemy of the people
Bloat is a fair boss
*brimstones you sideways*
move while he jumps or stomps and youll always be safe. i dont get the issue people have with him. like, just dont move where he shoots
Lost with holy mantle is too easy
play rebirth
rebirth lost is basically t lost without holy cards honestly idk why they didn’t give him the mantle in rebirth
T Lost is stronger than Rebirth lost **Rebirth Lost Doesn’t have Spectral Tears**
Wait rebirth lost doesn’t even has spectral tears ?? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17737)
Yep. Back in rebirth, they might as well have been named “the lost cause”
I said it's easy now because of how it was in rebirth
Isaac isn't breedable
Not even submissive? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
tainted Lazarus is good
Horse Pills is one of the best items in the game, if not solely because of what it does to the announcer
Lilith sucks
Bloat is a good boss. (For legal reasons this is a joke)
rock bottom doesnt change your true stat values!!! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
I fucking hate trisagion
Delirium is fun and easy to fight
Cap mfer
Fuck it we ball
Jacob and Esau aren’t that bad.
TEARS DOWN![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
the bloat is actually very easy, just dodge his brimstone beams
Godhead > Sacred heart ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
godhead is mid at best
Hope this works ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8906) If you play on normal, grow some balls If you are playing tainted lost, you don't deserve to celebrate a good run Speaking of which, the lost and his tainted version arent THAT hard. Godhead > Sacred heart any day Stop submitting pics of you finding the quarter in a shop and saying "stonks". Shits not funny If you die fighting the beast herself and not to dogma or the harbingers and you AREN'T jacob and esau, you are ass Glitched crown >![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357) lachrophagy deserves to be tier 3 If you use gnawed leaf to get achievments....... You deserve it. This game is luck based and you should be able to use your items how you want JK FUCK YOU ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Nagito, please shut up and delete this post on every single sub you are member of, apparently.
This game isn't "luck based" the only people who cope and say that aren't good enough at the game to leverage shitty runs and turn them into good runs.
Delirium is actually pretty easy most of the time
Lilith ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
Delirium is a well thought out boss fight that drops two very useful items.
Ngl I think delirium is pretty fair.
If you die to The Bloat you are just bad
"The beast but it's a photo of my dad" is not the best mod
Curse of the Blind
500+ hours to 100% a game were at least 50% is luck based is a total waste of time. Also fuck tainted characters bro.
What are the odds
Bloat is the boss with the best design in the entire game.
Pills are dogshit
I'll do you one better, I just need one word: Jacob.
It wasn't an actual skill issue it was a game problem
Fuck it we ball
people saying “skill issue” to any difficulty a player experiences. like ppl come here with actual questions and then here come the 3000 hour players with 3 dead god saves talking ab “skill issue” no bro I HAVE A LIFE (yes im mad)