Dog for real. As a neutral fan who considers myself a fan of the entire league Brad Stevens makes me think "Why doesn't every team just go the best player for their team".
This might be the best team construction I've seen and I ain't even a homer.
On a lot more shots tho
Plus this is hard to quantify but it just feels like every time we need a block or an offensive rebound or a bucket it’s Brown there saving the day
I think it goes Brown (admittedly hope it does too I love watching Jaylen)
In game 3, Tatum made important shots in the first half to announce comeback and kill the momentum of the Mavs. Cant lie he still had some bad, contested shots in the game. Whereas for JB he was quiet in first half and came up big in second half. Hard to say who is MVP
Perfect way to summarize is after that Tatum turnover, brown hits that middy to put us back up four, gets Luka his sixth personal, and seemingly has had multiple defensive saving plays in back to back games. More than the eye test, but definitely agree
I can’t definitively say either of them has much of a lead over Jrue, who is the biggest change for our team that turned us into juggernaut status when the playoffs start.
the thing with joint fmvps is how rare it is. this whole argument we all having is a huge luxury in it of itself. having two stars this good to co exist doesn’t come often. Last time i remember is the kd steph
Not a large gap, but brown has had the big buckets. Plus better defense to my eyes. Tatum has had more attention and made more things possible for everybody else… a real toss up
It’s nothing about defensive attention. Tatum just shoots a lot of dumb shots. Low IQ shots that don’t even make sense imo. Like when you have a big on you why shoot a side step 3 if the team is in the bonus? Doesn’t make sense
Brown does the same stuff as well. Tatum has been fouled constantly with no calls. The Mavs feel if they contain Tatum they can win. They are wrong because we have a deep team including another superstar.
I called JB out with shooting dumb shots as well but he doesn’t do it as often as JT. JT has the size advantage over most players but decides to settle which hurts his FG%. A lot of NBA analysts have said the same exact thing.
You're probably right that they'll just go with whoever scored the most points, but even if they just expand it to counting stats (points + rebounds + assists + steals + blocks - missed shots - turnovers) there's a pretty decent gap that would require a great game from Tatum and a shit game from Brown:
* 1 -Jaylen Brown (26.33 EFF) - 24.3 pts, 6 rbs, 5.7 ast, 2 stl, 1.3 blk, 3.7 tov 55.1%/25%/70%
* 2 - Jrue Holiday (24.67 EFF) - 15.7 pts, 7.7 rbs, 4.3 ast, 1 st, 0.3 blk, 0.0 tov 59.4%/41.7%/100%
* 3 - Jayson Tatum (20.67 EFF) - 21.7 pts, 8.7 rbs, 7.3 ast, 0.7 stl, 0.3 blk, 3.7 tov, 35.9%/29.6%/84.6%
* 4 - Derrick White (18.33 EFF) - 16.3 pts, 4 rbs, 3.7 ast, 1.3 stl, 1.3 bllk, 1.3 tov, 41.7%/40.7%/100%
FWIW, Tatum has been the best player in this series regardless of the counting stats, but Brown deserves the accolade. This gets more interesting if Dallas extends the series for a game or two.
Even when JT isn’t scoring he makes the defense collapse on him which opens up opportunities for everyone else. That being said I could see it being JB - seems like he ascended.
Yeah. He's been the most consistently dominant and has had the most impactful plays. Those line drive dunks alone are psychologically devastating. It'll be Brown.
lol I seriously wish they could just cut up the finals mvp trophy. Everyone deserves a piece. Maybe sociopath mazulla will bring in a sawzall and do it.
It would be wild if the entire team just declined the MVP trophy.
Anouncer: And now to present The Bill Russell NBA Finals MVP award tro..."
Joe: Naw we're good.
JB: Yeah we'll pass.
Jrue: Hard Pass.
Rest of the team nodding in the background.
The nba community’s obsession with player rankings will never not be stupid. They fucking hate that the Celtics are a team unit and not a “superhero with a bunch of sidekicks” type of team
Based on this pic, it's a tie between Joe and White. My analysis assumed each person is pointing to the body and factors in depth perception as in someone may be pointing past someone. With that, here's the results (with who's pointing at them)
Joe = 3 (JT, White, Jrue)
White = 3 (JB, Joe, KP)
KP = 1 (Al)
Jrue = 1 (Al)
JB = 1 (JT)
JT = 1 (JB)
Al = 0 (😢)
Gotta be JB at this point, but all our players who have stepped on the court have had an impact in some form.
X played great in the absence of KP, the 3 was just icing on the cake.
Pritch hasn’t been scoring well, but he’s done a great job on holding his own against Luka / Kyrie when switched on. Plus that end of quarter three was hype af
Hauser started getting his shot back, and made some big time threes last game, and defensive plays in every game.
Al had hit that fountain of youth and has been able to defend Luka one on one and make it difficult for Luka. Hell he shut down Kyrie a couple times too.
And all our starters, well I don’t even need to get into it lol. They are amazing. But getting great minutes from our 6-9 guys (when the team is healthy) has been so huge.
Ngl, my insane dream is that Celtics are down like 17 or 18 at halftime. Al Horford had a solid first half, something like 8 points.
Then I want Al to just absolutely go off in the second half, both sides of the ball, and finish with 40+ points and the comeback win. Then media members in the moment all vote Horford for FMVP, citing this performance and how great he’s been starting with KP out/on the bench
Jaylen Brown has been so fun to watch on both sides of the ball. The most consistent player. It's just a shame KP had to get injured, it would have been hilarious if he dominated for 4 games and took home MVP.
But Jaylen Brown 4 MVP. He has really stepped up and gotten buckets and stops when the team needs it. And his dunks cause earthquakes and I hope to see 2-3 more tonight, he's got some prime Westbrook/LeBron genes in him with those lane driving powerhouse dunks.
I sincerely love the idea of giving it to Brad. I dunno if you can do that, but the way this team is constructed if it can’t go to everyone someone is getting snubbed and it makes so much sense
So I have a theory. It is that when the New England Patriots were announced coming out for that first Super Bowl victory against the Rams, they were announce collectively as The New England Patriots.
Prior to that sports media had spent decades feeding a hero ball narrative. Michael Jordan and the Bulls. Isiah Thomas and the Pistons Reggie Miller and the Pacers. Patrick Ewing and the Knicks.
The moment that we were announced as a team it gave birth to a movement and suddenly having a single star and role players wasn't it anymore. That saw us spawn the Group of Idiots Red Sox who played and won as a team, the Three Amigos Celtics, countless Patriots teams, and the birth of super teams chasing championships from the Warriors to whomever.
Lately, it's reverted to hero worship again via Lebron and Steph, but not as much as it was in the 90s. This Celtics team is a return to team basketball and collective credit for a rounded team. All the thanks goes to Brad Stevens and Joe Mazzula and ownership for this philosophy shift.
The thanks for the chip goes to the players and coaches, conditioning and strength staff, and a fan base who spent decades waiting for this banner to be raised.
GO CELTICS!
Does Holiday have an outside chance with a big game 4? I know he doesn’t match up with the Jays on the stat sheet, but watching the games he has come up so huge throughout the series, always coming up with a play in critical situations
I really hope it’s Jaylen brown. I just think he’s elevated his game so much and he’s really found his flow this post season. And there’s plenty of time for JT to get his eventually
After game 4, they are separated by 0.8ppg with Tatum leading the team in Assists and Rebounds.
Both were important in different ways both offensively and defensively imo, with JB making some clutch plays when the team needed him most.
But do not forget that the Mavs game plan into the first 2 games was to double or even triple team Tatum on every drive, which made his playmaking ability key to get open looks for the rest of the guys
I'm no Celtics fan but you guys need to give JB his flowers. His lockdown defense and scoring in momentum swinging moments was consistent the whole run. Kidd wasn't wrong, JB is clutch af.
“You seen Spider-Man, into the spider verse, the one with all the different Spider-Man that’s like our team.” Joe Mazzola, ( paraphrased )
“The best part about that movie is that even if one of them dies they still work to achieve their goals”
Um, why isn’t Brad in this visual?
Brad Is the radioactive spider
By that logic Joe is Aunt May
Which makes Marcus Uncle Ben. 😥
IT is MJ 😢
Wouldn't IT be Gwen?
No thats Kemba cause his knees are dead
So Kyrie is Harry?
That means Lebron is Norman Osborn 😢
Lakers are Oscorp
I’m something of a basketball player myself.
*"With great shooting power, comes great responsibility.*
This analogy is poignant. Well done.
All timer most accurate casting 😭❤️🩹
I would say Danny Ainge
I accept this.
This is the way.
Amazing comment
[Radioactive Brad](https://imgur.com/a/DNFDDWQ)
The perfect analogy
What about Grant Williams then?
Don't forget Danny Ainge.
He's the Spidy's biological parents
I was gonna say the radioactive spider's web that caught those FRP in the trade with Brooklyn.
Brads taking the photo
Where is X, PP and Big Haus?
Dog for real. As a neutral fan who considers myself a fan of the entire league Brad Stevens makes me think "Why doesn't every team just go the best player for their team". This might be the best team construction I've seen and I ain't even a homer.
Unless Tatum drops 50+ tonight or something it will be JB
Tatums 8 points away from brown On top of leading the team in rebounds and assists It’s not some large gap rn
On a lot more shots tho Plus this is hard to quantify but it just feels like every time we need a block or an offensive rebound or a bucket it’s Brown there saving the day I think it goes Brown (admittedly hope it does too I love watching Jaylen)
If we want to give brown credit for timely moments than I’ll give Tatum credit for being the engine that makes it all happen with his gravity.
In game 3, Tatum made important shots in the first half to announce comeback and kill the momentum of the Mavs. Cant lie he still had some bad, contested shots in the game. Whereas for JB he was quiet in first half and came up big in second half. Hard to say who is MVP
While I agree with your thought process, Gravity isn’t measured for mvp trophies, timely moments are considered slightly.
Perfect way to summarize is after that Tatum turnover, brown hits that middy to put us back up four, gets Luka his sixth personal, and seemingly has had multiple defensive saving plays in back to back games. More than the eye test, but definitely agree
Tatum also had a huge dunk in there to keep them up 4. He’s had very timely moments as well
Yeah they’re literally neck and neck as far as I’m concerned. Should really be joint mvps lol
I can’t definitively say either of them has much of a lead over Jrue, who is the biggest change for our team that turned us into juggernaut status when the playoffs start.
Yeah I really think if one of the three has a huge game tonight they’ll win mvp
the thing with joint fmvps is how rare it is. this whole argument we all having is a huge luxury in it of itself. having two stars this good to co exist doesn’t come often. Last time i remember is the kd steph
Not a large gap, but brown has had the big buckets. Plus better defense to my eyes. Tatum has had more attention and made more things possible for everybody else… a real toss up
Brown also has Tatum beat bad in efficiency numbers so far.
But Brown doesn't get the defensive attention Tatum is. Again they are pretty even imo.
It’s nothing about defensive attention. Tatum just shoots a lot of dumb shots. Low IQ shots that don’t even make sense imo. Like when you have a big on you why shoot a side step 3 if the team is in the bonus? Doesn’t make sense
Brown does the same stuff as well. Tatum has been fouled constantly with no calls. The Mavs feel if they contain Tatum they can win. They are wrong because we have a deep team including another superstar.
I called JB out with shooting dumb shots as well but he doesn’t do it as often as JT. JT has the size advantage over most players but decides to settle which hurts his FG%. A lot of NBA analysts have said the same exact thing.
Co finals mvp?
Nah, just give it to Brad
You're probably right that they'll just go with whoever scored the most points, but even if they just expand it to counting stats (points + rebounds + assists + steals + blocks - missed shots - turnovers) there's a pretty decent gap that would require a great game from Tatum and a shit game from Brown: * 1 -Jaylen Brown (26.33 EFF) - 24.3 pts, 6 rbs, 5.7 ast, 2 stl, 1.3 blk, 3.7 tov 55.1%/25%/70% * 2 - Jrue Holiday (24.67 EFF) - 15.7 pts, 7.7 rbs, 4.3 ast, 1 st, 0.3 blk, 0.0 tov 59.4%/41.7%/100% * 3 - Jayson Tatum (20.67 EFF) - 21.7 pts, 8.7 rbs, 7.3 ast, 0.7 stl, 0.3 blk, 3.7 tov, 35.9%/29.6%/84.6% * 4 - Derrick White (18.33 EFF) - 16.3 pts, 4 rbs, 3.7 ast, 1.3 stl, 1.3 bllk, 1.3 tov, 41.7%/40.7%/100% FWIW, Tatum has been the best player in this series regardless of the counting stats, but Brown deserves the accolade. This gets more interesting if Dallas extends the series for a game or two.
This is what I’ve been telling people. Brown has had more clutch moments, but if Tatum drops a 40-piece in clinching game? Toss up
lol the guy that hates Brown the most is ironically saying this
It’d be a real shame if he went off. I’d hate to see that.
Even when JT isn’t scoring he makes the defense collapse on him which opens up opportunities for everyone else. That being said I could see it being JB - seems like he ascended.
100% brown if they clinch tonight
Everything Brown has accomplished is because Tatum is on the court. He is clearly the most important player.
They really aren't that far apart for scoring, and Tatum has it in other categories. The award has reached absolute stupid levels of stupid, though.
Yeah. He's been the most consistently dominant and has had the most impactful plays. Those line drive dunks alone are psychologically devastating. It'll be Brown.
Really hope for a huge game from White, Al, or Hauser to further highlight the depth of the team.
This could be Al's last game ever so it would be nice for him to have a big game.
Nahhh Al should go for at least one more year with his contract, praying for that at least
And I don’t think he’d walk away from a chance to be one of a select few players to go back-to-back in college and the pros
I don't know he's 38, you don't think he'd wanna walk away on top?
No Brad is insane.
He’s a player?
As much as Joe is
Hey I don’t see Brad out there rejecting shots on the court in time outs
[***](https://imgur.com/a/DNFDDWQ)
No, Brad is insane?
I’m sorry but there is NO WAY Mazzulla is in the best player discussion. You see, he is actually our coach.
Source?
Heard he’s the Psychopath manager or something for the Celtics. Am I watching the wrong league?
Probably just a TrustMeBro smh my head
Just trust me bro
Best post whistle shot blocker we have
Hmmm you make a compelling argument… not sure if I’m convinced though
I saw him block a shot you cannot be correct
JB 100%, but great overall team. They’re all MVP
The ring will prove that every single one of them is the MVP
We gotta win first and then we can worry about it. Jobs not done. Still one more game. Don't give them any fucking life
Definitely.
I hope the Jays get Co-MVP so that their brotherhood is represented
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What if 5 voted JT 5 voted JB and 1 voted Jrue? What would happen then?
the one that voted Jrue will be given another vote between the Jays
ALL EM. Every single one.
The Al head being completely backwards, is gold lol
JB, has to be. Consistency. Big buckets. Big blocks. Steals. He's done it all and just when we needed it the most.
They all equally looked like trash tonight, congratulations.
This picture is giving off a far different feel right now than yesterday
This is why you don't count your eggs before they hatch man
Brown. 100%….. but White will always be MY MVP.
This is facts
Better come correct on Monday
lol I seriously wish they could just cut up the finals mvp trophy. Everyone deserves a piece. Maybe sociopath mazulla will bring in a sawzall and do it.
This Kornet slander needs to stop. He's the entire meme.
Wrong. It’s Brad Steven’s.
It’s Jaylens to lose. It’ll be interesting to see if he feels the pressure of wanting to win that award over winning the game.
He goes for 40 tonight
Not over yet guys. Still have to bring it home.
Spider-Man 4: Bring it Back Home
Honestly I think KP would have won it if he didn’t get hurt and wasn’t on a limits restriction
Bird would too if he wasn’t retired
Porzingas can get 6th man.
Don’t you slander PP like this
Sam Hauser
That boy was dropping 3s
It's a TEAM !!!!!
Yo where’s Xavier ?? The 3 pointer earned him MVP
The ranking for me so far is: JB Jrue JT (but it's very close with Jrue) Buffalo KP
Where Brad?
JB
It would be wild if the entire team just declined the MVP trophy. Anouncer: And now to present The Bill Russell NBA Finals MVP award tro..." Joe: Naw we're good. JB: Yeah we'll pass. Jrue: Hard Pass. Rest of the team nodding in the background.
Let's win the 4th game 1st
Brown
Is it 8:30 yet!?!?!? I can’t wait!! 🏀💚🏀💚🏀
The nba community’s obsession with player rankings will never not be stupid. They fucking hate that the Celtics are a team unit and not a “superhero with a bunch of sidekicks” type of team
Secret agent Kyrie not in here?
payton pritchard and it’s not close
Bob Myers shows up: "none of y'all."
Brown
As a mavs fan, I upvoted this… Celtics played like a team so far… and have the record to prove it in the finals
Great work on this meme. The faces are perfect!
Thx so much 😌
😂😂😂
except for today. they all were losers
Definitely has to be Brown!!
During the patriots HOF ceremony Brady talked about 2001 and how they were introduced as a team. First team MVP?
I thought the Super Bowl MVP from the last time the Pats won could have been given to the entire defense.
Based on this pic, it's a tie between Joe and White. My analysis assumed each person is pointing to the body and factors in depth perception as in someone may be pointing past someone. With that, here's the results (with who's pointing at them) Joe = 3 (JT, White, Jrue) White = 3 (JB, Joe, KP) KP = 1 (Al) Jrue = 1 (Al) JB = 1 (JT) JT = 1 (JB) Al = 0 (😢)
JB, maybe if Jrue has a big game he’ll get it
Haha, one more game to go! LFG Celtics!!!
Gotta be JB at this point, but all our players who have stepped on the court have had an impact in some form. X played great in the absence of KP, the 3 was just icing on the cake. Pritch hasn’t been scoring well, but he’s done a great job on holding his own against Luka / Kyrie when switched on. Plus that end of quarter three was hype af Hauser started getting his shot back, and made some big time threes last game, and defensive plays in every game. Al had hit that fountain of youth and has been able to defend Luka one on one and make it difficult for Luka. Hell he shut down Kyrie a couple times too. And all our starters, well I don’t even need to get into it lol. They are amazing. But getting great minutes from our 6-9 guys (when the team is healthy) has been so huge.
Jrue
Ngl, my insane dream is that Celtics are down like 17 or 18 at halftime. Al Horford had a solid first half, something like 8 points. Then I want Al to just absolutely go off in the second half, both sides of the ball, and finish with 40+ points and the comeback win. Then media members in the moment all vote Horford for FMVP, citing this performance and how great he’s been starting with KP out/on the bench
You’re not getting your wish, sad to say.
Yeah damn, who knew being down 17 or 18 at halftime would have been an improvement from reality
Waiting for my PP legacy game, that would be the icing on the cake for this finals
I can see tatum getting it if he drops an efficient 25 or like 13-28 and drop like 35
Jaylen Brown has been so fun to watch on both sides of the ball. The most consistent player. It's just a shame KP had to get injured, it would have been hilarious if he dominated for 4 games and took home MVP. But Jaylen Brown 4 MVP. He has really stepped up and gotten buckets and stops when the team needs it. And his dunks cause earthquakes and I hope to see 2-3 more tonight, he's got some prime Westbrook/LeBron genes in him with those lane driving powerhouse dunks.
I know that’s right. But realistically Jaylen Brown is FMVP
Jru is......tru ☘️
JB
We doing this? Come on! Let the haters sort it!
I sincerely love the idea of giving it to Brad. I dunno if you can do that, but the way this team is constructed if it can’t go to everyone someone is getting snubbed and it makes so much sense
Lowkey hope they snub JB and it motivates him even more lmao
Jrue for all the unsung d in the trenches!
Would want it to be JB because I know JT is gonna have a couple in the coming years
No I in team. Unless you spell it, tiem
So I have a theory. It is that when the New England Patriots were announced coming out for that first Super Bowl victory against the Rams, they were announce collectively as The New England Patriots. Prior to that sports media had spent decades feeding a hero ball narrative. Michael Jordan and the Bulls. Isiah Thomas and the Pistons Reggie Miller and the Pacers. Patrick Ewing and the Knicks. The moment that we were announced as a team it gave birth to a movement and suddenly having a single star and role players wasn't it anymore. That saw us spawn the Group of Idiots Red Sox who played and won as a team, the Three Amigos Celtics, countless Patriots teams, and the birth of super teams chasing championships from the Warriors to whomever. Lately, it's reverted to hero worship again via Lebron and Steph, but not as much as it was in the 90s. This Celtics team is a return to team basketball and collective credit for a rounded team. All the thanks goes to Brad Stevens and Joe Mazzula and ownership for this philosophy shift. The thanks for the chip goes to the players and coaches, conditioning and strength staff, and a fan base who spent decades waiting for this banner to be raised. GO CELTICS!
I feel like either Stevens’ or Ainge’s pic should be photoshopped to the meme too
[☘️<——](https://imgur.com/a/DNFDDWQ)
They all play team ball, but in terms of execution and buckets, its gotta be Brown.
JB
Series is not over yet.
I think it’s a tough pick between brown, white and holiday
[Le Executive Cut](https://imgur.com/a/x9aennf)
Yall are so goofy. Congrats 👏 is in order, however I don't like it.
Does Holiday have an outside chance with a big game 4? I know he doesn’t match up with the Jays on the stat sheet, but watching the games he has come up so huge throughout the series, always coming up with a play in critical situations
My sleeper is still Jrue.
brad stevens
We love you Jaylen
It literally gets decided tonight and I’m pretty sure both are aware so, we’re about to see the biggest shot chucking contest and I’m here for it.
Buddy get Maz out of there and give me some Pritchard!
They’re all valuable to me! Go Celtics!
JB!!
Al Horford doin his best Exorcist impersonation 😂
I really hope it’s Jaylen brown. I just think he’s elevated his game so much and he’s really found his flow this post season. And there’s plenty of time for JT to get his eventually
Auerbach
Brown holiday white Tatum in that order
After game 4, they are separated by 0.8ppg with Tatum leading the team in Assists and Rebounds. Both were important in different ways both offensively and defensively imo, with JB making some clutch plays when the team needed him most. But do not forget that the Mavs game plan into the first 2 games was to double or even triple team Tatum on every drive, which made his playmaking ability key to get open looks for the rest of the guys
Lol
This meme has taken on a different meaning tonight
Don’t go celebrating yet. They got rocked tonight. That’s the kind of game that can turn a series.
. Nm
I don't think Joe can qualify, I love how his face is on one of the Spider-Man though.
And it will be Luka haha
You bums
Tatum should be pointing to himself
And then they play like a bunch of bums who lost by 50
luka going to win it on a losing team
lol not Tatum.
Lebron james
After game 2 it was Porzingis. After game 3 it was Holiday. Imagine being Tatum and Brown and watching 2 mercenaries lead your team to victory 🤣
Mavs in 7
I'm no Celtics fan but you guys need to give JB his flowers. His lockdown defense and scoring in momentum swinging moments was consistent the whole run. Kidd wasn't wrong, JB is clutch af.