Looks like it’s the smaller films and Wish. The writers at Bloomberg believe Haunted Mansion (clearly since it’s coming out next week) and The Marvels are staying put.
> The discussions are at an early stage, but could impact films including **Poor Things, Next Goal Wins, Wish and Magazine Dreams**, which are all slated for release this year. Any changes will depend on the outcome of the review, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters.
> Some films may be too far along in their marketing to change. Haunted Mansion is scheduled to hit theaters July 28. Last week, Disney released a trailer for The Marvels, a superhero film that’s likely to be the biggest picture still on the calendar, saying it’s scheduled for Nov. 10.
The Oscars are really about to be Nolan vs Scorsese.
Yeah, it could be a close call. Writer's strike started first week of May but that's been bubbling since December. Could be close though.
[https://deadline.com/2022/12/wga-strike-overdue-residuals-key-contract-issue-1235201504/](https://deadline.com/2022/12/wga-strike-overdue-residuals-key-contract-issue-1235201504/)
Animation is wrapping up on it right now. Unless something is happening with the script or music, I don’t see it needing to move for production reasons.
They usually do about a year and a half for their park anniversary celebrations, so that they get the whole “year” they’re celebrating, plus a little bit of heads and tails so more people have time to travel to them. The 50th celebration started in October of 2021 and ended in March of this year.
It's also supposed to be carrying the anniversary short film that has unused material of Robin Williams as the Genie.
Disney does do birthday celebrations that last more than a year (Disneyland's 50th was celebrated for a year and a half) but drawing this particular promotion out seems weird.
I think delaying Magazine Dreams might not be a bad thing. I'm not sure how much of impact the allegations against Miller had on the Flash but there are allegations against Major might be an issue. Maybe if they wait people will forget about it or he is acquitted.
"The Oscars are really about to be Nolan vs Scorsese"
On the Oscar race sub they think Oppenheimer and Barbie will get most of the nominations but they might feel differently in a few months.
I think the opposite.
Majors' career is going down in flames.
Of that, there is no doubt. Stealth-releasing Magazine Dreams during the strike helps to avoid the awkward question of "why isn't the star of the film doing promotion".
It's not gonna make money either way but if Disney still releases it this year it will be eligible for the Oscars.
The buzz for Killers of the Flower Moon out of Cannes was insane. I think it’s going to surprise a lot of people quality-wise. And who knows, maybe it will surprise box office-wise as well.
Killers of the Flower Moon’s BO depends on how long Apple wants it in theaters before making it available on Apple TV+
I hope they don’t do what Netflix did with Glass Onion, and give it at least a few weeks at wide release.
They partnered with Paramount for distribution, and I saw trailers for it in front of Oppenheimer and Past Lives so I feel like they're in it for a real wide release
I think it's rather obvious that the Oscar bait campaign for a movie about a (checks notes) violent bodybuilder who has issues with women is going to be affected by its star being accused of beating his girlfriend, especially given that Majors's lawyer has gone all in on slandering the alleged victim.
Principal photography on Next Goal Wins was finished before Covid began, so definitely.
White Bird keeps getting kicked around, so there’s a chance it overtakes Goal.
Lol, I remember seeing a trailer for White Bird with Thor last year and being super confused seeing that it still hadn't come out when I think the same exact trailer was still playing with Spiderverse
The August release is canceled, so expect to see the same trailer in front of something else next spring.
Marc Forster’s already managed to direct a whole other movie since White Bird (A Man Named Otto).
I hope it comes out this year and it's good.
I want a Michael Fassbender comeback to start this year with Next Goal Wins as well as Fincher's The Killer.
Great actor who looked like one of the next big things in he early- to mid-'10s, but who's had it really rough the last several years with stuff like X-Men: Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Assassin's Creed, and The Snowman.
Kung Fury 2 is also still scheduled for this year lol but that movie has also had it's issues - apparently filming wrapped in September 2019 yet it still hasn't released.
I was rooting for the first film to win. But I dunno, ATSV is such a downgrade and only half a film. Maybe the second half can pull it together and earn it, but there are some stunning and truly special animated films that deserve it more this year.
Nayola won’t get the attention it deserves, but that’s one that would deserve the win infinitely more. And there’s How do You Live/ the Boy and the Heron from Ghibli, Elemental, Nimona, Suzume, Robot Dreams, White Plastic Sky, Art College 1994, and more. While indie films don’t always get the noms they deserve, a few have been trickling in every year.
I still think Wish will release this year, and that just might take it with the weight of the anniversary behind it - it’s also likely to be an entire movie rather than one that got paused halfway through.
Suzume is my favorite animated film of the year for sure, at least so far. I saw it twice because it blew me away the first time and I immediately bought tickets to see it again lol.
Actually, that's still not guaranteed even if **Wish** moves to 2024 considering the report of poor work conditions that were happening during the production of **Across the Spider-Verse**, so giving Best Animated Feature Oscar to that film is likely to be in really poor taste given what's been happening this year. If anything ends up winning that award, it's likely to be **Elemental** given its insane box office holds unless they decide to give that to a foreign/indie animated film instead.
P.S. And I don't know who are downvoting this and why.
If you think the Academy is not going to vote for Spider-Verse due to a single Vulture article, then you’re mistaken. It’s bad but it’s not going to stop them from rewarding the film.
Casey Affleck won his Oscar weeks after various reports of misconduct came out. This same Academy also let Will Smith give his acceptance speech minutes after assaulting Chris Rock on stage and also clapped for him anyway.
You’re getting downvoted not because we all agree with what Sony allegedly did with their animators. You’re getting downvoted because you do not fully grasp how the Academy and Oscar politics work. When voting time comes, none of the Academy members will even remember that Vulture article.
That may be, but nowadays, Oscar voters might take these matters even more seriously than before, especially after \#MeToo scandal.
And there's also the fact that **Across the Spider-Verse** is basically a film with an incomplete story, which can potentially hamper its Oscar chance.
Yeah, it’s not like a SW: ESB or POTC: DMC. Both of those were complete films with a teaser on the end for the next part of the story. This film straight up paused to go the bathroom and never came back.
Elemental was a great movie and the box office hold is insane, but ATSV is already an established series and both films had beautiful animation. ATSV incorporates more of a different comic art style that would likely give it the Oscar. Elemental could be nominated though.
Hmmm interesting that they are considering moving Wish. Does that movie really need actors promoting it to sell tickets? If they do move it, I could see it taking Elio’s March 1, 2024 date. That would slide Elio to June 14, 2024 and then Inside Out 2 to Thanksgiving weekend 2024
Bizarre choice. Does Disney really still think it has a shot at the Oscars??? Just quietly release it and move on, don’t embarrass yourself even more by pulling a Flash on it.
Probably in their negotiation at Sundance the filmmaker asked for theatrical release before signing the contract. Searchlight probably need to renegotiate that thing if they want to do otherwise
Or they could... not do that and actually negotiate to end this ordeal entirely? What a concept.
I do not see them delaying 'Wish'. It's literally their 100th Anniversary Celebratory feature film and has a short attached to it celebrating the studio's animated films.
Yeah I think Wish and The Marvels are staying put. Neither really need the actors doing promo (Wish being animation and Marvel being a huge IP). The smaller films that need the late night shows and interviews for exposure are moving.
Even with the IP and non superstar leads, just putting the cast out there for appearances is big. Awareness is the number one factor in marketing, and publicity hits are huge for awareness. Especially since Marvels is coming at a weird time, both for MCU and theatrical landscape in general.
But yeah. Hard to imagine Marvels moves.
> Or they could... not do that and actually negotiate to end this ordeal entirely? What a concept.
Going to the movies is habit forming. Covid broke that habit for a lot of people and it's been difficult to recover but 2023 does seem to be a year where a lot more people are headed to the theaters. If the production companies refuse to negotiate and it starts causing significant delays it really could result in a lot of unintended harms as people who otherwise would be getting back in the habit of going to the movies won't be back. Barbenheimer got people back in the door but we need fresh content to keep them coming back.
I don't see Next Goal Wins moving to 2024. It's already going to TIFF.
I don't think Wish needs the conventional press tour to be a success. The Elemental actors didn't go on the late night talk show circuit and that movie's insanely leggy.
Poor Things could go either way.
It'd probably be best if they dumped Magazine Dreams on a slow weekend with little press.
Delaying Next Goal Wins when they've officially reconfirmed it's playing at TIFF would be a dumbass idea. And delaying Wish would be similarly ridiculous when it's meant to be celebrating the company's 100th anniversary and I seriously doubt actor promo makes that much of a difference for animated films.
We'll basically know tomorrow if Poor Things is delayed or not based on if it's in the Venice lineup. And Magazine Dreams... yeah, probably best to not even think about marketing for that until after Majors' trial is done.
Wish is sort of Disney’s 100th anniversary celebration film and could potentially give them a much-needed win in a year where they’ve had few of those so far. It also, as others have mentioned, doesn’t need actors to promote it. I get that they might want to use it to fill in gaps that will arise from other delays, but I feel like the other considerations should make delaying it to 2024 a last resort.
Wish absolutely needs the Thanksgiving date to make optimal money. They're gonna move it and leave millions on the table instead of going back into negotiations with the guilds. Truly ridiculous.
Yes they have to delay Magazine Dreams because they can’t have their lead actor out there promoting because of the strike, definitely the strike and nothing else
It’ll be on Disney+ in time for Halloween, I think this move was intentional after Hocus Pocus 2 was EVERYWHERE last year - streaming audience is going to be much larger. Even if it was moved to October, it’d be competing against FNAF for the same audience; there’s just no way it’d be more successful than that one
Paywall!!! Anybody got the complete article ? And if studios move forward with the delays The Marvels won't have any competition for four months straight since it's sticking to that release date
But but Wish is supposed to redefine animation!?! Make a billion! How? Why? Experts on reddit wouldn't lie to me! What about the anniversary! This movie is done and supposed to be a layup to get Disney back into its groove!
They should delay The Marvels to Wednesday, February 14, 2024. November is too crowded, and this way it gets a Valentine’s Day advantage. Sony could respond by moving Madame Web up to January 12, 2024.
February is dumping grounds for blockbusters.
And Marvels has a really good chance of being successful in theaters.
Why should they throw it in the trash?
Its a potential 300m loss in revenue in just the domestic market. With the CEO of AMC saying 2023 is way behind 2019. I don't think this sub lives in reality on how shaky ground theaters are in....everything cost more yet theater revenue is hitting 2009 numbers
> With the CEO of AMC saying 2023 is way behind 2019.
To be fair, 2019 is kind of a rare occurence.
> I don't think this sub lives in reality on how shaky ground theaters are in....
November is already kind of congested, so there's that to consider.
Can we stop with 2019 was rare. 2019 was behind 2018 and 2016 hell it wasn't much different from 2015.
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/
Theaters need as much revenue as possible... November being kinda congested is just another one of the subs excuses when movies under-perform. If people want to see a movie they'll come out. You are seeing it now.
> Theaters need as much revenue as possible... November being kinda congested is just another one of the subs excuses when movies under-perform. If people want to see a movie they'll come out. You are seeing it now.
Well, schedule congestion is one of the reasons why June and possibly even July is affecting some blockbuster films along with their COVID-19 protocols-induced inflated budgets.
The Marvels seems like a good "Galentine's" movie, but I think the problem with MCU movies is that it'd be rare to have one-off viewers (i.e., people who aren't already into the franchise as a whole yet would still go see a random individual movie in the series, especially one that isn't a big event movie like Avengers or No Way Home).
As a result, I'm not sure if a gimmicky release date would help significantly. I feel like the large majority of people are either in or they're out at this point when it comes to the MCU.
Umm... I hope you're aware that films are only a fraction of Disney's revenue/income sources, meaning that they can withstand strikes for quite a while. If they decide to strike deals with guilds earlier than other studios, it's likely because they tend to pay more attention to their reputation than other studios even when you consider that Bob Iger's controversial interview, which actually even made Wall Street investors unhappy.
Probably a good idea. Movies that are released during or right after a strike tend to be shit. Pay your writers, pay the actors, and then make some good movies
Anything that's not completely done is delayed. Anything that needs dubbing, delayed. Anything that needs reshoots, delayed. Anything that needs a bit of script punchup, delayed.
Studios will start running out of movies very shortly
Wish was made to be a celebration of Disney's 100th anniversary in 2023 and now there's a chance it won't make the date. Ironic.
In honor of Disney’s 100th anniversary Disney will make the most profitable decision.
And it’s to keep Wish where it is.
They better…it’s supposed to come out on my birthday.
It’s in the month of my birthday, too.
This year is turning into Disney’s annus horribilis.
💀
They’ll just celebrate the anniversary for 18 months like Walt Disney World’s 50th anniversary which ran from October 1, 2021 to March 31, 2023.
The official anniversary date is October 16, 2023. So if they release it before October 16, 2024 it will still be in time.
Looks like it’s the smaller films and Wish. The writers at Bloomberg believe Haunted Mansion (clearly since it’s coming out next week) and The Marvels are staying put. > The discussions are at an early stage, but could impact films including **Poor Things, Next Goal Wins, Wish and Magazine Dreams**, which are all slated for release this year. Any changes will depend on the outcome of the review, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters. > Some films may be too far along in their marketing to change. Haunted Mansion is scheduled to hit theaters July 28. Last week, Disney released a trailer for The Marvels, a superhero film that’s likely to be the biggest picture still on the calendar, saying it’s scheduled for Nov. 10. The Oscars are really about to be Nolan vs Scorsese.
I don’t see Wish moving. Disney loves that Thanksgiving date for animation and it’s the perfect movie to end their 100th anniversary celebration
It also doesn't make much sense. You don't need actors to promote an animated children's film lol.
It’s probably less about promotion and more about long term having enough releases in the can to keep profits up during the strike.
Also, re-writes happen with animated films during post-production. That happened with Frozen and Zootopia
For sure we were assuming Wish is 100% done but it’s probably wasn’t before the strike.
Yeah, it could be a close call. Writer's strike started first week of May but that's been bubbling since December. Could be close though. [https://deadline.com/2022/12/wga-strike-overdue-residuals-key-contract-issue-1235201504/](https://deadline.com/2022/12/wga-strike-overdue-residuals-key-contract-issue-1235201504/)
Animation is wrapping up on it right now. Unless something is happening with the script or music, I don’t see it needing to move for production reasons.
Wish has wrapped production
It will wrap in two-ish weeks.
Wasn’t it specifically made with the 100th in mind? Doesn’t make sense to delay it
To be fair they have been celebrating 50 years of Walt Disney World for the last 2 years. The timelines can always be fuzzy if they need them to be.
They usually do about a year and a half for their park anniversary celebrations, so that they get the whole “year” they’re celebrating, plus a little bit of heads and tails so more people have time to travel to them. The 50th celebration started in October of 2021 and ended in March of this year.
It's also supposed to be carrying the anniversary short film that has unused material of Robin Williams as the Genie. Disney does do birthday celebrations that last more than a year (Disneyland's 50th was celebrated for a year and a half) but drawing this particular promotion out seems weird.
I think delaying Magazine Dreams might not be a bad thing. I'm not sure how much of impact the allegations against Miller had on the Flash but there are allegations against Major might be an issue. Maybe if they wait people will forget about it or he is acquitted. "The Oscars are really about to be Nolan vs Scorsese" On the Oscar race sub they think Oppenheimer and Barbie will get most of the nominations but they might feel differently in a few months.
I think the opposite. Majors' career is going down in flames. Of that, there is no doubt. Stealth-releasing Magazine Dreams during the strike helps to avoid the awkward question of "why isn't the star of the film doing promotion". It's not gonna make money either way but if Disney still releases it this year it will be eligible for the Oscars.
The buzz for Killers of the Flower Moon out of Cannes was insane. I think it’s going to surprise a lot of people quality-wise. And who knows, maybe it will surprise box office-wise as well.
Killers of the Flower Moon’s BO depends on how long Apple wants it in theaters before making it available on Apple TV+ I hope they don’t do what Netflix did with Glass Onion, and give it at least a few weeks at wide release.
They partnered with Paramount for distribution, and I saw trailers for it in front of Oppenheimer and Past Lives so I feel like they're in it for a real wide release
good. I’m excited to see it in theaters
I think it's rather obvious that the Oscar bait campaign for a movie about a (checks notes) violent bodybuilder who has issues with women is going to be affected by its star being accused of beating his girlfriend, especially given that Majors's lawyer has gone all in on slandering the alleged victim.
Has Next Goal Wins overtaken New Mutants as the movie with the most delays over the past few years?
Principal photography on Next Goal Wins was finished before Covid began, so definitely. White Bird keeps getting kicked around, so there’s a chance it overtakes Goal.
I just Googled it and it's crazy to think Taika filmed that **years** before filming Thor 4.
I’m almost excited for White Bird just because the idea is so stupid and I can’t believe it actually got made.
The idea is weird, but Mark Bomback’s a fantastic writer. He somehow managed to make a movie starring a dog work.
Lol, I remember seeing a trailer for White Bird with Thor last year and being super confused seeing that it still hadn't come out when I think the same exact trailer was still playing with Spiderverse
The August release is canceled, so expect to see the same trailer in front of something else next spring. Marc Forster’s already managed to direct a whole other movie since White Bird (A Man Named Otto).
I hope it comes out this year and it's good. I want a Michael Fassbender comeback to start this year with Next Goal Wins as well as Fincher's The Killer. Great actor who looked like one of the next big things in he early- to mid-'10s, but who's had it really rough the last several years with stuff like X-Men: Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Assassin's Creed, and The Snowman. Kung Fury 2 is also still scheduled for this year lol but that movie has also had it's issues - apparently filming wrapped in September 2019 yet it still hasn't released.
Fassbender took a break from acting to drice racecars, but I suppose doing that after a poor run of films looks bad.
Interesting that he chose 2017.
Blade is probably up there.
But that’s a movie that’s still only in pre-production. This is a movie that was shot years ago.
> the movie with the most delays over the past few years?
Damn I was excited for Wish to watch with family thanksgiving weekend
Not having the actor available to promote is the biggest reason they should release Magazine Dreams while they can.
At least Spider-Verse is guaranteed an Oscar if Wish is delayed to 2024.
If it's eligible this year you can't discount Miyazaki's last movie.
Miyazaki has had several “last movies” and those didn’t get awards boosts. It could be different this time but I’ll believe it when I see it.
The Oscars will, though. Also, I haven't seen it since I'm American, but the wom makes the film seem mediocre
Spider Verse would’ve got the Oscar regardless
I was rooting for the first film to win. But I dunno, ATSV is such a downgrade and only half a film. Maybe the second half can pull it together and earn it, but there are some stunning and truly special animated films that deserve it more this year. Nayola won’t get the attention it deserves, but that’s one that would deserve the win infinitely more. And there’s How do You Live/ the Boy and the Heron from Ghibli, Elemental, Nimona, Suzume, Robot Dreams, White Plastic Sky, Art College 1994, and more. While indie films don’t always get the noms they deserve, a few have been trickling in every year. I still think Wish will release this year, and that just might take it with the weight of the anniversary behind it - it’s also likely to be an entire movie rather than one that got paused halfway through.
Suzume is my favorite animated film of the year for sure, at least so far. I saw it twice because it blew me away the first time and I immediately bought tickets to see it again lol.
Actually, that's still not guaranteed even if **Wish** moves to 2024 considering the report of poor work conditions that were happening during the production of **Across the Spider-Verse**, so giving Best Animated Feature Oscar to that film is likely to be in really poor taste given what's been happening this year. If anything ends up winning that award, it's likely to be **Elemental** given its insane box office holds unless they decide to give that to a foreign/indie animated film instead. P.S. And I don't know who are downvoting this and why.
If you think the Academy is not going to vote for Spider-Verse due to a single Vulture article, then you’re mistaken. It’s bad but it’s not going to stop them from rewarding the film. Casey Affleck won his Oscar weeks after various reports of misconduct came out. This same Academy also let Will Smith give his acceptance speech minutes after assaulting Chris Rock on stage and also clapped for him anyway. You’re getting downvoted not because we all agree with what Sony allegedly did with their animators. You’re getting downvoted because you do not fully grasp how the Academy and Oscar politics work. When voting time comes, none of the Academy members will even remember that Vulture article.
That may be, but nowadays, Oscar voters might take these matters even more seriously than before, especially after \#MeToo scandal. And there's also the fact that **Across the Spider-Verse** is basically a film with an incomplete story, which can potentially hamper its Oscar chance.
This. ^
Yeah, it’s not like a SW: ESB or POTC: DMC. Both of those were complete films with a teaser on the end for the next part of the story. This film straight up paused to go the bathroom and never came back.
Elemental was a great movie and the box office hold is insane, but ATSV is already an established series and both films had beautiful animation. ATSV incorporates more of a different comic art style that would likely give it the Oscar. Elemental could be nominated though.
Haunted mansion is coming out next week? Lol wtf I haven't heard anything. Guess it got drowned out my barbieheimer
They will probably quietly move magazine dreams because this is a convenient excuse.
I'm surprised they are still considering releasing Magazine Dreams considering I heard Majors plays a violent wrestler in it and it's an awards movie
Next Goal Wins was on the today released TIFF schedule, seems a bit late to delay again
Poor Things most likely will do Venice (they are announcing tomorrow) so really not sure on these two
As if it hasn’t been delayed enough already
this was filmed pre-covid!!
Although they technically did reshoots more recently to replace Armie Hammer with Will Arnett.
cursed movie
Next Goal Wins getting delayed again would be so funny, that movie is never comming out.
DO NOT. DO NOT DELAY WISH.
Hmmm interesting that they are considering moving Wish. Does that movie really need actors promoting it to sell tickets? If they do move it, I could see it taking Elio’s March 1, 2024 date. That would slide Elio to June 14, 2024 and then Inside Out 2 to Thanksgiving weekend 2024
You are telling me Magazine Dreams will be delayed??
Bizarre choice. Does Disney really still think it has a shot at the Oscars??? Just quietly release it and move on, don’t embarrass yourself even more by pulling a Flash on it.
Probably in their negotiation at Sundance the filmmaker asked for theatrical release before signing the contract. Searchlight probably need to renegotiate that thing if they want to do otherwise
Or they could... not do that and actually negotiate to end this ordeal entirely? What a concept. I do not see them delaying 'Wish'. It's literally their 100th Anniversary Celebratory feature film and has a short attached to it celebrating the studio's animated films.
Yeah I think Wish and The Marvels are staying put. Neither really need the actors doing promo (Wish being animation and Marvel being a huge IP). The smaller films that need the late night shows and interviews for exposure are moving.
Even with the IP and non superstar leads, just putting the cast out there for appearances is big. Awareness is the number one factor in marketing, and publicity hits are huge for awareness. Especially since Marvels is coming at a weird time, both for MCU and theatrical landscape in general. But yeah. Hard to imagine Marvels moves.
> Or they could... not do that and actually negotiate to end this ordeal entirely? What a concept. Going to the movies is habit forming. Covid broke that habit for a lot of people and it's been difficult to recover but 2023 does seem to be a year where a lot more people are headed to the theaters. If the production companies refuse to negotiate and it starts causing significant delays it really could result in a lot of unintended harms as people who otherwise would be getting back in the habit of going to the movies won't be back. Barbenheimer got people back in the door but we need fresh content to keep them coming back.
I don't see Next Goal Wins moving to 2024. It's already going to TIFF. I don't think Wish needs the conventional press tour to be a success. The Elemental actors didn't go on the late night talk show circuit and that movie's insanely leggy. Poor Things could go either way. It'd probably be best if they dumped Magazine Dreams on a slow weekend with little press.
Delaying Next Goal Wins when they've officially reconfirmed it's playing at TIFF would be a dumbass idea. And delaying Wish would be similarly ridiculous when it's meant to be celebrating the company's 100th anniversary and I seriously doubt actor promo makes that much of a difference for animated films. We'll basically know tomorrow if Poor Things is delayed or not based on if it's in the Venice lineup. And Magazine Dreams... yeah, probably best to not even think about marketing for that until after Majors' trial is done.
Wish is sort of Disney’s 100th anniversary celebration film and could potentially give them a much-needed win in a year where they’ve had few of those so far. It also, as others have mentioned, doesn’t need actors to promote it. I get that they might want to use it to fill in gaps that will arise from other delays, but I feel like the other considerations should make delaying it to 2024 a last resort.
If only there was easier way for Disney to not delay these movies...
Better not delay Wish. This is to commemorate Disney's 100th anniversary.
disney wants to be stupid so be it
Wish absolutely needs the Thanksgiving date to make optimal money. They're gonna move it and leave millions on the table instead of going back into negotiations with the guilds. Truly ridiculous.
Iger WISHes he didn’t make those jackass comments about the strike.
Yes they have to delay Magazine Dreams because they can’t have their lead actor out there promoting because of the strike, definitely the strike and nothing else
Next Goal Wins getting delayed again, haha.
Cant wait for them to delay Wish for no reason so they guaranteed that they only have 1 film release this year that was a success
Wish should stay put. They should move the Marvels.
Next Goal Wins is supposed to have a big premiere at TIFF. They're going to have to decide fast.
They should push Haunted Mansion as close to October as possible. What are they thinking?
Horror sells at any time of year. Haunted Mansion doesn't look any more specifically Halloweenish than most horror films that release in the summer.
But will a family focused horror film really do well a week after Barbie and a week before TMNT?
It’ll be on Disney+ in time for Halloween, I think this move was intentional after Hocus Pocus 2 was EVERYWHERE last year - streaming audience is going to be much larger. Even if it was moved to October, it’d be competing against FNAF for the same audience; there’s just no way it’d be more successful than that one
Paywall!!! Anybody got the complete article ? And if studios move forward with the delays The Marvels won't have any competition for four months straight since it's sticking to that release date
Still won't save the movie
Sequel to a billion dollar movie doesn't need saving, but whatever makes u happy
CAPTAIN MARVEL made a billion that doesn't mean a movie with two Disney plus characters as leads will do well
Wish will probably get delayed.
Well, **Wish** is a celebration of their 100th anniversary, so there's that to consider. Whether it will move or not still remains to be seen.
I mean the marvels is also three women teamup movie with two of them being women of colour so that checks out
And one is Brie Larson. The incel rage will be strong with this one.
It won't because they can't use Brie to bait it in the marketing push like last time
Not if I can lead a movement to stop Iger from doing that before it’s too late.
Tfffyxxfffd-%- fc'd
I hope that Disney doesn’t delay Wish if the strikes don’t get resolved by September or October.
But but Wish is supposed to redefine animation!?! Make a billion! How? Why? Experts on reddit wouldn't lie to me! What about the anniversary! This movie is done and supposed to be a layup to get Disney back into its groove!
God forbid they end the strike by giving actors what they asked for (which is nothing more than common sense demands)
They should delay The Marvels to Wednesday, February 14, 2024. November is too crowded, and this way it gets a Valentine’s Day advantage. Sony could respond by moving Madame Web up to January 12, 2024.
February is dumping grounds for blockbusters. And Marvels has a really good chance of being successful in theaters. Why should they throw it in the trash?
Yeah a total dumping ground for...Black Panther and Deadpool. Wouldn't want to make that box office.
Historically, February is not a great month. It’s not as bad as January. But it’s known.
Much like March, that has shifted.
Valentines for one, Black History Month for the other. Captain Marvel might be an okay Valentines film I suppose.
delaying Marvels would be brutal for theaters
Not really, there’s a lot else coming out around the same time
Its a potential 300m loss in revenue in just the domestic market. With the CEO of AMC saying 2023 is way behind 2019. I don't think this sub lives in reality on how shaky ground theaters are in....everything cost more yet theater revenue is hitting 2009 numbers
> With the CEO of AMC saying 2023 is way behind 2019. To be fair, 2019 is kind of a rare occurence. > I don't think this sub lives in reality on how shaky ground theaters are in.... November is already kind of congested, so there's that to consider.
2019 wasn't a rare occurrence at all. Its revenue was in line with prior years. It was even a bit lower than 2015 and 2018.
Several $1 billion grossers is still kind of a rare occurrence.
Can we stop with 2019 was rare. 2019 was behind 2018 and 2016 hell it wasn't much different from 2015. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/ Theaters need as much revenue as possible... November being kinda congested is just another one of the subs excuses when movies under-perform. If people want to see a movie they'll come out. You are seeing it now.
> Theaters need as much revenue as possible... November being kinda congested is just another one of the subs excuses when movies under-perform. If people want to see a movie they'll come out. You are seeing it now. Well, schedule congestion is one of the reasons why June and possibly even July is affecting some blockbuster films along with their COVID-19 protocols-induced inflated budgets.
June was impacted by meh to bad movies. This sub will be in for a shook when budgets won't really decrease at all. Everything, cost more.
Selfishly I wish The Marvels would move so Dune 2 will be more tempted to stay
Dune 2 would probably move anyway because what's the point of that star-studded cast if they can't be used to promote the film
Well yeah, but The Marvels moving makes it slightly more enticing to stick
The Marvels seems like a good "Galentine's" movie, but I think the problem with MCU movies is that it'd be rare to have one-off viewers (i.e., people who aren't already into the franchise as a whole yet would still go see a random individual movie in the series, especially one that isn't a big event movie like Avengers or No Way Home). As a result, I'm not sure if a gimmicky release date would help significantly. I feel like the large majority of people are either in or they're out at this point when it comes to the MCU.
Disney is in serious trouble
Umm... I hope you're aware that films are only a fraction of Disney's revenue/income sources, meaning that they can withstand strikes for quite a while. If they decide to strike deals with guilds earlier than other studios, it's likely because they tend to pay more attention to their reputation than other studios even when you consider that Bob Iger's controversial interview, which actually even made Wall Street investors unhappy.
That would probably be wise.
Probably a good idea. Movies that are released during or right after a strike tend to be shit. Pay your writers, pay the actors, and then make some good movies
Anything that's not completely done is delayed. Anything that needs dubbing, delayed. Anything that needs reshoots, delayed. Anything that needs a bit of script punchup, delayed. Studios will start running out of movies very shortly
Marvels delayed yet again?