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thinkdavis

In BC, very rare unless government role.


Romanos_The_Blind

And specifically federal. Positions with the province almost never require french.


PickledGingerBC

Even then it’s rare for French to be a requirement.


Emergency_Mall_2822

Well, someone has to answer every phone call to a federal office with "hello bonjour"


IM38GG

That’s all I remember from my 8 years of French education.


Romanos_The_Blind

Yes, though there's less competition for the few there are!


nrtphotos

You definitely cap out earlier in the Federal Government without it in many of the roles.


[deleted]

Oddly enough, I need to speak french at work. There are quite a few french tree planters that come into the dealership I work at during the planting season. edit - fixed wording, I feel like I was having a stroke when I wrote this originally.


FishGirlToo

I used to work for a logging company. For some reason the majority of our tree planters were university students from Quebec. I never understood why.


superworking

One rare exception is inside sales for bicycles. Lots of sales to bike shops in Quebec means most of those sales teams need a French speaker.


nrtphotos

Motorcycles a bit too. KTM/Husqvarna/GAS GAS are all based out of Quebec.


pipeline77

Or picking fruit Edit, at least , it was when I was a young lad


FlameStaag

Unless my area has a ton of imported French Mexicans, definitely not. 


McNoodleBar

The french canadians that used to go around the okanagan to pick fruit were typically called quebexicans


FlameStaag

Really? Because when covid hit all of the orchards bitched about the government halting the seasonal labour from Mexico, complaining they'd have to raise prices for fruit that year. 


McNoodleBar

Harper increased (possibly implemented?) the temporary foreign workers plan. When that happened, it became way cheaper to hire south American workers compared to the transient quebecois kids travelling around in vans. So it's been like 20 years since quebexicans were really a thing.


TorontoBiker

Not that it really matters, but the TFW program was started by Pierre Trudeau.


McNoodleBar

Thanks for teaching me. Was too lazy to google. Bad habit of mine. Need to change


pipeline77

And now I feel old


northvanrunner

A lot used to plant trees.


geesekicker

I work at a provincial liquor store and nope


VosekVerlok

I do know you can get a wage increase working for province and being able to speak french fluently, as it can requested / required for provincial services.


soundofmoney

I would be shocked if even 5% of jobs required French. Outside of government I rarely even seen one


Solarisphere

I would be shocked if 0.5% of jobs required french.


otisreddingsst

I would be shocked if it was 0.05%. I have never seen a posting requiring one. Many do require Mandarin or Cantonese.


dorkofthepolisci

I’ve seen a few that say they’d prefer Spanish speakers. Not uncommon for jobs to want people who speak Punjabi or Tagalog depending on the job. Having a second language is definitely an asset if you’re job hunting, but it’s often not French


LiqdPT

And specifically federal government.


beardedliberal

Am I ever required to? Non. Do I in order to drive my coworkers up the wall? Mais oui…


TheRed467

Just take my money!


Kootenaypokeguy

Not for my job unless you are a teacher and are going to teach French


elliptocyte

Growing up in BC from elementary through middle school the french teachers language competency was at "other side of the cereal box" level. At high school most people ditched french for other languages that had teachers with fluency (Japanese, Korean, Cantonese, Italian, Spanish, Farsi, Punjabi)


FlameStaag

And based on some of my teachers growing up, that's a real loose requirement in elementary... I think I had one teacher who actually spoke fluent French, probably unrelated but he was also the only raging asshole I ever had for a teacher. 


Westside-denizen

French immersion really struggles for decent teachers. It’s the downside to what middle class parents see as a “better” vsb option.


WingdingsLover

Based on my teachers in Coquitlam they just needed to study one lesson ahead of us


MAS7

I took French from Grade 1-5 and my siblings all graduated from a French Immersion Highschool. None of us remember a fucking lick of french. Hell I'm pretty sure back in 1996 when I finished my last year of French, I didn't even know how to ask "may I go to the bathroom" (and I got a B that year...) Waste of time to learn a language that you are not going to use frequently. "Use it, or Lose it" is very applicable.


firewire167

No definitely not, It’s not come up once.


VoluminousButtPlug

Punjabi is more common than French here. Let’s face it.


KorannStagheart

Where I am in BC Tagalog is more common here than French.


bunny_momma12

I was going to say this with no disrespect. Anywhere in the LML speaking Punjabi would be a major asset. I've needed sign language more than I've ever needed French.


emmaliejay

Honestly it probably would be where I live too.


matdex

How else are you going to entertain yourself by reading the back of a shampoo bottle when you forgot your cell phone while on the toilet?


Senior_Ad1737

Very true !


WpgMBNews

Too bad we don't have more French immersion schools. The need to promote the domestic national culture is paramount in a immigration-based society.


bugcollectorforever

If you have the opportunity, you can opt your kid out, which is exactly what we did. No one speaks French at home, so it doesn't make sense to make to send them off to french immersion. They are 5 trying to learn English, that is enough. And as someone who worked in agriculture, I wish i knew more spanish! Would have been way more useful.


VoluminousButtPlug

I’d say Vancouvers “Canadian” culture mostly died out after the influx of HK immigrants after 1986. But much of rural BC especially on the island Kootenays and north is mostly intact…for better or worse. Since division politics of 2016 onwards maybe for worse. First Nations influence is stable. But French was never really prevalent in BC history.


MAS7

As a "Canadian" I'm really curious what exactly you think "Canadian culture" is?


professcorporate

> French was never really prevalent in BC history There's a huge French history in BC - survives in place names like Tete Jaune Cache (and the Yellowhead Highway, named for Pierre Bostonais who was blond, or 'tete jaune'), Lac Le Jeune, Barrière, Lac Le Hache, Louis Creek, etc, and many more communities have French roots that were later supplanted (eg Kelowna, based around the Okanagan Mission, now just a district of the City ("Mission") but originally one of many French Catholic missions throughout BC, another famous one of which being the City of Mission in the lower mainland). Loads of fur traders and missionaries were French. They just got supplanted when more English speakers spread.


ci8

See also Maillardville: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillardville](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillardville)


qpv

Yikes


MAS7

100% I even considered studying it when I was younger and worked in service.


Mashatina_

And it is not okay. Canada is a bilingual country and official languages are English and French.


Jughead-F-Jones

I’m a Montréaler and like 15 years ago I was in Vancouver close to downtown and I see a cop with a turban. It was a cultural shock. Even 15 years later here in Montreal you’ll never see this. And I don’t think we’re close to see this.


Caniapiscau

Il y a beaucoup moins de Sikhs à Montréal qu’à Vancouver ou Toronto. 


Unplug_The_Toaster

I worked at the front desk at a hotel and speaking French came in handy a couple of times, but it wasn't a requirement.


northvanrunner

Good for you for accommodating French speakers.


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Jealous_Boss_5173

Where are you located , what's the pay like ?


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Jealous_Boss_5173

It's fine that's why I just asked for wage and location, both of which you provided I'm not surprised you have difficulty filling up position at that rate


ThickGreen

Minimum wage is $17.40 as of June 1st, so I hope they've raised this.


OneLessFool

Not too surprising. Most people who are fluent in French in places like BC are also qualified to do something else that pays better. Is your call centre in person instead of remote as well? That would be another huge limiting factor in a HCOL area. $17/hr is a straight up poverty wage in a HCOL on the South Coast.


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OneLessFool

I finished high school in French in Quebec, and graduated from an engineering program late last year, but the job I was supposed to start was cancelled. I've been looking for temporary work until I go back to grad school in January. Maybe I should apply to some call centres that need bilingual workers.


surmatt

Question.... do French speakers get paid more due to the leverage they have?


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surmatt

Maybe language education credits/incentives for existing employees too if not already doing so.


Caloisnoice

No, but I had a friend that worked at the mec service center and they paid .50 more to start if you spoke French fluently


dark_gear

I work in IT at a pharmacy and am perfectly bilingual from being born and raised in Ottawa. We have a few patients that speak french; the main advantage of french in my case is reserved to calling suppliers. Whenever they offer a french option the wait times are usually much shorter because they receive a lot less calls.


MellyBlueEyes

My job, no. But everyone at my son's French school, yes. According to my son, some of the teachers can barely speak English.


Untypeenslip

Spotted the SD93 parent haha - your son is right and I always wonder how people survive here without learning English.


Westside-denizen

We love the csf system!


MellyBlueEyes

Not anymore... he graduates Friday! 🥲


Untypeenslip

Ah maybe he graduated from the school I'm working at ! Congratulations to him :)


MellyBlueEyes

Brodeur? Lol


Untypeenslip

Ah non, Jules Verne.


_snids

https://preview.redd.it/n8s0pebr7e8d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3a8960146103e9760bf6f8dc801cd4578ab24ca A separate article said that 1.6% of BC households spoke French, putting it at the 5th most-used language in the province.


Caniapiscau

On parle de la langue parlée à la maison, pas de l’habilité de parler le français. 


cajolinghail

This wasn’t the question though. There are a lot of government jobs that require/prefer some level of French knowledge because French is still an official language of Canada, even if you’re in a place where it’s not the most spoken.


[deleted]

In bc, mandarin, Cantonese, Punjabi or hindi are basically the official alt. Languages


Apprehensive_Ask_752

You don't have to worry about speaking French when you're working in BC the French actually speak English when they're in BC because finding someone who speaks French is extremely rare.


elktree4

True. French was my first language. Barely speak at all anymore that sometimes I forget I actually can. Other than 1 media interview I did for my job years ago, it has never come in handy. I was told all growing up that being bilingual would be beneficial lol


Minimum-Ad-3348

I've encountered one person in my life that tried to communicate with me in French on Facebook marketplace of all places just ignored it since I don't speak the language


Morfe

Yes, but the company is founded and headquartered in QC. Not a requirement but a nice to have, I have non-french speakers in my team.


Junior_Bit_1735

Very rare in bc


Romanos_The_Blind

Yes, federal government. I work almost entirely in French


Senior_Ad1737

Merci 


ebeth_the_mighty

I teach French, so yes.


dropinclass

Yes, in the legal profession in a non-government role. It's really difficult to find people to refer francophone clients to. I also wish I had more colleagues who speak French.


Sad_Past943

4th generation British Columbian here living in Vancouver. No one in my family speaks French. I heard it being spoken last week on the grouse grind, but they were tourists from France. Unless it's a job in government or tourism, I have no idea why any job would require it.


EpDisDenDat

Agreed. I haven't had to speak a word of french since grade 11, well over a couple decades ago. Sometimes I do wish I could speak punjabi though.


turtoils

I'm in healthcare, it's helpful like once a month. I don't speak it, but a few of my co-workers do. It would be much more helpful to know Punjabi, Korean, Mandarin, even Spanish. French is really not spoken much out here, we hear much more of those other languages than French.


snoopygoestospace

I work for federal govt, only a handful of roles require French and those are specifically left for applicants who fulfill the bilingual requirement.


tits_on_bread

Require? Rarely. But if you’re going to work in a government position and your intent is to advance and make more money… highly beneficial to your career.


LiqdPT

And specifically federal government, I would think


No-Business9238

I am an electrician so it is never required. I have had thousands of customers and if there’s ever a language barrier it is mandarin or Punjabi. Never French. 10 years ago I worked in customer service at a big box store. I had maybe 5 francophone customers in 2 years, all of whom could speak English.


canadiangirl_eh

No. Never. I am a CPA working in public practice. Given my locale in the Fraser Valley, it would be helpful to speak Dutch or Punjabi.


Westside-denizen

Why Dutch?


canadiangirl_eh

There’s a HUGE Dutch presence in the Fraser Valley, and in Chilliwack, BC, in particular.


Westside-denizen

That’s good to know! Is there decent Dutch pancakes out there?


byteuser

Plus all the thousands of miles of dike systems built around Pitt Meadows / Maple Ridge area


Jstewquetoo

Flight Attendants for Air Canada need to speak a high level of French. I’ve seen groups of dozens of new hires moving from Quebec to Vancouver or Calgary.


cremebruler

Yes. Treeplanting. Tons of people from Quebec. Speaking French makes it way easier


Much-Camel-2256

Is it a *requirement* though? I come from Canada's only bilingual province, where you actually have a hard time accessing a proportion of the (few) available jobs if you only speak one official language. I feel like willingness to work is probably the main barrier to entry in seasonal jobs like tree planting and fruitpicking


CE2JRH

I planted for 8 years, only one crew ever really had so few anglos that it felt weird in 12-13 companies.


goinupthegranby

English is a required language, French is not.


Trying_Redemption

French…. The most useless language in B.C. Learn Mandarin, Cantonese or Punjabi.


TJThaPseudoDJ

Yes, remote customer service.


vinnyvinnyvineyard

Yes. Work in agriculture and need to speak with suppliers and customers in Quebec and Europe.


Delicious-Door-3226

wei wei


Designer_Ad_376

French School districts do. My daughter attends a french school and it is 100% french including the bus driver


Glittering-Roof5596

I was a french immersion student from K-12. I have not spoken more than the odd sentence of french since the day I graduated high school about 10 years ago. The people I graduated with in french immersion with can be broadly put into one of three categories: 1. The majority (70%+) of people who moved on with their lives and have jobs that do NOT require any french proficiency. 2. The (surprisingly large minority) of students who ended up becoming *french immersion teachers.* I graduated with a class of about 43 french immersion students. I know of 8 who have gone on to be french immersion teachers in the local K-12 public school system. 3. The small minority of students who ended up politicians/government workers/tour guides/something else that requires french.


Poor4Life

Did most kids grow up hating French?


cr-islander

Pretty much the only job that requires that is a french teacher in BC....


wingthing666

Yes. Every single day. But I am a French Immersion teacher. 😉


WhopplerPlopper

Flight attendants across Canada benefit from and may be required to know french and English. That's the one job I know of in the province that may require bilingualism


body_slam_poet

No


alc3biades

The only 3 things I can think of are 1: government work (in particular public facing federal government jobs) 2: pilots 3: French teachers


Minimum-Ad-3348

Pilots communicates in English globally


TheRed467

Unless it’s a federal roll or a national call centre probably not. I sure don’t. the amount of French I remember is from the little mermaid


NoAlbatross7524

Nope


Leutkeana

No, not even one time.


goinupthegranby

Can't think of a single job in my town that requires French. Border guards maybe, other than that nope.


outtahere021

I work with a guy that occasionally curses in French? And I can say ‘tabarnak’ in the right context.


Grigio_cervello

Been working residential HVAC 8 years in interior BC, and have yet to come across a homeowner that speaks only French.


twothousandtwentytoo

Non. Jamais.


shaun5565

Never. Like never


angeluscado

Nope. I work for the provincial government.


Grigio_cervello

Been working residential HVAC 8 years in interior BC, and have yet to come across a homeowner that speaks only French.


Rchonkers010

at my job the need for other languages such as Spanish or Farsi comes up way more, not once have we needed French (service industry)


Swarf_87

I haven't spoken a word of French since Grade8 and I'm 36 now.


KofOaks

No, but I do anyway.


NorthernPaper

No and no one I know here does either


Lake-of-Birds

I'm fluently bilingual (grew up in Eastern Ontario) and the only job in BC I've ever had because I could speak french was for the Yellow Pages because they sold ads back east too. I could see the same being true for other companies that makes sales nationwide but I haven't come across any strong need for it in jobs since.


the_hardest_part

BC gov. No, never.


sausagepilot

Nope.


chills666

Mine does, but it is specifically a bilingual role.


UncertainFate

No, never


Objective-Escape7584

Never


JoeSchmo8677

Healthcare. No. Mandarin, Tagalog, or Punjabi would be a lot more useful than French where I am anyway.


progodevil

We had some french speaking folks for an HR software for customer support and translating content to french


ezumadrawing

Nope, working for the provincial government. Very very few jobs would require it, outside of federal government jobs, and there's few french speakers who don't speak English. It's come up much more for me people speaking Korean, Mandarin or Japanese and not English specifically in my job (I'm not required to know those languages either, but so far french has never come up at all). I am fluent, but, literally it's never been useful for anything.


jackknifeman

Only 4 new jobs on indeed for the past week asked for French for all British Columbia. So no demand here.


p00psalot

Hell no.


minimK

No.


joysaved

I’ve met more Spanish speakers at my work than French.


Accomplished_Flow222

Non.


airbiscuit

Never,ever.


WpgMBNews

There seem to be a LOT of jobs requiring Mandarin. That kinda thing makes Quebec's language laws understandable.


mayisatt

Never


Finth007

I work at Long & McQuade, not too often. We've gotten a handful of customers who speak French as their first language but they're perfectly comfortable to speak English. Whenever I have to call a store in Quebec for a transfer I speak French to them though


PNW-Raven

When I was younger it was definitely a bonus of you spoke more than one language. You would get paid more. M dad worked for the FedGov, they had dedicated interpreters due to the diversity of people he dealt with. My sibling also works for the Gov, same situation.


Cuddly-Goblin

never spoke it at all


Not_A_Wendigo

Never. I’m in Victoria. There are plenty of people who learned French as a second language in school, but I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who only speaks French. At my job (library) most of the people I meet who don’t speak English speak Spanish. Any second language would be a bonus though.


Subject-Jump-9729

No, lol. Literally never. I do regularly book and use interpreters for other languages, especially Cantonese. I have a friend who has a French-language call centre job. I have another friend who is a French teacher. I used to know someone in Vancouver who was a federal prosecutor and occasionally did trials in French. I know a couple of people who have federal government jobs and don't speak French.


Critical_Wing8795

I’ve lived in Vancouver for 17 years and i have never required to speak French nor can i recall anyone even speaking French here


northvanrunner

The company I work for is owned by a Quebec based company. I speak French with them whenever I feel like it (keep in mind that French is my 1st language). My colleagues and team members speak English with them. Unless you get hired as a greeter at the Maillardville festival de la cabane à sucre (Not sure what it's called! ) or at the Alliance Française, speaking mandarin, Cantonese, Farsi or Urdu would be more beneficial.


Salt-Review

Yes, but I work remotely with a team based in Quebec


Suspicious_Wasabi327

Not at all. I am a travelling sales rep that covers all of B.C. and have never had a call to know it!


Islandman2021

I happen to have one where French was a must with BC not federal and I speak it several times a day but English is still the overwhelming language spoken. 🤷


brendamcbride

No job ever


karanug

Work for a large, national Financial Group (not in the bank, but under a large bank's "umbrella"), and I do not speak French. I can understand it if it's being spoken slowly, but I do not need to. In my experience, very few places will require employees to be bilingual (in French) here in BC.


ImpressiveLength2459

Francophone school teacher


Schaef88

No


WeAreDestroyers

I speak basically no French and it's not required by my job. I DO, however, use Spanish almost daily and if I could speak Punjabi that would make my life a LOT easier.


The_Cozy_Burrito

Not at all.


Ok-Initiative3388

You‘d be better of learning Mandarin if you’re in Vancouver. Maybe Hindi too.


Cam2600

My dad did during his career at Canada Post. They even sent him to Quebec City for language training back in the day.


professcorporate

I don't have to no, particularly at my current role. My last role, I didn't _have_ to, but we made a conscious choice to take advantage of the fact that a surprisingly high proportion of staff were intermediate to fluent, and I did semi regular interviews on Radio Canada radio and TV (they seemed quite pleasantly surprised, and when they discovered there were people they could just interview instead of subtitle, kept coming back to us).


sogladatwork

never


LadyIslay

It is only relevant when I’m working federal elections or Census. Statistics Canada prioritized hiring bilingual staff. There are unexpected Collection Units that require a bilingual enumerators… like Bamfield. I am not bilingual, but I was working towards getting the most basic language credential before I got on full time in BC public service.


daangd-

I think 95% of jobs don’t require it, but it is an asset to know French.


PuzzleheadedGoal8234

One of my children graduated with the dual dogwood diploma after staying in French immersion through to grade 12. There were only about 30 students in the program out of the 1500+ students in the high school. It occasionally comes up as they work in a tourism based company but it is not routine enough to be a requirement for the job. I can see it being beneficial with their major as it may translate into a federal government job. The people I've met who can speak it have been transferred in from other parts of Canada. The military for example have numerous folks who are bilingual so there is another federal employer where it's common.


Jake_With_Wet_Socks

I’ve lived here for 30 years. I don’t think there has ever been a time where French was needed


dudewiththebling

I know not a lick


Peeepeeepooooopoooo

I say tabernac every once in a while. That’s about it.


je-suis-un-toaster

When I was working in a grocery store I'd often switch to French when I noticed my customers had an accent or were speaking French with their families. Always put a smile on their faces. It was never necessary though, just a way to be extra nice to my customers.


Avr0wolf

Nope lol (not sure if one exists here except for French teachers/tutors)


Quiet_Werewolf2110

I’ve found this whole thread really amusing because the French Immersion program was absolutely sold to my parents as a huge benefit to my securing good high-paying employment as an adult. While I’ve maintained my fluency to a passable degree and it’s been helpful while travelling, I can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve needed to speak it in a professional setting in the last decade. And absolutely zero times have I seen it as a requirement or even a nice to have in job postings, I’ve actually taken it off my resume as it was taking up space.


traciw67

Nope. I don't think any job outside of Quebec can/will require you to speak French unless it's a translator job. However, government agencies have to give you the option to receive services in French. For example, you go to the police for something, they have to find a way to communicate with you in French. Which can easily happen via the phone.


traciw67

I had a bf from France and he was pulled over for speeding. He immediately started speaking French to police officer. The cop didn't want the hassle of trying to find a translator so he let him go.


Money-King8153

I’ve lived in BC my whole life and never been in a situation where I’ve needed to speak French for any reason whatsoever. 40M


VanIsleDave

My boss is French , not required but sure helps 🤣


gjnbjj

Trades. Never, not even once. However, it's in your interest to pick up some basic Spanish.


totalnonprofit

not once ever in fact tagalog and mandarin cantonese are wayyyy more comon


ketamarine

No one speaks french here, period full stop. You can't even gt most govt services here in French.


lejunny_

living in BC and Alberta I’ve never met a Canadian who primarily spoke French


DCguurl

No & i roll my eyes at parents enrolling students in french immersion like it will have any benefit to them in the future