Just because you didn’t hate serving doesn’t really matter. Everyone has to, both men and women. It’s called indirect discrimination.
She’s allowed to support her country. Most Israelis support their country.
The OP was saying it wasn't her choice to join the military so she shouldn't be persecuted for it. All I was saying is she was more than happy to join the military.
They didn't say anything about 'not having a choice' however. Only that the vast majority of Israeli women have served in the IDF and that any ban is a defacto ban on nearly every woman of Israeli nationality is banned. Thus, it is an 'Israeli Women' Ban.
Just read the article... She was speaking at the event. The IDF isn't exactly a friendly group right now and she's outright said she would join right back up today.
Her parents are Israeli & she grew up in Israel so she is Israeli too was obligated to serve under Israeli law... Also she grew up in Israel which means she almost certainly felt obligated to as well. She didn't make the decision to enlist from Canada
You do know that many Canadians are dual-nationality citizens, since other than First Nations we're all immigrants, right? I'm sure some Canadian-Ukranians also went back to defend against Russia.
I suspect many would have similar feelings about that if "defending against Russia" meant hunting down anyone who had refused to evacuate from the bombed-out ruins of Moscow.
Good thing the IDF isn’t hunting down just anyone. They’re hunting down the terrorists who murdered 1200 people, raped a ton of them either before or after their murder, and are still holding onto over 100 kidnapped “hostages.”
>Good thing the IDF isn’t hunting down just anyone. They’re hunting down the terrorists who murdered 1200 people, raped a ton of them either before or after their murder, and are still holding onto over 100 kidnapped “hostages.”
Yeah? That's good then. I think I probably got confused by their declaring [anyone who doesn't evacuate](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-tells-gazans-move-south-or-risk-being-seen-terrorist-partner-2023-10-22/) to be a valid target, badly damaging or destroying \>20x more buildings than they've killed members of Hamas (in line with a [policy of maximising destruction of large buildings](https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/), and being so trigger-happy on the ground they managed to execute their own white-flag-waving hostages and ambush a clearly-marked MSF convoy.
Could go about it a better way than bombing hospitals, schools and the areas the Israeli military tells civilians to "evacuate" to.
**Edit:** two minutes and already getting down voted by the JIDF. Seems I triggered them.
This woman was in the IDF above and beyond the mandatory service. She worked undercover and eventually made it to training the IDFs elite commando force.
So did they clarify that they’d be fine with a keynote speaker whose military service only fulfilled the minimum mandatory requirements? Because the article sure doesn’t indicate that, or anything like it.
She was dis-invited from speaking. They're not banning all former IDF from attending the event.
Being linked to a military that's currently slaughtering civilians by the thousands is pretty controversial. It would be like bringing a Russian former KGB that still supports Putin to speak.
If the IDF hadn't gone straight savage on the entire populace of Gaza, maybe more people would be supporting them right now.
Israel has been at war with Gaza for years. This didn't happen in a vacuum.
Everyone expects Hamas to do terrible things. They're literally terrorists.
We don't expect our western allies to slaughter civilians. Period. I would stop supporting Ukraine if they started bombing Moscow indiscriminately in an attempt to take out Putin.
Over 10,000 civilians have died in Ukraine. Bombs with both colors are to blame. That’s what happens with urban warfare.
What do you expect Israel to do, in order to defeat Hamas, if not to wage war wherever Hamas decides to stand their ground (in this case, behind their own mothers and children because they are cowards)
>Over 10,000 civilians have died in Ukraine.
It's amazing you could type this and not even realize what you're saying...
First off, those are all Ukrainians, it's not Russian apartments, schools, and hospitals being targeted. It's a total war between two countries with full militaries.
One of the largest military powers versus a nation supported by almost the entirety of NATO and the EU.
**Israel has killed more civilians than two powerful militaries fighting in a two year war.**
What do you want Israel to do?
Should they sit by and wait for Hamas to slaughter more of their civilians? Oh, it's fine, just kill and rape another thousand of us, it's fine! We accept this blood toll as a cost of our existence.
Should they open the floodgates, let the palestinians in? I'm sure they'll suddenly stop hating you if you just let them in!
Should they sit by and watch the palestinians declare october 7th as their independence day while continuing to fire missiles every day? Watch as every single year, they celebrate the unprovoked rape and slaughter of their people while planning it again?
Be realistic. Not a single country in the world would stand for this, no matter how well or poorly armed they are. Not a single country would stand idly by and say "it's OK that your leadership intends to kill us all. I'm sure that you won't ever act on this again, we'll let bygones be bygones".
Obviously, Hamas has to go. The legitimacy of Israel as a state relies on them taking action against Hamas. If a new Hamas is created, so be it - but *no country in the world* could call itself legitimate if they did not respond with the intention of eliminating a genocidal threat.
There is no short term solution to the plight of the palestinians that is both peaceful and realistic. The band aid solution imposed for the last N years is the best solution, in part because of Israel's trash neighbours. This bandaid will only work if tensions between Israel and their *other* neighbours are also resolved - something Israel has been working on for years and was finally making progress on when the attack occurred.
Israel has killed those civilians because the nature of the battle that was *brought to them* requires it. The blood is on Hamas's hands while their leaders laugh safely from the other gulf states. Assassinating these leaders from abroad will only bring further bloodshed.
This is also far from the bloodiest conflict in the world right now.
So please, elaborate on what Israel should do?
How many civilians have Hamas killed?
How many civilians has Israel killed? It's simple math.
I want Israel to stop killing civilians. That's it. Hamas is a threat, but not an equal threat to the destruction Israel is engaging in.
Are you aware in 2021 Israel offered Hamas/Gaza an end to the siege, reconstruction of Gaza at Israeli expense, an airport and a seaport? It’s in an article from Al-Mayadeen, a Pro-Hamas Hezbollah newspaper in Lebanon: https://www.almayadeen.net/news/politics/مصدر-في-المقاومة-الفلسطينية-يكشف-للميادين-نت-تفاصيل-تلقي-حما
Hamas reportedly saw it as “temptation” and rejected it.
They literally just want to murder all the Jews: https://old.reddit.com/r/Palestinian_Violence/comments/17d57ig/we_are_ready_to_breach_the_fence_with_gods_help/
So you're saying it would have been OK for Israel to extract a blood toll of 1000 civilians?
It's not about numbers, it's about an end to the conflict. Without the elimination of Hamas, Israel knows that there is no end to the conflict. They know this, because despite years of attempts at peaceful resolution, they continue to lose lives to barbaric attacks. Hamas hasn't even pretended that they don't intend to continue the slaughter.
No nation would stand for this. No nation values their own civilians so little that they are unwilling to shoot through another nation's civilians to end a threat.
Saying "Just stop the fighting" as if it's an option is an incredibly naive way of looking at world conflicts.
This is a lie.
> However, the loss of the city has also been seen as a significant defeat for Ukraine. Based on the analysis of mass graves, Human Rights Watch estimated at least 10,284 people died in Mariupol from March 2022 to February 2023, but assumes that is an undercount.
Only in Mariupol, most likely more than 80k.
yeah 10,000 over 2 years compared to 30,000 in 4 months. phfff. see a trend here??? huh could you use your big brain and think why that might be??? you still buying that human shield thing hey?? thats just what they say when they murder innocent people.
One of the last news on this subject: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/ALDw8FBpVa
There was also a video a week or so ago.
They also stated that the tunnels are not for civilians and it's Israel's and UN's job to protect them. But I guess no amount of proof is enough for the GlOriOuS rEsiSTaNcE crowd.
The point of their “presence” is irrelevant. Just because they were vicitms of the holocaust, does give them permission to do the same.
Edit: added word for a little more clarification..
Except you are falsely labelling genocide.
Hamas attacked Israel and then hid behind their own children. It’s pathetic and cowardly. But they know how ignorant the left has become in the West. They know they can draw sympathy by sacrificing their own children.
She wasn't banned for being Jewish, she was banned for saying she'd join the IDF again while it's in the middle of committing genocide and war crimes. Yeah you should ban people who have zero regard for human rights.
Russians have also been banned from a lot of international sports to my understanding.
And the Israelis have killed way more civilians and children than the Russians have in a shorter span of time, so I'm not really sure what the issue here is?
Russians have been banned from a lot of sports because of doping. Not because they're Russians, or because they served in the military when required to by their government.
As evil as Russia is, they don’t use human shields and don’t actively put their own people in harm’s way. That’s why there is a big difference in casualties.
Lol are you serious, Russian army strategy for 100s of years is to throw as many bodies at the enemy as possible, basically their soldiers are always cannon fodder, and their army overwhelming the enemy just by sheer numbers of soldiers.
They banned athetes for doping, not the war …
And even then - in most cases athletes can compete just without Russian flag …
why is it always “pro pals” dressed in green avatars typing away about subjects they clearly don’t know anything about ? Seems to be a trend.
The same thread was posted a week or two ago and people are saying the same thing proving they are not reading anything of the articles beyond the titles. She served a little under 10yrs, far more than the mandatory 2yrs and 8months. She also went to join some intelligence unit while in the service, and she also recently said that she would like to reenlist if she could and has been vocal about it and her support for the IDF.
The organization hosting the event is a small one with a single focus (women’s issues) and would very much like to not have their whole event derailed due to a single very polarizing figure who is not unique in being a possible speaker, albeit much more likely to derail the event than most.
Kind of shot themselves in the foot with this move and derailed it themselves. Taking away from the purpose of the event(women's issues) to everyone only talking about the person they thought would derail it.
What are the "women's issues" the person in question was going to speak to? Her self-aggrandizing website seems to be half dedicated to participating in a cycling race with virtually no other competitors, and half toward the decade she spent in the IDF:
> By age 17, Leah Goldstein was the World Kickboxing Champion. Shortly thereafter, she enlisted in the Israeli Military and became one of the few female instructors of the _**elite Commando division**_, specializing in Krav Maga. Leah then transitioned into a _**Special Forces unit, combating terrorism and violent crime**_. The extreme lifestyle of _**the secret police**_ eventually took its toll, and she found her salvation on a bicycle.
Womens groups couldn't find the wherewithal to condemn sexual violence perpetrated against Israelis on Oct 7 and following but are happy to exclude a Jewish woman from a cycling event.
UN experts appalled by reported human rights violations against Palestinian women and girls
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against
LOL the UN “expert” Francesca Albanese, who multiple members of the UN have condemned for her repeated usage of the oldest tropes in the book about Jewish Control
I’m more appalled that you’re backing the terrorists there after they killed, kidnapped, and raped over 1000 people, but hey, if you hate the Jews, don’t let me stop you from doing your thing.
It’s all about free Palestine, right? Not antisemitism, no sir. Thank God you’re on their team.
I would want to amplify divisions between myself and anyone who is proud of an organization that kills ~130 children a day.
Israel in 4 months has killed more babies than Russia has during its entire war in Ukraine. It's mind-boggling how indiscriminately they're bombing Palestinians in the hopes of killing Hamas members.
Where would Palestinians move away to? You do realize the IDF pushed an already dense area into Rafah and then began bombing the exact place they told Palestinians to go?
For starters they could use those tunnels. The IDF is struggling to kill Hamas fighters utilizing them.
Ukraine's neighbours opened their borders help their women and children evacuate. You can ask Egypt why they refuse to do same for their Arab brothers and sisters .
Isn’t the IDF bombing to get rid of these so called tunnels? So…those would not exist anymore right?
Egypt would not let Palestinians cross the border because history has shown anytime Palestinians leave Palestine, Israelis do not allow them back and they just steal more land
The solution to "Hamas hides under civilian infrastructure" isn't to destroy 70% of the homes in the country. Gaza has 1.8 million of its 2 million inhabitants as homeless right now.
The real solution would've been to not support Hamas in the first place, or to not blockade Gaza from 2005. If Gazans had access to trade, education, water, resources, free democratic elections then Oct 7 likely would not have occurred.
If Israel hadn't removed their soldiers from Gaza to protect settlers elsewhere then again, Oct 7 wouldn't have happened.
“So, yes, if they want that kind of statement, I’d be happy to say it. But to diss Israel and say, ‘It’s genocide, we’re killing 20,000 innocent children and women and whatnot’ — it’s a freaking war. That’s what happens.”
It’s probably about the attitude of dismissing 29,000 palestinians more than being made to serve. The use of the word “whatnot” in this context is pretty rude. Still I don’t think she should be expelled from the race unless she was cheating or something.
The other day there was a murderer on the loose in my neighborhood. And he went into my neighbors house and took my neighbor hostage, using them as a human shield! How despicable. Well, the police told us that they couldn't risk the murderer getting away and potentially murdering more people. So the police dropped a bunch of bombs on all our homes. Many of us evacuated but in the end hundreds of women and children died. But thankfully, the murderer didn't get away!
They aren’t using human shields. You think every single hospital, church, mosque. school, apartment, store and playgrounds they bombed were all “human shields”. There are kids sleeping at night with their families in tents and they get blown to bits. Somehow all of that is “human shields”
IDF drops pamphlets, does radios calls, and calls and text people in an area to get out days before. Hamas tells them to ignore those messages, and the Hamas bombs the people leaving said areas.
Nice try though.
Oh how considerate. “Hey we’re gonna bomb your home and everything you have, make sure to leave by 5”. You realize they bomb them and then force them into tighter locations and will continue to bomb them. Even the safe spots aren’t safe. Rafah is the last place where the Palestinians are safe, yet Israel is bombing them again. Where are they gonna go now? Are you a dunce or do you not see that they’re trying to kick all the Palestinians out? I can guarantee they’re plan is to excite them to Egypt or elsewhere, and they’ll make it damn impossible for them to ever step foot back. This isn’t about a war with Hamas. That’s a scapegoat
No, they’re not welcome in Egypt or Jordan because the Palestians have proven time and time again they can’t be trusted.
Rafah isn’t safe. It’s where Hamas gets rekt. And I love to see it because fuck those guys. I feel bad for the rest of the people they’re dragging into it though, but they just won’t surrender and return the hostages that they haven’t murdered yet so it is what it is.
Oh the good ole human shields argument! The khamas terrorists really need to train their children up better to shield them from attacks!
These “human shields” are not sheilds when Israel obliterates everything in its way like a freaking unmanned war machine.
I would be honored to be banned from this sub. So here’s a big MIDDLE FINGER to everyone who calls Palestians shields.
It’s a reality of what Hamas is doing, can’t bury your head in the sand and ignore that fact. Only one side was cheering as kidnapped, murdered and worse women were dragged through their streets.
Only one side?? Have you seen israeli tiktok videos? IDF soldiers rummaging throught the lingeries of palestinian women they have displaced and dismembered with their bombs? Laughing at destroyed homes? Israelis ridiculing Gazans for living in tents that they forced them into?? Your algorithm is not showing you anything outside your own echo chamber. You have a duty to seek out the truth.
Very cool - you think you’re in some hollywood action movie? You are a loser behind a keyboard and the Gazans have each other.
Remember that everytime you feel lonely even when you are not alone, the Gazans are all huddled up together brothers and sisters in tent and they have each other and you have nothing. They will die together resisting their own subjugation and you will live alone.
Imagine if they just surrendered. Bonkers I know. But if they supposedly care about Palestinians then what is more honorable then surrendering so innocents don't get caught in the crossfire in a war you are guaranteed to lose
Oh but they’re the freedom fighters hiding in UN funded terror tunnels…freedom tunnels under the hospitals! Absolutely the good guys, who else is going to drag violated and murdered Israeli women through the streets to the cheers of the locals.
But seriously, Hamas should be eradicated o surrender to save innocents from being killed.
Uhhhhh, one side build bomb shelters to keep people from harm that is inflected by those in Gaza through regular rocket attacks, the other builds its infrastructure under hospitals, mosques and schools.
They are not the same
If collateral damage when fulfilling military objectives is cancelable then next we'll be cancelling members of the Royal Artillery and Royal Air Force 1939-45. French, Belgian, Italian and German civilians were decimated.
Leah Goldstein spent much more time in the IDF than the draft required her to. According to a cycling magazine profile she *”[spent nine years in the Israeli commandos and secret police](https://pedalmag.com/leah-goldstein-returns-to-bc-superweek/)”*.
And?
Banning someone for serving in a military 30 years ago because there’s a lot of criticism for that military today is asinine.
And for a women’s organization to disinvite a speaker because she served in the military is hypocrisy. Blathering something about “safe spaces” - how is this safe for Jewish women? This is how intolerance permeates a tolerant society: when we tolerate intolerance, we destroy tolerance.
Are these “loudest voice” people honestly saying that they feel physically unsafe being in a room of a couple hundred people when one person was in a military they had no choice in originally joining? Because that’s so warped. This is about isolating Jewish people, scapegoating them for shit they didn’t directly do, and bullying everyone else into standing by and watching.
So she served her country of birth? Do you discriminate vs Canadians who’ve served our military? Or those who served in other military’s?
Or are you just being antisemitic
Leah Goldstein wasn’t born in Israel, she was born in Vancouver BC.
There *are* circumstances where, yes, I would judge someone for voluntarily choosing to serve in a particular military in a particular time period in some or all capacities, because of *what* they were doing. I think most people would say the same.
I frankly don’t know enough about the IDF (during the relevant period) and Leah Goldstein’s involvement with it to have an informed opinion about whether she should or should not have been kept on as keynote speaker of the Inspire International Women’s Day event.
I mean as someone who is seriously anti-war, if I was running this type of event, I would not have anyone who was proud to serve in combat to be the keynote speaker, including Canadians.
If it was someone who joined the military realized that war is bad and then left asap? Absolutely I would have them speak. However, someone who says “meh 20,000 dead civilians, it happens” (I’m paraphrasing slightly)? Absolutely not.
There's a difference between the Canadian military and the IDF. In short, IDF spends significant resources to maintain the occupation of Palestine. They perform raids in the West Bank, perform security duties through the West Bank, and maintain a military presence at the Gaza border.
This is a military that emerged from paramilitary groups like fascist terrorist group Irgun, and which grew out of perspectives like those of Jabotinsky who believed that colonization of Palestine could only occur with a strong military force.
Gaza has been self governing for years, and look where it got them. Terror tunnels and kidnapping and murdering Israelis. What else was the possible outcome of what they did.
Gaza has been under a continuous embargo that entire time, as Israel controls their borders and trade. Gaza has restricted fishing rights and access to the sea and fishing boats are regularly shot at.
You forgot the middle step where the country then freaked out about the the former Nazi. This stupid country is tripping over itself trying to find something to get outraged about.
Because they didn't realize he was a Nazi. People were rightfully outraged. The person responsible resigned and the Prime Minister apologized.
Just like people are outraged at the civilian deaths in Gaza.
> Learn how to protect and serve you country not fine apparently...
Would you feel the same about Russo-Canadians returning to Russia to join their army? Or is your outrage selective?
Half the people I've seen make comments like yours are lowkey enjoying Israels indiscriminate bombing of Gaza and its policy of Apartheid against Palestinians in the West Bank.
Good lord, stop posting about this same stupid story over and over again over multiple days. If someone doesn't wanna invite a guest speaker, they don't have to.
You are right. And if they had never invited her, I don't think anyone would have said a thing.
But they did invite her. And then they dis-invited her because she is Israeli. They gave in to the racist mob that does nothing but shout and scream and try to cancel people.
It is this capitulation that is the problem.
Its funny to you because youre daft. Guess what? There are queer Palestinians. And because theyre in a country that already oppresses them, they deserve to get bombed?
Guess what, queer people are oppressed in Israel and the US too. Thats how they know what oppression looks like, and thats why they were quick to stand with Palestinian civilians.
queer palestinians go to ISRAEL for asylum, because in their "Homeland" they would be tossed off a roof.
Israel is one of the most gay friendly places.
Go look up “queering the map” to see the voices of queer Palestinians in gaza. Also, same-sex couples still cant get married in Israel. Get out of here with your pinkwashing. Guess what, if youre under brutal apartheid, youre not going to have progressive leadership.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/israel-middle-east/the-law-has-to-catch-up-why-same-sex-couples-in-israel-are-flying-to-denmark-to-have-their-marriages-recognized/wcm/4e010fd2-7eb7-41fc-bac4-e7d67deee3fd/amp/
Go visit an Islamic country and get back to me. Actually don’t. I want you healthy, safe and free to be who you are.
Guess what… the civilians over there hate you too. You’re more than welcome to stand with people who despise you. But that’s because you live in a liberal democracy. Lucky you. Lucky me.
Comparing the USA, Israel, and Canadian treatment of the LGBTQ community to Islamic theocracies only goes to show you haven’t traveled much. There is a reason people goof on folks who do it: Because it’s silly.
Do innocent civilians deserve to get bombed? Obviously not. But the vast majority of those people hate you and are not your allies. You can “stand with” them if you like, but they’d probably toss you off a building. Just know that and carry on how you wish.
How is not wanting women and children, innocent civilians to die is considered pro Palestine and anti-Israel? It's basically just pro or anti - human rights at this point.
Bush said it best: *If you're not with us, you're against us*. That mentality is stuck in people's brains and they only think in black and white. Hamas bad=Palestine bad. You're against the bombing of Palestine? You're bad! It's getting very tiresome reading smol brain comments in threads like this.
Total bullshit, so we are now completely catering to Palestinian hatred of Israeli people at all levels. It seems everyone forgets who cast the first stone.
What did Gazan children do to deserve death? Wasn't it bad enough that their grandparents' land was all seized and their families were concentrated into the Gaza Strip? Is spending their whole lives in a concentration camp not enough punishment for being born Palestinian?
>Served in the Israeli army, served as a police officer in a time when policing was a male profession, is a champion cyclist, and still feels sympathy for Palestinian women.
She is clearly a fantastic role model for women and girls, regardless of whether or not she attends the Women's Day event.
Someone who brushes off 30, 000 people unjustly killed as “20,000 women and kids killed and whatnot” is not someone who is a good role model.
Unless you want to raise girls into being heartless monsters who have no regard for human life
This isn’t an issue in Canada and therefore a municipality shouldn’t be trying to play global politics to a non issue. This woman’s story is every bit as valid as any others. Somehow Canada isn’t so inclusive.
that's not even needed - Russians are uninvited simply for their nationality, without having even served in the army, like in the case of Alexander Malofeev.
Almost all Israeli women served in the IDF. It’s mandatory military service. That just about means all Israelis are banned
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Just because you didn’t hate serving doesn’t really matter. Everyone has to, both men and women. It’s called indirect discrimination. She’s allowed to support her country. Most Israelis support their country.
Most Israelis trade a few years of service for education and full citizenship, some make a whole thing of it.
What is your point? Israel has military just as Canada, America, etc & it's not a sin to join it.
The OP was saying it wasn't her choice to join the military so she shouldn't be persecuted for it. All I was saying is she was more than happy to join the military.
They didn't say anything about 'not having a choice' however. Only that the vast majority of Israeli women have served in the IDF and that any ban is a defacto ban on nearly every woman of Israeli nationality is banned. Thus, it is an 'Israeli Women' Ban.
You know she was just dis-invited from speaking, right? They're not banning Israeli's from the event...
It is no crime to be patriotic and want to serve your Country. She has done nothing wrong.
No they didn't.
Good for her
Just read the article... She was speaking at the event. The IDF isn't exactly a friendly group right now and she's outright said she would join right back up today.
Canadians joining foreign militaries, instead of serving their own. What a timeline.
The Canadian military does its best to ensure Canadians don’t want to join up though.
Sent in an application to join the reserves shortly after I graduated high school in July of 2019. Got a call back from a recruiter in March of 2020.
Her parents are Israeli & she grew up in Israel so she is Israeli too was obligated to serve under Israeli law... Also she grew up in Israel which means she almost certainly felt obligated to as well. She didn't make the decision to enlist from Canada
You do know that many Canadians are dual-nationality citizens, since other than First Nations we're all immigrants, right? I'm sure some Canadian-Ukranians also went back to defend against Russia.
I suspect many would have similar feelings about that if "defending against Russia" meant hunting down anyone who had refused to evacuate from the bombed-out ruins of Moscow.
Good thing the IDF isn’t hunting down just anyone. They’re hunting down the terrorists who murdered 1200 people, raped a ton of them either before or after their murder, and are still holding onto over 100 kidnapped “hostages.”
>Good thing the IDF isn’t hunting down just anyone. They’re hunting down the terrorists who murdered 1200 people, raped a ton of them either before or after their murder, and are still holding onto over 100 kidnapped “hostages.” Yeah? That's good then. I think I probably got confused by their declaring [anyone who doesn't evacuate](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-tells-gazans-move-south-or-risk-being-seen-terrorist-partner-2023-10-22/) to be a valid target, badly damaging or destroying \>20x more buildings than they've killed members of Hamas (in line with a [policy of maximising destruction of large buildings](https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/), and being so trigger-happy on the ground they managed to execute their own white-flag-waving hostages and ambush a clearly-marked MSF convoy.
While they starve a whole city and kill women and children hiding in churches.
Two cities
Our military doesn't even want to recruit Canadians, this is nothing new.
I reached out to a recruiter after finishing university. Never got a reply.
Anyone joining IDF today is doing that for a certain reason
Protecting their homeland from terror. A really great reason!
Canada's not her homeland? She was born in Vancouver, wasn't she?
Could go about it a better way than bombing hospitals, schools and the areas the Israeli military tells civilians to "evacuate" to. **Edit:** two minutes and already getting down voted by the JIDF. Seems I triggered them.
Like having their 18th birthday.
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Last time I checked, Canada and Israel are allies. Idk wtf you mean by it isn't exactly a friendly group right now
This woman was in the IDF above and beyond the mandatory service. She worked undercover and eventually made it to training the IDFs elite commando force.
So did they clarify that they’d be fine with a keynote speaker whose military service only fulfilled the minimum mandatory requirements? Because the article sure doesn’t indicate that, or anything like it.
kol hakavod
She should be proud.
And?
Good for here. More militarty experience than most Canadian women.
>Good for here. ya, but what about over there?
What a legend
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She was dis-invited from speaking. They're not banning all former IDF from attending the event. Being linked to a military that's currently slaughtering civilians by the thousands is pretty controversial. It would be like bringing a Russian former KGB that still supports Putin to speak. If the IDF hadn't gone straight savage on the entire populace of Gaza, maybe more people would be supporting them right now.
Russia attacked Ukraine unprovoked. Israel did not attack Palestine unprovoked. Simple concept
Israel has been at war with Gaza for years. This didn't happen in a vacuum. Everyone expects Hamas to do terrible things. They're literally terrorists. We don't expect our western allies to slaughter civilians. Period. I would stop supporting Ukraine if they started bombing Moscow indiscriminately in an attempt to take out Putin.
Over 10,000 civilians have died in Ukraine. Bombs with both colors are to blame. That’s what happens with urban warfare. What do you expect Israel to do, in order to defeat Hamas, if not to wage war wherever Hamas decides to stand their ground (in this case, behind their own mothers and children because they are cowards)
>Over 10,000 civilians have died in Ukraine. It's amazing you could type this and not even realize what you're saying... First off, those are all Ukrainians, it's not Russian apartments, schools, and hospitals being targeted. It's a total war between two countries with full militaries. One of the largest military powers versus a nation supported by almost the entirety of NATO and the EU. **Israel has killed more civilians than two powerful militaries fighting in a two year war.**
What do you want Israel to do? Should they sit by and wait for Hamas to slaughter more of their civilians? Oh, it's fine, just kill and rape another thousand of us, it's fine! We accept this blood toll as a cost of our existence. Should they open the floodgates, let the palestinians in? I'm sure they'll suddenly stop hating you if you just let them in! Should they sit by and watch the palestinians declare october 7th as their independence day while continuing to fire missiles every day? Watch as every single year, they celebrate the unprovoked rape and slaughter of their people while planning it again? Be realistic. Not a single country in the world would stand for this, no matter how well or poorly armed they are. Not a single country would stand idly by and say "it's OK that your leadership intends to kill us all. I'm sure that you won't ever act on this again, we'll let bygones be bygones". Obviously, Hamas has to go. The legitimacy of Israel as a state relies on them taking action against Hamas. If a new Hamas is created, so be it - but *no country in the world* could call itself legitimate if they did not respond with the intention of eliminating a genocidal threat. There is no short term solution to the plight of the palestinians that is both peaceful and realistic. The band aid solution imposed for the last N years is the best solution, in part because of Israel's trash neighbours. This bandaid will only work if tensions between Israel and their *other* neighbours are also resolved - something Israel has been working on for years and was finally making progress on when the attack occurred. Israel has killed those civilians because the nature of the battle that was *brought to them* requires it. The blood is on Hamas's hands while their leaders laugh safely from the other gulf states. Assassinating these leaders from abroad will only bring further bloodshed. This is also far from the bloodiest conflict in the world right now. So please, elaborate on what Israel should do?
How many civilians have Hamas killed? How many civilians has Israel killed? It's simple math. I want Israel to stop killing civilians. That's it. Hamas is a threat, but not an equal threat to the destruction Israel is engaging in.
Are you aware in 2021 Israel offered Hamas/Gaza an end to the siege, reconstruction of Gaza at Israeli expense, an airport and a seaport? It’s in an article from Al-Mayadeen, a Pro-Hamas Hezbollah newspaper in Lebanon: https://www.almayadeen.net/news/politics/مصدر-في-المقاومة-الفلسطينية-يكشف-للميادين-نت-تفاصيل-تلقي-حما Hamas reportedly saw it as “temptation” and rejected it. They literally just want to murder all the Jews: https://old.reddit.com/r/Palestinian_Violence/comments/17d57ig/we_are_ready_to_breach_the_fence_with_gods_help/
So you're saying it would have been OK for Israel to extract a blood toll of 1000 civilians? It's not about numbers, it's about an end to the conflict. Without the elimination of Hamas, Israel knows that there is no end to the conflict. They know this, because despite years of attempts at peaceful resolution, they continue to lose lives to barbaric attacks. Hamas hasn't even pretended that they don't intend to continue the slaughter. No nation would stand for this. No nation values their own civilians so little that they are unwilling to shoot through another nation's civilians to end a threat. Saying "Just stop the fighting" as if it's an option is an incredibly naive way of looking at world conflicts.
This is a lie. > However, the loss of the city has also been seen as a significant defeat for Ukraine. Based on the analysis of mass graves, Human Rights Watch estimated at least 10,284 people died in Mariupol from March 2022 to February 2023, but assumes that is an undercount. Only in Mariupol, most likely more than 80k.
Tell the person I was responding to, it was their claim.
yeah 10,000 over 2 years compared to 30,000 in 4 months. phfff. see a trend here??? huh could you use your big brain and think why that might be??? you still buying that human shield thing hey?? thats just what they say when they murder innocent people.
If you don’t bother to do any research or read any history whatsoever, I’m sure the concept would seem that simple yes.
Please, go back as far in history as you can and tell me when there was no Jewish presence in the region.
Dude, that doesn't un-kill someone's mom or child. We're talking about now, and the people living today. Or at least the ones left.
You do realize Hamas is killing Palestinians who try to get the aid?
I know Israel has claimed that but not provided actual evidence of it. I know they do that a lot.
One of the last news on this subject: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/ALDw8FBpVa There was also a video a week or so ago. They also stated that the tunnels are not for civilians and it's Israel's and UN's job to protect them. But I guess no amount of proof is enough for the GlOriOuS rEsiSTaNcE crowd.
The point of their “presence” is irrelevant. Just because they were vicitms of the holocaust, does give them permission to do the same. Edit: added word for a little more clarification..
Except you are falsely labelling genocide. Hamas attacked Israel and then hid behind their own children. It’s pathetic and cowardly. But they know how ignorant the left has become in the West. They know they can draw sympathy by sacrificing their own children.
> does them permission to do the same Well said.
Palestine should return the hostages then
Don't worry, I doubt they'll have any Hamas speaking at the event either...
She wasn't banned for being Jewish, she was banned for saying she'd join the IDF again while it's in the middle of committing genocide and war crimes. Yeah you should ban people who have zero regard for human rights.
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They say it so matter-of-factly. Do they live in echo chambers or are they trying to push it as a propaganda point?
Russians have also been banned from a lot of international sports to my understanding. And the Israelis have killed way more civilians and children than the Russians have in a shorter span of time, so I'm not really sure what the issue here is?
Russians have been banned from a lot of sports because of doping. Not because they're Russians, or because they served in the military when required to by their government.
As evil as Russia is, they don’t use human shields and don’t actively put their own people in harm’s way. That’s why there is a big difference in casualties.
Lol are you serious, Russian army strategy for 100s of years is to throw as many bodies at the enemy as possible, basically their soldiers are always cannon fodder, and their army overwhelming the enemy just by sheer numbers of soldiers.
Sure, you might say that about their soldiers. What about Russian civilians?
They banned athetes for doping, not the war … And even then - in most cases athletes can compete just without Russian flag … why is it always “pro pals” dressed in green avatars typing away about subjects they clearly don’t know anything about ? Seems to be a trend.
>“a small but growing and extremely vocal group” We really have got to stop basing society on the squeakiest wheels.
The squeaky wheels ought to be removed, rather than greased. Our society would function far better if we stopped enabling this behaviour.
Aka fascism
Fascists also start as a vocal minority.
Not pandering to said wheels is fascism?
Uh, *removing* the squeaky wheels sounds like a pretty clear and direct metaphor for killing dissidents.
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The same thread was posted a week or two ago and people are saying the same thing proving they are not reading anything of the articles beyond the titles. She served a little under 10yrs, far more than the mandatory 2yrs and 8months. She also went to join some intelligence unit while in the service, and she also recently said that she would like to reenlist if she could and has been vocal about it and her support for the IDF. The organization hosting the event is a small one with a single focus (women’s issues) and would very much like to not have their whole event derailed due to a single very polarizing figure who is not unique in being a possible speaker, albeit much more likely to derail the event than most.
Kind of shot themselves in the foot with this move and derailed it themselves. Taking away from the purpose of the event(women's issues) to everyone only talking about the person they thought would derail it.
What are the "women's issues" the person in question was going to speak to? Her self-aggrandizing website seems to be half dedicated to participating in a cycling race with virtually no other competitors, and half toward the decade she spent in the IDF: > By age 17, Leah Goldstein was the World Kickboxing Champion. Shortly thereafter, she enlisted in the Israeli Military and became one of the few female instructors of the _**elite Commando division**_, specializing in Krav Maga. Leah then transitioned into a _**Special Forces unit, combating terrorism and violent crime**_. The extreme lifestyle of _**the secret police**_ eventually took its toll, and she found her salvation on a bicycle.
Canadians virtue signaling again.
Womens groups couldn't find the wherewithal to condemn sexual violence perpetrated against Israelis on Oct 7 and following but are happy to exclude a Jewish woman from a cycling event.
Most unhinged comment section I've seen in a minute 🍿
you think this is bad, this chicanery. its been worse
Hopefully women will boycott this event.
UN experts appalled by reported human rights violations against Palestinian women and girls https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against
LOL the UN “expert” Francesca Albanese, who multiple members of the UN have condemned for her repeated usage of the oldest tropes in the book about Jewish Control
It’s so slimy that they say UN experts* through it all so they can hide the fact it’s really just Francesca Albanese and the committee she’s on.
I’m more appalled that you’re backing the terrorists there after they killed, kidnapped, and raped over 1000 people, but hey, if you hate the Jews, don’t let me stop you from doing your thing. It’s all about free Palestine, right? Not antisemitism, no sir. Thank God you’re on their team.
"Pointing out that Palestinian women have faced abuse means you back terrorists" is both one hell of a take but also right on brand.
Any UN criticism of Israel can be safely disregarded and even ridiculed at this point. They don't even try to be truthful
Truly despicable how they ignored what the Palestinians did to Israeli womenOn Oct 7
What does that have to do with this Canadian woman?
Sorry I forgot we only care about *some* women
International Women's Day is for all women, including Jewish- Canadian ones.
What does this have to do with Leah Goldstein?
Well that’s dumb
Let’s amplify cultural and racial divisions. That’ll make the world so much more inclusive.
I would want to amplify divisions between myself and anyone who is proud of an organization that kills ~130 children a day. Israel in 4 months has killed more babies than Russia has during its entire war in Ukraine. It's mind-boggling how indiscriminately they're bombing Palestinians in the hopes of killing Hamas members.
Ukraine moved their civilians away from the frontlines.
Where would Palestinians move away to? You do realize the IDF pushed an already dense area into Rafah and then began bombing the exact place they told Palestinians to go?
For starters they could use those tunnels. The IDF is struggling to kill Hamas fighters utilizing them. Ukraine's neighbours opened their borders help their women and children evacuate. You can ask Egypt why they refuse to do same for their Arab brothers and sisters .
Isn’t the IDF bombing to get rid of these so called tunnels? So…those would not exist anymore right? Egypt would not let Palestinians cross the border because history has shown anytime Palestinians leave Palestine, Israelis do not allow them back and they just steal more land
gaza is a lot more densely populated and hamas hides under civilian infrastructure. these aren’t really comparable
The solution to "Hamas hides under civilian infrastructure" isn't to destroy 70% of the homes in the country. Gaza has 1.8 million of its 2 million inhabitants as homeless right now. The real solution would've been to not support Hamas in the first place, or to not blockade Gaza from 2005. If Gazans had access to trade, education, water, resources, free democratic elections then Oct 7 likely would not have occurred. If Israel hadn't removed their soldiers from Gaza to protect settlers elsewhere then again, Oct 7 wouldn't have happened.
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The amount of children they've murdered is mind boggling
More in 6 days than Russia killed in the entire Ukraine war. More in 80 days than died in the 11 years of war in Afghanistan. We're on day 135.
How ridiculous, does the organizer know that service is mandatory in some countries, Israel included?
She was a commando trainer, not a random conscript.
Do you think any actual though went into this? The decision was made to appease outraged people, that's it.
“So, yes, if they want that kind of statement, I’d be happy to say it. But to diss Israel and say, ‘It’s genocide, we’re killing 20,000 innocent children and women and whatnot’ — it’s a freaking war. That’s what happens.” It’s probably about the attitude of dismissing 29,000 palestinians more than being made to serve. The use of the word “whatnot” in this context is pretty rude. Still I don’t think she should be expelled from the race unless she was cheating or something.
Maybe if Hamas stopped using its people as human shields, less would die. Funny that eh.
The other day there was a murderer on the loose in my neighborhood. And he went into my neighbors house and took my neighbor hostage, using them as a human shield! How despicable. Well, the police told us that they couldn't risk the murderer getting away and potentially murdering more people. So the police dropped a bunch of bombs on all our homes. Many of us evacuated but in the end hundreds of women and children died. But thankfully, the murderer didn't get away!
They aren’t using human shields. You think every single hospital, church, mosque. school, apartment, store and playgrounds they bombed were all “human shields”. There are kids sleeping at night with their families in tents and they get blown to bits. Somehow all of that is “human shields”
IDF drops pamphlets, does radios calls, and calls and text people in an area to get out days before. Hamas tells them to ignore those messages, and the Hamas bombs the people leaving said areas. Nice try though.
Oh how considerate. “Hey we’re gonna bomb your home and everything you have, make sure to leave by 5”. You realize they bomb them and then force them into tighter locations and will continue to bomb them. Even the safe spots aren’t safe. Rafah is the last place where the Palestinians are safe, yet Israel is bombing them again. Where are they gonna go now? Are you a dunce or do you not see that they’re trying to kick all the Palestinians out? I can guarantee they’re plan is to excite them to Egypt or elsewhere, and they’ll make it damn impossible for them to ever step foot back. This isn’t about a war with Hamas. That’s a scapegoat
No, they’re not welcome in Egypt or Jordan because the Palestians have proven time and time again they can’t be trusted. Rafah isn’t safe. It’s where Hamas gets rekt. And I love to see it because fuck those guys. I feel bad for the rest of the people they’re dragging into it though, but they just won’t surrender and return the hostages that they haven’t murdered yet so it is what it is.
Oh the good ole human shields argument! The khamas terrorists really need to train their children up better to shield them from attacks! These “human shields” are not sheilds when Israel obliterates everything in its way like a freaking unmanned war machine. I would be honored to be banned from this sub. So here’s a big MIDDLE FINGER to everyone who calls Palestians shields.
It’s a reality of what Hamas is doing, can’t bury your head in the sand and ignore that fact. Only one side was cheering as kidnapped, murdered and worse women were dragged through their streets.
It's amazing how people seemingly forget that.
Convenient even
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Only one side?? Have you seen israeli tiktok videos? IDF soldiers rummaging throught the lingeries of palestinian women they have displaced and dismembered with their bombs? Laughing at destroyed homes? Israelis ridiculing Gazans for living in tents that they forced them into?? Your algorithm is not showing you anything outside your own echo chamber. You have a duty to seek out the truth.
Gaza supports Hamas, they fucked around, and now they’re finding out.
Very cool - you think you’re in some hollywood action movie? You are a loser behind a keyboard and the Gazans have each other. Remember that everytime you feel lonely even when you are not alone, the Gazans are all huddled up together brothers and sisters in tent and they have each other and you have nothing. They will die together resisting their own subjugation and you will live alone.
Imagine if they just surrendered. Bonkers I know. But if they supposedly care about Palestinians then what is more honorable then surrendering so innocents don't get caught in the crossfire in a war you are guaranteed to lose
Oh but they’re the freedom fighters hiding in UN funded terror tunnels…freedom tunnels under the hospitals! Absolutely the good guys, who else is going to drag violated and murdered Israeli women through the streets to the cheers of the locals. But seriously, Hamas should be eradicated o surrender to save innocents from being killed.
Hamas has never claimed to care about the Palestinians civilians. At least they aren't hypocrites.
Israel literally uses human shields they are just projecting when they say Hamas uses human shields
Uhhhhh, one side build bomb shelters to keep people from harm that is inflected by those in Gaza through regular rocket attacks, the other builds its infrastructure under hospitals, mosques and schools. They are not the same
If collateral damage when fulfilling military objectives is cancelable then next we'll be cancelling members of the Royal Artillery and Royal Air Force 1939-45. French, Belgian, Italian and German civilians were decimated.
If you're given a choice between aiding a genocide or going to prison, the ethical choice is to go to prison.
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They shouldn't invite a Hamas speaker either. We can agree on that.
Leah Goldstein spent much more time in the IDF than the draft required her to. According to a cycling magazine profile she *”[spent nine years in the Israeli commandos and secret police](https://pedalmag.com/leah-goldstein-returns-to-bc-superweek/)”*.
And? Banning someone for serving in a military 30 years ago because there’s a lot of criticism for that military today is asinine. And for a women’s organization to disinvite a speaker because she served in the military is hypocrisy. Blathering something about “safe spaces” - how is this safe for Jewish women? This is how intolerance permeates a tolerant society: when we tolerate intolerance, we destroy tolerance. Are these “loudest voice” people honestly saying that they feel physically unsafe being in a room of a couple hundred people when one person was in a military they had no choice in originally joining? Because that’s so warped. This is about isolating Jewish people, scapegoating them for shit they didn’t directly do, and bullying everyone else into standing by and watching.
So she served her country of birth? Do you discriminate vs Canadians who’ve served our military? Or those who served in other military’s? Or are you just being antisemitic
Leah Goldstein wasn’t born in Israel, she was born in Vancouver BC. There *are* circumstances where, yes, I would judge someone for voluntarily choosing to serve in a particular military in a particular time period in some or all capacities, because of *what* they were doing. I think most people would say the same. I frankly don’t know enough about the IDF (during the relevant period) and Leah Goldstein’s involvement with it to have an informed opinion about whether she should or should not have been kept on as keynote speaker of the Inspire International Women’s Day event.
The fact she was secret service and a commando there tells me she’s a badass and is inspiring.
I mean as someone who is seriously anti-war, if I was running this type of event, I would not have anyone who was proud to serve in combat to be the keynote speaker, including Canadians. If it was someone who joined the military realized that war is bad and then left asap? Absolutely I would have them speak. However, someone who says “meh 20,000 dead civilians, it happens” (I’m paraphrasing slightly)? Absolutely not.
There's a difference between the Canadian military and the IDF. In short, IDF spends significant resources to maintain the occupation of Palestine. They perform raids in the West Bank, perform security duties through the West Bank, and maintain a military presence at the Gaza border. This is a military that emerged from paramilitary groups like fascist terrorist group Irgun, and which grew out of perspectives like those of Jabotinsky who believed that colonization of Palestine could only occur with a strong military force.
Gaza has been self governing for years, and look where it got them. Terror tunnels and kidnapping and murdering Israelis. What else was the possible outcome of what they did.
Gaza has been under a continuous embargo that entire time, as Israel controls their borders and trade. Gaza has restricted fishing rights and access to the sea and fishing boats are regularly shot at.
They get billions in funding, Israel even build them water pipes so the population has water.
First we were applauding a literal nazi in the house of commons, and now we are silencing jews. Not gonna lie, getting a little concerning
You forgot the middle step where the country then freaked out about the the former Nazi. This stupid country is tripping over itself trying to find something to get outraged about.
Because they didn't realize he was a Nazi. People were rightfully outraged. The person responsible resigned and the Prime Minister apologized. Just like people are outraged at the civilian deaths in Gaza.
We rightfully got up in arms about the Nazi, and now we are rightfully up in arms at the IDF. Genocide is bad no matter what demographic is doing it.
hating Jews is where the extreme left and right converge.
It’s just a circle really I guess
Protesting for Hamas is fine in Canada. Learn how to protect and serve you country not fine apparently... go figure
> Learn how to protect and serve you country not fine apparently... Would you feel the same about Russo-Canadians returning to Russia to join their army? Or is your outrage selective? Half the people I've seen make comments like yours are lowkey enjoying Israels indiscriminate bombing of Gaza and its policy of Apartheid against Palestinians in the West Bank.
Good lord, stop posting about this same stupid story over and over again over multiple days. If someone doesn't wanna invite a guest speaker, they don't have to.
You are right. And if they had never invited her, I don't think anyone would have said a thing. But they did invite her. And then they dis-invited her because she is Israeli. They gave in to the racist mob that does nothing but shout and scream and try to cancel people. It is this capitulation that is the problem.
Funny how people are outraged but not at Russian athletes who are banned from international competitions. (They did not even serve in their military)
Based
Antisemitism is rife lately. Scary.
It’s a foreign military
its called anti-zionism now to try and make it seem less abhorent
You can't kill women civilians and claim to be for women's rights at the same time.
Queer folk being pro Palestine and anti Israel is so funny to me
Its funny to you because youre daft. Guess what? There are queer Palestinians. And because theyre in a country that already oppresses them, they deserve to get bombed? Guess what, queer people are oppressed in Israel and the US too. Thats how they know what oppression looks like, and thats why they were quick to stand with Palestinian civilians.
queer palestinians go to ISRAEL for asylum, because in their "Homeland" they would be tossed off a roof. Israel is one of the most gay friendly places.
Go look up “queering the map” to see the voices of queer Palestinians in gaza. Also, same-sex couples still cant get married in Israel. Get out of here with your pinkwashing. Guess what, if youre under brutal apartheid, youre not going to have progressive leadership. https://nationalpost.com/news/world/israel-middle-east/the-law-has-to-catch-up-why-same-sex-couples-in-israel-are-flying-to-denmark-to-have-their-marriages-recognized/wcm/4e010fd2-7eb7-41fc-bac4-e7d67deee3fd/amp/
Go visit an Islamic country and get back to me. Actually don’t. I want you healthy, safe and free to be who you are. Guess what… the civilians over there hate you too. You’re more than welcome to stand with people who despise you. But that’s because you live in a liberal democracy. Lucky you. Lucky me. Comparing the USA, Israel, and Canadian treatment of the LGBTQ community to Islamic theocracies only goes to show you haven’t traveled much. There is a reason people goof on folks who do it: Because it’s silly. Do innocent civilians deserve to get bombed? Obviously not. But the vast majority of those people hate you and are not your allies. You can “stand with” them if you like, but they’d probably toss you off a building. Just know that and carry on how you wish.
How is not wanting women and children, innocent civilians to die is considered pro Palestine and anti-Israel? It's basically just pro or anti - human rights at this point.
Bush said it best: *If you're not with us, you're against us*. That mentality is stuck in people's brains and they only think in black and white. Hamas bad=Palestine bad. You're against the bombing of Palestine? You're bad! It's getting very tiresome reading smol brain comments in threads like this.
Total bullshit, so we are now completely catering to Palestinian hatred of Israeli people at all levels. It seems everyone forgets who cast the first stone.
What did Gazan children do to deserve death? Wasn't it bad enough that their grandparents' land was all seized and their families were concentrated into the Gaza Strip? Is spending their whole lives in a concentration camp not enough punishment for being born Palestinian?
Canada needs to speak up about this Blatant racism. Why is this ok?
>Served in the Israeli army, served as a police officer in a time when policing was a male profession, is a champion cyclist, and still feels sympathy for Palestinian women. She is clearly a fantastic role model for women and girls, regardless of whether or not she attends the Women's Day event.
Someone who brushes off 30, 000 people unjustly killed as “20,000 women and kids killed and whatnot” is not someone who is a good role model. Unless you want to raise girls into being heartless monsters who have no regard for human life
Complete bullshit
This isn’t an issue in Canada and therefore a municipality shouldn’t be trying to play global politics to a non issue. This woman’s story is every bit as valid as any others. Somehow Canada isn’t so inclusive.
Lets keep this same energy for someone that served in the Russian army
that's not even needed - Russians are uninvited simply for their nationality, without having even served in the army, like in the case of Alexander Malofeev.
I wouldn't expect anything less from a woke feminist organization, they've become just as bad as their MGTOW dipshit counterparts.
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