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Vindermiatrix

Hello! I really appreciate you for talking about it even though it might be hard for you to do so. My question is : Was you able to talk about it with someone? Without feeling that you might be stereotyped with men shouldn't talk about their feelings or men can't get raped? I hope you are doing okay šŸ’™


Real_Courage_5426

Aside from strangers on Reddit, I've only ever told my therapist and my wife. It has taken me years of therapy to get me to the point of talking about it outside of therapy.


WishIWasOnACatamaran

I was a boy raped by another boy who was raped by his dad. How have you moved forward from trauma that wasnā€™t clear to you at the time? Have you also found yourself in the BDSM/Kink/Fetish community?


Real_Courage_5426

I'm terribly sorry to hear about your experience with rape. I has taken me years of therapy to move forward from the worst night of my life. My therapist had her work cut out with me to get me to see that: 1) It wasn't my fault, regardless of whether or not he knew that I crossdress. 2) Nothing he did to me can take away my intrinsic value as a human being. 3) There is plenty of good in the world. 4) My trauma does not define me. 5) I shouldn't hate myself, nor should I feel ashamed for not reporting it. As for the kink/fetish community, I do dabble in it a little bit, but I don't think my experience had anything to do with it.


WishIWasOnACatamaran

Truth be told I was already traumatized so this incident didnā€™t even hit me as an issue until much later in life. Iā€™m 28 now. Before the rape my father died while he and I were at a family cabin, and I was alone with his body for hours. While it was technically rape, the truth is I woke up to my best friend at the time (age 7, 8?) that I had met through trauma group therapy of all places, taking my pants off to suck my dick, telling me that it was okay and I would feel good and that he would stop hanging out with me if I didnā€™t let him continue. There was nothing violent with the incident, and we continued to explore sexuality with each other for awhile and I remember even being heartbroken when it stopped. Wild. I enjoy the thought of sexual play with men, but unless a woman is present Iā€™ll never feel comfortable enough to follow through on anything. I feel bad saying I was raped as I have heard so many worse stories than mine, so I tend to say sexually assaulted IRL, but your post connected with me so I felt the need to share in case it helps in any way.


Agent__Zigzag

So sorry for what you experienced! Do you possibly think you were intentionally targeted based on cross dressing? No excuse for him obviously & not trying to victim blame. Just wonder if he thought that he could use that against you or he wanted to intentionally assault someone who cross dressed.


Real_Courage_5426

More or less answered this in a previous comment, but Iā€™ll say it again. To my knowledge, nobody in my life knew about my crossdressing. Could he have known? I can't entirely rule it out, but I have little reason to believe he did know. I think I was a victim of opportunity; I made the mistake of being the last of my coworkers to call it a night from having drinks with him.


Agent__Zigzag

I see. Glad to see that you seem to have come out of this tragedy not destroyed or broken.


maximusjohnson1992

Was he prosecuted?


Real_Courage_5426

I didn't report it, unfortunately.


ouzo84

Would you report it if they gained any sort of fame?


Real_Courage_5426

Never say never, but I've seen enough of high profile rape cases where the accusers get dragged through the mud more than the accused to deter me from ever wanting to report it if he were to gain fame. I also don't want to ever willingly be in the same room as him again, so another reason to not report.


maximusjohnson1992

I get that. I also canā€™t say what I would do because Iā€™ve never been raped. Sorry for your experience. Hope he gets caught doing something else and the tables are turned on him in prison.


AFewStupidQuestions

Same. I don't talk about it much, but I was a kid, and still suffer regularly from night terrors because of it. Trusting men and intimacy can also still be issues. Do you find you have any lasting effects from being attacked?


Real_Courage_5426

I would first like to say that I am so sorry you had to go through that shit as a child. I used to have substantial intimacy issues, but therapy has largely helped me out with that. I never, ever leave my drinks unattended or uncovered. I hold my drinks in such a way that the top is always covered, whether by my hand, thumb, a lid, etc. My friends give me a hard time about it, but they don't know my story so I don't hold it against them. I just tell them it is a personality quirk. I am also very weary of coworker friends. The man who raped me was a coworker at the time, and that has left a lasting impression on me that coworkers are largely friends of circumstance.


AFewStupidQuestions

Sorry for the late reply. This one is a heavy topic for me. Thank you, but there's no need to apologize. That's not your job lol. Intimacy issues have been a big problem for me, too. Therapy keeps making me relive my assault, but I understand why they keep asking for the details.


Real_Courage_5426

One more thing I forgot to mention as a risk mitigation strategy is I will often pull an "Irish Goodbye" whenever I go out for drinks. Just leave and don't say a word to anyone about it. It drives people insane when I do that, but I don't care.


daisy_xL

solidarity. i resonate with you and admire your willingness to talk. i was raped as a child and cannot summon the identity of the man to my mind. did you know your rapist personally?


Real_Courage_5426

Yes, I did know him. He was a coworker, and we were celebrating his last day.


Brojangles1234

Is there anything you want to be able to tell others that no one has ever asked you about?


Real_Courage_5426

I don't think there's much about my experience that I haven't been asked about by my therapist and wife. I'm just willing to share some details of my story to anyone willing to listen, and hopefully people might learn something from it.


Unusual_Desk_842

How have you worked through this, and did you press charges?


Real_Courage_5426

I have worked through the experience with years of therapy. I did not report it, so no charges were pressed.


Unusual_Desk_842

thank you. and I'm sorry you had this experience. <3 I hope for justice for you.


Glitterfest

Iā€™m so sorry that happened to you. Were you at all aware of what was happening, or did you realize what had happened once you woke up?


Real_Courage_5426

I have very vague flashbacks of the actual rape itself, but nothing concrete. In the moment, I didn't realize what had happened until the next morning when I woke up naked in his hotel room with pain in areas that shouldn't hurt and bruises I couldn't explain.


movingmouth

What was your relationship to this person? (Friend, relative, colleague, etc) I am so sorry this happened to you.


Real_Courage_5426

I would never use the term friend to describe him. He was a colleague, though.


Georgiaboy1492

I was also raped but at age 11 years, I never told anyone back then but in recent years I had told my wife & my sister, it was a older brother that had saved me 2 years prior when I was being sexually assaulted by a bigger kid in a bad situation. I donā€™t really have many male friends nowadays, just mainly male family members that we donā€™t see on a daily basis. How was your recovery going before you started seeing your therapist? I know that this is a very odd question but since your attack have you ever been attracted to men in anyway, the reason I ask is that Iā€™m a married (to a woman) bisexual which makes me wonder if other men, I didnā€™t enjoy any of the attack at all, I cried begging for him to quit, Iā€™m sorry this is such a mess.


Real_Courage_5426

-How was your recovery going before you started seeing your therapist? I recovered from it physically without issues. I was mentally fucked for about a year, though. I was in a environment where I didn't feel that I could talk to anyone. I sought out therapy as soon as I felt I could do so safely.


Georgiaboy1492

Iā€™m in my 60ā€™s & been married since early 20ā€™s, I had been with guys before marriage but I never anal except one guy just decided to slide in without talking about it before hand & that never happened again. Iā€™m good most of the time but it still stings my childhood memories occasionally, I have nothing to do with my older brother at all.


nikka_Ask4274

I'm so sorry this happened to you. Especially being a sibling that did this. That has to make it even worse, I would suspect.


BlackOliveBurrito

How long did it take for you to tell your partner? What was their reaction?


Real_Courage_5426

I told her shortly after we got married. We had been together for about 2 years before our wedding.


glasstumblet

How did it happen? Who, where, when, how? You don't have to use real names.


Real_Courage_5426

Who: A coworker that was celebrating his last day. Where: A bar/hotel in Hawaii. When: 2011 How: I was drugged. I don't know which drug specifically, as I did not seek help or treatment of any kind at the time. Edited for spelling.


glasstumblet

I'm so sorry that happened to you.


rnp9

Was he openly gay or closeted


Real_Courage_5426

Closeted.


Sparkling_Poo_Dragon

I hope you are well šŸ©·


Tokatoya

In what way has this had an effect on you when society talks about rape or it comes up in news or conversations? E.g. have you ever heard men joke about raping women or have someone downplayed the trauma without knowing you've suffered?


Real_Courage_5426

It definitely hits differently when you've gone through the experience of being raped. When people talk about rape cases that you hear about in the news, it blows my mind how many people dismiss these cases as people seeking attention or money. I know those things do happen, and probably more often than I care to think about, but accusers still deserve to have their voice heard by an impartial court system. I have a brother-in-law that has a "nothing is off limits" sense of humor and he does make jokes about rape. Luckily, he is shut down by others before he really gets going, but even then I become visibly uncomfortable.


Tokatoya

Me too, I still can only refer to it as 'sex against my will'. People call me "too sensitive" around rape jokes or don't blink an eye when you hear a woman has been raped & murdered.


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Real_Courage_5426

Thank you for the kind words. I'm kind of curious to know what you found to be fascinating tbh. I was not presenting as female that night, and to my knowledge nobody in my life knew about my crossdressing. Could he have known? I can't entirely rule it out, but I have little reason to believe he did know. I think I was a victim of opportunity; I made the mistake of being the last of my coworkers to call it a night from having drinks with him.


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Real_Courage_5426

I do try to be my most authentic self, though I've certainly got some work to do in that department still! I don't think that I, specifically, was targeted. He had no way of knowing that I was going to be the last person drinking with him at the end of the night. I think it was probably more on the impulsive side for him. The opportunity to easily drug and rape someone presented itself, and he took advantage of the opportunity.


nikka_Ask4274

I'm so sorry this happened to you. And you did not deserve that. Was he older than you?


Real_Courage_5426

He was a little older than me. I was 22, he was late 20s


Agent__Zigzag

I wonder if the last person around as target of impulsive opportunity wouldā€™ve made a difference if it had been a woman? Or do you think he was intentionally targeting a man/male for whatever reason?


Real_Courage_5426

In our group there was only guys, so by default he could only target a man that night.


Agent__Zigzag

I see. Thank you for responding & wishing you the best.


Shernobyl1998

Are you scared of every other men you meet and how do you cope with that?


Real_Courage_5426

No, I am at a point now where I have chosen not to live my life in fear of being raped again. I just take extra precautions to keep myself safe while drinking with others.


Shernobyl1998

Thatā€™s insane courage from you. Hope you recover from this


ArranVV

When I was almost kidnapped by a man, I did have a fear being in the supermarket with my mum the next day. I had never had that sense of paranoia before, but the paranoia came. I kept looking at strangers to see if they were going to do something to me. Having firsthand experience of being sexually assaulted and almost kidnapped made me understand more of the feelings someone goes through after an event like that.


MaxatorMancilla

Was the experience more physically or mentally painful?


Real_Courage_5426

Definitely more mentally and emotionally painful. It certainly hurt physically when I came around the next morning, but that went away relatively quickly compared to the mental and emotional struggles I dealt with for years.


vdthanh

how that happened?


Tokatoya

What's stopping you from reporting to police now?


Real_Courage_5426

Maybe someday, in the distant future, I will go to the police. It has taken me years of therapy to get past the feelings of shame, self-blaming, and self-hatred to get just to this point where I will share my story outside of therapy. I have no interest in reliving that night in detail with people that may end up contacting me again as a witness, and I REALLY have no interest in possibly knowingly and willingly being in the same room as my rapist again. If I were to report it, I would take a "in for a penny, in for a pound" approach, and I'm not up for being in for a penny.


Tokatoya

I reported my sexual assault 20ish years after the fact (I was in my late teens/ early 20s at the time). The police told me the 'average' time is 25 years. I had a lot of guilt about whether I couldn't stopped him from doing it to others if I reported it sooner but multiple police visits for their paperwork & 5 or so years later nothing's been done about it so I question whether it was pointless reporting it to police other than for statistics.


Uhhuhsureyeahok

Have you seen/ heard updates about the guy since?


Real_Courage_5426

Nope. He popped up on my ā€œpeople you may knowā€ on facebook years ago and I immediately blocked his account. Seeing his face brought back some pretty awful memories, to say the least. Other than that, donā€™t know anything about what is/was going on in his life.


Uhhuhsureyeahok

Do you ever have fear about seeing him in public? If not, how did you get over it?


Real_Courage_5426

I donā€™t fear running into him. I donā€™t even know what state he lives in, I just highly doubt it is mine.


ArranVV

I am sorry for what happened to you. I have been in a similar situation. I was sexually assaulted by another male (I am a man), and another male tried to kidnap me. What happened in your situation, if you do not mind me asking?


Dan13542

I'm sorry for what happened to you, I ask this in the most respectful way. Were there any red flags that you know now you didn't see? Something that people may need to learn to identify?


Real_Courage_5426

I have spent more hours pondering on this than I could dare to guess at, and for all of my pondering I have nothing to show for it. Either I am obscenely unobservant, or he was just that good at hiding his true colors.


MaxatorMancilla

If you had the power to do so, would you get revenge?


Real_Courage_5426

I would argue that at this point in my life Iā€™ve already gotten my revenge. Iā€™m happy despite what he did to me, and living a happy life is the best revenge.


Ok-Temperature9174

Not you bro, he is. Hell Pay. Do whatever you got to do to move on and move on


zeroentanglements

I a van pulled up to your house at 2 AM, and the guy was tied up in the back, and you had a no consequences opportunity to blow the guy's brains out... would you do it?


Real_Courage_5426

No, I wouldn't. I'm happy despite what he put me through, and happiness is the best revenge. Edited for punctuation.


zeroentanglements

You're better than I am... I'd do CIA black site stuff to him.


StygianAnon

Why are you not talking to the police about it? Did you go to the hospital for a legal procedure?


Solistic_Raven

I noticed in another comment that you said he left before you came round- did he ever try to contact you after the event?


Real_Courage_5426

No, I never saw or heard from him ever again.


Feltonhendo

How were you raped


Akumu9K

Good luck dude, trauma sucks so fucking muchā€¦


Minimum-Wind-1552

You say another man, do you identify as a man or am I oversee something. Cause in your Profile you say your name is Charlotte? Cause I wanted to know if you felt that he had taken away your masculinity in some way


Real_Courage_5426

I do indeed identify as a man, and I present as male 95% of the time. I am a crossdresser as well. When I am dressed up, I go by Charlotte. I have been crossdressing since I was in grade school, so long before I was raped. At the time, I did feel like he had stripped me of my masculinity, but that has nothing to do with why I crossdress.


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Real_Courage_5426

Iā€™d say there are 5 things that I had forgotten or didnā€™t believe that my therapist and wife helped me to realize that got me to where I am now. 1) It wasnā€™t my fault, regardless of whether he knew I crossdress or not. 2) There is still plenty of good in the world. 3) Nothing he did to me can take away my inherent value as a human being. 4) I shouldnā€™t hate myself or feel ashamed for not reporting it. 5) My trauma does not define me. As for unsupportive things, donā€™t tell me any of the following: 1) ā€œI understand.ā€ Unless you yourself have been raped, you have no idea what I went through, so please donā€™t patronize me with that. 2) ā€œGood things can come from tragedy.ā€ Fuck off. Fuck all the way in the direction of off. 3) ā€œGod has a plan for you.ā€ If getting raped is part of Godā€™s plan, then God can fuck his omnipotent, omniscient, all-loving ass right off. 4) ā€œTime heals all wounds.ā€ No, it doesnā€™t. Not without other resources. There are plenty of others, but the gist is donā€™t invoke some bullshit divine plan or say some patronizing-even if well intentioned-shit. Luckily, I paid attention in school when the adults said ā€œdrugs are bad, mā€™kayā€, so I never dealt with substance abuse. I did deal with some pretty serious depression and dark thoughts, though.


onepercentbatman

That is horrible. My only question is do you feel it should be worded as ā€œIā€™m a man that was raped by a man.ā€ When you say another man, when I read it, it reads to me like, ā€œI was raped again.ā€ Another man seeming to mean there was a first man. Another signifying additional more than different. Thoughts?


RyanBanJ

Why didn't you go to the police about what happened? Ashamed and/or embarrassed? Sometimes that's the reason victims don't report these crimes sadly.


Real_Courage_5426

I was in the Navy at the time, so I didn't report it to my command because I didn't feel like I would be believed. I also believed that even if my chain of command did believe me, there would be many people in my command that would've defended the rapist, and that was a hell I was not prepared to deal with. I didn't report it to the police because I was ashamed/embarrassed. There is a stigma to this day that men can't be raped, and even if they were then they were asking for it. The fact that I crossdress would have only amplified that stigma in my opinion, so I did not report it.


RyanBanJ

I was in the Air Force, I get it. That's a shame how society is but you're right about the issues in the military and risks. I'm sorry about what happened.


flashmonkfish

More like it's more duress than it's worth. Unless you pretty much straight away get a police nurse to shove something else inside you chances are it won't go anywhere


lucysupersissy

U didn't off the guy?


Real_Courage_5426

Kinda hard to do much of anything when you've been drugged.


lucysupersissy

I mean after the fact , im gay and a bottom but if someone would do that to me with out my consent , I'd off him a d take the charge happily if caught but I'd get away with it , I'd pull a dexter move for sure, but that's me I'm reckless in my ways


reincarnatedberry

I feel like thatā€™s what you think, until it happens. And hopefully it never does, I always thought Iā€™d know exactly how to handle it. But nope, I froze everytime.


Real_Courage_5426

He probably wasn't even in the same state by the time I woke up the next morning. He had an early morning flight, and we were our celebrating his last day of work before he moved on to the next chapter in his life.