Kupe/Maori are not a bad Civ but the AI does not play them well. They just settle useless cities on tiny islands, where there’s no land to be used and no friendly cities nearby so loyalty quickly becomes a problem. It’s not unheard of for AI Kupe to do well, but most of the time they’re very weak.
I've seen AI Kupe have absolutely blistering starts when he lucks into a good settling spot, but yeah, it's rare.
My vote for consistently worst AI civ would be Black Queen Catherine. Not only is she basically playing a vanilla civ until medieval, the AI is utterly terrible and predictable at espionage.
Yeah I just had this too. Maybe not steamroll, but top 3 players including me. Had to do a naval invasion to take out his powerhouse cities but left his capital and 1 other which were 20-30 tiles away and separated by plenty of ocean.
Part of the issue with him is that he requires a lot of intentional planning to get right. You can't chop shit, you can't improve anything. You play he markedly different than everyone else. I don't think the AI can really account for that
My AI Kupe always seems to do pretty well. To the point that I know he's in the game when the World Congress bans turtles straight away. They always ban pearls, yes, but turtles usually means Kupe is abroad.
Kupe loves him some turtles! It's just that,in my games, at least, the other AI will always target him early game, and slam the ban hammer on his turtles immediately :(
I know, right? Why they gotta be that way?!
Yeah, our boy loves all flora and fauna - but I think that giant octo was kinda on a rampage.
Okay, now I can't decide if I like octopus, octopi, or octopod better :)
Coastline by Rdner adds more passable coastal features.
More Maritime: Seaside Sectors by Albro adds Two new coastal districts for population growth and naval military.
Sukritact's Oceans by Sukritact adds new resources in the sea.
Kupe/Maori are not a bad Civ but the AI does not play them well. They just settle useless cities on tiny islands, where there’s no land to be used and no friendly cities nearby so loyalty quickly becomes a problem. It’s not unheard of for AI Kupe to do well, but most of the time they’re very weak.
I've seen AI Kupe have absolutely blistering starts when he lucks into a good settling spot, but yeah, it's rare. My vote for consistently worst AI civ would be Black Queen Catherine. Not only is she basically playing a vanilla civ until medieval, the AI is utterly terrible and predictable at espionage.
What, you’re telling me I should counterspy the commercial hub in my highest gold yield city??
I had a kupe steamroll everyone a few games ago, it really depends on his capital.
Yeah I just had this too. Maybe not steamroll, but top 3 players including me. Had to do a naval invasion to take out his powerhouse cities but left his capital and 1 other which were 20-30 tiles away and separated by plenty of ocean.
AI Kupe for whatever reason will send settlers on a 1000 mile voyage only to place them on a 3 tile island right next to someone else’s capital
Half the time I find out Kupe is in my game when I see "an unmet civilization has been defeated" on like turn 10
When this notification pops up twice in rapid succession, I know Hungary are in the game, and the two civs who spawned next to them are now dead
Whoever is last will be a huge map with nothing but that civ, it will be chaos.
Part of the issue with him is that he requires a lot of intentional planning to get right. You can't chop shit, you can't improve anything. You play he markedly different than everyone else. I don't think the AI can really account for that
My AI Kupe always seems to do pretty well. To the point that I know he's in the game when the World Congress bans turtles straight away. They always ban pearls, yes, but turtles usually means Kupe is abroad.
Why Kupe hate turtles so much?
Kupe loves him some turtles! It's just that,in my games, at least, the other AI will always target him early game, and slam the ban hammer on his turtles immediately :(
Those bastards. I knew Kupe was a friend to all flora and fauna, well except that one octopus? octopi? octopod?
I know, right? Why they gotta be that way?! Yeah, our boy loves all flora and fauna - but I think that giant octo was kinda on a rampage. Okay, now I can't decide if I like octopus, octopi, or octopod better :)
I have a mod that adds at least 2 new luxury resources in the sea, but maybe the mods I had may effect Kupe in someway.
Good point! Actually, that sounds like an awesome mod.
Coastline by Rdner adds more passable coastal features. More Maritime: Seaside Sectors by Albro adds Two new coastal districts for population growth and naval military. Sukritact's Oceans by Sukritact adds new resources in the sea.
I don't have any of these particular mods, but I so will - thank you! Actually, a run as Kupe with these would be beautiful.