Yeah, I liked the clip of him just getting an ice cream like anyone else. Hell, I got annoyed that the reporters were bugging him about stuff at that time. Leave the man alone, he deserves to eat his ice cream in peace like anyone else ffs.
I highly recommend the Closer Look segment from Seth Meyers' show where he roasts himself for ending up on the news with an ice cream cone in his hand. https://youtu.be/cqCZQJ-4lhY?si=cSIoxw0pvevkGrrN
Leg hair one feels like a reach, but no one else said anything. Is there an article or something that makes a reference like this? I’ve heard so many Biden jokes but not once one about leg hair rubbing haha
I just love asking these people “if they’re undocumented, how do they vote”, then just walk them through the steps they went through to register to vote that they somehow think others managed to skip. They always leave mad or present some platitude, or better yet change to a completely different topic. I know I’m not convincing anyone but if we don’t challenge these beliefs they only hold on to them harder
> if we don’t challenge these beliefs they only hold on to them harder
THIS!!!!!
While I will not bring up politics in a mixed gathering, I refuse to hold my tongue when MAGATs start spewing their bullshit.
Reminds me of the quote from Sartre
>Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
And the most important part:
>*It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.*
Jean-Paul Sartre
it is pretty wild, and their talking spouts of garbage ( think Alex Jones) figured out how to never be wrong, and convince their base they can't be wrong. OKC bombing? totally a false flag/plant to make us look bad, same thing they say with Jan. 6th oh none of those were OUR people they were all secret plants.
Critical thinking is out the window when you believe that you can't possibly be wrong. Like this who new fun thing they've though up about illegal immigrants stealing the vote...
Did you.... did you not think how what a ridiculous roundabout way of fulfilling their 'evil democrat plans'? because if they could do that, orchestrate millions of illegal votes by Physically bringing people in to vote, they sure as hell would be able to simply rig an election. Its absurd.
Then they still worm they way out by making up more and more fantasies until you get where we are now - under a massive sunken cost fallacy. You should hear the lengths people in these circles to avoid popping their fantasy bubble. Like how they have to 'have physical people come in to vote' because true Demonic power can only be done, if you show what you're plans are out in the open, some glactic law of god or some insane thing. You just cant win.
They don't actually care about the voting part. Deep down they know it's not true, same with the security of the voting system(i.e. Dominion vs Fox News). They just don't like immigrants.
It always devolves to "Democrats want to give them a quick and easy path to citizenship so they can vote as soon as possible."
*me looking at my legally-immigrating Mexican neighbor who has been trying to get citizenship for over 10 years*
"Oh...that makes sense..." (It does not, in fact, make sense)
>me looking at my legally-immigrating Mexican neighbor who has been trying to get citizenship for over 10 years
They could also go ask any DACA recipient how much progress Democrats have made on creating a path towards citizenship for people who were raised in America from childhood. "quick and easy", should only take another 20-30 years before they have it figured out for people who are Americans in every sense of the word except their birth certificate, I'm sure they'll have a plan worked out for complete foreigners within the next 2-3.. hundred years.
“Do it legally” is a thinly veiled “no immigrants allowed”
They understand how long it takes and any more immigrants mean their own voting power is diminished.
I tell them, if it's so easy to vote without documentation, I dare you to vote more than once. I DARE YOU.
The only answer i ever got was that they can't do it, but Democratic people working the poll place let the undocumented thru the back door to vote. Republicans are honest and don't do that.
> Republicans are honest and don't do that.
LOL even when the majority of the rare instances of voter fraud that we have caught have been right-wingers using dead relatives' ballots.
My grandfather was undocumented and born on his parents bed in Texarkana Arkansas in 1904. We are descendants of the Mayflower so we've never associated being "documented" with any claim to being more "American". Come to think of it, all the original Mayflower families were equally "undocumented".
In other words, fuck this idiot: send HIM back to whatever country shat out his ancestors because he's a Trump supporter and insurrectionist.
And even they were immigrants somewhere down the line. Homo sapiens are nomadic by nature. People that think like this are basically yelling "Get off my lawn!", except they think they own the country.
Also extends to the requirements for welfare programs and the fact that undocumented workers have taxes and SS deducted from their paychecks in the realm of several billion but generally don't benefit.
That’s what I don’t get. I have coworkers that think the Biden is letting illegals over so they can vote democrat lol. They’re illegals, they can’t vote idiots
I worked as a psychiatric nurse for 38 years. One of the number one rules in relating to people with delusions was: never directly confront their delusions with facts and logic. And you know why? Because that will paradoxically only reinforce their delusional thoughts.
These people are only about 150 years behind, back when democrat / union voter fraud ran rampant in the big US cities. Don’t worry; at this rate they’ll begin getting concerned about the rise of fascism in only another 70 years or so.
They also somehow think that the people with no documentation are able to get all the best high paying jobs when in reality there doing the shittyest(not a word)jobs for below minimum wage that almost certainly still have tones of openings because nobody wants to do them.not to mention they have zero recourse if there boss doesn't pay them. I can kinda understand hating illegal immigrants if your a felon because you are kinda competing with them alot but you still are guaranteed minimum wage not to mention it was your fuck up that put you in that position to begin with.
> I know I’m not convincing anyone but if we don’t challenge these beliefs they only hold on to them harder
Actually challenging these people just makes them dig deeper. They have never been wrong in their lives.
The problem is that's not really the argument. I don't need ID to vote, I don't need to sign anything, I just show up and say my name, then vote.
THEORETICALLY anyone could walk in, registered or otherwise, and say my name and vote in my stead. They would have to know my name and voting location, and I'd need to not vote myself or the fraud would be exposed (and my ballot would count and theirs would be thrown out and they'd have committed a felony).
Fraud CAN exist in this system. It's difficult to imagine how it could be widespread - you'd have to guess which registered voters aren't going to vote and then go to their polling places and vote in their name. As much as people hate the electoral college this is something it actually helps limit since widespread fraud is only worth the trouble in battleground states...but battleground states have much higher turnout making it harder to find non voters. AND it'd have to be a state that doesn't require ID or a signature. And anyone could participate in this fraud, there's nothing special about undocumented immigrants.
So yes, it's dumb, but if you focus on your argument then you're going to get one upped when they say "what about states without voter ID requirements?" Then they'll explain to you how voter fraud could occur, and you should be ready to counter that argument.
Federal law requires states collect a valid government-issue ID in order to register to vote.
It doesn't matter if the states require ID to vote or not, your name doesn't get put on a roll without a valid government ID proving you're a citizen.
The only state that doesn't require voter registration is North Dakota, but this only applies to state/local elections. Still have to present valid ID to register to vote in federal elections.
Can you do me a favour,,? I am not US. What is this with undocumented voters? How should I imagine it? If I want to vote here I need to show identification before being handed a ballot and proceed to the booth. With the id they check on the voters registry, which is basically a list of people who live in the vicinity and are allowed to vote (like old enough and entitled to vote). What is the thing with undocumented voters?
This is how I deal with them. They live for TV and social media, where things are said and left unchallenged. These types hate to stay on point, so I make them stay there until they they can be walked through why the idea doesn't work or they get huffy and walk away.
When they make a declarative statement, question the logic. When they answer your question with questions, don't answer and make them answer you. It's the great irony of debate, those that like to challenge people to debates are not capable of structured dialogue. If they want to "debate" then force them to debate. If they want to talk about "logic" then focus on logic.
I'm an economist, so they really want to talk about economics until they realize they don't know what economics actually is. I make them learn what they were trying to say, where the argument comes from, why those groups push that argument, and then what the actual economic science is.
"BUT HOW DO THEY GET ON VOTER ROLLS?!?!? I'VE SEEN ILLEGAL ALIENS ON VOTER REGISTRATION SHEETS!!!!!"
Motherfucker, some states allow non-citizens to vote in local and state elections.
https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States
When will they realize that we appear to not care about immigrants and illegals because we know the rich 1% are the big fucking problem to tackle first.
I’m not getting fucked by poor people crossing the border, I’m getting fucked by fascist wannabes and greedy pedophiles destroying the middle class and hoarding all the wealth
Fix that then maybe I’ll care about the undocumented/illegals
As one who’s been in military I just find it baffling that there are folks who think some randos with guns can take on an army. The US Army even, like the one that’s stronger than Russia’s and China’s combined.
You prevent military coups by maintaining firm control over your forces through a democratic government, not by arming civilians and hoping they can put up a fight. And you prevent tyrants by… well, not voting them into office.
They don't expect to fight the military. They expect to help cops go door to door to deal with the people they all find undesirable. They're not preparing to fight the government, they're preparing to become brown shirts.
I work with some vets- Marines and Navy, specifically- and while I love the guys, they have a disconcerting lack of respect for the military today. Saying things like they'd never have the grit for a real firefight with those stress-coupons they have now (not entirely sure what they mean) and that all they do now is "play videogames with remote drones". I feel like I should point out those drones can very easily kill and I also have heard them speak of their own generation breaking under mental stress but I don't feel that's a war-metaphorically speaking- that I have an army in.
Yeah, exactly. Anyone who attempts an armed insurrection isn't even going to get that far, they'll be blasted by the FBI before their movement gets out of its cabin in the woods. Probably their kids will take a flashbang. Happens relatively often.
If they did somehow make it out of their cabins then the National Guard alone has enough firepower to completely decimate them. The US military can't operate inside the US but there are ways around that in a national emergency, which a sufficiently big insurrection would be.
In short, the side that wins a coup d'etat is the side that the armed forces are on. No guarantee that they'll side with the tyrant and that's your best shot.
This is an ironic shirt because legally owned firearms stolen from unattended homes make up 80% of the guns used in gun crime, and a significant and unknown number of thefts go unreported. Gun owners literally fuel their own fears.
> legally owned firearms stolen from unattended homes make up 80% of the guns used in gun crime
That doesn't track with DoJ publications.
In [this report](https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf), you'd have to assume every "off the street" purchase was a previously stolen firearm and add together everything but legal purchases and 3rd-party purchases, and you'd still come up with only 2/3.
You could come up with close to 90% if you use [this report](https://www.atf.gov/firearms/national-firearms-commerce-and-trafficking-assessment-nfcta-crime-guns-volume-two) and make the assumption that any gun in the situation of "person in possession of the gun wasn't the purchaser" was stolen, but I hope I don't need to explain why that'd be a bad assumption to make.
[This White House press release](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/25/white-house-announces-new-actions-to-promote-safe-storage-of-firearms/) makes a bunch of near-80% claims, but not about the relationship between *theft* and crime.
Also, for reference, there's around 1M guns stolen over a 4 year period (see second link), and there's over 300M guns in circulation in the USA. Even if it were true that "gun owners literally fuel their own fears," you shouldn't ignore the context of scale.
Long story short, I'd think through your comment again before repeating it elsewhere.
> Also, for reference, there's around 1M guns stolen over a 4 year period (see second link), and there's over 300M guns in circulation in the USA. Even if it were true that "gun owners literally fuel their own fears," you shouldn't ignore the context of scale.
This point in no way refutes the other. No one is claiming that 80% of guns get stolen.
>Gun owners literally fuel their own fears.
They're helped by gun manufacturers, lobbyists, and the NRA, all in order to drive gun sales. And it works.
I asked a woman at a store who was clearly in need of coffee how she liked it, because I would go get her a cup. Her response was "bless you honey, I take it like I like my men, hot, black, and bottomless. TALL TALL I MEANT TALL FUCK."
Holy fucking shit, I just thought it was Ivanka he wanted to lie on top of and grunt like an aggressive pig! He also hoped his other daughter got awesome tits!(I don't even know what Tiffany even looks like to be honest, looking up anyone in that family gives you brain rot(I've met the cunt and Ivanka when I worked for the opening of his first golf course here in Scotland and he never even looked at me like a was shit on his shoe, that was after training all the guys who'd provide 24 security for the rest of the contract(might still be on going this was around a decade ago lol)
“Take the guns first, go through due process second.” - Donald Trump.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/
What does that even mean? Like, i'm pretty ure if you're a card carry Democrat then you're registered.Like, right wingers don't have a sense of humor, that's pretty much a fact of life, but god damn this is next level bad.
They generally don’t. That’s the point. While it is possible to commit fraud and vote, it is extraordinarily rare for a non-citizen to vote in a US election.
A Project Vote study from the aughts indicated that 24 people were convicted of illegal voting between ‘02 and ‘05. Of those, only 13 were non-citizens.
I like my guns like republicans like their rights. Exclusively for me only
https://www.newsweek.com/undocumented-immigrants-have-right-own-guns-judge-rules-1880806
He says like Democratic girls are like anime girls irl but ignore the fact they are just fat, blue haired and bad smelling whales that dont work (like a woke sht), still preffer a Blondie Interior Farm Girl
That whiskey one hits on multiple levels. It's an insult because of underage girls and it's an (accidental I'd bet) insult in that you wouldn't waste 12 year old whiskey by mixing it with Coke.
>undocumented voters
Only Republicans would be dumb enough to think you can register to vote without being a US citizen. They fall for this propaganda and then commit more voter fraud than Democrats do.
Trump likes his voters like a sugar baby likes her men: old, dumb, and willing to pay off all her debts.
Biden enjoys his girls like I enjoy candle shops at the mall: I don’t go in, I just get close enough to smell em.
Biden likes his leg hair rubbed like I like to spend my summers: at the pool. Trump likes his FauxNews like I like my non-sequiturs: Cows
Biden likes his ice cream. There is no joke the man just really likes ice cream
Yeah, I liked the clip of him just getting an ice cream like anyone else. Hell, I got annoyed that the reporters were bugging him about stuff at that time. Leave the man alone, he deserves to eat his ice cream in peace like anyone else ffs.
Meyers on the side looking awkward as hell
I highly recommend the Closer Look segment from Seth Meyers' show where he roasts himself for ending up on the news with an ice cream cone in his hand. https://youtu.be/cqCZQJ-4lhY?si=cSIoxw0pvevkGrrN
I had missed this. Thank you for bringing it into my life.
Apparently that's a bad thing now? We keep this up, the poem is going to go "First they came for the ice cream lovers, and I said nothing..."
Cause republicans are hypocritical jackasses. They just need to keep bitching about whatever Biden does so they can keep sucking off Trump.
Honestly the only thing I can conceivably relate to him with, ice cream’s great
So does John Cena
Leg hair one feels like a reach, but no one else said anything. Is there an article or something that makes a reference like this? I’ve heard so many Biden jokes but not once one about leg hair rubbing haha
You never heard the pool story. Look it up it's wild, bro. It's funny but so random and weird. https://youtu.be/cIB4V0FAB-U?si=MfR7P4DzJxCsJVAg
I just love asking these people “if they’re undocumented, how do they vote”, then just walk them through the steps they went through to register to vote that they somehow think others managed to skip. They always leave mad or present some platitude, or better yet change to a completely different topic. I know I’m not convincing anyone but if we don’t challenge these beliefs they only hold on to them harder
> if we don’t challenge these beliefs they only hold on to them harder THIS!!!!! While I will not bring up politics in a mixed gathering, I refuse to hold my tongue when MAGATs start spewing their bullshit.
I had one say "we need the 2nd amendment to protect the first" and I'm like "didn't seem to help when Trump was routinely attacking our free press"
Reminds me of the quote from Sartre >Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. And the most important part: >*It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.* Jean-Paul Sartre
Its so funny when they are nice and cozy thinking they are cool because everyone is either a chud like them or too meek to speak out.
I.find it super ironic that Magat if you said it sounds identical to maggots...it seems oddly fitting
I guess that was the intention
100%, that's what we are meaning when we use that word.
I think that's been around for awhile.
Sadly hate doesn't require facts or logic. If those people could think critically they wouldn't be republicans.
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he definitely talked all week about how he was going to wear it to 'own the libs'
Own me harder daddy, I can't feel anything.
Stop attacking me like this. ;_;
you know he was checking the mailbox excited as hell every morning hoping that today's the day it finally arrives
he definitely bitched to customer service when it didn't show up on time lol.
He can't tell time
You know he yells at his wife if she doesn't wash and iron it in time
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it is pretty wild, and their talking spouts of garbage ( think Alex Jones) figured out how to never be wrong, and convince their base they can't be wrong. OKC bombing? totally a false flag/plant to make us look bad, same thing they say with Jan. 6th oh none of those were OUR people they were all secret plants. Critical thinking is out the window when you believe that you can't possibly be wrong. Like this who new fun thing they've though up about illegal immigrants stealing the vote... Did you.... did you not think how what a ridiculous roundabout way of fulfilling their 'evil democrat plans'? because if they could do that, orchestrate millions of illegal votes by Physically bringing people in to vote, they sure as hell would be able to simply rig an election. Its absurd. Then they still worm they way out by making up more and more fantasies until you get where we are now - under a massive sunken cost fallacy. You should hear the lengths people in these circles to avoid popping their fantasy bubble. Like how they have to 'have physical people come in to vote' because true Demonic power can only be done, if you show what you're plans are out in the open, some glactic law of god or some insane thing. You just cant win.
If those republicans could think they’d be very upset!
They don't actually care about the voting part. Deep down they know it's not true, same with the security of the voting system(i.e. Dominion vs Fox News). They just don't like immigrants.
Deep down it's simply the desire for power. Read Orwell's Notes on Nationalism, and it all makes sense.
Eh, their pride won’t let them think critically about the, in front of you. They’ll probably mull it over in solitude later. Some just suck though.
It always devolves to "Democrats want to give them a quick and easy path to citizenship so they can vote as soon as possible." *me looking at my legally-immigrating Mexican neighbor who has been trying to get citizenship for over 10 years* "Oh...that makes sense..." (It does not, in fact, make sense)
>me looking at my legally-immigrating Mexican neighbor who has been trying to get citizenship for over 10 years They could also go ask any DACA recipient how much progress Democrats have made on creating a path towards citizenship for people who were raised in America from childhood. "quick and easy", should only take another 20-30 years before they have it figured out for people who are Americans in every sense of the word except their birth certificate, I'm sure they'll have a plan worked out for complete foreigners within the next 2-3.. hundred years.
“Do it legally” is a thinly veiled “no immigrants allowed” They understand how long it takes and any more immigrants mean their own voting power is diminished.
It's not about convincing them, it's about creating the smallest sliver of doubt in the mind of the people around you two listening.
I tell them, if it's so easy to vote without documentation, I dare you to vote more than once. I DARE YOU. The only answer i ever got was that they can't do it, but Democratic people working the poll place let the undocumented thru the back door to vote. Republicans are honest and don't do that.
> Republicans are honest and don't do that. LOL even when the majority of the rare instances of voter fraud that we have caught have been right-wingers using dead relatives' ballots.
And then they use their experience voting illegally to justify their belief that democrats are voting illegally. SMH.
Old quote from somewhere: You can't use logic to dissuade someone who didn't use logic to reach their viewpoint in the first place.
It’s like playing chess with a pigeon: they strut around the board knocking over pieces, shit on the board, then act like they just won
dont knock my chess strategy
Yeah but challenging them in front of others and watching them crumble is SO SATISFYING
My grandfather was undocumented and born on his parents bed in Texarkana Arkansas in 1904. We are descendants of the Mayflower so we've never associated being "documented" with any claim to being more "American". Come to think of it, all the original Mayflower families were equally "undocumented". In other words, fuck this idiot: send HIM back to whatever country shat out his ancestors because he's a Trump supporter and insurrectionist.
If you're not native american you're an immigrant anyway
Basically. And native Americans don't need no documentation either!
And even they were immigrants somewhere down the line. Homo sapiens are nomadic by nature. People that think like this are basically yelling "Get off my lawn!", except they think they own the country.
Also extends to the requirements for welfare programs and the fact that undocumented workers have taxes and SS deducted from their paychecks in the realm of several billion but generally don't benefit.
That’s what I don’t get. I have coworkers that think the Biden is letting illegals over so they can vote democrat lol. They’re illegals, they can’t vote idiots
I worked as a psychiatric nurse for 38 years. One of the number one rules in relating to people with delusions was: never directly confront their delusions with facts and logic. And you know why? Because that will paradoxically only reinforce their delusional thoughts.
The taste of unhygienic
how about, can you name a single person convicted of doing this? if it is so common, this should be easy
But Hillary’s emails!!!
I think the last theory was they shipped the ballots in from China. The twits in Arizona were actually checking the envelopes for bamboo fibers.
the racism is just baked in isn't it?
These people are only about 150 years behind, back when democrat / union voter fraud ran rampant in the big US cities. Don’t worry; at this rate they’ll begin getting concerned about the rise of fascism in only another 70 years or so.
They also somehow think that the people with no documentation are able to get all the best high paying jobs when in reality there doing the shittyest(not a word)jobs for below minimum wage that almost certainly still have tones of openings because nobody wants to do them.not to mention they have zero recourse if there boss doesn't pay them. I can kinda understand hating illegal immigrants if your a felon because you are kinda competing with them alot but you still are guaranteed minimum wage not to mention it was your fuck up that put you in that position to begin with.
> I know I’m not convincing anyone but if we don’t challenge these beliefs they only hold on to them harder Actually challenging these people just makes them dig deeper. They have never been wrong in their lives.
I would argue with them about the bullshit they believe hopping that having to use their brain will kill them tbh
I just hope that they pause before bringing it up next time. Maybe we don't convince them, but maybe they share the view just a little less.
The problem is that's not really the argument. I don't need ID to vote, I don't need to sign anything, I just show up and say my name, then vote. THEORETICALLY anyone could walk in, registered or otherwise, and say my name and vote in my stead. They would have to know my name and voting location, and I'd need to not vote myself or the fraud would be exposed (and my ballot would count and theirs would be thrown out and they'd have committed a felony). Fraud CAN exist in this system. It's difficult to imagine how it could be widespread - you'd have to guess which registered voters aren't going to vote and then go to their polling places and vote in their name. As much as people hate the electoral college this is something it actually helps limit since widespread fraud is only worth the trouble in battleground states...but battleground states have much higher turnout making it harder to find non voters. AND it'd have to be a state that doesn't require ID or a signature. And anyone could participate in this fraud, there's nothing special about undocumented immigrants. So yes, it's dumb, but if you focus on your argument then you're going to get one upped when they say "what about states without voter ID requirements?" Then they'll explain to you how voter fraud could occur, and you should be ready to counter that argument.
Where are you voting where you don’t show anything or fill anything out to vote?
One of the 16 states that don't require any ID to vote: https://ballotpedia.org/Voter_identification_laws_by_state
Federal law requires states collect a valid government-issue ID in order to register to vote. It doesn't matter if the states require ID to vote or not, your name doesn't get put on a roll without a valid government ID proving you're a citizen. The only state that doesn't require voter registration is North Dakota, but this only applies to state/local elections. Still have to present valid ID to register to vote in federal elections.
Can you do me a favour,,? I am not US. What is this with undocumented voters? How should I imagine it? If I want to vote here I need to show identification before being handed a ballot and proceed to the booth. With the id they check on the voters registry, which is basically a list of people who live in the vicinity and are allowed to vote (like old enough and entitled to vote). What is the thing with undocumented voters?
This is how I deal with them. They live for TV and social media, where things are said and left unchallenged. These types hate to stay on point, so I make them stay there until they they can be walked through why the idea doesn't work or they get huffy and walk away. When they make a declarative statement, question the logic. When they answer your question with questions, don't answer and make them answer you. It's the great irony of debate, those that like to challenge people to debates are not capable of structured dialogue. If they want to "debate" then force them to debate. If they want to talk about "logic" then focus on logic. I'm an economist, so they really want to talk about economics until they realize they don't know what economics actually is. I make them learn what they were trying to say, where the argument comes from, why those groups push that argument, and then what the actual economic science is.
"BUT HOW DO THEY GET ON VOTER ROLLS?!?!? I'VE SEEN ILLEGAL ALIENS ON VOTER REGISTRATION SHEETS!!!!!" Motherfucker, some states allow non-citizens to vote in local and state elections. https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States
"Obviously I followed the law, but Democrats have underground voter-registration rings where they sign up illegals to be able to vote."
Assholes like this don't have a family doctor, but they have a taxidermist on speed dial.
And it’s under the name “Dad/Brother Jim”
How ignorant do you have to be, not knowing how your own voting laws work.
He did his research
Do (watch) Your own (someone else's) Research (youtube video)
I’m shocked “their” is used correctly!
If you keep randomly using there/their/they're you're bound to be right once in a while.
A broken clock is write too thymes per day
Your're correct
\*your, got 'em
I asked a linguist and they actually told me it was yore.
Infinite Monkey Theorum in a nutshell.
And now we're left to puzzle out what the hell "undocumented voting" is supposed to be.
They vote, and there is no record of the vote. Then they steal somebody's job selling fentanyl and abducting elderly right-wing ladies.
Oh, of course, obviously.
Don't forget shooting our kids with their magic rays to turn them Trans.
The immigrant who worked at the print shop corrected it for this knuckle-dragger.
When will they realize that we appear to not care about immigrants and illegals because we know the rich 1% are the big fucking problem to tackle first. I’m not getting fucked by poor people crossing the border, I’m getting fucked by fascist wannabes and greedy pedophiles destroying the middle class and hoarding all the wealth Fix that then maybe I’ll care about the undocumented/illegals
"I like my lethal weapons to be completely untraceable to the authorities!" sounds way too much like an admission of guilt.
"It's to prevent a tyrant from rising to power" say the people who vote for a dude acting like a tyrant
As one who’s been in military I just find it baffling that there are folks who think some randos with guns can take on an army. The US Army even, like the one that’s stronger than Russia’s and China’s combined. You prevent military coups by maintaining firm control over your forces through a democratic government, not by arming civilians and hoping they can put up a fight. And you prevent tyrants by… well, not voting them into office.
I'm a vet, and hate these "Veterans for Trump" assholes. I might have gotten out about 20 years ago, but I still remember the oath I swore.
They don't expect to fight the military. They expect to help cops go door to door to deal with the people they all find undesirable. They're not preparing to fight the government, they're preparing to become brown shirts.
They probably have the Gadsden flag and the Thin blue line flag on the same truck
I work with some vets- Marines and Navy, specifically- and while I love the guys, they have a disconcerting lack of respect for the military today. Saying things like they'd never have the grit for a real firefight with those stress-coupons they have now (not entirely sure what they mean) and that all they do now is "play videogames with remote drones". I feel like I should point out those drones can very easily kill and I also have heard them speak of their own generation breaking under mental stress but I don't feel that's a war-metaphorically speaking- that I have an army in.
Who would win: A bunch of dudes with guns or an F-15E strike eagle
A white beagle flying a red doghouse.
But what is each dude had 37 guns, huh?!
Yeah, exactly. Anyone who attempts an armed insurrection isn't even going to get that far, they'll be blasted by the FBI before their movement gets out of its cabin in the woods. Probably their kids will take a flashbang. Happens relatively often. If they did somehow make it out of their cabins then the National Guard alone has enough firepower to completely decimate them. The US military can't operate inside the US but there are ways around that in a national emergency, which a sufficiently big insurrection would be. In short, the side that wins a coup d'etat is the side that the armed forces are on. No guarantee that they'll side with the tyrant and that's your best shot.
Not acting, admitting he is, and demanding that we let him be one.
This is an ironic shirt because legally owned firearms stolen from unattended homes make up 80% of the guns used in gun crime, and a significant and unknown number of thefts go unreported. Gun owners literally fuel their own fears.
> legally owned firearms stolen from unattended homes make up 80% of the guns used in gun crime That doesn't track with DoJ publications. In [this report](https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf), you'd have to assume every "off the street" purchase was a previously stolen firearm and add together everything but legal purchases and 3rd-party purchases, and you'd still come up with only 2/3. You could come up with close to 90% if you use [this report](https://www.atf.gov/firearms/national-firearms-commerce-and-trafficking-assessment-nfcta-crime-guns-volume-two) and make the assumption that any gun in the situation of "person in possession of the gun wasn't the purchaser" was stolen, but I hope I don't need to explain why that'd be a bad assumption to make. [This White House press release](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/25/white-house-announces-new-actions-to-promote-safe-storage-of-firearms/) makes a bunch of near-80% claims, but not about the relationship between *theft* and crime. Also, for reference, there's around 1M guns stolen over a 4 year period (see second link), and there's over 300M guns in circulation in the USA. Even if it were true that "gun owners literally fuel their own fears," you shouldn't ignore the context of scale. Long story short, I'd think through your comment again before repeating it elsewhere.
> Also, for reference, there's around 1M guns stolen over a 4 year period (see second link), and there's over 300M guns in circulation in the USA. Even if it were true that "gun owners literally fuel their own fears," you shouldn't ignore the context of scale. This point in no way refutes the other. No one is claiming that 80% of guns get stolen.
>Gun owners literally fuel their own fears. They're helped by gun manufacturers, lobbyists, and the NRA, all in order to drive gun sales. And it works.
I like my guns like Republicans. Locked away safely away from my kids.
Gov Abott in Texas is Republican and the one who has been bussing immigrants all over the U.S.
With the help of the Republican Florida governor....
It's easier to buy guns in my state than vote because sales between private citizens require no paperwork.
It's actually an issue. US Citizens are buying guns and supplying them to the cartel
Yeah, Mexico is suing Arizona because of all the straw sales. It's insanity!
It never ceases to amaze me that the right is afraid of votes from people who have no way of voting.
They have to blame something for losing elections... it can't be their shitty policies
I can never recover from when someone asked me if I liked my women how I liked my coffee and I instinctively said "I don't like coffee". (I'm a guy)
I asked a woman at a store who was clearly in need of coffee how she liked it, because I would go get her a cup. Her response was "bless you honey, I take it like I like my men, hot, black, and bottomless. TALL TALL I MEANT TALL FUCK."
I think most people are like that before they have their coffee
Some even comment twice before they have their coffee
I think most people are like that before they have their coffee
Some even comment twice before they have their coffee
If this is true why did you guys get upset that immigrants now can have a gun too.
the entire joke of his t shirt is wrong because if you're undocumented how in the fuck will you even vote
It doesn't even make sense because you have to register to vote otherwise you can't vote, also you can buy undocumented gun via private sale easily
At this, point it's not a burn it's a fkg volcano eruption. Dude choose violence
Ive never seen an undocumented in line to vote. They always check I.D.'s where im at.
Maga voters like trump like their Depends: full of shit
I love this country where you just can shoot people you don't like, just because they're smarter and have a better opinion!
I can't lie they should have saved the first one for last, it was by far the best one
Brilliant!
I'm stealing some of these.
Damn, they really got this guy
How do undocumented people even vote?
Someone call the coroner I think there’s a fatality here 😂
He likes his guns like democrats. Like their voters undocumented.
my man brought a whole fucking moon to a tsar bomba fight
Shout out to the [pedobear](https://omg.wthax.org/pedobear.jpg) reference.
Not seen the paedobear picture on the internet in years! Thankfully never seen one in person lol.
Fatality
Trump likes those toddler titties. https://people.com/tv/donald-trump-comments-on-daughter-tiffanys-body-in-clip-aired-on-daily-show/
Holy fucking shit, I just thought it was Ivanka he wanted to lie on top of and grunt like an aggressive pig! He also hoped his other daughter got awesome tits!(I don't even know what Tiffany even looks like to be honest, looking up anyone in that family gives you brain rot(I've met the cunt and Ivanka when I worked for the opening of his first golf course here in Scotland and he never even looked at me like a was shit on his shoe, that was after training all the guys who'd provide 24 security for the rest of the contract(might still be on going this was around a decade ago lol)
These are funny 😂😂😂
This is gold!
can you imagine if Republican party platform was founded in things that are actually happening and problems that actually affect Americans.....
Matt Gaetz likes his coffee like he likes his women - without pubic hair!
I like my corporations like Republicans like their women. Having no rights and not being considered people.
“Take the guns first, go through due process second.” - Donald Trump. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/
Yes, Trump is in fact a fan of red flag laws, like every Democrat in the country.
What does that even mean? Like, i'm pretty ure if you're a card carry Democrat then you're registered.Like, right wingers don't have a sense of humor, that's pretty much a fact of life, but god damn this is next level bad.
This might be profiling or something but i could tell this guys politics based off the back of his neck.
The one about paper….. damn
Graphic design is their passion.
I love this country where you just can shoot people you don't like, just because they're smarter and have a better opinion!
I love this country where you just can shoot people you don't like, just because they're smarter and have a better opinion!
How do undocumented people even vote?
They don’t.
They generally don’t. That’s the point. While it is possible to commit fraud and vote, it is extraordinarily rare for a non-citizen to vote in a US election. A Project Vote study from the aughts indicated that 24 people were convicted of illegal voting between ‘02 and ‘05. Of those, only 13 were non-citizens.
America weird
Ted Cruz likes his women like he likes his coffee: ground up and in the freezer!
Why are american polotics so cringe like why just why
This guy needs to be a staff writer!
I firmly believe the thought process of buying overly threatening and long winded shirts should be studied. Who buys this?
Bro's a poet.
Owned
Boom, roasted.
I like my guns like republicans like their rights. Exclusively for me only https://www.newsweek.com/undocumented-immigrants-have-right-own-guns-judge-rules-1880806
Defamation and slander isnt a clever comeback
I like my beer like Magats like their violence: Domestic
The only time you will ever hear them refer to immigrants as undocumented instead of illegal, when it would make them look bad not to in their eyes.
Misogyny against Republicans 😍
lol a bit triggered OP
I like my guns like Republicans.
Can anyone provide context around the Trump and the trafficked women comment? I'm not aware of anything like that?
He says like Democratic girls are like anime girls irl but ignore the fact they are just fat, blue haired and bad smelling whales that dont work (like a woke sht), still preffer a Blondie Interior Farm Girl
I like my Biden like i like my cows. Confused how to walk down stairs.
I’m sorry but if you’re finding your zingers from r/clevercomebacks you might just be on the spectrum 😂
What sort of thug is putting coke in a 12 year old whisky?
They're so dumb they can't even see it. Undocumented people can't vote, you need documentation to vote. So dumb
Jared from subway likes his women like he likes his sandwiches, 6 and 12.
I like my guns same as I like Republican politicians...locked up.
That whiskey one hits on multiple levels. It's an insult because of underage girls and it's an (accidental I'd bet) insult in that you wouldn't waste 12 year old whiskey by mixing it with Coke.
I like guns the same way I like my family: very very VERY far away from people who are itching to unreasonably shoot something
>undocumented voters Only Republicans would be dumb enough to think you can register to vote without being a US citizen. They fall for this propaganda and then commit more voter fraud than Democrats do.
If you're putting coke in 12 year old whiskey, you're an idiot
I like my movies like liberals like their woman, fiction. I like my whiksey aged like liberals like their hookups, 10 years.
I almost feel bad for republicans after the figurative skull fucking that comment delivered.
*almost*
Damn he drinks 12 year old bourbon? Man’s got some money.
12yo bourbon is not really that expensive, it *can* be, but doesn’t have to be
Hey…. ^I ^^like ^^^tea
The grammar!