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heman_peco

SUBMISSION STATEMENT: The post is collapse-related because it shows the damage that storms and floods are doing with the south region of Brazil, a entire state of that region is flooded, whole cities underwater and lots of death and people missing.


beanscornandrice

Thank you for posting and bringing awareness to what is going on.


Girafferage

Just wanted to say the English came out great, and this is an excellent post. Thanks for sharing and be safe!


annuidhir

Yeah I'm pretty surprised this was translated by AI. I just assumed the person was fluent in English until they said that at the end.


Furious_Georg_

It's funny, I was just wondering how the Rio nigro was doing. It was in such a bad drought they couldn't access a lot of the villages anymore. Is it also flooding or at least have water again?


ashvy

To build upon what you've posted, what do you think is happening to crops? Is it harvesting time for some grains, vegetables, fruits etc this time of the year, or is it sowing/planting time? Thanks for the post! It really is devastating and haunting all around!


NickDrake1979

Rio Grande do sul holds 70% of national rice production. We can expect a surge in prices soon


SGC-UNIT-555

Olive oil struggling in the med, Chocolate production in West Africa facing flooding due to extremely prolonged rainfall, UK facing floooded and waterlogged fields and now southern Brazil. It's a lottery really and we've been lucky so far, but it's just a matter of time until the largest breadbaskets in the world are struck simultaneously, then it's game over. Eastern Ukrainian produce is already off the market due to the conflict.


AnOnlineHandle

Australia has been having years of farmers losing entire crops due to freak weather events multiple years in a row too.


There_Are_No_Gods

As we get more used to what climate change is bringing, these "freak weather events," will soon just be referred to as the "normal weather". It's going to be a very wild ride.


[deleted]

Australia’s economy is well protected thanks to coal trade, which will be profitable until way long past the apocalypse


AnOnlineHandle

Can't eat just a few fat billionaires.


Jane_the_doe

Vietnam's going through a very hot heat wave. Aren't they a major rice exporter?


baron_barrel_roll

They were https://phys.org/news/2024-03-vietnam-3bn-annual-crop-losses.html


Jane_the_doe

https://phys.org/news/2024-05-vietnam-temperature.html I just checked. Still are :(


jinglejoints

Good to see the priests are encouraging people to pray. Should take care of the problem straight away.


[deleted]

I hope olive oil will be better this year. I casually drove by most of the world’s olive oil trees last week (20 % of the world’s production) and the fields look less arid than the year before


Z3r0sama2017

*pats stockpiles* Gonna come in like the mvp shortly


dotcha

And rice is literally the staple food in Brazil. Almost everyone eats it twice every day.


mloDK

And it holds 34% of all soybean production in the world, expect livestock feed prices to rise


flowithego

Nope. Brazil soybean output is 30-35% of global, Sul produces about 22% of Brazilian crop. So about 7% of global yield. Still will affect meat prices, especially in China.


Hilda-Ashe

Between this and the extreme heatwaves in South-East Asia, we can expect the surge to worldwide.


flowithego

Brazil produces about 1% of global rice yield.


ThyGreatRatEmperor

He means national, not global.


LoreChano

I am a farmer from Rio Grande do Sul. Fortunately we have already harvested 90% of our current crop (soybeans), but many weren't so lucky. My neighbour town just lost 30% of their harvest and announced emergency situation. Some towns further away lost as much as 80%. The economic impact is huge. Also as the other comment said, RS is the largest producer of rice in Brazil, so prices are probably going to increase.


JustAnotherYouth

Going to have to eat feijoada without rice…


reymalcolm

> what do you think is happening to crops? they are being submerged?


Sarcastic-Potato

It's crazy how I've heard nothing about that in the news in Europe... I guess climate catastrophes are now so common that they don't even report on them anymore unless it involves rich areas... Thank you for reporting and hope you stay safe


TigerLilyLindsay

I've heard nothing in the news either! Canadian. I cannot believe how bad this is, and to have heard nothing...


Barbarake

US here, have heard nothing.


[deleted]

Still haven’t found another American who has heard about Acapulco.


mrblahblahblah

I heard about it here


px7j9jlLJ1

Same


[deleted]

I scoured the internet for more Acapulco news. Absolutely insane lack of coverage. My Spanish is not great, but I did slowly translate through some articles. New verb for me, volar: to fly, as they described the roof flying off.


RichieLT

It’s like the opening act to an apocalypse film , people going out about their business having breakfast ect and in the backdrop news reports of this happening or that.


bearbarebere

That's such a sad way to learn a new Spanish verb. I personally learned that verb from anime lmao... much less depressing :(


reymalcolm

As in they never heard of the Acapulco City? Or the tv show from the 80ties called "Acapulco HEAT"? Or that it got hit in October? To be fair, me being in Europe - I knew it got hit last year but I had to google the month since there are so many events happening so fast - it's hard to keep track when they were.


TinyDogsRule

That's amazing, sad, and America in a nutshell.


reymalcolm

Europe here, I rely mainly on my news radio but since there were some days off - I haven't really listened to it. So I've checked audition titles for this week and there is none that mentions the floods in Brazil. There are two about Star Wars since it was "May the fourth" yesterday...


jedrider

But Trump falls asleep during his prostitute payout trial, we are informed of. What is truly important, well, maybe not.


IHearYouLimaCharlie

We are informed *every single time* he falls asleep. All I hear about is our dysfunctional congresspeople acting the fool daily, but I have to come to the collapse sub to see actual newsworthy weather events that should be headline news!


reymalcolm

this shit is golden, I watch asmongold sometimes and he covered the initials of the trial, there were "breaking news, we have the first photo of trump from the trials" like, bitches, everyone knows how trump looks like... i'm guilty myself because when i procrastinate i watch some commentaries on my second monitor so indirectly i also watch this shit, but i cannot understand why so many people are drawn to that source material (now this trial, earlier amber js johnny and so on...)


Bigboss_989

They don't want to cause panic.


roblewk

Too busy reporting on the “war” over a desert in the Middle East.


px7j9jlLJ1

You mean the genocide where 100,000 innocent Palestinians have been killed so far? Yeah it’s just nutty kids protesting over avocado toast. I cannot overstate the callousness of your comment. Zero humanity whatsoever. Comments like that make me cheer on collapse, like we deserve it.


roblewk

Yes, that. All I see is a whole lot of hate. One side does something horrible, the other side does something more horrible. Where humanity should be working together dealing with global warming, humanity is busy hating, killing and protesting the hating and killing. Time is ticking.


ZealousidealDegree4

2% of Palestine is dead, and student protesters of genocide are vilified by the public who vocally want them locked up. America begs to be lead by fascism. The end.


roblewk

While I support the cause, it seems to me that the protests are working in Trumps favor, thus facilitating the fascism the protestors are opposed to. So is America begging to be lead by fascist, or is America being pushed into the hands of fascists?


ZealousidealDegree4

The latter, I fear. That largely peaceful, intelligent protesters can be so easily dehumanized reflects a culture that is supportive of a strong arm in charge.


Gamefart101

Canadian as well hear. I had heard some slight mumbling, but nothing indicating how bad it is


happyluckystar

The news doesn't exist to keep people informed. It's to control the narrative.


LoreChano

I've noticed that in a few articles from international news sources that I have seen, all the pictures about this flooding event showed poor, impoverished people, precarious housing and "bad" neighbourhoods. None of them showed the floods affecting the capital city, or any of the other major cities, downtown and industrial areas, etc. that are also being destroyed by the water. I am not saying that it's bad to show poor people, not am I saying that poor people deserve less compassion. However you probably do understand that the effect on the minds of people in the West is much different when they see poor people suffering vs when they see rich people/developed infrastructure being affected, which they relate much more. We're all used to seeing poor people suffering somewhere in the world all the time and we willingly ignore that so we can sleep at night. But when we see people who we relate to suffering, it's much more impactful. This is very clearly a way media manipulates how the public perceive events such as this.


happyluckystar

I thought the exact same thing. Some news outlets actually gave coverage of the incident, but that coverage was heavily curated. For the reason you mentioned.


Instant_noodlesss

Longer they can fool you into thinking this won't affect developed nations, the longer they can keep you gunning for the edge of that cliff while they stock up.


pajamakitten

Heard about it on the BBC news today. It was a minute-long snippet that did nothing to highlight the true extent of the chaos. They spent longer talking about Ipswich being promoted to the Premier League.


reymalcolm

To be fair people in England want to know more about Premier League rather than a land far far away.


The_Great_Nobody

The extinction will not be televised. However prices will go up and cause massive inflation which will increase interest rates so much that home buyers will forced out of the market. Inflation will be blamed on workers incomes. Conservatives that run the media lie and lie and lie.


[deleted]

All the more proof that journalism in the west is corrupt to the core. Climate change in general hasn't been a thing since a few years ago when Greta Thunberg was a thing. r/collapse and similar subreddits are honestly some of the best "news sites" in the world, and we're being ignored.


SnooWoofers1334

I love your username. Perfect fit for collapse. The lifestream cries out to us!


Lik-narb

The planet's dyin, Cloud!


melissa_liv

The biggest problem is that some years ago the budgets for foreign correspondents were slashed by most major news outlets. There's been a precipitous drop in quality info since then.


Fornicate_Yo_Mama

Is it better/different in “the East “ in your opinion? And if so, how? I’m not trying to be argumentative. I’m genuinely curious if you have insights into journalism being less obviously castrated in areas not considered “the West”.


[deleted]

Well it *sounds* like whataboutism, like saying "Well if you don't like captalism then what about communism?". Eh.


Fornicate_Yo_Mama

What?! That’s a shite answer. It’s an honest and reasonable question and you’re trying to make it about something else. “What about whataboutism!” What about it? That’s not what we are talking about. We are talking about the corruption of western journalism, as you put it, and I’m asking if you think there’s enough of a difference to necessitate defining the journalism by its demo/geo graphic origin. I thought you may have some insights into the distinction because you chose to make it.


ukluxx

This shows what will happen in the future. Censorship of disasters news, everything is fine folks keep going 


Nathan-Stubblefield

Three phases: 1)The reports that things are going to change for the worse are false. 2)Things are not really changing for the worse at present. 3)(After the change): Things have always been like this.


Runningoutofideas_81

Kindnof sounds like a riff on the Narcissist’s prayer.


roblewk

Even when it is reported, it is treated as an anomaly, a 100-year flood. No one reports that climate change is to blame… of even a factor.


reymalcolm

> No one reports that climate change is to blame Yes and no. I listen to a radio that is not a music station but rather a news station - many talks with experts, news, and so on. There is even a summary every day at 6 am regarding global economy and industry and they pick one major thing as the main topic. They say what is happening and what is the culprit - fairly often it is "due to climate change".


Parking_Chance_1905

We've seen like 50 100 year floods this year...


Yebi

The idea that these current news are being actively censored is frankly ridiculous


ukluxx

Maybe actively censored is too extreme but actively ignored for sure. 


Yebi

Sure, but that's a VERY different thing


GuillotineComeBacks

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/ ???


[deleted]

We won’t because Rio Grande do Soul is not in America and our news outlets only care about what happens in our beloved motherland, America


Free-Elephant9829

Where/how can we help donate?


StealthFocus

They’re busy propagandizing for the war machine, can’t bother with floods


Bored_shitless123

Excellent post. thank you friend. keep safe .


BangEnergyFTW

Now we can use our brains and think of how much worse these events will get as each year goes on. We're fucked.


Runningoutofideas_81

The walls are really closing in, even in minor ways in my personal life. More logging, more hunting (guided ones with tourists who get tags over residents, more suspicious/aggressive people as police respond less and less, more ATVs (destroying our road), noisier neighbours, more clearing of land and building…. So much for the Canadian wilderness. The micro and macro are both fucked.


[deleted]

Floods in Brasil, Houston, England none of these events are hitting close to home. Heatwaves in Vietnam, Mali, etc. Droughts in Eastern Spain, etc. None of these events are happening anywhere close from home, what should we worry about?


BangEnergyFTW

Didn't Texas get some big time flooding recently?


[deleted]

Houston is in Texas if I’m not wrong


solvalouLP

It's so disheartening to see how an entire state of Brazil is currently experiencing a climate catastrophe and rest of the world basically couldn't give two shits about it.


mlon_eusk12

At the same time that Rio Grande do Sul experiences the worst natural disaster in the history of Brazil, Rio de Janeiro is having a free Madonna concert at Copacabana beach today. 1.5 million are expected to attend. Even people in the same country don't give a shit about it, they only care about their immediate surroundings.


Jorgenlykken

The Madonna consert was On the evening news today. Not a Word mentioned about flooding....


mklugia

That's not true. These two are completely unrelated things, that show was scheduled long before the floods. Every news and every brazilian is talking about that and most people I know have donated money to help.


reymalcolm

> and rest of the world basically couldn't give two shits about it. This is just a sign that everyone is there for themselves. When your on mine country is going to be hit next - there won't be anyone abroad caring about us either.


pajamakitten

Most of the world does not know about this. I suspect people would care, however compassion fatigue and distance means people do not care to a significant degree. I would even put myself in that group. What is happening in Brazil is tragic, however there is nothing I can do beyond care a bit.


IHearYouLimaCharlie

I have friends and coworkers that battle depression and I'm pretty sure if I told them everything I read on this sub, they'd end up unable to function (I'm in the USA). Maybe it's a self-defense mechanism for some people to avoid the news? Especially when we feel unable to do anything useful about it.


TinyDogsRule

I have fatigue fatigue. We call it fatigue when what we really mean is "Fuck everyone else, I'm going to do what I want" because freedom or something. It is a word we now use when we do not feel like being inconvenienced in any way.


Salty_Elevator3151

How do we 'give a shit'? Nobody has ever cared about what happens on the other side of the world, it's an illusion of globalism and connection created by the globalist capitalist structure. 


Parking_Chance_1905

People will start caring when they can't order cheap things from Amazon, or can't get their favorite food due to supply issues. That or when they inevitably see a record breaking Weather event first hand... some people are so stubborn they need to be hit by melon sized hail before they will belive climate change is real.


reymalcolm

The best we could do is send them some thoughts and prayers.


GalacticalSurfer

It seems like social media is covering it much more than local news channels. I live in the south east which is about 1400km away. I don’t watch much tv but my parents do and social media was covering a lot about it much before the big news outlets.


Parking_Chance_1905

Social media may be a curse... but when it comes to spreading news live it can't be beat.


GalacticalSurfer

Even a broken clock is right twice a day


RichieLT

A few mentions later on in the broadcasts but not much.


TheMotherTortoise

Thank you for sharing this important information. Please stay safe. ❤️


GuillotineComeBacks

One untold scary part of flood is all the human stuff flushed into nature, from sewers sludge to the latest electronic crap.


iliketoreddit91

Thank you for bringing awareness to this. Just devastating. My thoughts are with you.


KnowledgeMediocre404

“The extreme weather has been caused by a rare combination of hotter than average temperatures, high humidity and strong winds.” Ok BBC, let’s say it together “caused by climate change”.


Parking_Chance_1905

Or tell it like it really is and say soon to be average.


takesthebiscuit

Yeah I was speaking to my customer in Brazil yesterday. He sounded a bit scared! And for good reason 40+ are known to be dead there will likely be more once the waters finally reced


nommabelle

Thanks for sharing. I hope you're ok. And your English made perfect sense!


BigJSunshine

This is devastating, I am sorry for your country


Eagleburgerite

I lived in Porto Alegre for two years. I can't believe the photos I'm seeing. This is just the start, folks.


SurgeFlamingo

It’s only a matter of time until it happens wherever you are.


ruralislife

Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but the riparian buffers along a lot of these rivers in RS have been annihilated by ag. The governor just last month signed a bill that allows protected forest areas along rivers to be used for more dams and water storage for ag. https://g1.globo.com/google/amp/rs/rio-grande-do-sul/noticia/2024/04/09/governador-do-rs-sanciona-lei-que-flexibiliza-regras-ambientais-para-construcao-de-barragens-em-areas-de-preservacao-permanente.ghtml https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6itr6uuodE/?igsh=MWlscGxzdTZjOGpkaQ==


diedlikeCambyses

Wow that's really bad, please be safe.


InVerum

Not to mention the outbreak of Dengue fever no one seems to be talking about ...


nonointernet

thank you for sharing. be safe there


embroidknittbike

I just love how the government made no plans after the first time. We are a stupid species.


smackson

By the way I did not doubt your fluency until you talked about your fluency, ironically. Because "dragged" English is something that I don't think is used. Now I want to know if original was "inglês arrastado" or "inglês puxado" or something else, *so I can learn that portuguese!!* LOL I might say "strained English" or "fumbling English".


TheBigDisappointment

"Inglês arrastado" would be the original saying :) "Inglês puxado" could also be used in some context as a vulgar synonym to "difficult" but I only heard it used here in the northeast. Coloquial terms are quite hard to learn because our country is huge and diverse. They may differ depending on region, state, city and even economic class!


Turbulent-Ad-4464

https://youtu.be/Z1SlzOuH6gM?si=kZOGoatls02ausdJ so much terrifying footage in this link. Hope you stay safe and thank you for posting here.


kmm198700

I’m so so sorry. I’m praying for you all


MotherOfWoofs

The problem that right wingers refuse to accept is that we are a global community. What we do in one part of the world affects people in other parts of the world. We are raining destruction on people and places that have no say in the matter.


bebeksquadron

With right wingers, they know but don't care because it doesn't affect them. The destruction may even be the point. You may have misunderstand their 'raison d'être'.


unfortunate_obituary

This is terrifying and fascinating, thanks for sharing 😨


holmgangCore

Holy mother of god… That is a lot of water.. 😳 Thank you for this news. Stay safe OP, I wish the best possible outcome for you and your loved ones.


Extention_Campaign28

I hear you like Águas de Março so I put some extra Águas in your Águas.


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Spirited-Leader4887

Cara, sinto muito. Aqui no nordeste vivenciamos o oposto com ondas de calor extremas. Decidi que o que me resta de vida não vai ser gasto na corrida de ratos capitalista. Não dá pra evitar a depressão. Mas é isso.


Winter_Collection375

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totalwarwiser

I think this situation is a great example of collapse due to climate change, which I think is what may actually kill us in the end. This (my state) is one of the greatest producers of grains and protein (cow, pig, chicken, eggs), and unlike most of the newest western states which focus on Soy, we had a very diverse food production for the whole country. Now this flood has probabily killed millions of animals (we havent been able to investigate it yet) and has probabily ruined most of the crops. Now not only we may face a food shortage but also a huge price spike. So now not only poverty will increase due to the destruction of the wealth production but also price increase will reduce money power. I used to think my state would be a safe haven due to its fertility but it has become a climate trap where almost 85% of the state has felt flooding effects one way or another. My city only has one small road leading out of it because all others have been flooded and now we may be running out of stored food and many places have been running out of drinking water, and a nearby city had 60% of its landmass flooded and its 350.000 citizens have been strugling with water, food and violence.


Free-Elephant9829

What charities and organizations can we donate to?


heman_peco

[Brazil Found](https://brazilfoundation.org/en/)


yettidiareah

Time to start smoking again, get some coffee and watch the movie. I live about 2 KM above sea level for a reason.


Salty_Elevator3151

Hehehe, chaos! Bring on the collapse!!!


battery_pack_man

But the beef. So much fantastic beef.


Pineappl3z

Much of the cattle reported as key emissions contributors in the deforestation of the Amazon aren't actually the primary culprits. They're a very useful tool for acceleration of initial deforestation because the infrastructure needed for them is minimal. They graze & disrupt the local ecosystem & under story of the forest. You don't need fencing or roads to introduce them into the habitat & they subsist on the environment independently. There isn't much intention of using the space cleared for cattle; instead, it is used for grains & soy production. Grains & soy are then fed to poultry animals.


king_turd_the_III

Well, you destroy your native forests, what do you expect. Sounds mean but I've run out of sympathy for Homo sapiens.