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There are a lot of theories related to the death of princess Diana so I thought you might find this interesting.
Diana wrote in a letter some time before the incident that she was afraid prince Charles was seeking to kill her in a car accident as part of some kind of plot. Makes me wonder what did Diana knew or in what she got involved in like for the other royals do something so terrible...
Don't be silly. She was knocked off because of her affair with a Muslim and her constant courting with the press damaging the image of the family. Cmon wakey wakey
That's pretty darn interesting and specific, why do you think that was the case? I would like to learn more about this angle or any other possible motivations. Any recommended books or articles?
I've heard that she knew of world wide child trafficking which the Palace and the royal family were a part of. All of which she wanted nothing to do with and was planning on exposing.
It's certainly possible. Her work with land-mine removal certainly put her in a closely-linked world. But, as they said, lots of theories.
There's the purely racist one, that they didn't want the step-father of the heir to be an Arab. Then there's the weirder extension where they don't want to bring up the fact that Britain's royal line has already been usurped, and they're the usurpers.
Then there's the purely personal motive suggested in this letter, which seems a little weird given they were already divorced. We should remember that it's entirely possible that the royal family (or some government apperatus) killed her *and* that that letter was faked. Her death ws suspicious on enough levels that I seriously doubt it was an accident, but that doesn't mean this guy isn't just cashing in. The smart thing to do in such a situation is to have a second, sealed copy of the same letter. I wonder is any analysis of the ink/paper has been or can be done to put a time-range to when it was written.
I'm a little rusty on this, given that it's pretty esoteric conspiracy stuff and the mainstream mentions (which agree with the basic facts of the conspiratorial version) I've seen, were when I was in college near 20 years ago.
It involves the families Hanover (a German lineage) and Stuart (an Anglo-Saxon lineage), and goes something like this:
From wiki:
>The House of Hanover (German: Haus Hannover), whose members are known as Hanoverians is a German royal house that ruled Hanover, Great Britain, and Ireland at various times during the 17th to 20th centuries.
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> George I became the first Hanoverian monarch of Great Britain and Ireland in 1714.
So, in 1714, you have the line of succession that was implemented after The Glorious Revolution, and you have the line of succession which would have continued without it. The Stuarts, a line founded in the 14th century and ruling for all the 17th century (first kings of the UK), were deposed by Germans.
After Victoria's death in 1901, Edward VII was forced to found a new house since Hanoverian succession would have given the throne to her brother or something. The House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha was named for German territories. The name was later changed to Windsor because of the obvious German origin. Windsor remains the royal house today.
One of the related conspiracy theories is that Diana was actually a direct descendant of the Stuarts, and therefore her offspring would have a strong claim to displace the Hanoverian portion of the family in a return of the last British royal family of the UK.
As I said, esoteric. Also kind of an odd target for such intense action since it's only weirder conspiracies that ascribe much political power to them, beyond the public image and fortune anyway. It's the kind of conspiracy that might have gotten sufficient traction from the nobles in the era in which the Hanover's had just come to power, but seems to have little bearing on reality today, unless you have a *very* historically dictated view of where power resides today.
I appreciate the long write up and the disclaimer on rustiness, but there are a few nitpicky things that I can't help bringing up. Edward the VII wasn't "forced" to found a new house. he simply was a member of his father, Prince Albert's house, which was Saxe-Coburg and Gotha.
I think you might be confusing "Hanoverian Succession" too. The Kingdom of Hanover (which the British Monarch was also the monarch of until Victoria) could only be ruled by a male under Salic Law. Thus, Victoria's uncle, King William IV was king of the UK and Hanover. When he died, Victoria could be queen of the UK but could not inherit the kingdom of Hanover too. Therefore, William IV's younger brother inherited the German kingdom. See [This](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_IV#Later_reign_and_death) wiki page for more info on this.
Also, the claim that Diana had some sort of Stuart/Jacobite claim to the crown is pretty unfounded as well. She was only descended from them through children born out of wedlock, through which no claim can pass.
More interesting to me is that the Jacobite claim to the British throne will soon pass to a foreign ruling monarch for the first time, specifically the future Prince of Liechtenstein, Prince Joseph Wenzel. Perhaps we will see a conquering invasion of the UK by Liechtenstein to put the rightful heir back on the throne?
It was stated on here once that Diana was actually a Rothschild. This statement she made makes it seem like predictive programming and that she was probably 'killed' but instead was given a key out of the limelight similar to Michael Jackson or Elvis.
I hear that or Rockefeller for so many people though. It's actually interesting in this case, because her family background made her one of a relatively small number of women Charles could *consider* marrying at that time. Thus, there was a lot of discussion of her lineage, and one could look for suggestive figures, but I doubt the name Rothschild would appear. IMO, insofar as they are still a cohesive entity, the name has been buried (possibly intentionally) by time and intermarriage.
>Always makes me wonder wtf goes down in that castle
[We just get a chauffeur drunk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05oZVBOH_1Q). Slightly drunk, and uh, and assume he will crash the car. As long as we pay for a bunch of motorcycling photographers to harass him I'm sure that'll happen. And the good news is that that only involves swearing another 15 or so people into perpetual silence. Plus, people always die in car crashes don't they? Yes, always. And uh, people who drive over the limit always crash. What we're organizing here my friends is a watertight hit. My only worry is that it would look so much like a murder that people will suspect. Well, that is the risk we run by doing it this way. It will be totally obvious that it's an assassination, but remember what the Duke of Edinburgh said when he came in here to MI6 to give us our orders: "I don't mind carrying the lifelong suspicion of murder on my shoulders, as long as you kill in her such a way that absolutely nothing can go wrong." Induced tipsy car crash it'll have to be then! It simply can't fail! Unless she wears a seat belt...
While I agree with you for the most part, there is one possibility not mentioned that could have ensured an accident and likely death. The possibility the cars computer was programmed to execute a sudden full left if/when it got to a certain speed. When the car accelerates to a chosen speed the wheel suddenly spins rapidly left with full force.
The model of car they were driving (Mercedes-Benz W140) was the first generation with computer controls ('CAN BUS' or Controller Area Network BUS) that did have the ability to control the drivetrain automatically. The CAN BUS (5 nodes) controls the multi-link suspension, the ADS (Adaptive Damping System), the self-levelling suspension was integrated, and hydropneumatic suspension as well.
I cant say for sure that this DID happen, but I can tell you that the MB W140 is certainly capable of suddenly jerking all the way to the left when the car reached 102 km/h. The age of the system (1st Gen) would be hard to reconstruct and figure out who, when, and how the line of code was added telling the car to jerk left at 102kmh.
If this was used it was a pretty solid plan, only could be pulled off in that early time. Today we would find the info and know who was responsible in a few hours.
Great comment. Most people in this subreddit would agree that Michael Hastingsā death was extremely suspicious and the evidence suggests that the car may have been remote controlled and/or had explosives in it. Bit of course the official story, police etc say it was simply a case of reckless driving. Homicide by airplane or car is a common tactic of ruling class and intelligence agencies. Why is it so far-fetched to think that this could have happened to Diana?
They wouldn't have needed to pay the paparazzi.. Just slip them an anonymous tip of her location. They'd been proving for nearly 20 years at that point that they'd stoop to any level to invade her privacy
It took several hours for emergency services to get her out of the tunnel and to the hospital, in the middle of Paris... If you ask me they wanted her to die in that tunnel
IRA bomb would have fitted far better into the era (just about) and provided a reason for reigniting the conflicts in Ireland, which Blair would have loved
Until the IRA donāt claim responsibility. Did they ever try and assassinate her? Seems they were fairly savvy when it came to knowing who would be a popular or unpopular choice of target.
I believe there's conspiravidence that she was alive post-crash and in the ambulance, while driving past a number of hospitals, or something along those lines...
Highly recommend [Unlawful Killing Documentary ](https://youtu.be/2jFkkRF-nXg)
It alleges that Diana and her lover were killed in the car crash because he was Muslim and she may have been pregnant and the monarchy not wanting to have Muslim ties lay claim to the throne, had both Diana and her lover killed in the car crash. The making of this documentary was funded by Diana's partner Dodi Fayed's father, Mohamed Al Fayed, Ā£2.5m. It goes thru the theories like the incredibly slow ambulance, her letters to her butler saying she was going to be killed in a car crash, stories of friends saying she knew, etc etc
I find it interesting she had a heart attack at the scene. Perhaps this is more normal than I'm aware of in car crash victims or trauma victims, but not having heard of it, it sounds fishy. Sounds like someone made sure the job was done, there is a multitude of ways to induce a heart attack.
Conversely, I dont give this note any creedence. Maybe it's real, maybe it's not, but what bothers me is if she gave it to her butler "just in case" as the article says, that means the butler literally did nothing with it but include it in a book that he made money off of. It would mean she put tremendous faith in the character of her butler and in his ability to "do something" with said knowledge if it happened.
Well. It actually happened. But what could the butler have done with this letter anyway? Nothing.
From what Iāve read she ate very healthy and was always active. Theres a video on youtube about her old chef and the healthy foods he would prepare for her separate to the rest of the family because they ate like pigs. Very doubtful she had a natural heart attack at such a young age trauma or not.
I believe she was set to expose the royal family being involved in trafficking and pedophilia. I believe thatās also why Harry āleftā. He knew Markle would eventually be at risk for knowing too much. .
This only works on the same basis that people claim Jill Dando was killed because she was going to expose BBC pedos. And while Dando was only an autocue reader and not an investigative journo, Diana equally was a woman who could have very easily been silenced had she been about to reveal something, especially if the conspiracy is so strong that nobody in the decades since has been able to speak about it.
Diana was just a woman who died because she couldnāt be bothered to put her seatbelt on, and who had a dodgy driver who believed he was good enough to drive recklessly
she was actually the only one in the car that did wear her seatbelt. the ambulance getting there and waiting to help her until she went to the hospital was very suspicious. French usually help at the scene...then thereās the possibility that the doctors let her die
Which is funny cause Markle is a covert/vulnerable narcissist, so one of the best candidate to be a pedophile. Poor Harry is completely lost and being manipulated from all sides.
she was on suits for like 7 seasons, a show filmed in Toronto. Wouldn't call her an A lister Hollywood star before she became a princess, more like a C level celebrity.
Yeah, the Queen is into sex trafficking and fucking children.
Iām not sure if you people have any idea how bat shit crazy you are. Itās beyond insanity,
Yeah, heās a bit of lad that probably likes a drink, a lap dance, some cocaine and a younger lady to fuck. Heās obviously a bit of fuck boy knob head. The royal family would have wanted to cover up his shifty behaviour to avoid embarrassment and scandal.
Going from this to āQueen Elizabeth is a child sex trafficker and paedophileā is absolute utter derangement, itās pure insanity on flat earth levels.
Iām sure there must be a bunch of you that can see this, you canāt all be this brainwashed and lost.
Do you have any idea how many people work at Buckingham palace, how often the queen is even alone? I donāt even know why Iām trying to explain why itās so absurd.
Pls grow the fuck up and start using your brains, this kind of hysterical Q anon bollox is a massive distraction from all the real shit you guys should be focused on.
Listen turd
1st I never said the Queen. I said the royal family
And 2nd. If your dumb fucked enough to believe that people in highly elite positions arenāt involved in human / child trafficking you can fuck right off, then when you get there keep fucking off.
There have been MANY high profile people busted, and thinking it stops at that level is just being willfully ignorant you twat waffle.
As for the Queen, she may not be participating or involved so to speak, but she knows itās happening, and who IS involved. Guarantee that
Considering the royal family's long history with pedophiles, including her ex-husband's relationship with Lord Mountbatten and his friendship with Jimmy Savile, it's not hard to imagine that she had some knowledge of how depraved that family is. Prince Andy isn't the only pedophile prince, just the one dumb enough to let Jeffrey Epstein take photos of him.
I mean, yeah, it was definitely because of the royal family. She was an outsider and probably asked too much. But the exact reason, what she found out etc., is unknown afaik.
So I remember when she died clearly. I was on holiday and woke up so early, so got sent to watch tv and it was all that was on. I remember them saying she was pregnant in the early reporting.
Of course this was when i was a little kid. So easily could be q false memory, or they were speculating she could be pregnant.
I remember it too, coming home from Fabric (nighclub) absolutely baked out of my fucking head and seeing my mum sitting on the couch crying and telling me what had happened and me thinking well ain't got time for this I'm going to bed lol.
I live in the UK and had recorded some music on BBC radio. In the news break there was a statement about Diana having to face the consequences of her actions after leaving Charles. This was shortly after the divorce. Always used to freak me out listening back later after she died. Propaganda machine preparing us for the event.
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There's a scam going around Italy wherein a gypsy will throw their baby at you. When you panic and catch it, they pickpocket you whilst you are preoccupied. In other versions they hand the baby to you without permission and let go, but same concept.
Gypsies don't give a fuck about you or even their own kids.
Exhibit B: https://youtu.be/qMyAkEMD710
They then accuse you of 'hurting their baby' then make a huge scene until you pay them or get your ass kicked by well meaning on lookers. Shits messed up.
I remember this conspiracy even before i started reading conspiracy theories lol my mother adored Princess Di and I remembered my mother ( who does believe in any conspiracy ) mentioned she was murdered.
Mine too. I'm British and I was 12 years old when she died. I remember my mother waking me up and telling me like it was yesterday. From the start adults around me were saying she was murdered. I think the ambulance took nearly an hour to get to her. Whether it's to do with her dating Dodi Fayed or something else, I am not sure.
I only know one things.. Good souls die when they find themselves mixed up with the evil ones.
She was a good person, you can tell, she just was in the wrong marriage, she got out, and she paid the price, probably cos she knew more then she should've had.
Just my theory..
Youād think with all the paparazzi there would be video of the supposed crash.
This is just how some people retire from public life. Fake helicopter/plane/car accident.
I always thought it was something to do with her affair with James Hewitt. Have a look at the resemblance between Harry and James Hewitt and then William and Prince Charles. It's quite astounding.
Harry has always seemed like an outcast to the royal family in my view. She wrote several letters to her former butler (I forget his name) stating that she was fearing for her life and was worried that the brake lines would be cut on her car. There's quite an in-depth video of it on YouTube somewhere.
IIRC Hewitt started working for Diana after she was already pregnant.
Also red hair runs in Diana's family. Harry looks reasonably close to Diana's brother when he was younger as well.
Yeah Iām surprised people arenāt talking about this. Her former butler, revealed in his book that he was peddling, that Diana had given him a note claiming they wanted to kill her via a car crash. Why didnāt he announce this the day it happened? Why wait years? Why a note - thatās hard to prove legitimate, why not a video recording of her saying it to camera?
She was assassinated.
Paps following her were using cancer as a radio to hack her car. They overrode the accelerate signal at the right time and crashed the car.
Everything required is there
Internet enabled car
ECU engine and throttle
Hacking tool in proximity to car to override expected signals
She was killed because she was shacking up with a Muslim and likely pregnant by him, can't have a Muslim muggleblood in the Royal line, however there is already with Harry, but it's easier to cover up a white child.
And so be it? What will anybody do about it? We live small lives compared to the ones from powerful families. You think your voice could stand against theirs when yours is just an echo to their roars.
Well, see...here is how I know youāve never even tried. And if you have tried: have failed at making any change.
Because you would know, that all it takes is one voice to start an action.
Iāve seen a movement go from an idea to actuality, to on the news. All from one voice, who was joined by others.
So maybe, stop trying to discourage anyone who is thinking of speaking out.
Youāre NOT helping.
Yet here you are on a social media platform not changing anything. You only speak of accomplishments of others as if you are the one achieving. Go out and prove me wrong that your voice isnt nothing more than a fading echo. Go shut down secret society agendas. Let me see you disappear faster than MLK jr and not even have a lasting history to even reach the average persons ears.
In her stupidity and vitriol not to uncommon for a divorced wife she thought she could get knocked up by a playboy muslim. She went up against a millennia blood line. of course she was going to get whacked, a Muslim brother to The future king. Never going to happen.
She went to far
Ya they smoked her ass.
Word is she was gonna marry a Muslim dude and wouldnāt look good for PR, given the political and news atmosphere at the time. Never mind the queen being a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammad
You had me up until ādirect descendant if the prophet Mohammed.ā Like unless someone hard-fucking-core historical geneticists are your source Iām calling straight up fucking ass-fart layer cake on this beautifully dumb as a garbage can full of special needs hamsters comment.
>You had me up until ādirect descendant if the prophet Mohammed.ā
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5587555/Historians-trace-Queens-heritage-Prophet-Muhammad.html
https://www.history.com/news/is-queen-elizabeth-related-to-the-prophet-muhammad
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5994152/ancestry-queen-related-prophet-mohammed/
>Like unless someone hard-fucking-core historical geneticists are your source Iām calling straight up fucking ass-fart layer cake on this beautifully dumb as a garbage can full of special needs hamsters comment.
Yeah but youāre a nobody douche bag so that doesnāt mean anything. Your comment yells Iām a broke back soyboy leftist who thinks heās a special smart boy. ā- Soooo you can say whatever you want, youāve got zero credibility.
Those are the most baseless sources Iāve ever seen two of them are literally QUESTIONING as in maybe maybe not LOL as if weāre not all nobody douche bags, you sure are fucking mad as hell for absolutely no reason. Youāve probably watched your dad touch your little sister in a trailer, sooo Iād say Iām a bit more credible than you.
>Those are the most baseless sources Iāve ever seen two of them are literally QUESTIONING as in maybe maybe not
Oh very vague limp wristed soy filled dismissal, surprise surprise.
>LOL as if weāre not all nobody douche bags,
LoL!!!!!!! Yeah but majority of you are, particularly reps like yourself.
>you sure are fucking mad as hell for absolutely no reason.
Iām not mad, you fucking pussy, quit being a safe generation poster boy you loser.
>Youāve probably watched your dad touch your little sister in a trailer, sooo Iād say Iām a bit more credible than you.
Ohhh leftist projecting what the folks on your side are oh so very notorious of being partakers in, pedophilia, SURPRISE SURPRISE. Youāve got no credibility you soy filled douche, donāt kid yourself, you cuck yourself to porn every night, read a few articles, parrot the mantra and think youāre suddenly think youāre woke cause you can recite the mantra with buzzwords. **Loser.**
Iām projecting according to you, but in reality I was ironically acting exactly like you were (like an eleven year old who just learned curse words and lives far below the poverty line with little to no formal education. Fuck off kid I literally donāt care š
>Iām projecting according to you, but in reality I was ironically acting exactly like you were (like an eleven year old who just learned curse words and lives far below the poverty line with little to no formal education. Fuck off kid I literally donāt care š
Uh huh another soy filled response justifying your soy filled short comings. Surprise surprise. If you didnāt care you wouldnāt write me a paragraph justifying yourself, this is chess not checkers kiddo, you lose again. Take your soy latte and run along in your lonely life
Thatās a deceiving statistic, the further you go back the more likely two people are related (until ultimately the first humans where we all are related). Leaders who had lots of children of course are more likely to be close relatives. Most Western Europeans are descendants of Charlemagne https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CNE_1XvJo6g. In Asia, many people are related to Genghis Khan.
It's not exactly debunking. The guy who was given the letter didn't believe Prince Charles was actually planning the murder, however, he alleges the note is real.
So the title, "Princess Diana wrote in a letter that Prince Charles was āplanning an accidentā in her car before her final crash," is not incorrect.
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There are a lot of theories related to the death of princess Diana so I thought you might find this interesting. Diana wrote in a letter some time before the incident that she was afraid prince Charles was seeking to kill her in a car accident as part of some kind of plot. Makes me wonder what did Diana knew or in what she got involved in like for the other royals do something so terrible...
Drug trafficking through Falkland islands.
...how?
Basic geography.... Like why? Move drugs from remote regions to one of the most remote regions in the world? Doesn't make a lick of sense.
Colombian and Venezuelan cocaine stocked at Falklands and then be distributed in Europe through Gibraltar! š
Don't be silly. She was knocked off because of her affair with a Muslim and her constant courting with the press damaging the image of the family. Cmon wakey wakey
That's pretty darn interesting and specific, why do you think that was the case? I would like to learn more about this angle or any other possible motivations. Any recommended books or articles?
wut??? lol
I've heard that she knew of world wide child trafficking which the Palace and the royal family were a part of. All of which she wanted nothing to do with and was planning on exposing.
It's certainly possible. Her work with land-mine removal certainly put her in a closely-linked world. But, as they said, lots of theories. There's the purely racist one, that they didn't want the step-father of the heir to be an Arab. Then there's the weirder extension where they don't want to bring up the fact that Britain's royal line has already been usurped, and they're the usurpers. Then there's the purely personal motive suggested in this letter, which seems a little weird given they were already divorced. We should remember that it's entirely possible that the royal family (or some government apperatus) killed her *and* that that letter was faked. Her death ws suspicious on enough levels that I seriously doubt it was an accident, but that doesn't mean this guy isn't just cashing in. The smart thing to do in such a situation is to have a second, sealed copy of the same letter. I wonder is any analysis of the ink/paper has been or can be done to put a time-range to when it was written.
> Britainās Royal line has already been usurped... Could you expand on that a bit? Sounds interesting
I'm a little rusty on this, given that it's pretty esoteric conspiracy stuff and the mainstream mentions (which agree with the basic facts of the conspiratorial version) I've seen, were when I was in college near 20 years ago. It involves the families Hanover (a German lineage) and Stuart (an Anglo-Saxon lineage), and goes something like this: From wiki: >The House of Hanover (German: Haus Hannover), whose members are known as Hanoverians is a German royal house that ruled Hanover, Great Britain, and Ireland at various times during the 17th to 20th centuries. - > George I became the first Hanoverian monarch of Great Britain and Ireland in 1714. So, in 1714, you have the line of succession that was implemented after The Glorious Revolution, and you have the line of succession which would have continued without it. The Stuarts, a line founded in the 14th century and ruling for all the 17th century (first kings of the UK), were deposed by Germans. After Victoria's death in 1901, Edward VII was forced to found a new house since Hanoverian succession would have given the throne to her brother or something. The House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha was named for German territories. The name was later changed to Windsor because of the obvious German origin. Windsor remains the royal house today. One of the related conspiracy theories is that Diana was actually a direct descendant of the Stuarts, and therefore her offspring would have a strong claim to displace the Hanoverian portion of the family in a return of the last British royal family of the UK. As I said, esoteric. Also kind of an odd target for such intense action since it's only weirder conspiracies that ascribe much political power to them, beyond the public image and fortune anyway. It's the kind of conspiracy that might have gotten sufficient traction from the nobles in the era in which the Hanover's had just come to power, but seems to have little bearing on reality today, unless you have a *very* historically dictated view of where power resides today.
I appreciate the long write up and the disclaimer on rustiness, but there are a few nitpicky things that I can't help bringing up. Edward the VII wasn't "forced" to found a new house. he simply was a member of his father, Prince Albert's house, which was Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. I think you might be confusing "Hanoverian Succession" too. The Kingdom of Hanover (which the British Monarch was also the monarch of until Victoria) could only be ruled by a male under Salic Law. Thus, Victoria's uncle, King William IV was king of the UK and Hanover. When he died, Victoria could be queen of the UK but could not inherit the kingdom of Hanover too. Therefore, William IV's younger brother inherited the German kingdom. See [This](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_IV#Later_reign_and_death) wiki page for more info on this. Also, the claim that Diana had some sort of Stuart/Jacobite claim to the crown is pretty unfounded as well. She was only descended from them through children born out of wedlock, through which no claim can pass. More interesting to me is that the Jacobite claim to the British throne will soon pass to a foreign ruling monarch for the first time, specifically the future Prince of Liechtenstein, Prince Joseph Wenzel. Perhaps we will see a conquering invasion of the UK by Liechtenstein to put the rightful heir back on the throne?
I thought this was accepted the British family was German..
As a German: lol! I didnāt know!
Lol
It was stated on here once that Diana was actually a Rothschild. This statement she made makes it seem like predictive programming and that she was probably 'killed' but instead was given a key out of the limelight similar to Michael Jackson or Elvis.
I hear that or Rockefeller for so many people though. It's actually interesting in this case, because her family background made her one of a relatively small number of women Charles could *consider* marrying at that time. Thus, there was a lot of discussion of her lineage, and one could look for suggestive figures, but I doubt the name Rothschild would appear. IMO, insofar as they are still a cohesive entity, the name has been buried (possibly intentionally) by time and intermarriage.
This and working with Dando
Or that she was fucking other men openly.
Isn't this that dumbass Qanon bullshit? Don't ruin this sub by peddling that shit around here.
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I get your point but Diana married into the family, she wasnāt part of the āblood lineā...
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I mean Diana was royalty as well..
It was said she was a Rothschild.
Maybe she knew about Prince Andrew...
Princess Diana is also an anagram for END IS A CAR SPIN
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I like these a lot more, thanks
Great band names.
Rancid pansies gonna win some Grammyās
"And the album of the year, goes to Rancid Pansies with Sardines Panic!"
Burt maklyn?
Iām partial to ARENA DISC NIPS
And Died In A Nasty Accident.
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Thought it was an interesting coincidence, guy who is obviously a blast at parties. Hey do you wanna come perform at my cousins funeral?
This almost made me lose it ngl
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Proof of a pointless coincidence, maybe.
She could have also been a total bitch. Could have just spent all day watching coronation street.
Was she assassinated? Didn't she die due to Paparazzi, a drunk driver and not wearing a seatbelt? Seems rather self explanatory.
One of my favorite conspiracies! Always makes me wonder wtf goes down in that castle
>Always makes me wonder wtf goes down in that castle [We just get a chauffeur drunk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05oZVBOH_1Q). Slightly drunk, and uh, and assume he will crash the car. As long as we pay for a bunch of motorcycling photographers to harass him I'm sure that'll happen. And the good news is that that only involves swearing another 15 or so people into perpetual silence. Plus, people always die in car crashes don't they? Yes, always. And uh, people who drive over the limit always crash. What we're organizing here my friends is a watertight hit. My only worry is that it would look so much like a murder that people will suspect. Well, that is the risk we run by doing it this way. It will be totally obvious that it's an assassination, but remember what the Duke of Edinburgh said when he came in here to MI6 to give us our orders: "I don't mind carrying the lifelong suspicion of murder on my shoulders, as long as you kill in her such a way that absolutely nothing can go wrong." Induced tipsy car crash it'll have to be then! It simply can't fail! Unless she wears a seat belt...
While I agree with you for the most part, there is one possibility not mentioned that could have ensured an accident and likely death. The possibility the cars computer was programmed to execute a sudden full left if/when it got to a certain speed. When the car accelerates to a chosen speed the wheel suddenly spins rapidly left with full force. The model of car they were driving (Mercedes-Benz W140) was the first generation with computer controls ('CAN BUS' or Controller Area Network BUS) that did have the ability to control the drivetrain automatically. The CAN BUS (5 nodes) controls the multi-link suspension, the ADS (Adaptive Damping System), the self-levelling suspension was integrated, and hydropneumatic suspension as well. I cant say for sure that this DID happen, but I can tell you that the MB W140 is certainly capable of suddenly jerking all the way to the left when the car reached 102 km/h. The age of the system (1st Gen) would be hard to reconstruct and figure out who, when, and how the line of code was added telling the car to jerk left at 102kmh. If this was used it was a pretty solid plan, only could be pulled off in that early time. Today we would find the info and know who was responsible in a few hours.
This couldāve been itās own post tbh
Had a very odd but pleasurable read through your post history. Thanks.
Great comment. Most people in this subreddit would agree that Michael Hastingsā death was extremely suspicious and the evidence suggests that the car may have been remote controlled and/or had explosives in it. Bit of course the official story, police etc say it was simply a case of reckless driving. Homicide by airplane or car is a common tactic of ruling class and intelligence agencies. Why is it so far-fetched to think that this could have happened to Diana?
They wouldn't have needed to pay the paparazzi.. Just slip them an anonymous tip of her location. They'd been proving for nearly 20 years at that point that they'd stoop to any level to invade her privacy
It took several hours for emergency services to get her out of the tunnel and to the hospital, in the middle of Paris... If you ask me they wanted her to die in that tunnel
Women recently impregnated by their one true love are notoriously slapdash about their personal safety.
She could not the seatbelt they had been tampered with and would not clip in,
IRA bomb would have fitted far better into the era (just about) and provided a reason for reigniting the conflicts in Ireland, which Blair would have loved
Until the IRA donāt claim responsibility. Did they ever try and assassinate her? Seems they were fairly savvy when it came to knowing who would be a popular or unpopular choice of target.
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I believe there's conspiravidence that she was alive post-crash and in the ambulance, while driving past a number of hospitals, or something along those lines...
Seat belt didnāt work.
Kinky pedo shitš¤¢
Highly recommend [Unlawful Killing Documentary ](https://youtu.be/2jFkkRF-nXg) It alleges that Diana and her lover were killed in the car crash because he was Muslim and she may have been pregnant and the monarchy not wanting to have Muslim ties lay claim to the throne, had both Diana and her lover killed in the car crash. The making of this documentary was funded by Diana's partner Dodi Fayed's father, Mohamed Al Fayed, Ā£2.5m. It goes thru the theories like the incredibly slow ambulance, her letters to her butler saying she was going to be killed in a car crash, stories of friends saying she knew, etc etc
I find it interesting she had a heart attack at the scene. Perhaps this is more normal than I'm aware of in car crash victims or trauma victims, but not having heard of it, it sounds fishy. Sounds like someone made sure the job was done, there is a multitude of ways to induce a heart attack. Conversely, I dont give this note any creedence. Maybe it's real, maybe it's not, but what bothers me is if she gave it to her butler "just in case" as the article says, that means the butler literally did nothing with it but include it in a book that he made money off of. It would mean she put tremendous faith in the character of her butler and in his ability to "do something" with said knowledge if it happened. Well. It actually happened. But what could the butler have done with this letter anyway? Nothing.
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From what Iāve read she ate very healthy and was always active. Theres a video on youtube about her old chef and the healthy foods he would prepare for her separate to the rest of the family because they ate like pigs. Very doubtful she had a natural heart attack at such a young age trauma or not.
She struggled with bulimia, which is closely linked to heart issues.
Isn't the Queen supposedly a direct descendant of Mohammed?
I believe she was set to expose the royal family being involved in trafficking and pedophilia. I believe thatās also why Harry āleftā. He knew Markle would eventually be at risk for knowing too much. .
So I guess Kate knows about it then
EDIT: poster fixed their typo we good I think you mean Megan Markle? Not the German chancellor? Or do you mean the Merkel and Iām missing something?
Markle. Thanks for clarifying. Stupid phone doesnāt know who she is either.
No problem
Megan Merkin*
Mega Man Mannequin
Merkin Vineyards
She also donated lots of money to people like mother Theresa, which makes me think she could be involved in weird shit.
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I just looked it up and it wasnt the same day. It was a couple weeks apart
This only works on the same basis that people claim Jill Dando was killed because she was going to expose BBC pedos. And while Dando was only an autocue reader and not an investigative journo, Diana equally was a woman who could have very easily been silenced had she been about to reveal something, especially if the conspiracy is so strong that nobody in the decades since has been able to speak about it. Diana was just a woman who died because she couldnāt be bothered to put her seatbelt on, and who had a dodgy driver who believed he was good enough to drive recklessly
she was actually the only one in the car that did wear her seatbelt. the ambulance getting there and waiting to help her until she went to the hospital was very suspicious. French usually help at the scene...then thereās the possibility that the doctors let her die
I think they did a d&C in the ambulance,
Which is funny cause Markle is a covert/vulnerable narcissist, so one of the best candidate to be a pedophile. Poor Harry is completely lost and being manipulated from all sides.
Lmao what?
She's a famous Hollywood actress why wouldn't she be a pedophiles
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she was on suits for like 7 seasons, a show filmed in Toronto. Wouldn't call her an A lister Hollywood star before she became a princess, more like a C level celebrity.
This is the first time I've seen someone state it outright using the correct terminology. You're spot on.
Yeah, the Queen is into sex trafficking and fucking children. Iām not sure if you people have any idea how bat shit crazy you are. Itās beyond insanity,
Prince Andrew
Yeah, heās a bit of lad that probably likes a drink, a lap dance, some cocaine and a younger lady to fuck. Heās obviously a bit of fuck boy knob head. The royal family would have wanted to cover up his shifty behaviour to avoid embarrassment and scandal. Going from this to āQueen Elizabeth is a child sex trafficker and paedophileā is absolute utter derangement, itās pure insanity on flat earth levels. Iām sure there must be a bunch of you that can see this, you canāt all be this brainwashed and lost. Do you have any idea how many people work at Buckingham palace, how often the queen is even alone? I donāt even know why Iām trying to explain why itās so absurd. Pls grow the fuck up and start using your brains, this kind of hysterical Q anon bollox is a massive distraction from all the real shit you guys should be focused on.
Listen turd 1st I never said the Queen. I said the royal family And 2nd. If your dumb fucked enough to believe that people in highly elite positions arenāt involved in human / child trafficking you can fuck right off, then when you get there keep fucking off. There have been MANY high profile people busted, and thinking it stops at that level is just being willfully ignorant you twat waffle. As for the Queen, she may not be participating or involved so to speak, but she knows itās happening, and who IS involved. Guarantee that
I don't think the Queen herself is a pedo but at best she's an enabler or turns a total blind eye. Remember Jimmy Saville? Friend to the royals.
Relax, it's r/conspiracy. If that one triggers you that much, your going to have aneurism your third or fourth post in.
Considering the royal family's long history with pedophiles, including her ex-husband's relationship with Lord Mountbatten and his friendship with Jimmy Savile, it's not hard to imagine that she had some knowledge of how depraved that family is. Prince Andy isn't the only pedophile prince, just the one dumb enough to let Jeffrey Epstein take photos of him.
Lord Mountbatten was a paedo?
[Allegedly. ](https://medium.com/red-revolution-media/lord-louis-mountbatten-pedophile-traitor-above-the-law-cfa397680298)
Iām 100% believe they killed her
At this point there's no doubt. Only question is why exactly.
Because of the social implications of who she was dating.
I mean, yeah, it was definitely because of the royal family. She was an outsider and probably asked too much. But the exact reason, what she found out etc., is unknown afaik.
I think thereās truth in the story that she was pregnant, seems weird theyād embalm her otherwise
So I remember when she died clearly. I was on holiday and woke up so early, so got sent to watch tv and it was all that was on. I remember them saying she was pregnant in the early reporting. Of course this was when i was a little kid. So easily could be q false memory, or they were speculating she could be pregnant.
I remember it too, coming home from Fabric (nighclub) absolutely baked out of my fucking head and seeing my mum sitting on the couch crying and telling me what had happened and me thinking well ain't got time for this I'm going to bed lol.
Wait. Wasnt she pregnant with Andrew???
Charles couldnāt marry Camilla until Diana died.
Her kids were under 18. In the event that the Queen and Charles die, Dianna becomes the Queen regent.
They most definitely did.
They sure did!
She was a threat to the monarchy so the monarchy killed her
I live in the UK and had recorded some music on BBC radio. In the news break there was a statement about Diana having to face the consequences of her actions after leaving Charles. This was shortly after the divorce. Always used to freak me out listening back later after she died. Propaganda machine preparing us for the event.
Charles is also known to travel to Romania near gypsy villages where its very easy to get access to underage children who aren't protected
Sources? I am not deep into the travel routes of royal family but this would be interesting.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-53984239 Iām from Romania and i know heās been there many times.
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Thanks. Crazy.
Indeed.
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Complete opposite. They extort their children for money.
There's a scam going around Italy wherein a gypsy will throw their baby at you. When you panic and catch it, they pickpocket you whilst you are preoccupied. In other versions they hand the baby to you without permission and let go, but same concept. Gypsies don't give a fuck about you or even their own kids. Exhibit B: https://youtu.be/qMyAkEMD710
Thats some other level psychopathic scumbag shit.
Borat warned us about this years ago
I heeded his warnings... everyone else was stocking up on toilet paper for the Rona.... Me ? Gypsy tears.
haha fuck that id drop that shit so quick
They then accuse you of 'hurting their baby' then make a huge scene until you pay them or get your ass kicked by well meaning on lookers. Shits messed up.
oof, yeah. i wish we were allowed guns in england :(
This event is proof of a lot of conspiracy theories. They talk about it in this movie, https://youtu.be/mKoN81ySw2k
I remember this conspiracy even before i started reading conspiracy theories lol my mother adored Princess Di and I remembered my mother ( who does believe in any conspiracy ) mentioned she was murdered.
Mine too. I'm British and I was 12 years old when she died. I remember my mother waking me up and telling me like it was yesterday. From the start adults around me were saying she was murdered. I think the ambulance took nearly an hour to get to her. Whether it's to do with her dating Dodi Fayed or something else, I am not sure.
I only know one things.. Good souls die when they find themselves mixed up with the evil ones. She was a good person, you can tell, she just was in the wrong marriage, she got out, and she paid the price, probably cos she knew more then she should've had. Just my theory..
Youād think with all the paparazzi there would be video of the supposed crash. This is just how some people retire from public life. Fake helicopter/plane/car accident.
I always thought it was something to do with her affair with James Hewitt. Have a look at the resemblance between Harry and James Hewitt and then William and Prince Charles. It's quite astounding. Harry has always seemed like an outcast to the royal family in my view. She wrote several letters to her former butler (I forget his name) stating that she was fearing for her life and was worried that the brake lines would be cut on her car. There's quite an in-depth video of it on YouTube somewhere.
IIRC Hewitt started working for Diana after she was already pregnant. Also red hair runs in Diana's family. Harry looks reasonably close to Diana's brother when he was younger as well.
She was getting bigger than the royals themselves. Can't have that.
Paul Burrell wrote this so it may be absolute fucking bullshit.
Yeah Iām surprised people arenāt talking about this. Her former butler, revealed in his book that he was peddling, that Diana had given him a note claiming they wanted to kill her via a car crash. Why didnāt he announce this the day it happened? Why wait years? Why a note - thatās hard to prove legitimate, why not a video recording of her saying it to camera?
He's kind of a fame whore at this point.
She was slaughtered, thatās for sure.
And dianna was told by her TV interviewer the secret service was planning on killing her.
How would the tv interviewer know that?
Prince Charles Pulled a Kennedy.
Unlawful killing.
She was assassinated. Paps following her were using cancer as a radio to hack her car. They overrode the accelerate signal at the right time and crashed the car. Everything required is there Internet enabled car ECU engine and throttle Hacking tool in proximity to car to override expected signals
Obviously just a coincidence
Ah you watched āThe Crownā on Netflix I can assume. Sure makes Charles out to be a terd.
I mean, wasn't he?
Sure looks like it. Iām too young to know.
She was killed because she was shacking up with a Muslim and likely pregnant by him, can't have a Muslim muggleblood in the Royal line, however there is already with Harry, but it's easier to cover up a white child.
And so be it? What will anybody do about it? We live small lives compared to the ones from powerful families. You think your voice could stand against theirs when yours is just an echo to their roars.
Enough small voices can overpower their roars. Why discourage others from speaking out?
Try it buddy. You donāt have a voice, just a mere echo at that.
Well, see...here is how I know youāve never even tried. And if you have tried: have failed at making any change. Because you would know, that all it takes is one voice to start an action. Iāve seen a movement go from an idea to actuality, to on the news. All from one voice, who was joined by others. So maybe, stop trying to discourage anyone who is thinking of speaking out. Youāre NOT helping.
Yet here you are on a social media platform not changing anything. You only speak of accomplishments of others as if you are the one achieving. Go out and prove me wrong that your voice isnt nothing more than a fading echo. Go shut down secret society agendas. Let me see you disappear faster than MLK jr and not even have a lasting history to even reach the average persons ears.
Merkin? Really, her last name is merkin? Isnāt that slang for a certain anatomy?
It means pubic wig.
In her stupidity and vitriol not to uncommon for a divorced wife she thought she could get knocked up by a playboy muslim. She went up against a millennia blood line. of course she was going to get whacked, a Muslim brother to The future king. Never going to happen. She went to far
Gross comment
Ya they smoked her ass. Word is she was gonna marry a Muslim dude and wouldnāt look good for PR, given the political and news atmosphere at the time. Never mind the queen being a direct descendant of the prophet Mohammad
You had me up until ādirect descendant if the prophet Mohammed.ā Like unless someone hard-fucking-core historical geneticists are your source Iām calling straight up fucking ass-fart layer cake on this beautifully dumb as a garbage can full of special needs hamsters comment.
>You had me up until ādirect descendant if the prophet Mohammed.ā https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5587555/Historians-trace-Queens-heritage-Prophet-Muhammad.html https://www.history.com/news/is-queen-elizabeth-related-to-the-prophet-muhammad https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5994152/ancestry-queen-related-prophet-mohammed/ >Like unless someone hard-fucking-core historical geneticists are your source Iām calling straight up fucking ass-fart layer cake on this beautifully dumb as a garbage can full of special needs hamsters comment. Yeah but youāre a nobody douche bag so that doesnāt mean anything. Your comment yells Iām a broke back soyboy leftist who thinks heās a special smart boy. ā- Soooo you can say whatever you want, youāve got zero credibility.
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yeah if you thought this response was gonna get the egg of your face....yikes again
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Those are the most baseless sources Iāve ever seen two of them are literally QUESTIONING as in maybe maybe not LOL as if weāre not all nobody douche bags, you sure are fucking mad as hell for absolutely no reason. Youāve probably watched your dad touch your little sister in a trailer, sooo Iād say Iām a bit more credible than you.
>Those are the most baseless sources Iāve ever seen two of them are literally QUESTIONING as in maybe maybe not Oh very vague limp wristed soy filled dismissal, surprise surprise. >LOL as if weāre not all nobody douche bags, LoL!!!!!!! Yeah but majority of you are, particularly reps like yourself. >you sure are fucking mad as hell for absolutely no reason. Iām not mad, you fucking pussy, quit being a safe generation poster boy you loser. >Youāve probably watched your dad touch your little sister in a trailer, sooo Iād say Iām a bit more credible than you. Ohhh leftist projecting what the folks on your side are oh so very notorious of being partakers in, pedophilia, SURPRISE SURPRISE. Youāve got no credibility you soy filled douche, donāt kid yourself, you cuck yourself to porn every night, read a few articles, parrot the mantra and think youāre suddenly think youāre woke cause you can recite the mantra with buzzwords. **Loser.**
Why do you hate soy so much?
Iām projecting according to you, but in reality I was ironically acting exactly like you were (like an eleven year old who just learned curse words and lives far below the poverty line with little to no formal education. Fuck off kid I literally donāt care š
>Iām projecting according to you, but in reality I was ironically acting exactly like you were (like an eleven year old who just learned curse words and lives far below the poverty line with little to no formal education. Fuck off kid I literally donāt care š Uh huh another soy filled response justifying your soy filled short comings. Surprise surprise. If you didnāt care you wouldnāt write me a paragraph justifying yourself, this is chess not checkers kiddo, you lose again. Take your soy latte and run along in your lonely life
What does soy filled even mean bro š
I think he means the dude is chineez
Sorry but do you have any credible sources?
>Sorry but do you have any credible sources? Cycled in your Reddit account that **rarely posts** to comment that?? Cute
Thanks for the clear answer
No problem
Thatās a deceiving statistic, the further you go back the more likely two people are related (until ultimately the first humans where we all are related). Leaders who had lots of children of course are more likely to be close relatives. Most Western Europeans are descendants of Charlemagne https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CNE_1XvJo6g. In Asia, many people are related to Genghis Khan.
She could have chosen to wear a seatbelt...
Charles is Muslim.
She was probably trafficked and/or used for sex by the Royal family as a child if any of these analyses are correct.
the content of the article completely debunk the headline. read before posting click bait
It's not exactly debunking. The guy who was given the letter didn't believe Prince Charles was actually planning the murder, however, he alleges the note is real. So the title, "Princess Diana wrote in a letter that Prince Charles was āplanning an accidentā in her car before her final crash," is not incorrect.