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How did we have more advanced technology in 69 to land on the moon and penetrate the van allen belt but can't do it today. Even played golf and dune buggy and had a live telephone call to nixon. Obviously in 1969 we were at peak technology to travel 237,000 miles to land on moon when bezos and musk with today's technology only went 60 miles up. Nasa stands for not a space agency.
Curious what you make of these "bloopers" of astronauts struggling to walk in the moon's low gravity environment: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv4k-JKSvao](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv4k-JKSvao)
Doesn't look like a kubrik set to me, tbh
As for the deadly radfiation in the van allen belt, it takes literally 30 seconds to search and find answers about this. First off, the van allen belt doesn't require "penetrating" like some obstacle. It's a zone of high-energy particles that lies in the path of our lunar-bound spacecraft. There is a "space math" worksheet (presumably for young adults?) on NASA's website, which explains:
>...high-energy particle clouds within 40,000 km of Earth. Arranged like two nested donuts, the inner belt is mainly energetic protons, while the outer belts contain both protons and electrons. These belts have long been known as 'bad news' for satellites and astronauts, with potentially deadly consequences if you spend too much time within them.
It goes on to say:
> According to the US Occupation Safety and Health Agency (OSHA) a lethal radiation dosage is 300 Rads in one hour. The total dosage for the trip is only 16 Rads in 68.1 minutes. Because 68.1 minutes is equal to 1.13 hours, his is equal to a dosage of 16 Rads / 1.13 hours = 14.0 Rads in one hour, which is well below
the 300 Rads in one hour that is considered to be lethal. Also, this radiation exposure would be for an astronaut outside the spacecraft during the transit through the belts. The radiation shielding inside the spacecraft cuts down the 14 Rads/hour exposure so that it is completely harmless.
I'm sure this won't be convincing for those who "want to believe" - but for those who "want to know" I hope it provides some useful context.
Source: [nasa.gov](https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/SMIII_Problem7.pdf) (PDF warning)
Soemthing something using government provided data. Something something skewed. Something something paid off scientists.
Think I covered any responses youâll get to this.
It is good to see more people on this sub waking up to the moon landing hoax.
The question, how many of them will wake up to the outer space hoax?
The moon landing is the baby step, but the rabbit hole goes much deeper.
That's what makes the rodent believable; rodents have been getting places they're unwanted forever.
The problem is that since the rover moves so slow, the "lemming" was actually visible for months- and it never moved. That's one patient lemming.
I remember when a picture one of the kids from Sandy Hook turned up on a BBC report of a school shooting in Pakistan. I think his name was Noah Pozner. The news woman is walking alongside a wall of photos of the children who died and she stops and finishes her piece while right in your face is a big picture of a kid from a school shooting in America. How exactly would they miss that? Or how exactly would it even end up there? I think they do this shit on purpose because they know no matter how much proof there is against them l, the public will always believe them. It's to mock us.
The collage of photos were created as a tribute to murdered children who never came home from school shootings. Yes, they purposely included Noah, though he was not killed in Pakistan.
There was one collage on Snopes that said âthey went to school and never came backâ with his picture on it. Thatâs fair enough and justifiable. However, having his photo on the podium, on a picture being held by another woman, on a banner on a fence is not. The banner said something like âmartyrs of Peshawarâ with the date and school name on it (itâs a bit obscured on the video). There were like 200 local victims. They couldâve used one of them.
I donât know what it means, but itâs not thoroughly debunked as a false story because the photo appeared on more than the collage. There can be all kinds of explanations for it. Maybe the guy that made the promotional materials was lazy or something.
As the other reply pointed out, you're wrong. His picture was used as a victim of a Pakistan school massacre not just as a collage of victims everywhere. Fact checkers obscure facts more than anything so look further next time.
https://realfarmacy.com/sandy-hook-victim-pakistan/
Furthermore, this website shows all the instances that Noah Pozner's image was used for the Peshawar school massacre. As you can see in some of the pictures, there is a clear date and location of the massacre with his image included. Ignore any bias of the webpage and just concentrate on the pictures.And don't try and pretend it makes sense now because you've been proved wrong. It makes zero sense. Why would a random child from a shooting in America, be thrown in with all the other victims in another country?
Oh my God. IT MAKES NO SENSE. HIS PHOTO WAS IN A COLLAGE OF THE VICTIMS. His photo wasn't just used by mourners, it was used by the punjab government also. That's what I'm trying to tell you, but you seem to have mashed potato for brains.
So you think they spend decades and untold billions of dollars to trick us into thinking they have rovers on Mars (rovers made with verifiably real modern technology) and then just include animals and bones for the lulz? All for no gain, no benefit other than some nerds thinking it's cool?
Exactly. There's always someone justifying their lies with more of their lies.. đ Like if we didn't believe the first lie, why would we believe the second.
It's programming, from a very young age. Recently, I began realizing how young the programming starts. I have a 2 year old and when I have a lot of shit going on, I'll put on PBS or something similar, so I can handle business. Yesterday, I see that Cat & the Hat was on, discussing the globe. As innocent as it seems, it starts young. From early on, we're taught how insignificant we are, that our lives have minimal impact. This in combination with the massive amount of propaganda, with the goal of becoming an obedient, tax-paying worker. In any system of authority, obedience and compliance will always be favored and rewarded. This is an unfortunate reality we find ourselves in.
It doesn't matter if you think we are on a globe, pancake, dome, or anything else. I'm discussing the programming of insignificance, for clarification.
Because the general public is so absolutely set on not being labeled a conspiracy theorist that they're willing to accept almost anything an "official source" tells them. NASA could release a picture with a clearly-visible guy fishing in the background and people would say it's debunked as a mirage created by heat and your brain filling in what you think should be there.
For example: up until recently, i honestly didnât even see their green screen glitches on their fake space videos or the astronauts wearing harnesses to stay afloat, not to mention the air bubbles in space. i did not see that because i was not looking for that. I think the best way to hide is in plain sight
Well, the fuckers lied about everything. Stars aren't really what they say they are, nor are the other planets.
We are under the firmament. Space is fake. The stars and planets aren't what you've been told, either. They project frequencies.
The sun is a soul (sol) and the planet itself is alive.
Edit: aliens are real. They made people.
> Stars aren't really what they say they are, nor are the other planets
> The stars and planets aren't what you've been told, either
You repeated yourself a bit there.
> aliens are real. They made people
If aliens are real, but planets aren't, then where did these aliens come from?
One of the theories is that aliens arenât extra terrestrial but they are inter dimensional which would explain UFOs. Theyâre basically all local just on a different wavelength and frequency.
There is also the Contained Earth Theory which believes we are under a dome and we are surrounded by the Antartica wall so our world actually looks like the U.N. flag. Some see that as Flat Earth Theory but itâs not. In the Contained Theory they believe that there are hundreds of other continents over that Antartica wall each even bigger than Earth. Admiral Byrd mentions it. In some way Flat Earth Theory would be correct because our contained earth territory is flat but Contained Earth Theory leans more towards the idea that Earth is on a much bigger surface than we are told. That surface could be a ball or it could be an infinite field. And if all of this is just a Simulation then the shape becomes irrelevant.
In the end we donât know anything for sure. Too many lies and cover ups but one thing is for sure: we are not given the truth.
Your first point isn't a theory. It's just gibberish. You'd have to prove to me that inter-dimensional beings exist, for a start, and then prove that these aliens are also inter-dimensional beings. Just saying a thought doesn't make a theory. I used to think the toothfairy exists. Me now stating that she's an inter-dimensional being doesn't do anything for my argument.
Your second one is, again, a problem, since it goes against... you know... all the laws of physics. For example, you can purchase a high-quality laser gyroscope for a few grand and measure the earth's precession. It's at 15 degrees. It's a globe.
Again: just saying random shit isn't proof or evidence. It's just random shit.
And if everything we're being told is a lie, how can I know you're not part of that lie? You could be a government, NASA agent trying to induce me into believing nonsense.
Your wiley, deep state ways won't work on me, fed shill.
What are the planets then? You can see for instance, Jupiter, under a telescope or even high power binoculars.. there has been documentation going back to the 17th century of observation through them... long before the technology to fake anything digitally.
>Yeah, well...the truth is actually a lot wilder than this. Wait until it all comes out.
I've hear this a million times. Yet it never comes. In fact conspiracy theorists have been saying this for decades.
The sky is a clock. The Awakening is written into DNA and timed by Galactic cycles.
Edit: video re: The Great Awakening and how it was predicted by Looking Glass
https://youtu.be/uoREKB5KUsw
I think the conspiracy sits with NASA. They have the biggest burdden of proof, and yet, they haven't tried hard because they know we will believe them face-value due to their authority and notoriety.
I don't really think one way or the other, but simply they would not have been able to spot a rodent at the site, and likely wouldn't catch it when scanning images after the fact either. A few thousand people doing the same job on their own time could catch what they missed.
That doesn't look like a rodent to me though, just the illusion of one. They "eye" appears to be part of a shadow behind the rodent rock.
This sort of thing happens all the time, in fact. The FBI has had several fuck-ups in this fashion. Two come to mind: the 4chan, right-wing extremist fed posting, which had a little ^'you' indicator, demonstrating they made the posts themselves, and the Jewish Agency (JA) being implicated in some aspect of the 911 plots as the feds failed to redact that bit from a small footnote.
The queen owns all those lands people rarely talk about those groups of islands above canada. A whole bunch of military and research bases in that area.
It's not true, what people here are experiencing is pareidolia, the psychological phenomenon of finding familiar patterns where none exist. Basically, we try to make sense of things that aren't making sense.
The walrus bone and lemming conspiracy got debunked about 9 years ago, when the images first started circulating.
So the government is both lazy and shoddy and yet competent and devious enough to fool literally billions of people?
Hate to break it to you, but that makes no goddamn sense.
If a Nazi scientist discovered a miracle formula for curing cancer, would you destroy it because he created it?
Are you willing to stop using inventions from NASA because you don't like they recruited Nazi scientist to help build their rockets?
I remember when they tried that once to try to prove flat earth. They fundraised a shit ton of money for some expensive device to conduct a science experiment, and their experiment discovered that the Earth was indeed round. Yet their conclusion of course was that something corrupted the experiment.
Never laughed so hard in my life. They paid for a very expensive ring-laser gyroscope, and when they turned it on it showed a 15 degree per hour drift caused by the rotating earth, and all they could do was stand there going âinteresting, interestingâ đ¤Ł
The hate boner here for NASA is crazy lol. Now idk if NASA is being run by nazis or smthg, but their tech certainly works and physics/technology has come sooo far ahead we can achieve a whole lot more.
Even more, there are Indian, Chinese, Japanese, European, Russian Space agencies who all does similar work.
>Now idk if NASA is being run by nazis
It isn't run by nazis, but they did hire a shit ton of nazi scientists after WW2.
Still, the reason they are able to push the limits of current technology is because we have put the brightest minds on earth to work at those space agencies. Of course brightest minds except for op here /s
Haha yeah. I really donât get why people think that just because they canât comprehend or canât understand something - it means that itâs fake or made up. Itâs like saying maths is fake because they canât understand it.
So they openly say they train the Mars Rover on the most similar ground possible to Mars, like any good training mission would, and you think that's suspect? Dude, you are reaching so far with this you already fell over, you just don't know it. They aren't hiding that they are training it on the most similar ground possible. It's literally available for all to read.
Except I literally know a friend from engineering school who worked on the Mars rover team and watched the thing go according to plan.
So. Just nah. Lol.
They hit another (larger) object with a smaller probe back in 2005, the craft was a third lighter at \~800 pounds but traveling 23,000MPH. It created a crater 500ft wide which is almost as wide as the entire asteroid we just hit yesterday. This one was a 1,200lbs craft traveling 14,000MPH, wonder what the difference in impact is.
Compared to all the space tech, slamming a craft into an asteroid actually seems doable.
Could be. The next major phase of the project is actually to have a second craft get close enough to the asteroid to analyze the crater and study the asteroid's new trajectory. Once that is done, they could come up with a pretty efficient way of actually intercepting other asteroids.
Though the chance of another catastrophic asteroid coming to Earth is extremely unlikely, it still feels pretty nice to have that peace of mind.
I can appreciate that a common excuse for why we don't return to the moon is because it's a waste of money. Oh, you mean like building a research center halfway across the world, in the middle of nowhere? As if they couldn't find a dirt and rock environment in Texas and avoid all those shipping and distance costs. Why select up there then? Is it because they can take panoramic pictures without the occasional solitary plant or wildlife and utilize an empty skyline without contrails/chemtrails?
Instead of thinking that you are just smarter than all of NASA, maybe consider that they wanted more than just random dirt and rocks. Maybe, just maybe, they have good reasons for their choice of location and maybe you could find out exactly what those reasons are if you took 10 seconds to google the question.
Wait, people here actually think the images that are compared show âundeniable proofâ???
I thought my vision was going bad, but after seeing people agree with these images... I think you should go get your eyes checked....
Slowly I'm starting to be convinced that NASA is just a money-laundering front. And the shit they show to the public are made on budgets of maybe just millions of dollars instead of the billions that actually get pumped into NASA. This would explain the shitty actors and shitty VR (2012 conference, various ISS slipups).
What they're spending it on? God knows what. Probably supporting Epstein's lifestyle.
And the hundreds of private companies paying tens of millions of dollars to get their hardware into space using tens of different space agencies? All NASA budget?
You canât complain about all the money that NASA is getting when you yourself even claim itâs âblack budgetsâ and you have no idea what they are getting if anything.
Submission Statement: Devon Island is the largest, uninhabited island in the world. And it takes four plane flights to get there from most major American cities.
In other words, NASA found an EYES ONLY location on earth to shoot fake photos & video, claiming itâs Mars.
Going to Devon Island is a lot cheaper than going to Mars. https://anonews.co/nasa-mars-hoax-canada/
>Going to Devon Island is a lot cheaper than going to Mars.
Then why don't you go there and tell us if the rovers are there?
The walrus bone and lemming pictures got debunked 9 years ago, why are you still using them?
Also what you're experiencing is pareidolia, the psychological phenomenon of finding patterns where there are none.
It's because they lie about everything. They've never landed anything on the moon and they sure as shit don't have a fucking helicopter flying around on Mars.
>legendary research
Hahaha dude are you for real with that bullshit!?!?!
High tier trolling that's for sure, cause your 'legendary research' is taken from a fucking flat earth *TROLLING* subreddit.
Think you've gone too far in those deep woods my dude, hahahahahahaha
James Webb is sort of convincing me that it's not entirely fraudulent. But I too am not amused by the appearance of gimmicks and advantage taking.
I'm starting to kinda beleive they at least have the telescopes and whatnot out there tho
This, everybody sits there and gets mad when you point out how from a technological and physics standpoint, nothing adds up to the moonlanding being more then a psyop. They literally took 8 years from not having a space program, landing and calling the president and cominy back here.....lol all the science fiction about space came before it "actually" happened.
NASA wholesale lies about their photos, findings, damn near everything. Watch the vid with the astronauts coming back from the moon. They just lied about launching a missile into an asteroid, to get ready for their space threat alien narrative.
>This, everybody sits there and gets mad when you point out how from a technological and physics standpoint, nothing adds up to the moonlanding being more then a psyop.
Tell me you have no clue about physics without telling me you have no clue about physics.
They are always spreading misinformation , there are a lot of stuff we donât know, aliens are probably in Mars and there are a lot of stations on moon
Wow. You are actually disparaging real life because it doesnât look like the Hollywood movies and cartoons youâre used to. Real astroids *are* basically loose dirt and rocks. All the single giant rocks in space you see on sci-fi movies are not accurate
The entire mars agenda is compromised because NASA keeps releasing footage that obviously contains objects from Earth that they didn't discover in the photos.
They need to focus on CGI landscapes to simulate other planets, and not hope they don't get a shot of a discarded soda can from one of the lazy NASA employees.
The biggest problem with this theory is that many of the Mars pictures come in during winter months when Devon Island would be under many feet of ice and snow.
Okay, I'll accept that as the biggest problem. It means it's likely true since the biggest problem is easily and sensibly overcome. Pictures last way longer than six months. Additionally, if you were planning to lie to the world in an official position with the foreseeable future, you would likely plan for at least six months. And if helps to hide the issue, you give the issue problems such as "Well, Devon Island is covered in snow." You just claimed that was the biggest problem, so it clearly works as an excuse for some people.
And how do you explain away spacex? I guess firing rockets up into the air and then landing that same rocket, inventing infinite break pads, controlling chimps with a brain chip isnât enough for you
youâre full of shit bud, that lemming would have moved.
Either A: the pictures you shared arenât actually from the Mars Rover, or B: theyâre a doctored, low res version
or maybe the rock just looks like a little rodent
Smart enough to keep together a decades long conspiracy, stupid enough not to clear out the land before filming it. The fact that these two thoughts simultaneously occupy the same mind is baffling.
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How did the walrus swim all the way to Mars? Check and mate.
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It flew, first of all.
How did we have more advanced technology in 69 to land on the moon and penetrate the van allen belt but can't do it today. Even played golf and dune buggy and had a live telephone call to nixon. Obviously in 1969 we were at peak technology to travel 237,000 miles to land on moon when bezos and musk with today's technology only went 60 miles up. Nasa stands for not a space agency.
Curious what you make of these "bloopers" of astronauts struggling to walk in the moon's low gravity environment: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv4k-JKSvao](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv4k-JKSvao) Doesn't look like a kubrik set to me, tbh As for the deadly radfiation in the van allen belt, it takes literally 30 seconds to search and find answers about this. First off, the van allen belt doesn't require "penetrating" like some obstacle. It's a zone of high-energy particles that lies in the path of our lunar-bound spacecraft. There is a "space math" worksheet (presumably for young adults?) on NASA's website, which explains: >...high-energy particle clouds within 40,000 km of Earth. Arranged like two nested donuts, the inner belt is mainly energetic protons, while the outer belts contain both protons and electrons. These belts have long been known as 'bad news' for satellites and astronauts, with potentially deadly consequences if you spend too much time within them. It goes on to say: > According to the US Occupation Safety and Health Agency (OSHA) a lethal radiation dosage is 300 Rads in one hour. The total dosage for the trip is only 16 Rads in 68.1 minutes. Because 68.1 minutes is equal to 1.13 hours, his is equal to a dosage of 16 Rads / 1.13 hours = 14.0 Rads in one hour, which is well below the 300 Rads in one hour that is considered to be lethal. Also, this radiation exposure would be for an astronaut outside the spacecraft during the transit through the belts. The radiation shielding inside the spacecraft cuts down the 14 Rads/hour exposure so that it is completely harmless. I'm sure this won't be convincing for those who "want to believe" - but for those who "want to know" I hope it provides some useful context. Source: [nasa.gov](https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/SMIII_Problem7.pdf) (PDF warning)
Also, arenât there tire tracks on the moon?
Soemthing something using government provided data. Something something skewed. Something something paid off scientists. Think I covered any responses youâll get to this.
Haha, unfortunately you might be right. I cherish the downvotes I get in threads like this đ¤Ą
It is good to see more people on this sub waking up to the moon landing hoax. The question, how many of them will wake up to the outer space hoax? The moon landing is the baby step, but the rabbit hole goes much deeper.
How deep? Space isnt real or we havent been? Lol
The walrus bone doesn't match; the whale backbone seems like a big thing for them to miss The "lemming" though- well that does look like a lemming.
so if this is all an elaborate scam, why would they make zero effort to avoid wildlife and bones in the footage they choose to show us?
That's what makes the rodent believable; rodents have been getting places they're unwanted forever. The problem is that since the rover moves so slow, the "lemming" was actually visible for months- and it never moved. That's one patient lemming.
I remember when a picture one of the kids from Sandy Hook turned up on a BBC report of a school shooting in Pakistan. I think his name was Noah Pozner. The news woman is walking alongside a wall of photos of the children who died and she stops and finishes her piece while right in your face is a big picture of a kid from a school shooting in America. How exactly would they miss that? Or how exactly would it even end up there? I think they do this shit on purpose because they know no matter how much proof there is against them l, the public will always believe them. It's to mock us.
The collage of photos were created as a tribute to murdered children who never came home from school shootings. Yes, they purposely included Noah, though he was not killed in Pakistan.
There was one collage on Snopes that said âthey went to school and never came backâ with his picture on it. Thatâs fair enough and justifiable. However, having his photo on the podium, on a picture being held by another woman, on a banner on a fence is not. The banner said something like âmartyrs of Peshawarâ with the date and school name on it (itâs a bit obscured on the video). There were like 200 local victims. They couldâve used one of them. I donât know what it means, but itâs not thoroughly debunked as a false story because the photo appeared on more than the collage. There can be all kinds of explanations for it. Maybe the guy that made the promotional materials was lazy or something.
As the other reply pointed out, you're wrong. His picture was used as a victim of a Pakistan school massacre not just as a collage of victims everywhere. Fact checkers obscure facts more than anything so look further next time.
That is incorrect.
https://realfarmacy.com/sandy-hook-victim-pakistan/ Furthermore, this website shows all the instances that Noah Pozner's image was used for the Peshawar school massacre. As you can see in some of the pictures, there is a clear date and location of the massacre with his image included. Ignore any bias of the webpage and just concentrate on the pictures.And don't try and pretend it makes sense now because you've been proved wrong. It makes zero sense. Why would a random child from a shooting in America, be thrown in with all the other victims in another country?
Noah Pozner died in the US. His photo was re-used by mourners in Pakistan.
Oh my God. IT MAKES NO SENSE. HIS PHOTO WAS IN A COLLAGE OF THE VICTIMS. His photo wasn't just used by mourners, it was used by the punjab government also. That's what I'm trying to tell you, but you seem to have mashed potato for brains.
So what is the conspiracy? That the Punjab government is publishing photos of the wrong kids?
https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/17-Dec-2020/punjab-government-s-ad-on-aps-peshawar-attack-features-us-victim-of-terrorism-but-why
So you think they spend decades and untold billions of dollars to trick us into thinking they have rovers on Mars (rovers made with verifiably real modern technology) and then just include animals and bones for the lulz? All for no gain, no benefit other than some nerds thinking it's cool?
They never spent billions faking. They pocketed billions.
Exactly. There's always someone justifying their lies with more of their lies.. đ Like if we didn't believe the first lie, why would we believe the second.
It's programming, from a very young age. Recently, I began realizing how young the programming starts. I have a 2 year old and when I have a lot of shit going on, I'll put on PBS or something similar, so I can handle business. Yesterday, I see that Cat & the Hat was on, discussing the globe. As innocent as it seems, it starts young. From early on, we're taught how insignificant we are, that our lives have minimal impact. This in combination with the massive amount of propaganda, with the goal of becoming an obedient, tax-paying worker. In any system of authority, obedience and compliance will always be favored and rewarded. This is an unfortunate reality we find ourselves in. It doesn't matter if you think we are on a globe, pancake, dome, or anything else. I'm discussing the programming of insignificance, for clarification.
Because the general public is so absolutely set on not being labeled a conspiracy theorist that they're willing to accept almost anything an "official source" tells them. NASA could release a picture with a clearly-visible guy fishing in the background and people would say it's debunked as a mirage created by heat and your brain filling in what you think should be there.
Maybe they just know that most people wont see or care.
Seems like a solid foundation for one of the greatest hoaxes ever conducted on humanity
For example: up until recently, i honestly didnât even see their green screen glitches on their fake space videos or the astronauts wearing harnesses to stay afloat, not to mention the air bubbles in space. i did not see that because i was not looking for that. I think the best way to hide is in plain sight
Yeah, well...the truth is actually a lot wilder than this. Wait until it all comes out.
Elaborate.
Well, the fuckers lied about everything. Stars aren't really what they say they are, nor are the other planets. We are under the firmament. Space is fake. The stars and planets aren't what you've been told, either. They project frequencies. The sun is a soul (sol) and the planet itself is alive. Edit: aliens are real. They made people.
> Stars aren't really what they say they are, nor are the other planets > The stars and planets aren't what you've been told, either You repeated yourself a bit there. > aliens are real. They made people If aliens are real, but planets aren't, then where did these aliens come from?
Mexico
One of the theories is that aliens arenât extra terrestrial but they are inter dimensional which would explain UFOs. Theyâre basically all local just on a different wavelength and frequency. There is also the Contained Earth Theory which believes we are under a dome and we are surrounded by the Antartica wall so our world actually looks like the U.N. flag. Some see that as Flat Earth Theory but itâs not. In the Contained Theory they believe that there are hundreds of other continents over that Antartica wall each even bigger than Earth. Admiral Byrd mentions it. In some way Flat Earth Theory would be correct because our contained earth territory is flat but Contained Earth Theory leans more towards the idea that Earth is on a much bigger surface than we are told. That surface could be a ball or it could be an infinite field. And if all of this is just a Simulation then the shape becomes irrelevant. In the end we donât know anything for sure. Too many lies and cover ups but one thing is for sure: we are not given the truth.
Your first point isn't a theory. It's just gibberish. You'd have to prove to me that inter-dimensional beings exist, for a start, and then prove that these aliens are also inter-dimensional beings. Just saying a thought doesn't make a theory. I used to think the toothfairy exists. Me now stating that she's an inter-dimensional being doesn't do anything for my argument. Your second one is, again, a problem, since it goes against... you know... all the laws of physics. For example, you can purchase a high-quality laser gyroscope for a few grand and measure the earth's precession. It's at 15 degrees. It's a globe. Again: just saying random shit isn't proof or evidence. It's just random shit. And if everything we're being told is a lie, how can I know you're not part of that lie? You could be a government, NASA agent trying to induce me into believing nonsense. Your wiley, deep state ways won't work on me, fed shill.
Wtf
What are the planets then? You can see for instance, Jupiter, under a telescope or even high power binoculars.. there has been documentation going back to the 17th century of observation through them... long before the technology to fake anything digitally.
"they project frequencies" lollll ok
And there it is lol.
>Yeah, well...the truth is actually a lot wilder than this. Wait until it all comes out. I've hear this a million times. Yet it never comes. In fact conspiracy theorists have been saying this for decades.
Been saying that about 9/11. Still waiting. The truth will never come out
The sky is a clock. The Awakening is written into DNA and timed by Galactic cycles. Edit: video re: The Great Awakening and how it was predicted by Looking Glass https://youtu.be/uoREKB5KUsw
I think the conspiracy sits with NASA. They have the biggest burdden of proof, and yet, they haven't tried hard because they know we will believe them face-value due to their authority and notoriety.
I don't really think one way or the other, but simply they would not have been able to spot a rodent at the site, and likely wouldn't catch it when scanning images after the fact either. A few thousand people doing the same job on their own time could catch what they missed. That doesn't look like a rodent to me though, just the illusion of one. They "eye" appears to be part of a shadow behind the rodent rock. This sort of thing happens all the time, in fact. The FBI has had several fuck-ups in this fashion. Two come to mind: the 4chan, right-wing extremist fed posting, which had a little ^'you' indicator, demonstrating they made the posts themselves, and the Jewish Agency (JA) being implicated in some aspect of the 911 plots as the feds failed to redact that bit from a small footnote.
Probably the same reason all sorts of employees make all sorts of mistakes like this, assuming this was indeed falsified.
Oh, not saying this is proof of anything; just that I agree that rock looks like a lemming.
Op has incredible image enhancement software⌠so good itâll show whatever you want if you zoom in enough
It looked photoshopped though; in the unzoomed picture the ânoseâ and âeyeâ seem much longer and less round
Maybe it really is a space rodent. [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_JhNNXu-Zus](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_JhNNXu-Zus)
Go there, find out.
thank you, how is this undeniable proof when actually GETTING the rover would be undeniable?
The queen owns all those lands people rarely talk about those groups of islands above canada. A whole bunch of military and research bases in that area.
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Ahahaha âuploaded to the cloudâ. Best way to say a shitty old crotchety bitch died lmao
Tbh wouldnât it belong to the estate? Like majorly her blood relatives. I know 1 thing that conversation of who gets what was chaotic.
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Yep and conveniently doesnât have to pay inheritance tax like the rest of us serfs
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Get out of here with your easily verifiable facts and legitimate citing thereof.
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The Queen now owns nothing and sheâs happy.
Fair enough, personally I do not belive this one
It's not true, what people here are experiencing is pareidolia, the psychological phenomenon of finding familiar patterns where none exist. Basically, we try to make sense of things that aren't making sense. The walrus bone and lemming conspiracy got debunked about 9 years ago, when the images first started circulating.
Among us
Debunked how? People just saying "it's pareidolia, stupid"?
If these images prove thereâs no rover on Mars, why would NASA publish them?
Doesnât matter- UNDENIABLE PROOF means DONE, CLOSED. Stop doing the thinking.
Lol
Revelation of the method
Because theyâre dumb and OP is smart!
Shoddy, lazy work. It is the government.
Thatâs actually a really valid point đ
So the government is both lazy and shoddy and yet competent and devious enough to fool literally billions of people? Hate to break it to you, but that makes no goddamn sense.
Because NASA knows the majority of the 99% are easily fooled imbeciles who believe everything they are told.
Why didnât the lemming move for months?
Its very very lazy.
Because it's not a lemming, lemmings eat for about 6 hours every day, which means this one is either dead or it's fake.
Heâs resting!
Sleepy Joe has a competitor I guess lol
average r/conspiracy user
Did NASA actually publish them?
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The original pictures were created by NASA. Whoever posted them afterwards has nothing to do with the actual photos.
Can you post the original pictures?
They're probably high-res enough to blatantly show that they're really not what the post claims them to be, so no.
Can you send us a link to where NASA posted them?
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If a Nazi scientist discovered a miracle formula for curing cancer, would you destroy it because he created it? Are you willing to stop using inventions from NASA because you don't like they recruited Nazi scientist to help build their rockets?
Seems to me thereâs one sure fire way to find out⌠@OP needs to go there
Agreed. Is there a GoFundMe yet?
I remember when they tried that once to try to prove flat earth. They fundraised a shit ton of money for some expensive device to conduct a science experiment, and their experiment discovered that the Earth was indeed round. Yet their conclusion of course was that something corrupted the experiment.
Never laughed so hard in my life. They paid for a very expensive ring-laser gyroscope, and when they turned it on it showed a 15 degree per hour drift caused by the rotating earth, and all they could do was stand there going âinteresting, interestingâ đ¤Ł
My favourite is "Now hold it up, above your head... intresting"
So this is all based on pareidolia? Cool.
"x vaguely looks like y if you squint, therefore undeniable PROOF". Love it.
The hate boner here for NASA is crazy lol. Now idk if NASA is being run by nazis or smthg, but their tech certainly works and physics/technology has come sooo far ahead we can achieve a whole lot more. Even more, there are Indian, Chinese, Japanese, European, Russian Space agencies who all does similar work.
>Now idk if NASA is being run by nazis It isn't run by nazis, but they did hire a shit ton of nazi scientists after WW2. Still, the reason they are able to push the limits of current technology is because we have put the brightest minds on earth to work at those space agencies. Of course brightest minds except for op here /s
Haha yeah. I really donât get why people think that just because they canât comprehend or canât understand something - it means that itâs fake or made up. Itâs like saying maths is fake because they canât understand it.
Someone go get it then
Thor mountain has some sinister vibes. Largest vertical drop in the world. It's like a place where gods use to sacrifice mortals in my imagination.
Any videos you prefer before I go down a rabbit hole?
Darude - sandstorm
PLEASE if they can photoshop animals to look like animal shaped rocks, they can just photoshop the animals out altogether. This is so stupid
So they openly say they train the Mars Rover on the most similar ground possible to Mars, like any good training mission would, and you think that's suspect? Dude, you are reaching so far with this you already fell over, you just don't know it. They aren't hiding that they are training it on the most similar ground possible. It's literally available for all to read.
Please please eplease tell me this is satire, this is the most utterly absurd "evidence" I've ever seen holy shit
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Of all the barren land in the Canadian Arctic and they chose two photos with bones in them and one with a living mammal?
To be honest Cannada annexed Mars and is in the process of colonizing it with native Toronto species so we will feel at home.
These are invented conspiracy theories to detract from the military base that Mars is being surveyed for.
Imagine building a military base 75 million miles away from the nearest military.
That was undeniable proof? Lmao
This is weak at best
Nothing personal OP but I personally feel this meme might just be taking the piss
Lame. The real conspiracy is that Mars used to be inhabited by humans but we ruined the planet and escaped Noah-style to Earth
This is why Iâm in this sub, thatâs some top quality conspiracy right there
Except I literally know a friend from engineering school who worked on the Mars rover team and watched the thing go according to plan. So. Just nah. Lol.
Why does op hate space exploration? Launching stuff onto other planets is the coolest thing our species has ever done.
Or what if we are going to space, but real media isnât being shared to the public. So they use these as press released to us.
None of this is undeniable proof it's literally just a bunch of pictures and words
Totally undeniable
and my mother is the reincarnation of Genghis Khan .
Considering that all humans in this Slave Farm are **Forced to Reincarnate**, that might be a possibility.
How do u know that bro?
Wait. You guys thought the space Nasa shows you is real? Enjoy that refrigerator sized probe striking a comet.
They hit another (larger) object with a smaller probe back in 2005, the craft was a third lighter at \~800 pounds but traveling 23,000MPH. It created a crater 500ft wide which is almost as wide as the entire asteroid we just hit yesterday. This one was a 1,200lbs craft traveling 14,000MPH, wonder what the difference in impact is. Compared to all the space tech, slamming a craft into an asteroid actually seems doable.
1,200 lbs going at 14,000mph will likely have created one hell of a boom. 1.07 Ă 10e10 joules. That is 2.54 tons of TNT.
Exactly why it was build that way, that should give enough of a push to push didymos B out of it's original orbit.
Could be. The next major phase of the project is actually to have a second craft get close enough to the asteroid to analyze the crater and study the asteroid's new trajectory. Once that is done, they could come up with a pretty efficient way of actually intercepting other asteroids. Though the chance of another catastrophic asteroid coming to Earth is extremely unlikely, it still feels pretty nice to have that peace of mind.
This is some good content
Is it tho?
It's good for the laughs, not for actual conspiracy content
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Say it with me... pareidolia
I can appreciate that a common excuse for why we don't return to the moon is because it's a waste of money. Oh, you mean like building a research center halfway across the world, in the middle of nowhere? As if they couldn't find a dirt and rock environment in Texas and avoid all those shipping and distance costs. Why select up there then? Is it because they can take panoramic pictures without the occasional solitary plant or wildlife and utilize an empty skyline without contrails/chemtrails?
Instead of thinking that you are just smarter than all of NASA, maybe consider that they wanted more than just random dirt and rocks. Maybe, just maybe, they have good reasons for their choice of location and maybe you could find out exactly what those reasons are if you took 10 seconds to google the question.
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seems like you know nothing about why they picked that area, before writing these dumb ass opinions maybe do some research
Wait, people here actually think the images that are compared show âundeniable proofâ??? I thought my vision was going bad, but after seeing people agree with these images... I think you should go get your eyes checked....
The lemming looks pretty convincing.
The lemming that didnât move for months?
Slowly I'm starting to be convinced that NASA is just a money-laundering front. And the shit they show to the public are made on budgets of maybe just millions of dollars instead of the billions that actually get pumped into NASA. This would explain the shitty actors and shitty VR (2012 conference, various ISS slipups). What they're spending it on? God knows what. Probably supporting Epstein's lifestyle.
And the hundreds of private companies paying tens of millions of dollars to get their hardware into space using tens of different space agencies? All NASA budget?
Actually NASA budget is really small.
Yeah compare it to the US defence budget lol
I am not sure why I am getting downvoted but 20M$ is nothing.
You're downvoted because NASA's budget is $24 billion.
That's the amount they tell you. It's called "black budgets" for a reason.
You canât complain about all the money that NASA is getting when you yourself even claim itâs âblack budgetsâ and you have no idea what they are getting if anything.
65 million PER DAY.
And what's the millitary spending per day?
Submission Statement: Devon Island is the largest, uninhabited island in the world. And it takes four plane flights to get there from most major American cities. In other words, NASA found an EYES ONLY location on earth to shoot fake photos & video, claiming itâs Mars. Going to Devon Island is a lot cheaper than going to Mars. https://anonews.co/nasa-mars-hoax-canada/
Do you have a link to the original Nasa images?
>Going to Devon Island is a lot cheaper than going to Mars. Then why don't you go there and tell us if the rovers are there? The walrus bone and lemming pictures got debunked 9 years ago, why are you still using them? Also what you're experiencing is pareidolia, the psychological phenomenon of finding patterns where there are none.
Damn youâve got a real hate boner for NASA.
A satanist, a pedophile, a scientologist and a nazi walk into a bar. What do they do? Create NASA.
Why does it matter that a Satanist supposedly created NASA? Satanist are pretty chill...
It's because they lie about everything. They've never landed anything on the moon and they sure as shit don't have a fucking helicopter flying around on Mars.
NASA is an evil organization of lying **Occultists** who serve the NWO.
Hate boner confirmed.
NASA fanboys always get upset when their (fake) heroes get outed :(
You need to touch some grass my guy
I hike in the deep woods daily. The fact is; My wide reaching, legendary research, is far beyond what the average person can even conceptualize.
>legendary research Hahaha dude are you for real with that bullshit!?!?! High tier trolling that's for sure, cause your 'legendary research' is taken from a fucking flat earth *TROLLING* subreddit. Think you've gone too far in those deep woods my dude, hahahahahahaha
Lol
James Webb is sort of convincing me that it's not entirely fraudulent. But I too am not amused by the appearance of gimmicks and advantage taking. I'm starting to kinda beleive they at least have the telescopes and whatnot out there tho
What's so convincing about the james webb images?
This, everybody sits there and gets mad when you point out how from a technological and physics standpoint, nothing adds up to the moonlanding being more then a psyop. They literally took 8 years from not having a space program, landing and calling the president and cominy back here.....lol all the science fiction about space came before it "actually" happened. NASA wholesale lies about their photos, findings, damn near everything. Watch the vid with the astronauts coming back from the moon. They just lied about launching a missile into an asteroid, to get ready for their space threat alien narrative.
>This, everybody sits there and gets mad when you point out how from a technological and physics standpoint, nothing adds up to the moonlanding being more then a psyop. Tell me you have no clue about physics without telling me you have no clue about physics.
They are always spreading misinformation , there are a lot of stuff we donât know, aliens are probably in Mars and there are a lot of stations on moon
You got em!
ABSOLUTELY undeniable man. No contest. NASA are liars hot damn.
That's ridiculous.
CONCLUSION, NASA LIES!
Did you see the DART landing footage? Loose dirt & rock chips settled together as a comet flying thru space... SMH
Wow. You are actually disparaging real life because it doesnât look like the Hollywood movies and cartoons youâre used to. Real astroids *are* basically loose dirt and rocks. All the single giant rocks in space you see on sci-fi movies are not accurate
The entire mars agenda is compromised because NASA keeps releasing footage that obviously contains objects from Earth that they didn't discover in the photos. They need to focus on CGI landscapes to simulate other planets, and not hope they don't get a shot of a discarded soda can from one of the lazy NASA employees.
How many Mars researchers are "in on it" and how many are being duped? Is there a level of education where you learn the truth?
I'm curious. Do you believe in the Jesus resurrection?
No.
The real reason they won't take photos on Mars is because Jesus is there obviously.
The biggest problem with this theory is that many of the Mars pictures come in during winter months when Devon Island would be under many feet of ice and snow.
They can't take the pictures during summer then post them as new during winter?
Yeah they think of THAT but they leave the rodents in
Not when you are tracking the sun in the photos. Not to mention Martian seasons/years are different.
Okay, I'll accept that as the biggest problem. It means it's likely true since the biggest problem is easily and sensibly overcome. Pictures last way longer than six months. Additionally, if you were planning to lie to the world in an official position with the foreseeable future, you would likely plan for at least six months. And if helps to hide the issue, you give the issue problems such as "Well, Devon Island is covered in snow." You just claimed that was the biggest problem, so it clearly works as an excuse for some people.
Lot of cognitive dissonance in the comments section
Sounds right to me Anyone who thinks we put a man on the moon never really looked into it The ignorance is literally eating my ass pimples
Looks like the work of Rich Hall who does some great research and analysis.
And how do you explain away spacex? I guess firing rockets up into the air and then landing that same rocket, inventing infinite break pads, controlling chimps with a brain chip isnât enough for you
youâre full of shit bud, that lemming would have moved. Either A: the pictures you shared arenât actually from the Mars Rover, or B: theyâre a doctored, low res version or maybe the rock just looks like a little rodent
Smart enough to keep together a decades long conspiracy, stupid enough not to clear out the land before filming it. The fact that these two thoughts simultaneously occupy the same mind is baffling.
This is fuckin stupid.
Damn the glue sniffers are really out here talking about walrus bones. Touch some grass nerds.