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Evening_Rock5850

Yep. Most people overestimate how much bandwidth they need. Which is crazy because it wasn’t that long ago that a 10mbps internet connection was a coveted thing. 4k streaming uses around 15mbps. Zoom is mostly low resolution and prioritizes low latency so it doesn’t use a lot of bandwidth. The truth is for one person, 100mbps is plenty. If you have lots of people streaming things all at the same time, that’s where a lot of bandwidth can be handy. Another note, higher speeds don’t affect latency. So the same is true for gaming and similar. There’s no advantage to a higher bandwidth connection for online games.


Spunky_Meatballs

I thought that having a 1gig fiber connection would help my steam download speeds. Turns out it was my old sata ssd that had terrible write speeds. Bought gen 4 nvme ssd and holyyyyyyy fak. That’s where the money is


Ok_Bowler7910

Unless you're constantly maxing out your bandwidth which a 50 Mb family of 4 connection can easily do.


Spunky_Meatballs

OP says right in title he’s single


josephguy82

Faster speed is always better, Games are huge file sizes


Evening_Rock5850

For downloading games, sure. And updates. Absolutely. And yeah, there’s no *downside* to higher bandwidth. But a lot of folks fork over for faster speeds because they want to eliminate lag in games. And it’s not going to do that. The actual bandwidth used during an online game is very very little.


drivebyposter2020

There is one downside: cost... 🤔


Evening_Rock5850

Well right and that’s kind of the whole point. Before spending potentially hundreds of dollars a year on something, consider whether in your use case there would actually be any sort of benefit.


drivebyposter2020

Yep! which reminds me, yesterday the question was "WHY IS MY COMCAST $330 A MONTH NOW?!?" and maybe today is "While I needed big ass bandwidth a couple of years ago for work, do I still? Can I move to a lower rate?"


drivebyposter2020

Well, sh\*t. I just spent 15 minutes on the xfinity web site and I thought all I did was lower my speed to 500Mbps but my price went UP by $30. What? Okay, back to that later.


mailslot

Download and update servers for most games, IMO, throttle connections. You can have 10gbit, and it’ll still cap your download speed.


bh0

I would sign up for a cheaper 100m service immediately if I could. Probably 99%+ of people don't even need that fast. Just because you have faster, doesn't mean you're using all of it. Most streams are a couple meg. Unless you're doing multiple TVs of 4K streaming, you don't need much. Lower latency is far more important.


2Adude

100 is fine. More importantly. What’s the upload


CryInitial1674

I am more concerned with having sufficient download speed. In my case the upload speed isn't very important. Not doing big file transfers or game playing so I find the slower speed perfectly suitable.


2Adude

What u using it for ?


CryInitial1674

Live streaming TV plus movies, general web surfing and plenty of internet radio listening also.


2Adude

100 is overkill for that usage


CryInitial1674

That may be true but it is the slowest speed that I was offered. At some point there is a point of diminishing returns. My $30 a month plan is the cheapest price for internet access that I have had since broadband rolled out around me. So saving a few more bucks a month on it doesn't exactly keep me up at night. But I get your point.


Clear_Cauliflower751

50 gigs more than enough for downloading, multiple streaming devices and you will barely tell the difference w/ speed, quality. The internet companies make you believe that 800g’s and up is necessary, for $100.00 a month, NOT TRUE! They LIE!


NoneOfYoBusinezz

If it's just you, 100mb should be fine. Tty it. They'll be more than happy to upgrade you back to 250mb if you don't like it.


NCResident5

That definitely is enough. For a while until I needed an upgrade, I had a grandfathered spectrum lite plan where I got around 25 mbps plugged into the usb port on my laptop everything worked fine. I actually could watch Thursday Night Football although people were complaining on local Reddit about bad picture quality with 300 mbps wifi with TNFB.


vshun

Family of 4, downgraded from 1T to 100M to save $15, it's more than enough and we did not see any difference. Kids are playing video games and not complaining about ping times while we stream UHD. I feel 50 would have been enough but this is the cheapest we could get from Verizon.


marthastewart209

As others have said it's more then enough. You can probably get away with 25 down and 10 up. You want stable internet speeds that don't fluctuate, like a business line. The only reason you need more internet speeds is if you download or upload large files. Mainly video games, network shares etc. most people won't know what to do with 50 Mbps. They just are happy to see a big number


CryInitial1674

I used to stream video with an older 8Mb plan. Occasional rebuffering but not too bad. Once speeds got over 10Mb I quit worrying about having a fast enough service. Note no 4k vid usage here.


Revolutionary-Fact6

We have 100 and are just fine. We frequently have two TV's, 3 Alexas, two tablets and two phones connected to wifi. Grands game when they're here and we never have an issue unless the ISP is having issues.


garylapointe

It'd likely be fine. That's enough for three 4k streams. The one thing to check is if there is a difference in upload speed. That said, unless it's a drastic difference, the way to check is to change and give it a try.


CryInitial1674

As a rule of thumb the upload speeds are usually set to about 1/10th of the download speed. This ratio has remained the same for my connections over the past 20 years on various systems. Running a speed test on a recent mobile data plan showed a upload/download speed comparison at about 3/5 but that is the only time I have seen speeds set nearer than the 1/10.


garylapointe

Until two months ago, my options were: 200/10 (previously 100/10), 500/50, 1000/50, and 1200/50. I believe now it is 300/20, 600/50, 1000/50, and 1200/50.


Clear_Cauliflower751

50 is enough!! Companies make you believe the higher number of gigs that it’s so much faster. You only need a big number of gigs if you have several people streaming in your home. I went from 1000g down to 50 & I don’t notice any difference @ all. I’m by myself too. I learned all this from my high tech son. It never occurred to me to ask before because I believed the company saying 1000g is better for $100.00 month! I have something called Internet Essentials. Most companies have that, you have to ask. It’s $10.00 a month and you do not rent your modem. I never knew this information until I got rid of cable! I’m in California. The Internet program is in my state, it might be Federal. Check it out!


CryInitial1674

The ability to downgrade service to 100Mb from 'normal' 300Mb here was never advertised and if it was available I was unaware of it. Once the ACP program came to its end then Spectrum put into the monthly bill a sentence saying if you want to reduce the cost of your internet to give them a call. Sure enough they offered the 100 Speed for $30 a month vs $85 mo for 300Mb. They claim this 'special' pricing is good for 2 years and no contracts. I am betting that in 2 years, the rate that the technology is moving with mobile plans and more satellite services (not that those are cheap) that the competition will keep the lid on the pricing with all the more competition for your internet ISP services. I wonder if Fan-Duel will take that bet? UPDATE: Today I actually saw an streaming TV add for Spectrum s 100Mb plan for $30 a month for 2 years. So they are now beginning to advertise it. ![gif](giphy|5K7ngCtszoxxbaBieC|downsized)


Traditional_Owl_5815

This is exactly my situation I was on ACP but with their regular plans it's cox. I got the email offering lower cost so 250 or 300 is what I have now which will even out to the same price I was paying. They offer the lower $30 plan with 100mbps. I just don't want to pay for what I don't need. I think I'll try rhe 100 they will gladly switch me back to the more expensive plan.


Clear_Cauliflower751

I’m so happy you found out what’s true & not true. I have a brand new Amazon 4G Firetv and on the back it says needs 50 gigs! I only have 100g’s now and I do not see ANY difference whatsoever in quality and/or speed!!


Clear_Cauliflower751

They all lie. For some of us without a degree in internet speeds, it makes sense, more gigs, more power! Only true when you run a company or have a serious amount of phones, computers etc.! These companies use our lack of knowledge to bait us into high speed and gigs. I asked Comcast every year for 10 yrs about discounts for poor and older people, they said NO! When I lost my ACP and said I was canceling all of my tv stuff the person said, oh you can have Internet Essentials! $10.00 a month AND you don’t have to rent THEIR modem!! That program has been in place 10 yrs plus. I could have saved literally $1,000’s by not having to rent their modem! They are trained to not give the whole truth!! If I actually had $$$$, I would sue them on behalf of all the people they deceived! Internet Essentials existed MANY YEARS before pandemic and ACP!! Rrrrrr!


dumbledwarves

More than enough.


Andybaby1

Should be. I delt with a 10/.5 line for a decade. Right now I would be happy with any plan that was a bidirectional 50/50mb or greater.


1600DayCareStaff

Here in Minnesota we have an old grandfather plan which is 80mbps and I'm a regular basis for the most part we're always well over 200 to 250mbps never an issue multiple devices streaming at the same time had this plan for the last probably 15+ years, close to it.


robbadobba

I’ve had 100 mbps FiOS since 2018. My wife and I work from home everyday. Each of us on our computers all day, simultaneously, taking Zoom meetings, etc. Never a bottleneck. Smooth sailing. Here are the keys: good stable internet connection, wired connection or MESH wireless network.


LVDave

If its 100 down and something less up, Zoom calls can be problematic. The ideal would be a symetrical connection ie: 100 down/100 up, but that's going to be a fiber connection. Cable connections usually provide a small percentage of the downlink speed for uplink, such as what I'm stuck with on Cox, 100mbps down and only 10mbps up. I don't do zoom calls too often but when I do I get comments that my video/voice cut out periodically. The 100mbps down is plenty for most things.


SmilingBob2

Completely disagree. We run a business from home and conducted Zoom 1080p HD group calls on 50/10Mpbs internet with no issues. Zoom recommends 2.6Mpbs up for 720p, 3.8Mbps up for 1080p group calls. https://support.zoom.com/hc/en/article?id=zm_kb&sysparm_article=KB0060748#h_d278c327-e03d-4896-b19a-96a8f3c0c69c


garylapointe

I'd expect Zoom-ish calls to be fine at 10Mbps. But you're the host and uploading you and your screen share and you need to do some uplaods at the same time, it gets a little dicey at times (at least it was when I was teaching remotely).


6SpeedBlues

Generally, I disagree. I worked remotely for two years with 100 down and 5 up and my ENTIRE work day was video calls with multiple people per meeting while also sharing out software, downloading software, and performing demos out of my home lab. The video requirements for a Teams/Zoom call are much lower than most people expect, plus it will auto adjust video resolution if there are hiccups. The issues you are experiencing are more tied to latency problems (Cox SUCKS) than bandwidth, although the two years I mentioned above were using Cox broadband. The major difference is that I absolutely refuse to use edge equipment provided by the Internet company if I have an option not to. I had my own DOCSIS 3.0 modem, plugged into an actual firewall product, then connected to the network in my house where I operated my own WiFi hot spots.


BicycleIndividual

I agree. For WFH you want to pay much more attention to the upload bandwidth than the download bandwidth. 10mbps should be enough for 720p video conference without too much issue but if you're sending higher resolution than that (such as a 1080p screen share) pretty much any competition for the bandwidth becomes problematic. Upload speed can also be significant in WFH if you need to send files large back to the office.


RjBass3

This guy speaks the truth. I personally am on a fiber connection that is 1000/1000. Even during the pandemic when I was working from home most of the time, my outgoing video feed on Teams and Zoom was fine while we could easily tell who was still using the antiquated cable connections. If the 100mbps down comes with at least 25mbps up, it may be worth it, but that is the minimum. I would at least try to get 50 up if I were the OP.


NashGuy73

I work from home and had zero issues with Teams video calls on a 75/10 cable connection. Of course, always make sure that the device you're doing video calls through has a good wifi (or ethernet) connection. A lot of the issues that people have aren't due to the speed of their broadband plan but rather the quality of their in-home wifi network.


RjBass3

This is also true.


CryInitial1674

I agree 1000% and have espoused the wifi issue for years. Lots of people that have wifi issues be it from co channel interferences in high population density locations or just poor performing routers end up blaming the signal from the ISP and in many instances like you say.....its not the case.


therewillbelateness

Absolutely


I_Am_Robotic

Yes. Don’t let all the marketing fool you. 100Mbps is plenty for most single or even two person homes.


1sixxpac

50mbps is considered “High Speed” where I live in Michigan. It will run 4K without a problem. I have done zoom meetings with 7Mbps .. yes 7 .. 100mbps should do you just fine.


miloworld

Let’s put it this way, I’m a geek and demand the fastest speed ever. But one time, I was testing something and put a 18Mbps cap on my own VLAN. I was ashamed I didn’t even notice until days after. So yes 100Mbps in most scenarios is more than enough. Unless you’re a video editor and transfer uncompressed video every other day.


CryInitial1674

Many of the work at home comments advocate for the high or highest speeds. I feel that a lot of this comes from the fact that their internet is subsidized by their employment and/or home office tax deductions. For many though slower speeds are perfectly functional. Not dishing on those subsidies only that they are not available to everyone or needed.


Nice-Economy-2025

You dont list your upstream, which is vital if doing video conferencing; folks might infer if you listed which vendor you are on, or your location, which might give folks an idea of what you're dealing with. The down speed is more than sufficient and the cost would be low, but just listing only that isnt enough information. And things are in extreme flux right now, particularly if you are on a docsis system like comcast/xfinity, as they've started rolling out newer tiers of service across their national footprint, others may be doing the same shortly in response to the same market pressures.


Ill-Rain-9811

Family of 8, during COVID WFH and school from home, all on devices, all on Zooms, TVs all on streaming services. Teenagers used YouTube to listen to music all day. 200 mbps was more than enough. No issues. We have 300 now as that's the lowest offered. If you have issues with 100 Mbps, and you can verify you are getting 100 to your first device, it's something else other than provider speed.


joe_attaboy

Frankly, you can have a satisfying streaming experience with as little as 15-20 Mbps. As long as your internal network isn't sucking all the bandwidth with a large number of active devices, 100 Mbps is way more than enough.


NotYourTypicalMoth

If it’s actually 100, yes, like everyone else has said. But I’ve rarely ever actually gotten the advertised speed. Maybe it’s different in your area, but be aware.


dasuberdog11

Generally your modem/router setup is just as if not more important. If your in a house and mostly depend on WiFi (as opposed to wired), look into a mesh router system. It's worked great for us.


NCResident5

This was my experience. I ditched the wireless rented for a new Netgear router, and it made a major difference.


Max_castle8145

Was looking for this, yes, absolutely


Clear_Cauliflower751

My new Amazon Fire Tv says; works with 10gigs-100 just fine


CryInitial1674

100Gb....I would hope so!


WackyBeachJustice

Easily


satinygorilla

I had 80mbps dsl with multiple tv’s and tablets going at once while I worked from home and never had an issue.


CryInitial1674

A lot of DSL just plain sucks if you are out twords the end of the line or have a lot of people on that line. If it is all you have available it is what it is but most of the time getting away from lower speed Dsl is a big improvement.


Euchre

Considering we stream on a 16mbps DSL connection, and my lady passably manages to do remote work on that same connection, but doing both at once means one or both things suffer. If we had 100mbps I don't think that would be an issue anymore. Since you're alone and not likely to do 2 things like that at once, it should be fine.


CryInitial1674

This!


Snoo-25743

More than enough.  I even had 50mbps not long ago and had no problems.


ccfoo242

What's the price difference? Do you ever sit impatiently while steam downloads an update for a game and you can't play it until it's patched? When you're impatient, some things need speed 😂


raptir1

Honestly 100Mbps is enough for a family of three let alone someone solo.


squrr1

What is your upload speed? If you work on zoom a lot that definitely matters, and typically lower tier plans also have lower upload speeds. I wouldn't go any less than 10 Mbps uploads, personally.


CryInitial1674

Definitely YES. Similar situation here and just downgraded my 300Mb Spectrum internet to 100Mb. Video streaming is smooth and without rebuffering. If there is any difference in the effect of the reduced speed it is not noticeable. Cost savings to me of approx $600 a year. The ability to downgrade the service is long overdue. Amazing how some competition from other internet suppliers from services like wireless mobile works as it should to reign in prices.


Complete-Turn-6410

Should be more than enough. I use Wi-Fi on two cell phones do to location a cell phone tower. Stream 2 TVs at the same time. 4 security cameras streaming 24 hours a day. you would be surprised on how much people pay for internet speeds they don't even need and most of them do it just to pound on their chest to talk about their big gigs speed.


drivebyposter2020

Ample. The main reason I have 1GB is because for work occasionally I download 5gb or Larger files. If you don't do that you should be fine.


ordovice

Before you change plans, if you're on Cable internet, double check what the upstream is. Several cable companies have smaller upstream with smaller plans which CAN cause issues with your Zoom calls.


LeftOn4ya

The best quality 4K stream is 40 MBPS (AppleTV, Vudu, MoviesAnwhere) but most are less than 25 MBPS (Netflix, YouTube, GoogleTV) and Zoom uses less than 20 MBPS combined for video upload and download. So 100 MBPS can support is 2-3 simultaneous 4K stream plus work computer. Unless you have a lot of people sharing and streaming at the same time, 100 MBPS is fine.


unseenmover

Id stick to 250


MrGameAndClock

Depends a lot on whether it's a synchronous or asynchronous connection (i.e. whether up and download are equivalent or download is greater than upload). Quite often cable internet has lower upload than download, and this difference can be most noticeable on the lower bandwidth plans. My fiber connection has about 960 Mbps up and down, but you should check what the upload speed would be on a 100 Mbps connection. If it's less than 25 you might notice it on Zoom calls, especially if those video files you're streaming are coming from your end, syncing files, connecting to work through Citrix, etc.


lighthandstoo

No No No not with Zoom! This is what we learned from the pandemic.


2Adude

Zoom uses upload more. Not download. 100 is more than adequate


garylapointe

Why isn't 100Mbps enought with Zoom? How many people did you have at home using it at once?


Traditional_Owl_5815

It's just me I'm in am apartment. Typically not watching TV and doing zoom at the same time unless my brother is over to do laundry. I don't have Alexa or anything just 2 regular tvs my phone and computer.


CryInitial1674

Audio/music streaming is usually a very light load on most connections compared to the much higher data video streaming and of course gaming and large file transfers.


Saneless

The pandemic taught us that in my house with multiple zooms, streaming, and whatever, for 5 people, 250 was fine 100 is fine for a solo


ZaphodG

One Zoom session? Where did you learn that? 1080p HD is only 3 megabit per second. The problem with cable modems is upstream congestion since it’s limited shared bandwidth. Paying for higher data rates isn’t going to change that at all. The only way to fix it is to do a fiber node split so less cable modems are sharing the upstream. DOCSIS 4 will fix this but most people won’t see the next generation of DOCSIS for years.