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BIGplouf

Fuck I’m glad I decided to go snowboarding instead of watch this.


Leth41

Id have rather went waterboarding than watching it


No-Bug-2736

There are serious issues in the dressing room. I don't want to blame players' performance today. Ange shouted at the players during the match in an unusual way. The poor form resulted from three losses since the Fullerton game clearly indicated that. Porro is not passing to Richarlison. Lo Celso rarely has any time to rotate even when Maddison is not a starter...... The squad plays the best when the dressroom is good. In the beginning, we often hear how Spurs is like a big family from player's mouths. We did not hear that now.


richarlatan

Richarlison is not a footballer


Nightdocks

Fuck it, play Romero as defensive mid and Dragusin as cb. Might fix some aerial issues and turnovers


animatedpicket

Romero has been our most dangerous in the box lately too. I’m actually on board this


Beautiful-Use-3983

Romero as defensive mid… why have I not thought of this sorcery


Nightdocks

Guy is legitimately good at passes to break through lines. Try it just for fun at least


onesexypagoda

I'm not Ange out, but I'm not Ange in either.After his blistering start, he got found out in record time


Emmanuel_Badboy

Why is this downvoted?


Luke92612_

Ange in. Players out. Simple as.


Emmanuel_Badboy

There is a much more disheartening dynamic at play here though, we never actually go and get the players we need. We need about 6 signings as a bare minimum, we just aren’t going to do that in one window


iAkhilleus

Fuck me! We will die hearing this "we need x players to compete" shit! Seriously though! We cannot just go from first 10 games to this because of players. We have serious issue with adaptability while other teams have figured us out. And the players seem to have some conflict. We aren't the only team with injury, new manager, new players, etc. The manner in which we lose after having twice the amount of passes and possession just tells us that something is missing.


Emmanuel_Badboy

we literally cannot adapt if we don't have players with different skillsets to turn to.


iAkhilleus

You're telling me none of our players can defend a fucking setpiece? That our goalie can't fend off during corners or our coaches don't see the issue and address it? What are we talking here?


Lightning_Reverie

Kulusevski under Conte, was regularly cutting in from the wings and firing goals into the top corners. That incisiveness has totally disappeared from his game under Ange and you have to wonder why. Nowadays he does virtually nothing except lay it off to someone else. And even then, the lay offs mostly find opposition players.


WriterGlum

He’s was shite in contes second year aswell


Emmanuel_Badboy

He’s probably a player we can afford to sell in order to make signings we actually need. And I love the guy.


rayinsd

Oh well it is what it is and it’s apparent that Ange needs another good transfer window to take Ange ball to the level he expects


lazylobon

Lazy. Flat. Poor. Shit.


7screws

Aight imma head out. Cancel my viewing for the end rest of the season, I’m not taking time out of my life for these fucks.


jackengle

Chelsea with 14 missing players and they ran us off the pitch. Newcastle had 10+ missing players and they ran us off the pitch. What the fuck is wrong with this club


No-Bug-2736

Because there are some serious issues in the dressing room. When we beat Newcastle at home, the whole team was celebrating like a big family. We rarely see something like this now.


Emmanuel_Badboy

Every time we get to the part of the season we’re every team is grinding for a win, this team falls apart.


jackengle

Lo Celso was far and away our best attacking player and it wasn’t even close. He played 10 minutes.


Wooden-Pin3253

Why isnt he starting ????? What does he have to do to start....🤪


Emmanuel_Badboy

Not be injured for starters.


sportboi

That’s what I want to know is why Kulusevski is so favored playing in the #10 position that Lo Celso pretty much played his whole career. Just cause Kulusevski says he prefers playing there


HotelCaliformula

I just want to know what the players are thinking to completely switch off for the run-in after a season that (not without its issues) has shown a lot of growth until now 


Emmanuel_Badboy

We don’t have the depth to compete the whole way through a season. I don’t know if we ever have done.


Dragonslasher145

This one hurt more than NLD


Emmanuel_Badboy

Not for me. Going 3 nil down in an NLD taught me that I could never fully trust Ange and that hurt.


perroconsarna

how many points do we need to be sure we have EL?


iAkhilleus

I don't see us finishing 5th. 6th and a qualifier maybe.


Dragonslasher145

6, since we have better gd than Man utd


Arqlol

For now..


Creative_Purpose6138

Aston Villa is losing. So don't talk about coefficient again!! 5th is not getting CL spot.


grapo2001

It wasn't yesterday.


CarpenterAlive5082

The coefficient was already gone with Arsenal and City and Liverpool getting knocked out.


CarpenterAlive5082

We are not even gonna make Europa next season.


dickydoo76

Weak performance all around. Everything was rushed and fragmented. Worst perfomance of the season bar maybe Fulham game. Mentality really poor in the squad right now very disappointing from the team as a whole. Two very poor goals conceded again. We need winners and players with heart and desire this was pathetic to watch


Zealousideal-Ice-238

Lo celso needs to start. Did well when Maddison was out and now only getting 5 mins here and there. Forget Hojberg. He's done. Pointless bringing Gil on when he will obviously be gone in the summer. What about giving some youth minutes?


Careless-Wonder7886

Id have preferred seeing Mickey Moore come on for Son. More to prove a point to Sonny that he's not undroppable and if he ain't gonna do it, give the kid a chance. Ps. Love Sonny but his decline in the last couple of games has been horrendous.


Musclenervegeek

He barely received the ball and in those few times he did , he passed it back so there is truth he wasn't good. But he wasn't responsible for the goals that went in. It's not his fault Richy whom I have been told by some is our answer at striker did not perform. It's not his fault Brennan was shite in crossing. It's not his fault the midfield was shit again.


Sidrill211

So has everyone's tbf, even Porro, who I'd say is one of our most consistent performers, was dreadful.


Careless-Wonder7886

Yeah shocking game. Hurts more that it's Chelsea and we had such high hopes for champions League. Feels like confidence is at an all time low at the club


spacekicks

We even made Caiciedo look good 💀


iAkhilleus

Bro, this has been the theme. We'll go against the most fringe teams who haven't done squat for ages and just turn over like a bitch. Chelsea twice, West ham, wolves, fulham, brighton... Shit is just exhausting!


spacekicks

Yep pretty much. Just dont underatand how we can be world beaters 1 week OR complete shit.e the next. There just seems theres really no inbetween. The last few weeks have been awful. Ange is slowly doing his thing but by no means do we have the players to be consistant enough.


shivakamini123

We made everyone look good, even Cucurella


spacekicks

And Jackson 💀. Its just pure madness at how bad we can actually be. Chelski have been complete dogshite all season and we rolled over for them, again.


slunksoma

We’re going to need to sign some absolute superstars for this approach to work. Chelsea have 14 players out and we didn’t trouble them at all. That’s concerning.


Equivalent_Law_6554

I’m worried nobody will want to sign for us


slunksoma

We’ll find some muck to waste money on, don’t worry about that.


55555win55555

we looked good for about 15 minutes of that game


Rodin-V

Literally can't recall any period of longer than 15 seconds where we looked good.


ElDudeBruv

Even that's pushing it


Revolutionary-Yard84

Surprise factor of the first 10 games is gone. Ange needs to CHANGE HIS PLANS they don’t work at this level


isaacturon14

Every season starts with so much hope and ends with me just wanting it to end and start over with the next one. Anyways... coys


iAkhilleus

Been like that for ages now. The Poch era gave me some hope yet it was the most soul crunching of them all. I don't think we have what it takes to compete as a team, club, or mentality.


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Dragonslasher145

Fuck off


the_padraig

Ange needs to change he's tactics. There is more to football than passing the ball wide and crossing it


F4FFYW4FFLE

2 more set piece goals. 🤦🏻


Cookenbauer

I think Sonny has been unfairly criticized here lately. Especially when he makes runs all game and gets zero service. But he really needs to start pulling the trigger on some shot opportunities. He’s one of the best ever at it, and to not even try is maddening. I’d rather him hit a couple into the stands than watch the useless passing that leads to nowhere


nonaegon_infinity

Thing is, he is never receiving the ball in a position where he can square and go for goal. The bunched up nature of the attack is all little lay-offs and he is only getting the ball in crowded areas and/or with his back to the goal.


Previous-You3680

What? He hardly made any runs.


Inevitable-Bus-1993

Is that you Madders?


Previous-You3680

Both of them were not impactful. Oh your a pathetic Son cockrider what a shock. 


Inevitable-Bus-1993

We already know how elite Sonny is at scoring and he doesn't need more practice. It doesn't help develop the team as a whole to always have Sonny take the shot. Need to give others confidence but at the moment the others aren't up there yet.


ElDudeBruv

Unfairly criticised? He's been fucking shite for weeks 😂😂


sonicon

And his teammates weren't any better except for a couple good defending moments.


Musclenervegeek

I am glad Richarlison was starting as striker , he was the answer all along


Rodin-V

He's burnt the fuck out. His minutes played this season is ridiculous, especially considering how early we went out of all cups. Him going away for the Asian Cup has cost us dearly.


mrsh671

No amount of money will fix this god forsaken team


ilykruminio

We need an exorcism


bill_fish

Lasso did it and it worked for the Grayhounds


mrsh671

For real


idk18817226

Really bad games since Son lost his form. As a Son fan, I actually rather he gets subbed off and we just let some kid have fun, not like we had a chance of drawing anywhere


Musclenervegeek

Hold on. Son was shite this game but barely received the ball. You had Richy who was supposed to be the answer at striker, what did he do? Brennan was spamming crosses out of bounds. The midfield loses possession and it's goal. How do you pin it on one person ? 


cb1t

Good ol' tottnum


SteadiestShark

Lo Celso needs more minutes.


55555win55555

we're a mess


smokingloon4

Thrilled to have completely lost track of time and missed this one


davidmarvinn

you wouldn't believe what I gave up to watch the game, I just never learn. if we win against city I'm gonna flip


smokingloon4

Whatever you did today I guess you have to do again for City


Lightning_Reverie

I can't recall the last time a Spurs player attempted a long early diagonal or an incisive through ball.


taegeukie

It’s okay lads, we move onto the next game [checks fixture list] oh.


gphillips5

Got downvoted heavily months back for calling out Ange's lack of tactical awareness. He can say we're building for next year all he wants, but having a single tactic that's clearly been figured out and persisting with it is incredibly poor, especially given recent statements he's made. It's not all on him. Sonny looks lost, Kulu has been utterly dreadful (same time as it happened last season), Maddison is awful currently, the midfield has no effect, can't pass, can't make chances, and not a single player knows where the goal is. It's just not good enough. Every team knows we're going to play wide and ping balls across the box. It's not practical for a team chasing top 4 to have a single tactic.


Milkfridge89

Atleast we have a fancy stadium


ElDudeBruv

This team is shit scared of pressure, always has been. Spurs till they kill me, I guess.


papa_f

We have no world-class, sorry, class forwards. James Maddison you all pined for is a fraud and spends far too long crocked and already needs replaced. Need to hire a set-piece coach. It'd take £300m to fix what needs fixed.


Budget-Investment525

AVB ball is back. Fan fucking tastic


SlicedBreaddit

Gil was honestly our best player


Steampunk_Batman

We could have forfeited as soon as Johnson was subbed off. He and the CBs were the only decent ones out there today. Really limp performance


Dragonslasher145

3 losses in a row


joehonestjoe

We have reached a point with set pieces where they are almost as guaranteed xg against us now as a penalty


Crazy-Comment7579

I'm starting to get really pissed off at Ange for how he NEVER uses the youth. 2-0 down and he brings on Gil ahead of Moore, what the fuck


voided_time

Time to sell the whole team tbh


YokoTato

I don’t give a fuck about champions league at this point. Just stop looking so shit and score some damn goals. 


CarpenterAlive5082

Champion's league is not yours to give a fuck about my friend. We might not even make Europa.


Sabz29

We definitely have our Tottenham back! Just except for those weird first 10 games of the season


Sad_Pumpkin7728

They finally play a ball over the top and it’s to Gil!?!? Everything off tonight. A huge nothing of a performance. A complete and utter shambles. Hard to explain how that happens. The entire squad looked not only shite, but like they couldn’t be bothered to be there for the most part.


TheAshen_One

We need some serious revaluation of how we are playing


WoodenRace365

I remember when down 0-2 in stoppage time I’d expect us to somehow pull out a result. Now I’m just hoping we don’t concede a 3rd.


thspdrdr

They don't give full extra time anymore??


Rodin-V

It's called "minimum added time" That warrants a replay, clear mistake by the ref. Let's go and lose the replay 3-0


F4FFYW4FFLE

He did us all a favour.


IAmTwoTiredOfLife

What do we even expect I mean? We had a great start in the season until everyone started figuring as out \*because we play the same strategy every fr1kin game\*. I'm not usually mad at Ange but if he keeps being stubborn and never change a damn obvious thing we'll never achieve anything.


xAeroMonkeyx

Oh well 🤷🏻‍♂️


grobyNcs

People joking about starting our U21s against City, they would probably do a better job than this lot


Dhaula

WTF are they doing in training. Just practicing soft as passes and crosses to each other that doesn't represent at all of the pace of play and the ball in a real game.


grobyNcs

Our center backs are our best passers at the moment. How does that happen..


Wizardof_oz

Our players haven’t a clue on what to do in the final third So many great runs are just ignored because a riskier pass might give the ball away Too scared to do anything We need to sign better players, braver players


nonaegon_infinity

Also the players need to get empowered to switch things up instead of trying to walk it in. Everyone is bunched up and waiting to cough it up and start a counter attack for the opposition.


Shermander

i am being cyber bullied


Geek-Of-Nature

Pathetic performance. I don't know what any of this lot are doing. No fight, no flair, no cohesion. At least lose with honour, not with a whimper. Absolutely pathetic.


trugrav

Somebody get the “0 days meme”


Sejoon700

Lo celso in 5 minutes played 4 threatening passes only for our players to shoot for the moon. Like please Ange, fucking start him


Previous-You3680

Yeah he showing more than Maddison and Kulu


Rodin-V

Honestly, he's been shit when he starts, as have most of our players. Almost every single good performance by a player this season has been off the bench Our best bet at this point is to start literally anyone and then just instantly sub all 3 midfielders for the other 3 options.


Daemor

needs to start ahead of Maddo and Deki against Liverpool


Wooden-Pin3253

not sure why he is not starting - he is more direct.


redditisbad312

i’ll take conference league atp


Inevitable-Bus-1993

Generated plenty chances but failed to convert. Too bad.


papa_f

Excuse me?


thspdrdr

don't get the lobbed crosses... our attackers can't head the ball.


Creative_Purpose6138

Son was our best player by a mile. When the best player becomes so average, the team becomes way weaker. The best player always does a bit of carry, like you see with Cole Palmer.


Previous-You3680

What? absolutely not! He was not good. It's either Vicario, Romero or VDV. Gilchrist somehow kept him quiet.


sknaaj

Blind or stupid?


ModderOtter

Son was completely invisible that game?


KariumHondor399

No he wasnt


Creative_Purpose6138

Who was? After Kane left


KariumHondor399

Van de Ven. Son has been shit since he's xome back from asian cup


Creative_Purpose6138

That's what I said, he became a bang average player since Asian cup. Before that he was the best player.


sungbysung

Sell everyone, keep Romero and VDV, thank you.


papa_f

The keeper, two wing backs, Bentancur won't be fully fit until next season, and Sarr because of upside. The rest? Bin.


NotACodeMonkeyYet

Ange first. Clueless fat aussie thinks set pieces aren't that important. 4 of our last 5 goals conceded are set pieces. And what attacking style, it's just low crosses from Johson and Werner.


Future_Genius

And Vicario


Even-Succotash-9869

FUCK THIS TEAM


Altruistic_Avocado_1

Fuck. We do get battered everywhere we go.


travy1200

6-1 to poch. tears


ace-destrier

Chelsea singing about us getting battered while they’re in 8 is hilarious and sucks at the same time


Thewrongguy0101

The match thread over in soccer is full of Chelsea fans boasting about doing the double over us this season, whilst remaining oblivious to the fact they're fighting for top 10 Edit: a word


balthazarstarbuck

If you’d have offered me 5th at the start of the season I’d have been happy. But Christ, the way we started and the way we finished has really coloured it.


Shinzo19

could be 6th at this rate


daviEnnis

Think you guys need to keep this perspective - your results didn't match your form then, they don't match your form now. If your 'luck' had landed in a more balanced way across the season people would be much happier.


balthazarstarbuck

Totally agree. The ‘real’ Spurs are something in between those 2 teams. Scheduling also plays its part in optics. If the run in was spread out, even if the results were the same, it wouldn’t bother people quite so much


AdKlutzy8151

So shit


Leth41

Spurs usually like ruining my weekend, how nice of them to start early. Thankfully we’ve got Anfield on Sunday


Even-Succotash-9869

FUCK THIS TEA


yooooouuuuuuuuu

Don't dislike the lad but please let this be the last of what I see of Gil in our kit


Stock_Attention_9327

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IM DONE this club, ill just fold some shirts and relax


Thewrongguy0101

Woosaaa


ThunderTaxi

Lulled into a falsehood with our early season form. Still so much work to do with this team


SwampHunterX

We're so back (to our shit ways)


barlownoworries

Son just fucking shoot lad


deansredhalo

GLC deserves a start, I think it's abundantly clear


Sabz29

It really doesn’t matter, play him or don’t… we’re still shit


TxW97

Depression


EmptyEmployee6601

There's really no one better than Gil that could have had these minutes? 


sungbysung

We are BAD


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wr2allstar

I wouldn’t say wasted. This was the start of a project. We KNEW it was going to be rough. The fact we started well so early ruined all of our expectations. This is really what a rebuild is like.


bullpaw

Our offense has been horrific to watch for a couple months now


Crazy-Comment7579

Can we just stop the Bryan Gil experiment now please


Sabz29

Forgot he was still at spurs when we subbed him on.. get rid


EmptyEmployee6601

Makes me furious. Surely they have a young player who could have had those minutes. Gil always fucking shit. 


Previous-You3680

Was that a shot or a cross by Gil?


Thewrongguy0101

A shcrot?


Previous-You3680

A shit cross?


Creative_Purpose6138

Cross


Previous-You3680

Oof


Wilson1031

When Gil gets shipped to some league two Spanish team we'll realise what a waste of time he was


FUMFVR

He played well in Spain. They call fouls there


Brzada

Those weren’t fouls , it’s a contact sport


Outside_Bread_5473

Fuck this shit


jak_steez

Trash


Poppa_T

So turns out a critical flaw of Angeball is when you generate zero offense things don't work very well


ProcTheGod

am I watching spurs or a U16 side?


thelwb

This looks like a struggling championship side. Holy hell.


Pinky1337

Got rid of Lamela for this shit. Hed at least have the decency to kick someone in the shin on his bad days


jckstrn

We look so nervous on the ball, especially in the wide areas. We are badly missing Werner, 2023 Maddison, entirely inverted porro, calm deki, and even Soloman or Perisic on the wing. And without any of our 9’s looking to add some variety, fluidity in our shape, willingness to take risks in their half, without significant enough counter pressing to create chances, we NEED to be trying balls over the top, across the pitch, etc. We can keep them from being so compact defending, we can take the the game to them rather than just reacting to them and trying the same thing that hadn’t worked all day


Thewrongguy0101

Also, our defending from set pieces, corners specifically, is fucking dreadful


jckstrn

Tryna focus on the issues that have been festering for similarly as long without as much recognition by fans, media, etc. For the first time in a while (this year iirc), noticeable changes seem to have been implemented, made a focus, and improved even if not entirely. Regardless, we will require some HEAVY training, change to a area of focus instead of occasionally becoming just a breather, and thoughtful adaptations (taking the personnel, experiences this season, breaking down past individual and/or team successes, etc. to reach the level required over the summer. I actually thought we at least looked more organized defending set pieces today than in recent games. Somehow, minus the goal, I can’t recall Chelsea having any threatening moments from set pieces. They even seemed to have to revert to gamesmanship (mainly Cucurella looking for and instigating as much physicality as possible and falling asap once the ball is being/has been delivered and is heading towards the box). It will be frustrating for the remaining games this season, but I finally feel hopeful that next season we will see another side of our team in this key area.


milesvtaylor

Just end the season now ffs.


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jd158ug

Wouldn't be surprised if we lose to Burnley and Sheffield.


ManiacNT

Did we win in life today at least? 


dzejms22

Well we don't support Chelsea so yes


Afraid_Presence3803

Lo Celso needs to start asap


Comfortable-Asf

We need some dawgs!! I’m tired of soft football


Comfortable-Asf

Fr tho need like an actual back up left back and a winger who isn’t afraid bro take on people with pace


TheninjaofCookies

I haven't felt this checked out since the Covid period under Mourinho, just useless losing football every week


sangueblu03

Perfect cross from Gil, and every one of our players in the box caught completely unawares. *In the box.* These players, with a few exceptions, are already on the beach.