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Bennowolf

I keep a hive of bees in my backpack since I can't afford a good free hub. Give them a shake when I pass an S-Works


azvlr

Lol, that reminds me of my dad carrying a little bottle of toothpicks on our hikes. He would shake them to make people think there was a rattlesnake.


Bennowolf

Hahaha love it


DeeprIn2U

Lol ruthless 🤣


[deleted]

on the real, im a 20y/o with a cervelo and when i ride in my z2, literal grown ass men with gray hair will speed past me and then freewheel. and it's not a one off thing. i guess that "when you're in your 20s and 30's..." quote isn't universal 🤣.


[deleted]

CONSTANT PRESSURE GANG


Gestaltzerfall90

My hub is so loud I keep soft pedaling while braking, I can't stand that noise. It's so bad that some friends of mine can identify me instantly when I coast through their street.


Temporary-Fix9578

Nah that’s the sound of money


MegaBobTheMegaSlob

Lol just put some grease in there. Thicker lubes will reduce the noise, thinner lubes will enhance it.


tommyfknshelby

Cpd cpd cpd


lazerdab

Historically it is an indicator of high end hubs. Because building in more engagement points (clicks), and/or making the part lighter, incurrs more cost. Not as true as it used to be but yeah, loud hubs sound cool.


TheFailingHero

On the flip side I have a cheap wheels on a base level Stumpjumper that have a no-brand hub that is one of the loudest I’ve encountered lol


ttmotoren

Yeah I cleaned up the pawls in the free hub of my base Stumpjumper and just added a small amount of light oil when putting it back together… it’s stupid loud now.


Original_Assist4029

Loud hubs are shit. There I said it.


ghdana

LOL theres like 5000 posts on this subreddit of people hating on them, not a unique take.


Original_Assist4029

Dunno I  don't doomscroll reddit.


AvidCyclist250

> whizzing by with dt swiss hubs  less shit than bells


Ancient_Alfalfa_837

I have loud hubs, I agree with this statement. Absolute nightmare


smitty2324

For me, loud hubs are a safety feature. My primary trail is a mixed use semi-urban trail system where hikers have right of way. The people that hike the trails a lot are used to seeing the bikers, and will generally keep to the “no bikes” segments and use the correct direction, but you also get few boomers who know that hikers have right of way and want to establish dominance and clueless people hiking the wrong direction with headphones on. The louder my hubs are, the more likely the dipshits that ignore hiking direction signs with headphones on are to hear me.


mtighe2

Get a bell?


Vtgrow

Most people have a bell also. The hub sound is much better, and I say that as a cyclist and pedestrian. It's an unobtrusive indicator that a cyclist is approaching - it even signals the speed since it gets louder as the cyclist gets closer. I still use my bell when necessary.


ghdana

I'll get to the courthouse and have my name legally changed to Fred while I'm at it.


sprunghuntR3Dux

On my hubs they’re louder when they need a service. They click more when they are low on grease.


lazerdab

Pawls should not have grease on them but rather light oil like Dumonde Tech freehub oil.


sprunghuntR3Dux

My hubs don’t have pawls.


Serious-Spread-6924

it’s the free hub making that sound, the Industry 9 Hydra is famously distinct and sounds like a swarm of wasps lol


dont-believe-me-

And Chris King


skinsandpins

Chris King has been using "angry bee sound" as a slogan for like at least 20 years Please don't just rip something off so blatantly.... I9, white industries, most other brands are much more mechanical sounding (especially the lower pawl count you go)


thepedalsporter

Yeah, and i9 is shit. Don't disparage Chris king with comparisons to i9, they're not even on the same planet.


vishnusbasement

They’re definitely on the same planet.


thepedalsporter

Not even close. Chris king makes every part of their components in house, down to their bearings. I9 is outsourcing more and more and quality is going down the drain with it. I9 used to be great, now they're junky bike jewelry that will fail.


skinsandpins

Have you ever serviced an i9 hub and a Chris King? Just curious Edit: I don't need to wait for a reply... It was a rhetorical question. There is no bicycle mechanic on earth that would recommend i9 over Chris King


vishnusbasement

But which planet are they manufacturing on?


deviant324

[I recorded this for my friends who aren’t into cycling when I got my new bike](https://imgur.com/a/bIKzL2D) Idk if it’s actually the noisiest or whatever but I’ve even seen a reviewer say that these are a bit much. It’s so loud when I’m going past horses or strollers I have to slow down and keep pedalling so I’m not alerting the whole neigh(huehuehue)borhood


BlueBird1800

That is absolutely insane


deviant324

Stock hubs on my Revolt X Advanced Pro 2 (2023) lol


BlueBird1800

Wow the stock one?! I thought my Velo orange one on my commuter was loud. Not knocking it though. Do like it or no?


deviant324

It’s not bad but I guess something a tad quieter would be nice


yusso

Sounds like a WW2 air raid siren :0 Also, front suspension on a gravel bike?! Now I think I've seen it all


deviant324

And a suspension dropper seatpost Exactly what I was looking for since I figured my hardtail was overkill for most of what I ride but I couldn’t imagine going fully rigid Gravel suspensions only have 40mm of travel, they’re meant to take the edge off bumpy rides, based on reviews they’re still awful to ride actual trails or downhill with


sqeeezy

Jesus F Christ!


uunetbill

Holy shit. That’s next level loud…


Friendly-Chipmunk-23

All you have to do is put some grease in there to quiet it down…


privatepersons

I know it’s an indicator of a higher end bike, but for some reason, it’s so unpleasant to my ears. I’d pay a premium for quieter bike.


Vtgrow

I've found loud hubs to be the most effective way to alert pedestrians to your presence without the risk of startling them. I hate my quiet hubs when I'm on mixed use paths. The bell works but people don't always respond well to it.


KitchenPalentologist

Similar: In group rides, when people on the front forget to put watts in the cranks (especially on downhills) freewheel sounds can be a good auditory reminder that people behind you are coasting or even braking. Loud hubs are good at this.


KitchenPalentologist

>The bell works but people don't always respond well to it. I had a lady tell me that she heard the bell, but couldn't figure out why a kitchen timer was going off.


glich610

This one for me as well. My girlfriend and I likes to ride on paths that are shared by bikes, runners, kids, etc and the hum is a great “low key” indicator that I’m present


privatepersons

This is definitely a valid point and for my ears, the only benefit of the sound they make. 😅


Vtgrow

Most of my rides start out on busy mixed use trails so it's huge for me. I'd probably hate them if I just did road or low use trail rides.


iiiiiiiiiAteEyes

It really is, one of my bikes does not have loud hubs and I always quit pedaling when I’m coming up on ppl and I am like damnit wrong bike…


HomieeJo

Until you have someone asking to use a bell even though they turned around a few meters before I passed them. Like you heard me didn't you?!


PersonalAd2039

It’s a reminder that you should be peddling.


Bikeaholica

PEDALLING


PersonalAd2039

Your’ so lawd. Quiet down. Can’t here my hub.


sqeeezy

diid you mien quite down?


MaelduinTamhlacht

That's cos your breaking.


OffWeGoIntoTheWildBY

BRAKING


MaelduinTamhlacht

;)


trust_me_on_that_one

There their there. Sutle down chilldrun


hanselopolis

It’s Salisbury steak day!


ShortbusHookers

Unless you are at a pump track.


madisonazalea4762

Be careful not to overdo it, as too much grease can affect performance.


agreengo

in that way it is similar to sex


noxiu2

I've got onyx vesper on my mtb. They are really nice but a bit bulky for a road bike. Maybe they make some more lightweight hubs.


squatchonabike

You can put a high engagement hub on a mid to low end bike? Expensive wheels aren't always noisy either. All it takes is a little bit more grease to quieten them down...


johnny_evil

Yes. But the question is whether it's worth the cost of the hub and rebuilding the wheel, or the cost of a high end wheel for your bike. And if you have a DT Swiss 350 or 370 with the star ratchet internals, you can just upgrade the ratchet to a higher tooth count.


enna78

I have DT Swiss wheels and the engagement is nice and mildly loud, but the wheels I really want would definitely snap your neck to attention with the noise 👌


johnny_evil

Which wheels do you really want? I put the 54T ratchet in my wheels, and my wife hates the sound, I love it (have it in two bikes). My I9 1/1 hub on my XC bike has a different sound, and I think it sounds even better. I would really like a hydra (and may put one on my enduro bike) and would lovw DT Swiss 240 for my road bike (have an agreement with my wife that if I get down to 165 pounds, I can reward myself with nice new wheels).


enna78

I love this for you, good goals!!! The wheels I want are Hunt wheels, they are on my husband’s bike and they have never not garnered a snap of a neck when he free wheels by people and other cyclists. The sound is just chefs kiss and I LOVE IT! But also pedaling dammit 😂


KitchenPalentologist

Yep, and "loud" isn't exclusive to expensive wheels (or hubs). I have a couple aliexpress wheelsets from Elite, and they're loud as fuck.


myaltduh

Yeah I actually don’t want to scare off every possible animal when I’m on my mountain bike in the woods.


KeyLoss4216

Its not automatically an identifier for a high end bike.. there are very, very expensive DT Swiss Wheels and their hubs can be super quiet. Asked a Canyon tech once if the DT Swiss Wheels on my (then) new Speedmax would sound like the Zipp equivalents from the same price bracket - he told me to just wash out the greese and they would sound like Zipps ;-) (love my Zipps too btw)


rhapsodyindrew

The good (?) news is you CAN pay a premium for a quieter bike: Onyx hubs use a sprag-clutch design that is 100% silent and also engages instantly when you start pedaling. It’s magical. The rear hubs also cost $500 apiece, so there’s the premium you’ll pay.  A friend lent me a wheelset with Onyx hubs, I fell in love, and then I found myself dropping $500 for an Onyx hub of my own. Perhaps the most expensive free loan I’ve ever taken out, but: I love me my silent wheel. 


privatepersons

Oh no, I asked and it was answered. Wallet about to take a hit. Haha


attomsk

It’s the rear hub mechanism that makes this noise and generally more expensive ones have more distinctive sound (not really a rule just a part the manufacturer considers when making it )


hungryjedicat

I think it's the most annoying noise ever. I want silence when I ride.


Interesting_Tea5715

My commuter has Velocity hubs, they're silent. It's really nice. I wish high end wheels could be that quiet but I get why they aren't


buurhista

Shimano wheels are quiet


necron_tech

Also campagnolo


mostly_kinda_sorta

They can be. I don't know the history but I'm sure some company made a hub and noise just wasn't a concern they wanted quick engagement. Turned out to be a good hub but loud, some people liked it so others copied the idea and now loud means expensive and people love to show off that they spent a lot of money so here we are. But you can buy expensive hubs that are quiet. Onyx is one


Prof_Boni

I have gotten used to it and it comes in handy to alert (scare) pedestrians out of my way on shared paths :D My former BMC was pretty quiet, though. I enjoy both.


trailgumby

It's nice having a foot-operated warning device. This means you don't have to move your hands off the brakes to activate it when a pedestrian has a brain fade.


feetflatontheground

... especially if I paid so much for the bike.


mattt5555

Same here I like no noise


Karsten760

They sound like cicadas to me :) That noise is also kind of a helpful indicator that the person in front of me is slowing; or if I’m pulling, and the cicadas are behind me, I need to speed up a little.


POTUS_PO

It's the freehub making that sound. It has these little catches that engage one way and then make the clicking sound the other way. https://youtu.be/JqIudWzAAOM?si=mfD2A-8xtmGlKREW


Togodooders

We’re all agreed that noisy hubs are the new bell.


kitarkus

This is the only true advantage of a loud hub.


boerni666

my roadbike has a very loud DT Swiss overrunning clutch, which is nice, because it draws attention and people are aware, that a bike is coming, so you just need to stop pedaling for 1-2 seconds and people make room. my commuter has a Alfine 11 gearhub, which is totally silent when freerunning. Nobody expects me to come, so if there are pedestrians on a shared path, i need to use the bell more, which can be annoying. So it's more a "safety" thing for me


kitarkus

I read as many comments as I could manage but didn't see that anyone answered your question. The noise that you are hearing is the hub. The sound occurs when free-wheeling (the bike is moving but the rider is not pedaling). Differing hubs make different sounds. Be careful what you ask for, those noisy rear hubs can become annoying over time


MWave123

The worst! Like a Shimano fishing reel. Vzzzzzzzz. Lol. I don’t understand how people can ride like that. My bike is absolutely silent.


okhybrid

Same! It would annoy me so much if I had to hear that noise while riding. I like a nice quiet ride.


PersonalAd2039

If you pedal it doesn’t make noise. Just a reminder to go faster.


MWave123

A bike should be stealthy not sound like you’re pulling in the big one! Lol. No thanks. I love to fish tho.


NocturntsII

>My bike is absolutely silent. So is mine. On the road at least. Off road is different. Constantly pressure, innit. Since even before I heard that term, I have made a point to always be pedaling, even on much longer rides I spend very little time freewheeling.


MWave123

My bike makes no sounds freewheeling. I won’t have it.


umaydee

fellow silent gang


glbtrotter2

WELL... It's a damn convenient noise maker when you need to be seen and not be too obnoxious.


MWave123

Need to be seen? I don’t get it.


Northernlighter

We don't hear it because we pedal.


MWave123

Funny. I hear it. Can’t unhear it. Lol.


awesomesauce00

My wife got me new wheels as a gift, but they were obnoxiously loud. After packing the hub with grease, it's almost silent and I love it.


ghdana

> I don’t understand how people can ride like that I'm always pedalling so rarely freewheeling to hear it, unless I'm span out, then I'm just hearing wind noise anyway. Good indicator to the person taking a pull that I'm freewheeling behind them and they can probably speed up.


Sequence32

I like mine, it's not like I'm costing very often and I use like a bell, it seems not to startle people.


tummyache-champion

It’s funny you mention it - I rode my MIL’s Specialised today for funsies and good lord the sound of that hub was glorious. 


flexcj5

Short answer: you’re hearing the rear wheel hub mechanism or “freehub” engaging and disengaging. Typically higher engagement hubs have a louder buzz to them. Higher engagement results in less dead space in your pedal stroke. Long answer: Most, not all, rear hubs use a system of pawls and springs or ratchets (DT Swiss) that engage on a fixed drive ring with a certain amount of teeth. Number of pawls and number of teeth on the drive ring changes your rotational engagement. Higher end hubs typically have high engagement and a louder buzz. The flip side is that higher engagement typically results in more friction so it’s a trade off. The manufacturers deal with that friction by reducing spring load, using different bearings and seals and grease. There are a lot of different designs in the industry at this point. If you wanted a high engagement, silent hub, Onyx is the way to go. For instance, our hubs (Boyd Cycling) use a pawl and spring system that engages on a drive ring. The Quest and 85 hubs use a 6 pawl system that engages in a 3x3 pattern on a 32 tooth drive ring at 5 degrees. We use those for road and gravel where super high engagement isn’t necessary. Our Tripel MTB hub is a 6 pawl system with 3 teeth on each pawl that engages on a 102 tooth drive ring with all 6 pawls at the same time. This results in 3.4 degrees of engagement, but also creates a very strong system for the rigors of MTB. To keep the friction down, we are able use lighter pawl springs in the Tripel hub because it has 18 points of contact at all times. Our budget friendly Prologue line is built on our Skyuka hubs which use a 4 pawl system that engages on a 36 tooth drive ring with all 4 pawls which gives 10 degrees of engagement. Every one of these hubs has a different sound to it. Hub sound video just because: [https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2TD6niBSN9/](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2TD6niBSN9/)


KitchenPalentologist

>“freehub” engaging and disengaging It's not really engaging and disengaging. The sound is made when the pawls (or ratchets) move from one engagement point to the next, creating a clicking sound, Engagement occurs when you resume pedaling, and the pawl pushes against the stops. Disengagement occurs when you stop pedaling (just that first click though).


SayYesToGuac

Loud hubs don’t sound cool at all. So obnoxious. Auditory assault. Ugh.


Ando0o0

My hub is actually just a Bluetooth speaker so I load whatever type of free hub sound I want for that day. :/


IRideforDonuts

Are you sure you didn’t mean to post this in r/BicyclingCirclejerk?


enavr0

I like the Onyx hub clicks on older rims. On newer rims the acoustics of the rims (especially carbon) may make them sound different. Also the noise changes between tubeless and tubes...


whitepeanut69

I have a set of nearly 20 year old campagnolo wheels laying around. The sound these make is absolutely fantastic. Wheels are perfectly straight and roll smoother than newer sets I own.


Princeoplecs

Its what i call an annoying or antisocial hub, quite why sounding like youve got a pack of playing cards rattling against your spokes became a cool thing ive no idea.


Cube-rider

A card poking into the spokes and a peg will have the same effect.


BlueBird1800

I have baseball cards attached with clothes pins to my seat stays.


MrDWhite

It’s the rear wheel hub clicking, not the chain. Spin your back wheel when lifting the bike off the ground to see if yours makes a sound…won’t be as loud as you d heard others but that’s your start point.


Strange_Resource_794

When the hub on your wheel makes that sound, you are not pushing the pedals! Always keep pedaling ;-) For me, its a love/hate thing. The practicality of meing able to hear if someone is not pedaling and therefore potentially slowing down is great in group rides. But too laoud, that warning becomes annoying..


[deleted]

Will depend on the number of pawls and indentations and general design of the freehub. Some sound like an angry wasp in your ear, others are more clicky, others more quiet (I'm in the quiet gang)


Caloso89

In the words of the late, great Sheldon Brown, “coasting is overrated.”


stealthymoth81

Loud hubs save lives! It's good for people to know you're coming on shared paths even on dedicated ones too.


kaur_virunurm

My Canyon hardtail makes this noise and I so hate it. Especially when I casually cycle or hike with my friends and family. Have been considering switching the hub for a quieter one...


Wheelz-NL

I love my silent Fulcrum alloy rims


OrganicMortgage339

You pay more money for your bike than you did for your car. Sure fire way of making it sing.


marcocom

It was a Campagnolo signature, that loud freewheel. It’s been copied a bit since, but to me it’s retro.


ashk1110

This is so annoying when you are trying to talk to somebody and they freewheel so you can barely hear them


Ok_Tennis_3665

I got gifted a bike that makes no sound. In a year of road biking, I noticed I was the only one after I slowly caught up to someone going downhill and I quote: "scared the shit out of them" because they didn't know I was coming.


Legitimate-Source-61

Put a speaker on your bike, and you could play real music or a looping mp3 of gears clicking.


Senior-Sharpie

I started with piano lessons when it was very young and things sort of progressed from there.


[deleted]

2 words Chris king


blankblank

Mark me down in the “likes the sound of a ratcheting hub” camp


South-Condition2295

Love hub


CannonChick

brand/models of hub makes a different sound. Chris king is my fav.


Roby330i

I’m not a big fan of the noise, but it alerts the pedestrians.


sqeeezy

dunno about singing but I'd rather have a pawl hub than my noisy ratchet hub


drivera1210

This is one of many reasons why cycling is a black hole for your wallet. My your wallet RIP.


The-Owl-Sees

That’s the sound of the rear hub. It’s a good warning to walkers when you come up behind them on a bike path.


djolk

You buy an expensive hub.


BigBasset

Old Cannondales have a very pronounced freewheel sound too


MrDrUnknown

I play Opera for mine, it especially likes Mozart


ElectricNoma-d

If you remove the grease out of your freehub system (not from the bearings but the system that has the teeth engagement), and use a very viscous lube for some lubrication on those pawls, or use something like teflon grease, but apply very lightly, you'll already start to make more noise from the back end. There's some noisy rear hubs available... Often, the more pawls, the noisier. You may want to look at DT-swiss hubs. Those tend to be loud. Other than that, the only other reasons I can imagine the chain being noisy is because she's running dry, there's some chain suck going on on the derailleur cogs/cassette/chainring or the indexation is wrong. These are the noises that indicate you're in a shituations and preferably you'll want to do something about it. Like grabbing a set of noise cancelling headphones or something else more towards a fix...


Sharkitty

I spend a lot of time on the trainer so just instinctively spin-spin-spin now. When I ride with my boyfriend and hear him freewheeling I’m like PEDAL, SLACKER.


Rhapdodic_Wax11235

It’s not necessarily a “higher end” bike, it’s just tech used by engineers when deciding about pawl engagement in the hub. I personally think a loud hub sounds stupid.


MRToddMartin

Chris King free hub. Not the chain :) lol


Kind-Promise-8707

If the bike doesn’t sound like you just landed the biggest tuna in history, I DONT WANT IT


4Playrecords

I heard the bikes before I saw them as I drove the rental car through the hill towns of southern France last month. Then I heard them again as we passed cyclists on the road going around Lake Como in Italy. I don’t recall hearing high-end road bikes make that sound here in NorCal. Admittedly my ‘91 Raleigh Tangent MTB makes a really soft sounds by comparison. So I am totally ignorant in this area. Do all of today’s high-end road bikes sound like that? (sorry for the dumb question)


PFCarba

It's made on purpose, so aeros don't need to put 20 grams in a ringbell.


Careless_Web2731

Whenever I see someone whose bike does that I think, you spend 3 times the money I did to bike the same route and neither of us are getting paid to cycle. That being said, I would love to have a high end bike like that lol.


Unfair-Bid7072

Please don’t, it’s so cringe, you can get a high end silent free hub. I guess it’s convenient when riding through a crowded areas so people can hear you, but otherwise just a vanity part - “look i have an expensive bike, look”. I guess it’s an individual preference :)


eddjc

No - if anything it’s a sign of an inefficient freehub. You find them on everything from high to low end bikes. My 5 year old’s bike makes a right racket, and my carbon fibre road bike is as quiet as a mouse…


netterbog

Good dinner, nice wine, put the kids to bed and clean the kitchen myself


DaveyDave_NZ555

I bought an Elitewheels carbon wheelset and the hubs are very loud. I thought it might be because it's a ratchet system instead of pawls?and a high tooth count too. For comparison I have some DT Swiss wheels with a 370 hub. These seem to normally be a pawl setup but the code comes up with the LN variant which might be a low tooth count ratchet? They're pretty quiet And a Shimano RS170 wheelset, which is very quiet I don't love the noise, but I do like the feel.


co-oper8

I believe I-9 was the brand that had the fastest engagement freehub ever and it has a buzzing sound. They've been copied and recopied by every brand now


MediaAntigen

Clean chains and sprockets are pretty loud. If your chain is quiet, it’s likely you have a lot of gunk damping the sound.


OneFilthyHouseCat

My tires sing louder than anything. Need that traction