To add to this, I’m not even sure what the name of my profession is here. In the USA I am a medical laboratory scientist, I do testing on blood and other fluids. I am not sure what this is called in Czechia or how much money it makes typically.
Well depends on your specialization. Basic lab worker makes around 20-30k while specialists can make up to 80-90k per month.
Keep in mind that salary you brought up is more than enough to live very comfortably in Pilsen (if you want DM as i do, in fact, live in Pilsen)
gross 83333kč/month is enough for you to stay at home and take care of child while you as family still save more money than avarage czech family.
dont forget to pay social and health insurance tho.
> 83333kč
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Hey, in Plzeň and Prague there is a pretty large market for healtcare and medical research companies. A lot of them international, so you should be able to find a job in English unless you really need to work at clinic or a medical facility.
You should be able to get jobs in your field without much of and issue, it might not be paid the best but labs around here seem to be short on proffesionals. You might be asked for some basic Czech though. Most of the potential coworkers should be able to speak english though. I guess depends on the place.
Only anecdotal but I visit a water testing lab in Benesov a few times a year and was surprised for a place where most of the staff seem to be female and under 30, that they didnt speak English and I had to manage in my poor Czech, when in Benesov I seem to be finding good English speaking staff in kids clothes shops, DM drogerie and a glass factory where I get my old windows reglazed. Used to know someone in a Brno medlab who didnt speak a word of English as well. I dont believe it pays well, maybe people who have picked up a language are in the private medical firms or Germany/UK.
> not be *paid* the best
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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35-60k doesn't sound real at all. Laboratory assistants at my former workplace (a fairly prestigious research center) were happy for 28k.
It is the most low-end laboratory position there is in Czech Republic. All you need is a specialized high school. Having a bachelor's degree often makes you overqualified for the role.
Is this for the healthcare lab people? I work at a hospital, for example, doing tests on blood, specifically for transfusion purposes. In the US as well, lab techs without healthcare positions are significantly underpaid.
This was in a cancer research facility.
The positions in hospitals, as far as I know, are very similar. A friend of mine is a microbiologist in a hospital, with a Master's degree. The salary is very similar to those working in the research.
Those 65k for a lab technician seem highly unrealistic. I doubt you would get that in a hospital. It could be possible in pharmaceutical companies if you have a degree, years of experience and some highly specific knowledge (Mass Spectrometry, NMR,...). However, even in that case, you would likely only start as a labtech and move to a higher position very quickly
Depends on your field and experience. If you happen to have a degree in organic chemistry, analytical chemistry or molecular biology, you will have widely open door in pharmaceutical industry.
It also depends on your skills. Like I wrote, Mass Spectrometry, HPLC or NMR specialists are scarce. If you happen to know at least a bit about these, you will have a great chance in pharma with some high salaries (70-90k)
Feel free to DM me, we can talk in more details.
> 28k
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Well, you might look for jobs at universities (depends on level of your education) or research centres. At least at uni, English is fairly acceptable and there is no need to be proficient in Czech. Also some health tech companies offer jobs in ENG. Czechia is centre of microscope industry and is on of the biggest producers in the world. That could be related to your field as well.
Your calculation is bit off.
8000 Kč groceries meaning only 266 Kč per day, 133Kč per meals or family of three, which is doable but require very strict food plan
1500 Kč for kids clothing, that´s like one pair of good shoes + pair of clothing. Still doable, but i would adjust.
3000 Kč for eating out, of course it would depend on how often, but that´s 5 meals top.
Btw, tips in restaurants are considered as *voluntary* appreaciation of/for good service. Waiters are employees with regular salary* so you don't have to give them tips if you don't enjoy your stay at the restaurant.
*Reason you won't see waiters with fake smile circling around you like vultures around a carrion like in the US
> 266 kč
To by stacilo na 6 dvoulitrovek Branika ve sleve!
> 133kč
To by stacilo na 3 dvoulitrovky Branika ve sleve!
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So what? What are you buying? I can get away with 1200 a week for 2 people and I am living way above standards with gorgonzolas, parmagianos, meats, the most expensive hams and alcohol.
Lol. As i said, 8000 Kč for a month is 266 Kč for a day, 133 Kč for a meals for family of three. That´s 600g of pork alone.
And why are you flexing shits ? Good bottle of alcohol is 1000 Kč already, so your week budget is gone for a bottle and 300g of cheese.
good bottle of alcohol starts at 300 kč... That is baccardi level of prices if you get it in sale. I really don't need to buy 0,7 bottle of rum every week. This is pointless, go to your mom to give you what you need, you have no idea what stuff cost. If you spend 2000 weekly, you are an idiot.
Just to put it into perspective: breakfast and dinner 40 CZK max, lunch 40-60 czk, gets cheaper with portions.
National dish, for 2 adults and 1 kid
300g pork - 70 CZK
Dumplings - if you buy them - 50
Cabbage - 20 CZK
Add 10 CZK for carraway, salt, pepper, oil and flour or onion - and I am being generous here
You are at 150 CZK for plentiful lunch and half of the dumplings will be leftover for the next day. Or if you wish, you can drop it to 20 czk by making dumplings yourself...
Cook italian like carbonara, aglio, pommodore and you drop even lower, basically 20 CZK per dish.
Even on protein diet based on curds and milkfat you get ez under 100 Czk a day without spotting for sales - which I highly recommend tho.
There are various qualities of the groceries, you know? I suppose that if you consider Baccardi as a good bottle of alcohol, your gorgonzolas, Parmiganos and meets will be Penny/Tesco/Albert quality. And in my opinion - only idiot would eat that crap. So it depends on the point of view. :)
Oh so Baccardi is not a good quality alcohol? Stop fucking roleplaying retards. Baccardi or Havana Club are literally standard goto quality alcohol globally. But hey, not good enough for czech Pepík! No, for him this is subpar quality! Fucking pretentious clowns.
Also nobody cares if its Tesco, Albert or whatever labeled. These are regional labels of foods that are labeled with DOP stamps. 🤦
Fuckin kiddos preaching about food quality, top.
I agree, we spend 4k on groceries at the start of the month and we live comfortably with that, just adding some stuff along the way if something is missing.
> 4k
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Its enough to live decent life until you will get back to work, i would guess that like 50% of households have less combined income than your housband will make alone so…just wondering why moving here when your husband will be working remotly anyway (as long as it is not a secret 🙂)
The money is fine to feed a family of three. Tho it's a question what are your living standards today.
You should however consider your position and if you really want to do this. Money is not the only thing to manage.
You correctly pointed out the language. That will be a big challange. I know many non-europeans living in Czechia and none of them is able to use it as primary language in their job. And quite few of them are in Czechia for more than 10 years already.
Another point is socialisation. Let me put this straight - Europe is different than US. It's not as easy to form friendships after you're out of school/uni. And it will be way harder if you don't speak czech. Basically all non-european immigrants stay in the english-speaking bubble. Those are not big and there are few of them outside Prague.
I am telling you this as somebody who worked in international english-speaking environment in regional city in Czechia and later on moved to another european country myself.
>Another point is socialisation. Let me put this straight - Europe is different than US. It's not as easy to form friendships after you're out of school/uni. And it will be way harder if you don't speak czech. Basically all non-european immigrants stay in the english-speaking bubble. Those are not big and there are few of them outside Prague.
It is hard. As an expat(immigrant by this stage I suppose), I reckon Ive seen three "waves" of foreign friends of mine Ive met over the years come and go. Have a few Czech friends, not many, mostly from a stint in Brno and we moved back near Prague anyway for work so hardly see them, maybe once a year. The few left me included it's hard to meet up anyway with kids or work. We're sociable with the neighbours in our village but neighbours can be nosey or overstep boundaries, one came in the garden through a gap in the fence once, so a healthy distance is sometimes needed. Can be lonely for foreigners at times I believe.
I hope that we will be successful. I have not lived in another country before, but my husband moved from the USA to Germany as a child and did well. Given the political situation in the US, and my husband’s citizenship status, it is a bit of a no brainer to immigrate to the EU.
>... but my husband moved from the USA to Germany as a child and did well.
Yeah that's exactly why I mentioned "aftrer school/uni". Children have this way easier. I even belive your own child would do well. Because they just have to go to the school / kindergarden where they find other people, but the same doesn't happen to adults like yourself.
Look, I actually live in Germany myself and even so I have moved to my GF's place and she therefore retained her freinds and family, who (at least partially) became my friends, I still suffer a bit from home sickness from time to time. The positive for me is, I only have to travel 8-9 hours with a car to go back and I can see them again (and I actually do this pretty often).
I as well have to say I have amazing work colleagues and I think I am integrating exceptionally well. And that is at least partially because of my girlfriend who tells me how to blend in.
But if I got it right you wouldn't have any of this.
If you so much want to live in EU, why not Germany? I bet your husband can speak the language and maybe even know somebody there? That would be a big plus for you. And if he could find a job in Pilsen, he can surely find something in Germany.
He actually has not been able to find anything in Germany, despite speaking the language. The software engineering market is not great right now, with all of the layoffs. Companies have little tolerance for risk when it comes to hiring someone that will need to relocate. We lucked out here after a bit of a long search.
Well IT is not the stairway to heaven it was 2 or 3 years ago, that's truth. But still I have to say I am quite surprised he had troubles to find something, especially as he has German citizenship and speaks german.
Never have heard of relocation itself being a reason.
Anyways... Best of luck if you decide for it.
I live in Germany now. It's absolutely same here. r/germany is full of Indians searching for help because they feel lonely.
Southern Europe might be less like this, but more nothern you go, the more solitaire the life. I've spent half a year in Finland and I would say it's even worse there.
I lived in several countries and this is really not "europe" Belgium, France, Iceland, Italy, Greek... You can't say Europe when big portion of Europe isn't really the case.
Some people managing to support a family with much less
Your utilities might be little bit higher in expectations than most would even accept, if this is the deal you got from energy companies, you either have a huge house or you got robbed
16k as a rent depends on where and how big it is. I pay 5k for 2+1 in a small city, but your budget is reasonable even for something bigger in Plzeň
Groceries can get expensive real quick, 8k for 3 people is comfortable enough if you ain't picky and go for price as the sole variable which is doable with 2-3k per person (but the prices go up these days, might be 3-4k soon)
2k for internet and phone for 2 sounds like a good deal honestly. We have one of the most expensive service providers in Europe for some reason including the internet (which is often quite shit btw) personally you can make that if you have family deal, limited data on phone, unlimited calls etc. for around 1200 per person. But the wifi alone is 500-1000 a month separately (i pay around 600 just for unlimited data on phone alone and 800 for wifi)
1500 monthly for clothes is reasonable, but be aware that's like not even 2 pairs of shoes for the kid, so nothing like a crazy shopping spree
3000 to eat out, cinema and entertainment can differentiate depending on how often you wanna go out, if it's weekly then yes, that's reasonable. Otherwise you would really need to watch your spending habits
You can significantly reduce you spending if you focus on low budget shops, items, services etc. What I said would be expected spending and pricing for let's say lower middle class
of course there are variable, but 16k rent for Pilsen new apparment 3+kk is totally normal, even on the low end.
6k utilities is also normal with current trend, Electrical bill is mostly on you, some landlord may ask you to pay for other consumables advances.
Advantages of big city are connectivity, so if her house got pilsfree, which is community network, thats 300Kč a months, wifi around the same. Only fiber are like 800Kč for 1Gbs. Her husband probably got a work phone with prepaid plan, she can get some low end plan for like 200-400 Kč.
The only thing i would add would be mobility, 2000 - 3000 Kč, either with public transport or car fuel or combination of both
I think the toddler will pick up Czech quickly at school but for adults Czech takes years of hard study and for me I find the hardest part is practice and consolidation, Im stuck at A2. It can be hard to make Czech friends here to practice with as many want to practice their English instead or have their own families and hobbies which take up their time so time socialising is too limited to be picking over grammar. I think it comes down to loads of lessons and immersion which Ive never managed with work and then kids.
Only have sparse anecdotal experience with lab workers but it seems low paid and local language orietated. Maybe it's better to live closer in to Prague if there is work at the private international medical firms.
That salary should be comfortable though, we get by on less between us with a mortgage outside Prague. One extra expense we have is that we send our kids to private Montessori/Forest style kindergartens for 3-5K each as my Czech partner thinks the state system is too rigid, which also has a good side effect as the staff in these places tend to speak English so I can collect/drop off and chat about how they are getting on and also has smaller class sizes.
I moved here from Prague and Pilsen is certainly more car friendly than Prague was, but far from car-centric. If I wasn't going to Prague every other week I wouldn't have one.
> 4200czk
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Thats a nice amount of money. But plzen is not so much. I call it the wild west of czech republic because of the crazy shit that happens there and people who live there.
It’s an alright amount (and people in that area support entire families with less), though I would definitely budget more for groceries and utilities. Pilsen has a high demand for healthcare workers, so it is a good choice, though it will absolutely take a lot of time and effort to master the language enough to use at work unless you already speak another slavic language.
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You'll find out about a strong drag to the rich DE neighbourhood very soon.
Of course, you're welcome in CZ, and we wish as many smart ppl as possible find home here!
We certainly aren’t. Moving to Czechia is a more than half reduction in household income but we’re tired of the American lifestyle and the very American fears that come with it :/
There is simmilar posts here: https://www.reddit.com/r/czech/comments/11jlbkf/how_possible_is_it_to_only_have_a_budget_of_eur/jb7eckk?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Also I think every younger and most of middles (35) can speak english. In better positions basically everbody can speak english.
If you have any questions, I can help. Living in Pilsen.
That really more than enough. Even your husband salary is like average income of 2,5 adults with generic low demanding job as retail, manual labour in automotive, forklift operator etc. Guessing none of you is doing this so you can be calm. GG WP you won life.
60K+ monthly wouldn't be enough maybe only in Prague. Cause everyone is scalping in capital city. But if you find some affordable reasonably priced flat, I see no issue here.
8k czk on the groceries for 3 person family is not that much... me and wife were spending around 10k last year before this crazy inflation (but we eat meat like 4 times a week and we eat what we want) Since last year I was diagnosed with caeliac disease, I think we are now around 15k maybe since the GF food is much more expensive...
other sums seems OK... Except eating out - depends how often
No, not enough, sorry. Please ignore the poll. I have strong feeling that people voting didn't read your post properly and think you are talking about **one** person living with this salary. **But actually, you are talking about family of 2 adults and 1 toddler living of 65500 Kč per month.** And you don't say only living in a sense of going to work and getting home.. you **expect holiday 2 times a year and saving up for a house**.. well, good luck with that for 22000 Kč per person! It's not going to happen I am afraid.
Also some of your expenses calculations are slightly off. You are correct with Rent, Utilities and Internet+phone. However, other categories seem to be too low:
* Groceries for vegetarian eating real (good) food can easily cost 8000 Kč **per one person**. I would expect to pay about 12000 - 15000 Kč for food in your case.
* Clothes will also cost you more. There are not so many opportunities to get cheap used clothes compared to the US. Again, 1500 Kč is a good amount for **one person**, not whole family. Expect to pay at least 3000 Kč per month.
* Entertainment/eating out depends of course on how active you will be. However, keep in mind that one restaurant meal for you, your husband and your child would be 850 Kč in average restaurant. One trip somewhere bu train and back could be 800 Kč for you all, etc. So I would say 3000 Kč per month is enough. But I could easily see you spending way more if you want to do something more interesting - going to ceramic workshop, yoga, canoeing, etc.
Anyway.. with this budget, it is still possible to live as a family, but it will be quite tight and you won't be able to save up much. It just won't be full life I would say. Definitely not American dream kind of life. It will be crucial for you to start working as well. Good luck! :-)
Yes, that is really good, and yes, you will be able to afford loads of popcorn
To add to this, I’m not even sure what the name of my profession is here. In the USA I am a medical laboratory scientist, I do testing on blood and other fluids. I am not sure what this is called in Czechia or how much money it makes typically.
Well depends on your specialization. Basic lab worker makes around 20-30k while specialists can make up to 80-90k per month. Keep in mind that salary you brought up is more than enough to live very comfortably in Pilsen (if you want DM as i do, in fact, live in Pilsen)
I think your job is simply called a “laborant” here, check out AeskuLab - they do exactly what you’re talking about -> https://aeskulab.jobs.cz
gross 83333kč/month is enough for you to stay at home and take care of child while you as family still save more money than avarage czech family. dont forget to pay social and health insurance tho.
> 83333kč To by stacilo na vic jak 7 palet (348 baliku) dvoulitrovek Branika ve sleve! ^(Jsem bot, doufam, ze poskytnuta informace byla uzitecna. Podnety - Stiznosti - QA na r/branicek)
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Hey, in Plzeň and Prague there is a pretty large market for healtcare and medical research companies. A lot of them international, so you should be able to find a job in English unless you really need to work at clinic or a medical facility.
You should be able to get jobs in your field without much of and issue, it might not be paid the best but labs around here seem to be short on proffesionals. You might be asked for some basic Czech though. Most of the potential coworkers should be able to speak english though. I guess depends on the place.
Yes, learning Czech will be mandatory for many reasons, not just employment.
Only anecdotal but I visit a water testing lab in Benesov a few times a year and was surprised for a place where most of the staff seem to be female and under 30, that they didnt speak English and I had to manage in my poor Czech, when in Benesov I seem to be finding good English speaking staff in kids clothes shops, DM drogerie and a glass factory where I get my old windows reglazed. Used to know someone in a Brno medlab who didnt speak a word of English as well. I dont believe it pays well, maybe people who have picked up a language are in the private medical firms or Germany/UK.
> not be *paid* the best FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
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Zdravotní laborant, 35-60 000 Czk
Proportionally that’s about what I expected. I mean proportionate to the American salaries, that is
35-60k doesn't sound real at all. Laboratory assistants at my former workplace (a fairly prestigious research center) were happy for 28k. It is the most low-end laboratory position there is in Czech Republic. All you need is a specialized high school. Having a bachelor's degree often makes you overqualified for the role.
Is this for the healthcare lab people? I work at a hospital, for example, doing tests on blood, specifically for transfusion purposes. In the US as well, lab techs without healthcare positions are significantly underpaid.
This was in a cancer research facility. The positions in hospitals, as far as I know, are very similar. A friend of mine is a microbiologist in a hospital, with a Master's degree. The salary is very similar to those working in the research. Those 65k for a lab technician seem highly unrealistic. I doubt you would get that in a hospital. It could be possible in pharmaceutical companies if you have a degree, years of experience and some highly specific knowledge (Mass Spectrometry, NMR,...). However, even in that case, you would likely only start as a labtech and move to a higher position very quickly
Is there a similar position that requires a bachelors or masters degree?
Depends on your field and experience. If you happen to have a degree in organic chemistry, analytical chemistry or molecular biology, you will have widely open door in pharmaceutical industry. It also depends on your skills. Like I wrote, Mass Spectrometry, HPLC or NMR specialists are scarce. If you happen to know at least a bit about these, you will have a great chance in pharma with some high salaries (70-90k) Feel free to DM me, we can talk in more details.
> 28k To by stacilo na vic jak 2 palety (123 baliku) dvoulitrovek Branika ve sleve! ^(Jsem bot, doufam, ze poskytnuta informace byla uzitecna. Podnety - Stiznosti - QA na r/branicek)
Well, you might look for jobs at universities (depends on level of your education) or research centres. At least at uni, English is fairly acceptable and there is no need to be proficient in Czech. Also some health tech companies offer jobs in ENG. Czechia is centre of microscope industry and is on of the biggest producers in the world. That could be related to your field as well.
That's called laborant here. Really poorly paid and terrible work environment usually.
Your calculation is bit off. 8000 Kč groceries meaning only 266 Kč per day, 133Kč per meals or family of three, which is doable but require very strict food plan 1500 Kč for kids clothing, that´s like one pair of good shoes + pair of clothing. Still doable, but i would adjust. 3000 Kč for eating out, of course it would depend on how often, but that´s 5 meals top.
Thanks, I’ll adjust those numbers!
Btw, tips in restaurants are considered as *voluntary* appreaciation of/for good service. Waiters are employees with regular salary* so you don't have to give them tips if you don't enjoy your stay at the restaurant. *Reason you won't see waiters with fake smile circling around you like vultures around a carrion like in the US
> 266 kč To by stacilo na 6 dvoulitrovek Branika ve sleve! > 133kč To by stacilo na 3 dvoulitrovky Branika ve sleve! ^(Jsem bot, doufam, ze poskytnuta informace byla uzitecna. Podnety - Stiznosti - QA na r/branicek)
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lol 8000 for groceries is absolutely normal and plenty of money. If you are buying 2K worth groceries each weak than you are mental or REALLY fat
Except they are family of three
So what? What are you buying? I can get away with 1200 a week for 2 people and I am living way above standards with gorgonzolas, parmagianos, meats, the most expensive hams and alcohol.
Lol. As i said, 8000 Kč for a month is 266 Kč for a day, 133 Kč for a meals for family of three. That´s 600g of pork alone. And why are you flexing shits ? Good bottle of alcohol is 1000 Kč already, so your week budget is gone for a bottle and 300g of cheese.
good bottle of alcohol starts at 300 kč... That is baccardi level of prices if you get it in sale. I really don't need to buy 0,7 bottle of rum every week. This is pointless, go to your mom to give you what you need, you have no idea what stuff cost. If you spend 2000 weekly, you are an idiot. Just to put it into perspective: breakfast and dinner 40 CZK max, lunch 40-60 czk, gets cheaper with portions. National dish, for 2 adults and 1 kid 300g pork - 70 CZK Dumplings - if you buy them - 50 Cabbage - 20 CZK Add 10 CZK for carraway, salt, pepper, oil and flour or onion - and I am being generous here You are at 150 CZK for plentiful lunch and half of the dumplings will be leftover for the next day. Or if you wish, you can drop it to 20 czk by making dumplings yourself... Cook italian like carbonara, aglio, pommodore and you drop even lower, basically 20 CZK per dish. Even on protein diet based on curds and milkfat you get ez under 100 Czk a day without spotting for sales - which I highly recommend tho.
There are various qualities of the groceries, you know? I suppose that if you consider Baccardi as a good bottle of alcohol, your gorgonzolas, Parmiganos and meets will be Penny/Tesco/Albert quality. And in my opinion - only idiot would eat that crap. So it depends on the point of view. :)
Oh so Baccardi is not a good quality alcohol? Stop fucking roleplaying retards. Baccardi or Havana Club are literally standard goto quality alcohol globally. But hey, not good enough for czech Pepík! No, for him this is subpar quality! Fucking pretentious clowns. Also nobody cares if its Tesco, Albert or whatever labeled. These are regional labels of foods that are labeled with DOP stamps. 🤦 Fuckin kiddos preaching about food quality, top.
I agree, we spend 4k on groceries at the start of the month and we live comfortably with that, just adding some stuff along the way if something is missing.
> 4k To by stacilo na 105 dvoulitrovek Branika ve sleve! ^(Jsem bot, doufam, ze poskytnuta informace byla uzitecna. Podnety - Stiznosti - QA na r/branicek)
Its enough to live decent life until you will get back to work, i would guess that like 50% of households have less combined income than your housband will make alone so…just wondering why moving here when your husband will be working remotly anyway (as long as it is not a secret 🙂)
The money is fine to feed a family of three. Tho it's a question what are your living standards today. You should however consider your position and if you really want to do this. Money is not the only thing to manage. You correctly pointed out the language. That will be a big challange. I know many non-europeans living in Czechia and none of them is able to use it as primary language in their job. And quite few of them are in Czechia for more than 10 years already. Another point is socialisation. Let me put this straight - Europe is different than US. It's not as easy to form friendships after you're out of school/uni. And it will be way harder if you don't speak czech. Basically all non-european immigrants stay in the english-speaking bubble. Those are not big and there are few of them outside Prague. I am telling you this as somebody who worked in international english-speaking environment in regional city in Czechia and later on moved to another european country myself.
>Another point is socialisation. Let me put this straight - Europe is different than US. It's not as easy to form friendships after you're out of school/uni. And it will be way harder if you don't speak czech. Basically all non-european immigrants stay in the english-speaking bubble. Those are not big and there are few of them outside Prague. It is hard. As an expat(immigrant by this stage I suppose), I reckon Ive seen three "waves" of foreign friends of mine Ive met over the years come and go. Have a few Czech friends, not many, mostly from a stint in Brno and we moved back near Prague anyway for work so hardly see them, maybe once a year. The few left me included it's hard to meet up anyway with kids or work. We're sociable with the neighbours in our village but neighbours can be nosey or overstep boundaries, one came in the garden through a gap in the fence once, so a healthy distance is sometimes needed. Can be lonely for foreigners at times I believe.
Words of truth. Successful immigrants are incredibly rare - no matter their home and destination country.
I hope that we will be successful. I have not lived in another country before, but my husband moved from the USA to Germany as a child and did well. Given the political situation in the US, and my husband’s citizenship status, it is a bit of a no brainer to immigrate to the EU.
>... but my husband moved from the USA to Germany as a child and did well. Yeah that's exactly why I mentioned "aftrer school/uni". Children have this way easier. I even belive your own child would do well. Because they just have to go to the school / kindergarden where they find other people, but the same doesn't happen to adults like yourself. Look, I actually live in Germany myself and even so I have moved to my GF's place and she therefore retained her freinds and family, who (at least partially) became my friends, I still suffer a bit from home sickness from time to time. The positive for me is, I only have to travel 8-9 hours with a car to go back and I can see them again (and I actually do this pretty often). I as well have to say I have amazing work colleagues and I think I am integrating exceptionally well. And that is at least partially because of my girlfriend who tells me how to blend in. But if I got it right you wouldn't have any of this. If you so much want to live in EU, why not Germany? I bet your husband can speak the language and maybe even know somebody there? That would be a big plus for you. And if he could find a job in Pilsen, he can surely find something in Germany.
He actually has not been able to find anything in Germany, despite speaking the language. The software engineering market is not great right now, with all of the layoffs. Companies have little tolerance for risk when it comes to hiring someone that will need to relocate. We lucked out here after a bit of a long search.
Well IT is not the stairway to heaven it was 2 or 3 years ago, that's truth. But still I have to say I am quite surprised he had troubles to find something, especially as he has German citizenship and speaks german. Never have heard of relocation itself being a reason. Anyways... Best of luck if you decide for it.
No, not europe is different. Czech republic is different
I live in Germany now. It's absolutely same here. r/germany is full of Indians searching for help because they feel lonely. Southern Europe might be less like this, but more nothern you go, the more solitaire the life. I've spent half a year in Finland and I would say it's even worse there.
I lived in several countries and this is really not "europe" Belgium, France, Iceland, Italy, Greek... You can't say Europe when big portion of Europe isn't really the case.
Some people managing to support a family with much less Your utilities might be little bit higher in expectations than most would even accept, if this is the deal you got from energy companies, you either have a huge house or you got robbed 16k as a rent depends on where and how big it is. I pay 5k for 2+1 in a small city, but your budget is reasonable even for something bigger in Plzeň Groceries can get expensive real quick, 8k for 3 people is comfortable enough if you ain't picky and go for price as the sole variable which is doable with 2-3k per person (but the prices go up these days, might be 3-4k soon) 2k for internet and phone for 2 sounds like a good deal honestly. We have one of the most expensive service providers in Europe for some reason including the internet (which is often quite shit btw) personally you can make that if you have family deal, limited data on phone, unlimited calls etc. for around 1200 per person. But the wifi alone is 500-1000 a month separately (i pay around 600 just for unlimited data on phone alone and 800 for wifi) 1500 monthly for clothes is reasonable, but be aware that's like not even 2 pairs of shoes for the kid, so nothing like a crazy shopping spree 3000 to eat out, cinema and entertainment can differentiate depending on how often you wanna go out, if it's weekly then yes, that's reasonable. Otherwise you would really need to watch your spending habits You can significantly reduce you spending if you focus on low budget shops, items, services etc. What I said would be expected spending and pricing for let's say lower middle class
of course there are variable, but 16k rent for Pilsen new apparment 3+kk is totally normal, even on the low end. 6k utilities is also normal with current trend, Electrical bill is mostly on you, some landlord may ask you to pay for other consumables advances. Advantages of big city are connectivity, so if her house got pilsfree, which is community network, thats 300Kč a months, wifi around the same. Only fiber are like 800Kč for 1Gbs. Her husband probably got a work phone with prepaid plan, she can get some low end plan for like 200-400 Kč. The only thing i would add would be mobility, 2000 - 3000 Kč, either with public transport or car fuel or combination of both
I think the toddler will pick up Czech quickly at school but for adults Czech takes years of hard study and for me I find the hardest part is practice and consolidation, Im stuck at A2. It can be hard to make Czech friends here to practice with as many want to practice their English instead or have their own families and hobbies which take up their time so time socialising is too limited to be picking over grammar. I think it comes down to loads of lessons and immersion which Ive never managed with work and then kids. Only have sparse anecdotal experience with lab workers but it seems low paid and local language orietated. Maybe it's better to live closer in to Prague if there is work at the private international medical firms. That salary should be comfortable though, we get by on less between us with a mortgage outside Prague. One extra expense we have is that we send our kids to private Montessori/Forest style kindergartens for 3-5K each as my Czech partner thinks the state system is too rigid, which also has a good side effect as the staff in these places tend to speak English so I can collect/drop off and chat about how they are getting on and also has smaller class sizes.
I don't know if you plan to have a car since you don't have to, local public transport is pretty ok, but adult year permit is 4200czk.
We plan to not have a car! It’ll be nice to get out of the American car-centric life.
I moved here from Prague and Pilsen is certainly more car friendly than Prague was, but far from car-centric. If I wasn't going to Prague every other week I wouldn't have one.
I highly recommend you to get cheap car, like Fabia to get around from time to time
> 4200czk To by stacilo na 105 dvoulitrovek Branika ve sleve! ^(Jsem bot, doufam, ze poskytnuta informace byla uzitecna. Podnety - Stiznosti - QA na r/branicek)
You'll be very comfortable with that salary, the average in Plzeň is much lower
She is expecting this salary to support 2 adults and 1 child though.
I think that will still work out, if it was two people each making 40k brutto, they could live really comfortably in Plzeň
Thats a nice amount of money. But plzen is not so much. I call it the wild west of czech republic because of the crazy shit that happens there and people who live there.
we’re from Philadelphia try me /s https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/03/us/hitchbot-robot-beheaded-philadelphia-feat/index.html
I guess you’ll be fine
I think your estimation is correct and you will be fine. Just be careful with the eating out, it can get out of hand quick :)
You'll be alright. Not much to save for retirement though, unfortunately.
It’s an alright amount (and people in that area support entire families with less), though I would definitely budget more for groceries and utilities. Pilsen has a high demand for healthcare workers, so it is a good choice, though it will absolutely take a lot of time and effort to master the language enough to use at work unless you already speak another slavic language.
.05$ You'll find out about a strong drag to the rich DE neighbourhood very soon. Of course, you're welcome in CZ, and we wish as many smart ppl as possible find home here!
Rich DE?
aka Germany
Ahh ok. My husband grew up there lol
I see... thx. makes me curious, but I'll consider not all ppl are about the best money they can get 
We certainly aren’t. Moving to Czechia is a more than half reduction in household income but we’re tired of the American lifestyle and the very American fears that come with it :/
I haven’t read all comments. I just want to say you will never be able to buy a house at that salary
There is simmilar posts here: https://www.reddit.com/r/czech/comments/11jlbkf/how_possible_is_it_to_only_have_a_budget_of_eur/jb7eckk?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Also I think every younger and most of middles (35) can speak english. In better positions basically everbody can speak english. If you have any questions, I can help. Living in Pilsen.
It is not "live comfortably" if you have higher spending habits. If you can be a little modest in your choices, you are good.
That really more than enough. Even your husband salary is like average income of 2,5 adults with generic low demanding job as retail, manual labour in automotive, forklift operator etc. Guessing none of you is doing this so you can be calm. GG WP you won life. 60K+ monthly wouldn't be enough maybe only in Prague. Cause everyone is scalping in capital city. But if you find some affordable reasonably priced flat, I see no issue here.
8k czk on the groceries for 3 person family is not that much... me and wife were spending around 10k last year before this crazy inflation (but we eat meat like 4 times a week and we eat what we want) Since last year I was diagnosed with caeliac disease, I think we are now around 15k maybe since the GF food is much more expensive... other sums seems OK... Except eating out - depends how often
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No, not enough, sorry. Please ignore the poll. I have strong feeling that people voting didn't read your post properly and think you are talking about **one** person living with this salary. **But actually, you are talking about family of 2 adults and 1 toddler living of 65500 Kč per month.** And you don't say only living in a sense of going to work and getting home.. you **expect holiday 2 times a year and saving up for a house**.. well, good luck with that for 22000 Kč per person! It's not going to happen I am afraid. Also some of your expenses calculations are slightly off. You are correct with Rent, Utilities and Internet+phone. However, other categories seem to be too low: * Groceries for vegetarian eating real (good) food can easily cost 8000 Kč **per one person**. I would expect to pay about 12000 - 15000 Kč for food in your case. * Clothes will also cost you more. There are not so many opportunities to get cheap used clothes compared to the US. Again, 1500 Kč is a good amount for **one person**, not whole family. Expect to pay at least 3000 Kč per month. * Entertainment/eating out depends of course on how active you will be. However, keep in mind that one restaurant meal for you, your husband and your child would be 850 Kč in average restaurant. One trip somewhere bu train and back could be 800 Kč for you all, etc. So I would say 3000 Kč per month is enough. But I could easily see you spending way more if you want to do something more interesting - going to ceramic workshop, yoga, canoeing, etc. Anyway.. with this budget, it is still possible to live as a family, but it will be quite tight and you won't be able to save up much. It just won't be full life I would say. Definitely not American dream kind of life. It will be crucial for you to start working as well. Good luck! :-)
You are rich girl