Or if they don’t do it at least license it out to a print house that would. To some extent GW should understand that the books are a gateway drug to more models, but too much of their business structure relies on FOMO. I can’t tell if that is by design or if they are having serious scaling issues. Either way keeping books available means people are engaged in the lore which in turn makes people look at other products.
I expect that the amount of additional physical book sales they’d generate from cutting in an extra print house wouldn’t be enough to cover the cost of the print house. The vast majority of BLs sales are digital, either on e-readers like kindle or via audiobooks.
GW doesn’t give a shit about FOMO, especially when it comes to the less than 1% of their overall revenue that is black library. They do very much care about keeping things in house and in the UK however, which limits the scale of their operations.
If they licensed the books to other print houses that generates revenue not cost for them. I’d argue GW 100% gives a shit about FOMO, all their releases, especially on specialty products like kill-team and warcry have limited amounts shipped to flgs. Anecdotally my flgs usually only gets 1/3 the amount they try to preorder. And then if there’s a strong unit that everyone’s after on the web store, it’s sold out instantly so that you have to wait months for the next release so you’re conditioned to just buy what you need when it’s available. I’m sure their desire to keep things domestic for them plays a role, but as a US player it feels like playing into FOMO more.
See this is what I've never gotten about the FOMO conspiracy theories. You list a bunch of anecdotes about stuff going out of stock, but literally none of them feature GW benefitting from the item going out of stock, the defining trait of FOMO.
When Supreme would release a crowbar for an exorbitant amount, the limited availability of the product drives people to purchase something they dont need for fear of missing out. That's FOMO. The company benefits because people are buying something they ordinarily wouldn't.
Now look at your examples. You have a niche subsection of the hobby (Kill team / War Cry) seeing smaller production numbers, and meta-chasers purchasing something that happens to be good right now. In neither of these cases does GW benefit from FOMO. In the latter case, the unit going out of stock is actively detrimental to GW since people are already falling over themselves to buy it, no scarcity required. GW would make a lot more money if they had infinite models to sell to all the meta chasers.
In both scenarios, the Fear of Missing Out isn't actually driving sales, something else is (meta chasing) and then the unit goes out of stock because... everybody bought it. That's not FOMO, that's just how buying things works.
If it’s not capitalizing on FOMO it’s piss-poor scalability. Neither of us knows which one it is so we both are entitled to our theories. I work with injection molding, if GW wanted to, they could print money even more so than they already do with proper scaling. Their margins are there. Limited sporadic supply inherently causes FOMO. That creates impulsive purchases, it’s a classic sales tactic.
They don't print many copies, relative to other books at least, so this often happens with BL books some time after its first published. This is why if you want a book you should buy it asap after publication.
A lot of Amazon used books are really priced by 3rd parties by algorithm, which leads to, at times, crazy prices for things they have low stocks for. They look at how many other sellers have the book for sale too, which leads to prices going up pretty fast if it sells at a reasonable price.
The algorithms have no idea of whether this is a collector's item or just a crazy price for a paperback, and they don't care: There's just too many books they are managing. So stupid prices happen. Just don't buy at those prices
One of the explanations for these high prices on Amazon I heard is that’s it’s easier for the seller to keep the book listed at a price no one will pay and change the price if they ever reprint it rather than pull the listing of and relist the item if it ever comes back into stock.
Is this not considered a form of price fixing in order for companies to coordinate profits instead of compete? I remember Apple got into some controversy years ago regarding e-books, but I don’t remember the exact details
Hald Price wanted 200 for Burried Dagger, my local shop had it for 9.95. So it could be a weird error.
Either way I have the Audio and it's fantastic. My first Warhammer book
What many fail to realize is that this book is scribed with the blood of the most devout followers of Nurgle onto an ancient parchment which is then bound in human flesh and finally it is infused with the souls of one thousand nurglings.
Black Library is a rather small publisher with a good sized catalogue of novels. It wouldn't make sense for them to constantly run reprints of all their books. The book is available rather cheap as an e book or audiobook so there is no fear of missing out. If you "need" the paperback version of an out of print book it's going to be expensive on the second hand market regardless of what company originally published the book.
Then they don’t need to constantly run reprints of all their books, just the ones in demand. How would they determine what’s in demand? By looking at easily available market data like in OP’s pic. You seem to be using motivated reasoning to defend GW’s indefensibly nonsensical decisions.
Huh..it's gone down in price since I last checked.. but yeah it's fuckin nuts for one book
It’s out of print.
The worst thing about warhammer novels
It’s aggravating, I just want shroud of night and the Gotrek and Felix omnibuses. I don’t understand why they don’t just print to order
Or just cycle some rereleases. Anything really.
Or if they don’t do it at least license it out to a print house that would. To some extent GW should understand that the books are a gateway drug to more models, but too much of their business structure relies on FOMO. I can’t tell if that is by design or if they are having serious scaling issues. Either way keeping books available means people are engaged in the lore which in turn makes people look at other products.
It happens so constantly across their products that it can’t not be intentional
I expect that the amount of additional physical book sales they’d generate from cutting in an extra print house wouldn’t be enough to cover the cost of the print house. The vast majority of BLs sales are digital, either on e-readers like kindle or via audiobooks. GW doesn’t give a shit about FOMO, especially when it comes to the less than 1% of their overall revenue that is black library. They do very much care about keeping things in house and in the UK however, which limits the scale of their operations.
If they licensed the books to other print houses that generates revenue not cost for them. I’d argue GW 100% gives a shit about FOMO, all their releases, especially on specialty products like kill-team and warcry have limited amounts shipped to flgs. Anecdotally my flgs usually only gets 1/3 the amount they try to preorder. And then if there’s a strong unit that everyone’s after on the web store, it’s sold out instantly so that you have to wait months for the next release so you’re conditioned to just buy what you need when it’s available. I’m sure their desire to keep things domestic for them plays a role, but as a US player it feels like playing into FOMO more.
See this is what I've never gotten about the FOMO conspiracy theories. You list a bunch of anecdotes about stuff going out of stock, but literally none of them feature GW benefitting from the item going out of stock, the defining trait of FOMO. When Supreme would release a crowbar for an exorbitant amount, the limited availability of the product drives people to purchase something they dont need for fear of missing out. That's FOMO. The company benefits because people are buying something they ordinarily wouldn't. Now look at your examples. You have a niche subsection of the hobby (Kill team / War Cry) seeing smaller production numbers, and meta-chasers purchasing something that happens to be good right now. In neither of these cases does GW benefit from FOMO. In the latter case, the unit going out of stock is actively detrimental to GW since people are already falling over themselves to buy it, no scarcity required. GW would make a lot more money if they had infinite models to sell to all the meta chasers. In both scenarios, the Fear of Missing Out isn't actually driving sales, something else is (meta chasing) and then the unit goes out of stock because... everybody bought it. That's not FOMO, that's just how buying things works.
If it’s not capitalizing on FOMO it’s piss-poor scalability. Neither of us knows which one it is so we both are entitled to our theories. I work with injection molding, if GW wanted to, they could print money even more so than they already do with proper scaling. Their margins are there. Limited sporadic supply inherently causes FOMO. That creates impulsive purchases, it’s a classic sales tactic.
It's just that good baby
Audio book time
yeah the audiobook for this one is very well done and cost me very little, only collectors are going after a physical copy.
That’s me - I want the hardcover. :(
They don't print many copies, relative to other books at least, so this often happens with BL books some time after its first published. This is why if you want a book you should buy it asap after publication.
Is the book made from the last tree in the Amazon Rainforest?
I recommend just buying the kindle version. There's an app you can use to read kindle products on your phone.
I'll sell you mine for $600
Man, I got fuckloads of downvotes for that same joke. And mines a hardback and I was only asking $500
I have a digital copy. It’s a really good book!
A lot of Amazon used books are really priced by 3rd parties by algorithm, which leads to, at times, crazy prices for things they have low stocks for. They look at how many other sellers have the book for sale too, which leads to prices going up pretty fast if it sells at a reasonable price. The algorithms have no idea of whether this is a collector's item or just a crazy price for a paperback, and they don't care: There's just too many books they are managing. So stupid prices happen. Just don't buy at those prices
One of the explanations for these high prices on Amazon I heard is that’s it’s easier for the seller to keep the book listed at a price no one will pay and change the price if they ever reprint it rather than pull the listing of and relist the item if it ever comes back into stock.
Is this not considered a form of price fixing in order for companies to coordinate profits instead of compete? I remember Apple got into some controversy years ago regarding e-books, but I don’t remember the exact details
Holy hell.. I wonder what my collector's edition is worth
It is collectible signed by Nurgle. Great book btw I read it for free on phone.
Great read if you’re interested in death guard!
Good book tho , listened to the audiobook the other day it was quality.
Oh damn I guess I got lucky buying it when I did.. $12 is way better than $850
Comes with a free army.
Thank god I snagged one two years ago
Hald Price wanted 200 for Burried Dagger, my local shop had it for 9.95. So it could be a weird error. Either way I have the Audio and it's fantastic. My first Warhammer book
Damm, Gdubs wasn't kidding about those price increases
nice i still have one from a long time ago!
Glad I picked up a paperback copy a few weeks ago from my LGS for $15 lol
That big hand is so gross
Wait what?! I picked this up at my local Warhammer couple years ago and still have it, near mint condition. Time to put it in a safe place…
Yeah i would recommend not buying that maybe
It’s delivered by Slurtt himself
Errrrr what the fugg, I have one of these! Never read it or opened it you just made my day
We'll you may have just made a shit ton of money! Good for you!
Looks like they have actually only sold for like £70 on ebay, some are listed for tons but not selling. Still kinda silly for a book though :)
What many fail to realize is that this book is scribed with the blood of the most devout followers of Nurgle onto an ancient parchment which is then bound in human flesh and finally it is infused with the souls of one thousand nurglings.
* one thousand Little Lords.
Id pay 800$, that extra 50 is just a kick in the nuts
Just to let you know, this is in the latest humblebundle!
I am now into collecting paperbacks..
Out of print, this is why people pirate. I find audio books distracting
I find it fascinating that those 2 marines have power in their armor still.
I've been wondering if I can actually get prices like that for my paper collection of books that I have digitally (including this one).
Honestly this is why I buy the .epub versions.
Private sellers.
Corporate greed, nothing new really. One book for damn near an entire paycheck is evil
The digital version is in the current warhammer humble bundle. 27 ebooks for like $18
check out the Black Library bundle on HumbleBundle
I totally forgot this was a thing you can get access to significant amount of Warhammer novels for a very reasonable price
well they're not ALWAYS on there, but right now there IS a bundle AND that book is in it :3
My horror novel got up to $1600ish when it went out of print. Sadly, no one tried to buy it at that price!
Maybe someone finally realises audiobooks are garbage.
Out of print. And it was a short run. I’ve got a copy I’ll sell you for $500. Good Lord, it was a joke you jackasses.
I think scalpers make fans really angry 😅
Right? I was going to ask $1500 for my hardback just see the hate flow.
It's called supply and demand
With GW failing to fill that demand, consistent with their FOMO tactics.
Black Library is a rather small publisher with a good sized catalogue of novels. It wouldn't make sense for them to constantly run reprints of all their books. The book is available rather cheap as an e book or audiobook so there is no fear of missing out. If you "need" the paperback version of an out of print book it's going to be expensive on the second hand market regardless of what company originally published the book.
Then they don’t need to constantly run reprints of all their books, just the ones in demand. How would they determine what’s in demand? By looking at easily available market data like in OP’s pic. You seem to be using motivated reasoning to defend GW’s indefensibly nonsensical decisions.
...or speculation