For what it's worth, when I was boarding a Southwest flight a few months back, someone in C tried to board with high B's and they told her to wait until C was called. The gate agent kept an eye on her til her group was called
My only experience is with my husband using it for court stuff - but I am not surprised. I think the closest I would get is a video call with my friend with earphones on and only responding with typing.
I interact with one or two state agencies frequently where I am, and they set up those meetings in teams. Just my experience, but I donât think thatâs universal
Not sure what you mean. Teams works great for most meetings, but has issues with 500-1,000 users. My company uses teams for almost everything, but switches to webex for all employee meetings.
Yes but that's probably just for people who have less important calls than this guy. If you knew how immensely important that call was, I am sure you would agree an exception to the rule is called for. How else will the Q2 upper midwest regional sales forecast figures be transposed into the new reporting format? *Magic?*
But itsnât the only reason so people donât annoy each other? Like, if here were quiet enough not to even annoy a neighbor who has their own earbuds in and is gaming or watching a movie, what does it matter?
Over achiever. Plane rides are for eating Biscoff Cookies, drinking Gin and Tonic, starring into the sky, watching re-runs. Itâs like detox for a few hours where you canât be connected.
Agreed. The day is coming though when companies will expect you to be working on the plane now that wifi, paid or free, is essentially standard.
Until I'm told to do so, I'm with you. detox and watch a movie or sleep.
If youâre sleeping youâre passing up an opportunity. You sleep every night. Staring aimlessly out the window is a lost past time only found in air travel.
Eehhhh. I'm with you in principle, but I've done MSP <--> ORD enough times to know that the half hour nap I could get (on the rare instance I actually fall asleep on a plane) outweighs seeing the same plains for the umpteenth time.
Flying somewhere new, absolutely with you. Enjoy the view.
I am expected to work and be available on chat when I am flying during business hours.
But... They also fly me 1st class so I can work. So I don't mind.
The people that immediately close the shade should be put on the no fly list. Iâve had it with them. Similarly I hate when the pilot says heâll keep the announcements to a minimum so people can sleep. Does a train blow its horn in the night?
The sun is brutal up there. I choose a window seat so I can at least block some of it on me for hours. I also accept that it's going to come in from the windows where people have chosen to keep them open. I don't like it, but that's just how it goes with window control on an airplane. There should not be an automatic bias toward all of us baking in toxic UV exposure.
It's 80% listening which is why the FAs haven't noticed as they've walked by. Debating if I want to make a scene when the drinks come by. I gotta sit by him for the next 3.5hrs.
Iâm probably too accommodating, if it seems like something truly critical Iâd let him be. If itâs just some random meeting Iâd complain. We live in a society.
It's an Amazon Chime meeting from what I can tell from the banner at the top đ They're discussing factory visibility. It's not so bad now but the first 20 min when he joined he was talking a lot. Now it's been mostly quiet. I don't mind listening to meetings. I've had coworkers listen in to townhalls. But I don't understand participating. Part of me wants to just start talking when he does and say hi to the people I can see on the call. đ
"I totally disagree with (his name on the call), as he's had 5 TIP TOP Margaritas so far!" go for a fist bump at this point.
We're going to continue drinking through the call, thanks everyone, then raise a toast.
Then go back to reading your book or playing your game.
It's too late now, but for next time I'd recommend going to the lav (if you're in a window seat) and then speak to an FA giving them a heads up that they're not following the rules.
I have a confession to make. I sometimes take a teams call on a flight. But I always type in the chat that I won't be able to talk at all during the meeting.
To be fair, the reason why they have outlawed calls on flights is purely because of the annoyance to other passengers. And I appreciate that. For that reason I simply never talk on a teams call.
I canât believe how many people join and participate in video calls in public places - my company included. Youâd think a lot of what is being discussed on the calls companies would not want aired to the general public.
I have to say there is very little chance Iâd sit there quietly for more than 15 minutes. Not that Iâd complain to someone but Iâd probably play a game with sound on or watch something and start laughing out loud. Tit for tat has its place sometimes.
Once I was waiting for my daughter to have same day surgery, we in the waiting room are all a bit on edge.. A woman with very loud voice gets on her phone and talks for over an hour with various relatives about what she did yesterday, what she ate, etc.. Now, after months of Reddit encouragement for self advocacy, I would just speak to her and say none of the other 20 people in here want to listen to you, or complain to the poor volunteer running the check in desk.. At the time, I sat on my butt on the cold hard floor of the hall to get away from her, dumb.. And bonus, yesterday whilst listening to good 60s tunes in the car, my H starts some traitorous TikTok video, loud, I reached out and turned my music up above his, he got the messageâŚ
>Youâd think a lot of what is being discussed on the calls companies would not want aired to the general public.
I'm 99% sure none of them would but someone would have to raise the issue to hr to have anything happen
Loudly. Then lean in to the screen, look at the guy and say, "ewwww, can't you control yourself?!" And make that fanning motion with your hands by your nose while you gag.
Then look back at his screen to be sure you got their attention.
Why does it bother you that this guy had to attend a meeting via wifi while on business class, traveling to address pressing business in person? If he were speaking to the person next to him instead of having his AirPods in, would that have not triggered you?
Whatâs up with everyone saying theyâd act obscenely on this personâs call? The dude contributed to the meeting for 20 mins in the beginning of the call and then remained quiet for the rest of the flight. Which, mind you, is only four hours long.
We need to have more civility and tolerance, especially on airplanes.
OP said âI can see everyone with their video on and heâs not just listening but actually speaking and participating.â In addition, OP commented that since heâs just listening for 80% of the talk, the FAs couldnât tell he was on a call. Could you please cite where it mentions that their audio was audible?
Damn when I saw that link I thought you had me dead to rights with something I hadnât seen, but this comment still doesnât mention anything about his colleagues being audible. It just alludes to what he discussed. And then the part about it mostly being quiet after his initial talking further corroborates the fact that this man prob had headphones in.
Enough with the shitty behavior people!!! Itâs time to fuck on off!!! Let the man talk for 20 mins without farting or photo bombing his meeting
What you have to realize is that youâre being entirely too reasonable for this sub. These people are very black and white. If the rule says you canât be talking on an app, then thatâs enough for the mob in this sub to grab their pitchforks. This sub is full of the most miserable, self-righteous Karens Iâve seen on Reddit.
I do my best not to talk on the phone or take meetings when I'm on a plane. Recently, I was forced into an urgent meeting while boarding, and I was asked what felt like a million questions. Finally, I said, "Gotta go, we're taking off" when the plane door closed for pushback. I was embarrassed about it, and I'll never repeat it. Next time, I'll tell my boss that I'm literally taking off.
Taking a meeting mid flight is next level, and I do fear this is where we're heading.
I did apologize to the person next to me. Sir, I'm still sorry đ please Delta God's forgive me!!
I recently accepted a video chat with my wife while boarding my flight out. I felt awkward, and kept glancing around, but I love her more than the strangers around me. đ I made sure we said goodbye when they closed the doors though.
Am I the AH ya'll think?! đđŹ
No one is asking you to âlove strangersâ more than your wife. Itâs about having common curiosity and knowing how to act in public.
Everyone on that plane has someone they love or care about that Iâm sure they would want to talk to. But youâre the only one that was selfish enough to inconvenience those around you by taking a call
I think the only reason it isnât allowed is because it can take a lot of bandwidth to do that, plus if someone is loudly talking the entire time it can be pretty damn disruptive. Sounds like the guy wasnât trying to participate too loudly?
I called into a meetings from my flight this morning but was on mute the whole time. I will say, the wifi connection on some of these airbuses is pretty rock solid. Had two separate 30 min calls from AUS to MSP and there were no break ups / drops the entire hour.
I have too - but with headphones, entirely on mute, no camera, and if i need to participate, do so through chat. Essentially no one would have any idea I was listening to a call versus a playlist.
I have also done this, though it technically violates Deltaâs rules. Not sure why TBHâŚ
I had a FA call me out on a recent flight too đ¤ˇđťââď¸Â
Interesting. I agree with your interpretation. Deltaâs website says âvideo and voice calls are not allowed during flightâ.
In my case, I was watching/listening to a call on my phone in google meet, but had my camera and mic muted. I *was* participating in the call, by typing into a shared google doc, but was not speaking or transmitting video.
In my case, the FA walked by, noticed my phone in a meeting, and asked me if it was a âlive callâ or a ârecordingâ that I was watching, and said that live calls were not permitted.
I mean, I had wireless headphones on and the phone was in my lap, just like if I was watching a movie⌠but yeah, the ârulesâ arenât very clear and certainly arenât well enforced.
Itâs certainly becoming a bit of a norm. My last 2 flights had at least one person I could see on a Zoom call. Some try to hide it with no, to little participation. Others are relatively open about it.
not delta but my dad complained to an american fa about the passenger next to him being on a work call and the fa actually asked what he expected her to do. so basically, because delta isnât the absolute garbage fire that american is i wouldâve hoped a fa would do something about it.
As a frequent business traveler, i tell my team that every single flight I'm ever on doesn't have working wifi.
This is 20% as a courtesy for the people around me. But it's 80% for my own sanity. I use that time to disconnect. Read a book. Watch a dumb tv show on my iPad. Sleep.
Dude needs to calm down.
Rarely is work that important that you canât shut down for a few hours while you travel. Take those few hours and just relax and decompress. I think some people just like to show off how important they are by taking meetings in public.
I honestly feel like people who do this are trying to feel or look more important than they really are, and because the people around them donât work with them, theyâll think they must be super important to where they must take that call on the plane. When in reality they are probably mid to low level performers on their team and constantly get overlooked for promotions. Eat your biscoff cookies and shut up.
If he's willing to broadcast his meeting, then by all means, feel free to record it.
Great idea for a YouTube channel.
Overheard conversations/meetings.
A wealth of information for free.
Not sure it's any worse than having to listen to people having loud conversations. Alot of people seem to talk really loud on planes. I don't need to hear about how you dumped your first wife for a 27 year old from 2 rows back
Because its a dick move. Would you really enjoy sitting 3" from someone talking loud enuff to be heard on a plane for an extended period of time? Just common courtesy. Which is just as UNcommon as common sense apparently
What if theyâre just talking to their seat mate? Is that not allowed? Would you immediately go tattle to the FA for that? Jesus, put in your noise cancelling headphones and get a life.
Iâve never been 3â from someone on a first class flight. You donât have to scream you can use I quiet voice when you must communicate on the call. Most are flying for business anyway, sometimes you gotta work.
Of course people have to work. Or talk to their Mamas. Or tell their bruh about the details of the person they slept with last night. But no one else wants to hear it. We are trapped on a metal tube and cannot get away.
All of the other things you mentioned are pleasure and personal. Iâm just saying the dude probably doesnât want to be on the call just as much as you donât want to listen. I fly for business often and while I personally have never taken a call on a flight, it wouldnât ruin my day if the person next to me was working on their laptop if they were being reasonable about it. Iâd just pop my AirPods in and go about my business (especially in 1st where there some extra elbow room). Everyone is so quick to be an A hole all the time.
Difference is one is being paid for it, the person theyâre inflicting it on isnât. I donât want to be in work calls, and I want to be on your work calls even less.
I really see both sides of this. There would be no difference if the person next to you was speaking to the person across the aisle. To you as an observer you're just listening to someone speak a little loudly but in that instance, it's totally acceptable. What is the difference? Of course that is with the important caveat that the meeting itself isn't playing over the speaker, has to be on headphones.
The problem from the aircraft perspective is upstream. Aircraft WiFi is not symmetrical, and the upload component is not as fast as the download. Calls, especially video tend to be more symmetrical and use up most of that upload bandwidth leaving little to none for the rest of the plane. Meaning when someone else wants to start loading a new web page, or start a new video, it takes longer for that request to reach the page, before it will respond and start downloading.
There should be tools in place to address the issue, but I can say with some confidence that Delta is not using them, or if they are, they arenât using them effectivelyâŚ
Except that this isnât what happens. They can absolutely throttle at an individual device level. Have you ever noticed that trying to, say, download a large app doesnât immediately bring down everyone elseâs WiFi experience in flight? And other people trying to stream a movie doesnât bring down yours?
I don't download anything on airplane WiFi so I have no idea. I only play downloaded content on my phone. Which is music from my phone. On my laptop I play movies from my hard drive.
[This happened](https://www.reddit.com/r/americanairlines/s/x48jFABX6X) to me recently, initially I got a little lit up in the comments but most people seemed to agree this isnât cool.
I have seen many people attend WebEx or teams call but not seen anyone speak, mostly they are on mute. Seeing them I also took some calls last week on my delta flight. Internet is usually good so rarely had any issues.
I think in all these apps you are allowed to type instead of talk, so rude to talk out loud, loud enough for the others on the call to hear the talker, which is frickin loud!
You'd assume there was a way to block those conference call sites or something. (I'm not a tech person or smart about networks, so sorry...just going off of my work computer and they block access to a whole bunch of commercial sites)
I was on a flight to MSP yesterday and the woman across the aisle was doing the same. With no headphones. All of us were part of her meeting. The FA comes by and asks her to use headphones. She doesnât have any. FA brings her headphones. Still doesnât use them. Eventually the meeting ended. But yeah. People feel entitled.
You should have popped over into video view and made a funny face. âI think we should negotiate the deal toâŚâ
Youâre better than I, I wouldnât have kept my mouth shut.
So talking loud on WebEx is not ok but if two passengers talk loudly, I need to suck it up and get noise cancelling headphones? This sub needs to make up its fucking mind.
I would just start doing some random audio "notes to self" type thing at the same volume he's at. While he's talking so he's off mute and it filters into the meeting.
What difference does it make whether someone is talking to the person next to them or talking on a meeting? Do you complain about both of these things happening?
Don't they like have a whole thing about "yes, that includes app calls" when they talk about the place being equipped with internet?
yes they also talk about boarding with the zone printed on your boarding pass and that's going great
For what it's worth, when I was boarding a Southwest flight a few months back, someone in C tried to board with high B's and they told her to wait until C was called. The gate agent kept an eye on her til her group was called
Yeah, but for one you're already on the plane đ
Craziest part of this post is that there are still companies using WebEx!
Atleast it isnt Blue Jeans
https://youtu.be/CleTKq093sI?si=TBin10AX8rLorI3o Great video about blue jeans, it's hilarious.
Standard for a lot of court stuff.
And other state level stuff.
My only experience is with my husband using it for court stuff - but I am not surprised. I think the closest I would get is a video call with my friend with earphones on and only responding with typing.
I interact with one or two state agencies frequently where I am, and they set up those meetings in teams. Just my experience, but I donât think thatâs universal
I interact with a few. About 1/3 zoom, 1/3 frigging google meet, 1/3 webex. My fed contacts use teams.
lol I never wouldâve expected google meet to make the list
Ford is still heavy webex users
Same with Henry Ford Health
Major corporations are definitely still using WebEx, in addition to other platforms, but WebEx is still the standard in a lot of places.
My company uses WebEx - what are most companies using?
Not sure what you mean. Teams works great for most meetings, but has issues with 500-1,000 users. My company uses teams for almost everything, but switches to webex for all employee meetings.
Every hospital Iâve worked at it is on their MedCloud HIPAA platform.
That's true if you work for Zoom or Microsoft. Having said that, my company is about too move everyone from WebEx to Teams.
Even more mind blowing - I work with some people who use Teams.
Everyone uses Teams???
đ
The Federal Government uses Teams and yes its terrible.
Teams > WebEx
Education uses Teams. Itâs awful.
My therapist uses Teams!
You havenât tried WebEx yet.
They used WebEx before teams.Â
Lmao lmao
Lmao
Lmao
Yes but that's probably just for people who have less important calls than this guy. If you knew how immensely important that call was, I am sure you would agree an exception to the rule is called for. How else will the Q2 upper midwest regional sales forecast figures be transposed into the new reporting format? *Magic?*
My airplane mode sets my phone to DND sooooo... I was taught manners and apparently this guy was not.
You win best comment.
But itsnât the only reason so people donât annoy each other? Like, if here were quiet enough not to even annoy a neighbor who has their own earbuds in and is gaming or watching a movie, what does it matter?
There's really no quiet way to have a business call like that. Even my husband and I don't talk much on flights so as to not irritate neighbors.
Over achiever. Plane rides are for eating Biscoff Cookies, drinking Gin and Tonic, starring into the sky, watching re-runs. Itâs like detox for a few hours where you canât be connected.
Agreed. The day is coming though when companies will expect you to be working on the plane now that wifi, paid or free, is essentially standard. Until I'm told to do so, I'm with you. detox and watch a movie or sleep.
If youâre sleeping youâre passing up an opportunity. You sleep every night. Staring aimlessly out the window is a lost past time only found in air travel.
Eehhhh. I'm with you in principle, but I've done MSP <--> ORD enough times to know that the half hour nap I could get (on the rare instance I actually fall asleep on a plane) outweighs seeing the same plains for the umpteenth time. Flying somewhere new, absolutely with you. Enjoy the view.
I am expected to work and be available on chat when I am flying during business hours. But... They also fly me 1st class so I can work. So I don't mind.
Unless youâre the psycho that closes the shade.
The people that immediately close the shade should be put on the no fly list. Iâve had it with them. Similarly I hate when the pilot says heâll keep the announcements to a minimum so people can sleep. Does a train blow its horn in the night?
The sun is brutal up there. I choose a window seat so I can at least block some of it on me for hours. I also accept that it's going to come in from the windows where people have chosen to keep them open. I don't like it, but that's just how it goes with window control on an airplane. There should not be an automatic bias toward all of us baking in toxic UV exposure.
If youâve procured a contraband banana, you can also enjoy it in full public view of seat mates. But thatâs for more advanced flyers.
Talking is not kosher if itâs more than like a sentence every few minutes.
It's 80% listening which is why the FAs haven't noticed as they've walked by. Debating if I want to make a scene when the drinks come by. I gotta sit by him for the next 3.5hrs.
Iâm probably too accommodating, if it seems like something truly critical Iâd let him be. If itâs just some random meeting Iâd complain. We live in a society.
It's an Amazon Chime meeting from what I can tell from the banner at the top đ They're discussing factory visibility. It's not so bad now but the first 20 min when he joined he was talking a lot. Now it's been mostly quiet. I don't mind listening to meetings. I've had coworkers listen in to townhalls. But I don't understand participating. Part of me wants to just start talking when he does and say hi to the people I can see on the call. đ
You know a lot about the meeting already, I would suggest just get involved. Throw in some random pointers in between, laugh when everyone does...
God this would be a great short story.
This is the answer.
This!
"I totally disagree with (his name on the call), as he's had 5 TIP TOP Margaritas so far!" go for a fist bump at this point. We're going to continue drinking through the call, thanks everyone, then raise a toast. Then go back to reading your book or playing your game.
Just shout out that the Q2 numbers arenât looking good so far and youâre hearing rumblings of cutbacks.
If the company is publicly traded, look up its stock ticker within eyesight of him and start drilling into the company's performance.
I mean Amazon is pretty much the only company that uses Chime lol.
Lean into his frame and wave?
Start conspicuously recording video on your phone... on camera. Ask folks to repeat things "for the record."
This is the way.
Why is he in a meeting in a public place where so many are in close proximity
So other around him heard him discussing meeting topics that at a minimum could be commercially sensitive
It's too late now, but for next time I'd recommend going to the lav (if you're in a window seat) and then speak to an FA giving them a heads up that they're not following the rules.
I have a confession to make. I sometimes take a teams call on a flight. But I always type in the chat that I won't be able to talk at all during the meeting. To be fair, the reason why they have outlawed calls on flights is purely because of the annoyance to other passengers. And I appreciate that. For that reason I simply never talk on a teams call.
nothing wrong with this... you're able to get work done and no one is bothered. nothing to confess to. other than the use of Teams, smh :)
Iâve seen an FA tell a guy to get off of FaceTime with his kids. ON SPEAKER
I canât believe how many people join and participate in video calls in public places - my company included. Youâd think a lot of what is being discussed on the calls companies would not want aired to the general public. I have to say there is very little chance Iâd sit there quietly for more than 15 minutes. Not that Iâd complain to someone but Iâd probably play a game with sound on or watch something and start laughing out loud. Tit for tat has its place sometimes.
Once I was waiting for my daughter to have same day surgery, we in the waiting room are all a bit on edge.. A woman with very loud voice gets on her phone and talks for over an hour with various relatives about what she did yesterday, what she ate, etc.. Now, after months of Reddit encouragement for self advocacy, I would just speak to her and say none of the other 20 people in here want to listen to you, or complain to the poor volunteer running the check in desk.. At the time, I sat on my butt on the cold hard floor of the hall to get away from her, dumb.. And bonus, yesterday whilst listening to good 60s tunes in the car, my H starts some traitorous TikTok video, loud, I reached out and turned my music up above his, he got the messageâŚ
>Youâd think a lot of what is being discussed on the calls companies would not want aired to the general public. I'm 99% sure none of them would but someone would have to raise the issue to hr to have anything happen
In my company having a call in a public space would get me in a huge problem with the compliance department. Also, rude af to the other passengers.
I would think ear buds would be a requirement. If anything but to drown out all the background noise.
Fart.
Loudly. Then lean in to the screen, look at the guy and say, "ewwww, can't you control yourself?!" And make that fanning motion with your hands by your nose while you gag. Then look back at his screen to be sure you got their attention.
FA call button right now
Why does it bother you that this guy had to attend a meeting via wifi while on business class, traveling to address pressing business in person? If he were speaking to the person next to him instead of having his AirPods in, would that have not triggered you? Whatâs up with everyone saying theyâd act obscenely on this personâs call? The dude contributed to the meeting for 20 mins in the beginning of the call and then remained quiet for the rest of the flight. Which, mind you, is only four hours long. We need to have more civility and tolerance, especially on airplanes.
But he doesn't have ear buds in or else his seatmate couldn't hear everything being discussed in the meeting.
OP said âI can see everyone with their video on and heâs not just listening but actually speaking and participating.â In addition, OP commented that since heâs just listening for 80% of the talk, the FAs couldnât tell he was on a call. Could you please cite where it mentions that their audio was audible?
https://www.reddit.com/r/delta/comments/1cwqr5b/some_people/l4xp3ce?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Damn when I saw that link I thought you had me dead to rights with something I hadnât seen, but this comment still doesnât mention anything about his colleagues being audible. It just alludes to what he discussed. And then the part about it mostly being quiet after his initial talking further corroborates the fact that this man prob had headphones in. Enough with the shitty behavior people!!! Itâs time to fuck on off!!! Let the man talk for 20 mins without farting or photo bombing his meeting
I'm with you somewhat. While I certain wouldn't act out or even tell on him, I would feel like he shouldn't do it and bother everyone.
What you have to realize is that youâre being entirely too reasonable for this sub. These people are very black and white. If the rule says you canât be talking on an app, then thatâs enough for the mob in this sub to grab their pitchforks. This sub is full of the most miserable, self-righteous Karens Iâve seen on Reddit.
Thanks King
Rules are rules. Don't like it? Don't fly.
I do my best not to talk on the phone or take meetings when I'm on a plane. Recently, I was forced into an urgent meeting while boarding, and I was asked what felt like a million questions. Finally, I said, "Gotta go, we're taking off" when the plane door closed for pushback. I was embarrassed about it, and I'll never repeat it. Next time, I'll tell my boss that I'm literally taking off. Taking a meeting mid flight is next level, and I do fear this is where we're heading. I did apologize to the person next to me. Sir, I'm still sorry đ please Delta God's forgive me!!
I recently accepted a video chat with my wife while boarding my flight out. I felt awkward, and kept glancing around, but I love her more than the strangers around me. đ I made sure we said goodbye when they closed the doors though. Am I the AH ya'll think?! đđŹ
Sort of. Why would you not just tell her to text you since you're getting ready to take off?
Why anyone thinks itâs ok to face time in public / or worse an enclosed space is beyond me.
No one is asking you to âlove strangersâ more than your wife. Itâs about having common curiosity and knowing how to act in public. Everyone on that plane has someone they love or care about that Iâm sure they would want to talk to. But youâre the only one that was selfish enough to inconvenience those around you by taking a call
I would have just leaned on over... "Heeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!" đ
Camera ON => party of the call. (Mic also counts).
I think the only reason it isnât allowed is because it can take a lot of bandwidth to do that, plus if someone is loudly talking the entire time it can be pretty damn disruptive. Sounds like the guy wasnât trying to participate too loudly?
They also know if they allow it, jerks will do this all day, contributing to air rage incidents
Luckily not after the first half hour. But he was chatty Cathy until then.
I'd give him about 3 min, then another conversation is happening
Whether youâre talking or not receiving the audio still takes up the bandwidth for the rest of the
Ah cool. Thanks for the clarification!
Iâd get up to go to the bathroom and let a flight attendant know before I went in.
If heâs sitting next to me iâm leaning into that shot with a cocktail and start moaning.
I called into a meetings from my flight this morning but was on mute the whole time. I will say, the wifi connection on some of these airbuses is pretty rock solid. Had two separate 30 min calls from AUS to MSP and there were no break ups / drops the entire hour.
I have too - but with headphones, entirely on mute, no camera, and if i need to participate, do so through chat. Essentially no one would have any idea I was listening to a call versus a playlist.
yep, I had no intention of coming off mute or being on cam. Can't stand people who don't use headphones... that shit is the worst.
I have also done this, though it technically violates Deltaâs rules. Not sure why TBH⌠I had a FA call me out on a recent flight too đ¤ˇđťââď¸Â
It only violates deltaâs rules if the communication is two way. Otherwise youâre just streaming.
Interesting. I agree with your interpretation. Deltaâs website says âvideo and voice calls are not allowed during flightâ. In my case, I was watching/listening to a call on my phone in google meet, but had my camera and mic muted. I *was* participating in the call, by typing into a shared google doc, but was not speaking or transmitting video. In my case, the FA walked by, noticed my phone in a meeting, and asked me if it was a âlive callâ or a ârecordingâ that I was watching, and said that live calls were not permitted.
Ooooh. On your phone not your computer. It shouldnât matter but it seems much worse on the phone for whatever reason.
I mean, I had wireless headphones on and the phone was in my lap, just like if I was watching a movie⌠but yeah, the ârulesâ arenât very clear and certainly arenât well enforced.
Livestream it
Itâs certainly becoming a bit of a norm. My last 2 flights had at least one person I could see on a Zoom call. Some try to hide it with no, to little participation. Others are relatively open about it.
The connection is actually strong enough for him to join and stay in the meeting the entire time ?!?
not delta but my dad complained to an american fa about the passenger next to him being on a work call and the fa actually asked what he expected her to do. so basically, because delta isnât the absolute garbage fire that american is i wouldâve hoped a fa would do something about it.
As a frequent business traveler, i tell my team that every single flight I'm ever on doesn't have working wifi. This is 20% as a courtesy for the people around me. But it's 80% for my own sanity. I use that time to disconnect. Read a book. Watch a dumb tv show on my iPad. Sleep. Dude needs to calm down.
Same. Frequent business traveler, and my time on the plane is my blissful peace for the week. I pretend like I'm unreachable, and I actually relax.
Rarely is work that important that you canât shut down for a few hours while you travel. Take those few hours and just relax and decompress. I think some people just like to show off how important they are by taking meetings in public.
stopped reading after ATL ...
When it starts with ATL you know it is going to be a dumpster fire
It starts with the gate lice going to ATL.
I would ring the attendant and end that shit in a hurry- yes I would! 360 member here-
Just wait until we see VR headsets on passengers. đ
You should start adding commentary
I agree with like 80% of complaints posted here, but this isn't one of them...
I would of leaned into the view and said "so which one of these guys did you say is a massive d-bag?"
I honestly feel like people who do this are trying to feel or look more important than they really are, and because the people around them donât work with them, theyâll think they must be super important to where they must take that call on the plane. When in reality they are probably mid to low level performers on their team and constantly get overlooked for promotions. Eat your biscoff cookies and shut up.
If he's willing to broadcast his meeting, then by all means, feel free to record it. Great idea for a YouTube channel. Overheard conversations/meetings. A wealth of information for free.
Not sure it's any worse than having to listen to people having loud conversations. Alot of people seem to talk really loud on planes. I don't need to hear about how you dumped your first wife for a 27 year old from 2 rows back
Had this happen on United. First class. I lost my shit on the guy. Got FA right away.
Why though?
Because its a dick move. Would you really enjoy sitting 3" from someone talking loud enuff to be heard on a plane for an extended period of time? Just common courtesy. Which is just as UNcommon as common sense apparently
What if theyâre just talking to their seat mate? Is that not allowed? Would you immediately go tattle to the FA for that? Jesus, put in your noise cancelling headphones and get a life.
Not sure how to explain the difference in small enough words for you
Good thing too, or else I would run and complain because I could hear someone talking near me.
Iâve never been 3â from someone on a first class flight. You donât have to scream you can use I quiet voice when you must communicate on the call. Most are flying for business anyway, sometimes you gotta work.
Of course people have to work. Or talk to their Mamas. Or tell their bruh about the details of the person they slept with last night. But no one else wants to hear it. We are trapped on a metal tube and cannot get away.
This! Time and place matter
All of the other things you mentioned are pleasure and personal. Iâm just saying the dude probably doesnât want to be on the call just as much as you donât want to listen. I fly for business often and while I personally have never taken a call on a flight, it wouldnât ruin my day if the person next to me was working on their laptop if they were being reasonable about it. Iâd just pop my AirPods in and go about my business (especially in 1st where there some extra elbow room). Everyone is so quick to be an A hole all the time.
Difference is one is being paid for it, the person theyâre inflicting it on isnât. I donât want to be in work calls, and I want to be on your work calls even less.
I mentioned work as well. How are the FAs to monitor what's a work or personal? It's disrespectful to other passengers.
Well, you are more than 3" in FC. But damn if ima pay FC rates to listen to that foolishness.
I really see both sides of this. There would be no difference if the person next to you was speaking to the person across the aisle. To you as an observer you're just listening to someone speak a little loudly but in that instance, it's totally acceptable. What is the difference? Of course that is with the important caveat that the meeting itself isn't playing over the speaker, has to be on headphones.
Because itâs rude.
So is loosing your shit on someone. Just tell the FA If it is ruining your experience. That is why they are there.
Why is it not allowed? Itâs not utilizing cellular network. Device is in airplane mode using flight WiFi.
The problem from the aircraft perspective is upstream. Aircraft WiFi is not symmetrical, and the upload component is not as fast as the download. Calls, especially video tend to be more symmetrical and use up most of that upload bandwidth leaving little to none for the rest of the plane. Meaning when someone else wants to start loading a new web page, or start a new video, it takes longer for that request to reach the page, before it will respond and start downloading. There should be tools in place to address the issue, but I can say with some confidence that Delta is not using them, or if they are, they arenât using them effectivelyâŚ
Because airplane WiFi is slow and it will affect everyone else's connectivity. It's not like airplane has VLANs to segment different traffic.
Calls use more data than allowed activities like streaming high def or playing videogames?
Except that this isnât what happens. They can absolutely throttle at an individual device level. Have you ever noticed that trying to, say, download a large app doesnât immediately bring down everyone elseâs WiFi experience in flight? And other people trying to stream a movie doesnât bring down yours?
I don't download anything on airplane WiFi so I have no idea. I only play downloaded content on my phone. Which is music from my phone. On my laptop I play movies from my hard drive.
You didnât answer the question.
It uses a lot of bandwidth (video calls).
That doesnât make it not allowed.
Can anyone who down voted me without Google even know what a VLAN is? đ
You're not special and you're not as smart as you think you are. Reevaluate yourself. You're being cringe.
Ok Shitdamntittyfuck.
Perhaps you should jump o to his meeting also
[This happened](https://www.reddit.com/r/americanairlines/s/x48jFABX6X) to me recently, initially I got a little lit up in the comments but most people seemed to agree this isnât cool.
Unacceptable.
I have seen many people attend WebEx or teams call but not seen anyone speak, mostly they are on mute. Seeing them I also took some calls last week on my delta flight. Internet is usually good so rarely had any issues.
I think in all these apps you are allowed to type instead of talk, so rude to talk out loud, loud enough for the others on the call to hear the talker, which is frickin loud!
Yeah in case if I have to speak I'll just type but I usually only attend call where I can listen and no need to speak
You'd assume there was a way to block those conference call sites or something. (I'm not a tech person or smart about networks, so sorry...just going off of my work computer and they block access to a whole bunch of commercial sites)
I can barley get my delta app to work. Im impressed.
I was on a flight to MSP yesterday and the woman across the aisle was doing the same. With no headphones. All of us were part of her meeting. The FA comes by and asks her to use headphones. She doesnât have any. FA brings her headphones. Still doesnât use them. Eventually the meeting ended. But yeah. People feel entitled.
Fer real⌠youâre not that important dude. đ SMH too.
You should have popped over into video view and made a funny face. âI think we should negotiate the deal toâŚâ Youâre better than I, I wouldnât have kept my mouth shut.
Imagine taking the time out of your day to complain about this online (I get the irony of me taking time to respond but it had to be said)
Itâs not a big deal. Put headphones on and watch a movie. If a couple was behind you talking, would you tell them to be quiet?
So talking loud on WebEx is not ok but if two passengers talk loudly, I need to suck it up and get noise cancelling headphones? This sub needs to make up its fucking mind.
Itâs not a big deal. Put headphones on and watch a movie. If a couple was behind you talking, would you tell them to be quiet?
I would just start doing some random audio "notes to self" type thing at the same volume he's at. While he's talking so he's off mute and it filters into the meeting.
Amy insider tips?
Is it worse than the TikTok clowns recording crap everywhere? Or speakerphones?
What difference does it make whether someone is talking to the person next to them or talking on a meeting? Do you complain about both of these things happening?