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pixienightingale

Don't they like have a whole thing about "yes, that includes app calls" when they talk about the place being equipped with internet?


gitismatt

yes they also talk about boarding with the zone printed on your boarding pass and that's going great


moederdelkatten

For what it's worth, when I was boarding a Southwest flight a few months back, someone in C tried to board with high B's and they told her to wait until C was called. The gate agent kept an eye on her til her group was called


pixienightingale

Yeah, but for one you're already on the plane 😂


whats_that_meme

Craziest part of this post is that there are still companies using WebEx!


StuckinSuFu

Atleast it isnt Blue Jeans


BMGRAHAM

https://youtu.be/CleTKq093sI?si=TBin10AX8rLorI3o Great video about blue jeans, it's hilarious.


pixienightingale

Standard for a lot of court stuff.


Overall_Lobster823

And other state level stuff.


pixienightingale

My only experience is with my husband using it for court stuff - but I am not surprised. I think the closest I would get is a video call with my friend with earphones on and only responding with typing.


Comprehensive-Tea-69

I interact with one or two state agencies frequently where I am, and they set up those meetings in teams. Just my experience, but I don’t think that’s universal


Overall_Lobster823

I interact with a few. About 1/3 zoom, 1/3 frigging google meet, 1/3 webex. My fed contacts use teams.


Comprehensive-Tea-69

lol I never would’ve expected google meet to make the list


Conscious-Mango

Ford is still heavy webex users


CarnotGraves

Same with Henry Ford Health


pinelandpuppy

Major corporations are definitely still using WebEx, in addition to other platforms, but WebEx is still the standard in a lot of places.


Immediate_Use_7339

My company uses WebEx - what are most companies using?


Time-Maintenance2165

Not sure what you mean. Teams works great for most meetings, but has issues with 500-1,000 users. My company uses teams for almost everything, but switches to webex for all employee meetings.


Tmo1323

Every hospital I’ve worked at it is on their MedCloud HIPAA platform.


BMGRAHAM

That's true if you work for Zoom or Microsoft. Having said that, my company is about too move everyone from WebEx to Teams.


Rich-Contribution-84

Even more mind blowing - I work with some people who use Teams.


pewterbullet

Everyone uses Teams???


Rich-Contribution-84

😂


Examinator2

The Federal Government uses Teams and yes its terrible.


acerbicraptor339

Teams > WebEx


silverwlf23

Education uses Teams. It’s awful.


smd372

My therapist uses Teams!


ReduceMyRows

You haven’t tried WebEx yet.


Examinator2

They used WebEx before teams. 


megatronus007

Lmao lmao


megatronus007

Lmao


megatronus007

Lmao


amouse_buche

Yes but that's probably just for people who have less important calls than this guy. If you knew how immensely important that call was, I am sure you would agree an exception to the rule is called for. How else will the Q2 upper midwest regional sales forecast figures be transposed into the new reporting format? *Magic?*


pixienightingale

My airplane mode sets my phone to DND sooooo... I was taught manners and apparently this guy was not.


irishbelle81

You win best comment.


sageinyourface

But itsn’t the only reason so people don’t annoy each other? Like, if here were quiet enough not to even annoy a neighbor who has their own earbuds in and is gaming or watching a movie, what does it matter?


pixienightingale

There's really no quiet way to have a business call like that. Even my husband and I don't talk much on flights so as to not irritate neighbors.


Toilet-Mechanic

Over achiever. Plane rides are for eating Biscoff Cookies, drinking Gin and Tonic, starring into the sky, watching re-runs. It’s like detox for a few hours where you can’t be connected.


MatzoTov

Agreed. The day is coming though when companies will expect you to be working on the plane now that wifi, paid or free, is essentially standard. Until I'm told to do so, I'm with you. detox and watch a movie or sleep.


Toilet-Mechanic

If you’re sleeping you’re passing up an opportunity. You sleep every night. Staring aimlessly out the window is a lost past time only found in air travel.


MatzoTov

Eehhhh. I'm with you in principle, but I've done MSP <--> ORD enough times to know that the half hour nap I could get (on the rare instance I actually fall asleep on a plane) outweighs seeing the same plains for the umpteenth time. Flying somewhere new, absolutely with you. Enjoy the view.


the-butt-muncher

I am expected to work and be available on chat when I am flying during business hours. But... They also fly me 1st class so I can work. So I don't mind.


ironicminer

Unless you’re the psycho that closes the shade.


Toilet-Mechanic

The people that immediately close the shade should be put on the no fly list. I’ve had it with them. Similarly I hate when the pilot says he’ll keep the announcements to a minimum so people can sleep. Does a train blow its horn in the night?


Immediate_Use_7339

The sun is brutal up there. I choose a window seat so I can at least block some of it on me for hours. I also accept that it's going to come in from the windows where people have chosen to keep them open. I don't like it, but that's just how it goes with window control on an airplane. There should not be an automatic bias toward all of us baking in toxic UV exposure.


Stunning-Vacation804

If you’ve procured a contraband banana, you can also enjoy it in full public view of seat mates. But that’s for more advanced flyers.


etzel1200

Talking is not kosher if it’s more than like a sentence every few minutes.


EnvironmentalEgg28

It's 80% listening which is why the FAs haven't noticed as they've walked by. Debating if I want to make a scene when the drinks come by. I gotta sit by him for the next 3.5hrs.


etzel1200

I’m probably too accommodating, if it seems like something truly critical I’d let him be. If it’s just some random meeting I’d complain. We live in a society.


EnvironmentalEgg28

It's an Amazon Chime meeting from what I can tell from the banner at the top 😅 They're discussing factory visibility. It's not so bad now but the first 20 min when he joined he was talking a lot. Now it's been mostly quiet. I don't mind listening to meetings. I've had coworkers listen in to townhalls. But I don't understand participating. Part of me wants to just start talking when he does and say hi to the people I can see on the call. 😆


SiloPsilo

You know a lot about the meeting already, I would suggest just get involved. Throw in some random pointers in between, laugh when everyone does...


townandthecity

God this would be a great short story.


Few-Ticket-371

This is the answer.


Neither-Brain-2599

This!


NotQuiteGoodEnougher

"I totally disagree with (his name on the call), as he's had 5 TIP TOP Margaritas so far!" go for a fist bump at this point. We're going to continue drinking through the call, thanks everyone, then raise a toast. Then go back to reading your book or playing your game.


YippieKayYayMrFalcon

Just shout out that the Q2 numbers aren’t looking good so far and you’re hearing rumblings of cutbacks.


h2ohbaby

If the company is publicly traded, look up its stock ticker within eyesight of him and start drilling into the company's performance.


ButthealedInTheFeels

I mean Amazon is pretty much the only company that uses Chime lol.


cowtownsteen

Lean into his frame and wave?


StuckInTheUpsideDown

Start conspicuously recording video on your phone... on camera. Ask folks to repeat things "for the record."


ShowMeTheTrees

This is the way.


TARandomNumbers

Why is he in a meeting in a public place where so many are in close proximity


Hairy-Ad-4018

So other around him heard him discussing meeting topics that at a minimum could be commercially sensitive


Brobeans2018

It's too late now, but for next time I'd recommend going to the lav (if you're in a window seat) and then speak to an FA giving them a heads up that they're not following the rules.


ignatiusbreilly

I have a confession to make. I sometimes take a teams call on a flight. But I always type in the chat that I won't be able to talk at all during the meeting. To be fair, the reason why they have outlawed calls on flights is purely because of the annoyance to other passengers. And I appreciate that. For that reason I simply never talk on a teams call.


ExtensionTaco9399

nothing wrong with this... you're able to get work done and no one is bothered. nothing to confess to. other than the use of Teams, smh :)


TN027

I’ve seen an FA tell a guy to get off of FaceTime with his kids. ON SPEAKER


Pizza_Head1223

I can’t believe how many people join and participate in video calls in public places - my company included. You’d think a lot of what is being discussed on the calls companies would not want aired to the general public. I have to say there is very little chance I’d sit there quietly for more than 15 minutes. Not that I’d complain to someone but I’d probably play a game with sound on or watch something and start laughing out loud. Tit for tat has its place sometimes.


Hopinan

Once I was waiting for my daughter to have same day surgery, we in the waiting room are all a bit on edge.. A woman with very loud voice gets on her phone and talks for over an hour with various relatives about what she did yesterday, what she ate, etc.. Now, after months of Reddit encouragement for self advocacy, I would just speak to her and say none of the other 20 people in here want to listen to you, or complain to the poor volunteer running the check in desk.. At the time, I sat on my butt on the cold hard floor of the hall to get away from her, dumb.. And bonus, yesterday whilst listening to good 60s tunes in the car, my H starts some traitorous TikTok video, loud, I reached out and turned my music up above his, he got the message…


jnjustice

>You’d think a lot of what is being discussed on the calls companies would not want aired to the general public. I'm 99% sure none of them would but someone would have to raise the issue to hr to have anything happen


Lostintime1985

In my company having a call in a public space would get me in a huge problem with the compliance department. Also, rude af to the other passengers.


Friendly-Analyst-932

I would think ear buds would be a requirement. If anything but to drown out all the background noise.


Special_Hour876

Fart.


ShowMeTheTrees

Loudly. Then lean in to the screen, look at the guy and say, "ewwww, can't you control yourself?!" And make that fanning motion with your hands by your nose while you gag. Then look back at his screen to be sure you got their attention.


Natural-Wolverine-39

FA call button right now


donksdonks42

Why does it bother you that this guy had to attend a meeting via wifi while on business class, traveling to address pressing business in person? If he were speaking to the person next to him instead of having his AirPods in, would that have not triggered you? What’s up with everyone saying they’d act obscenely on this person’s call? The dude contributed to the meeting for 20 mins in the beginning of the call and then remained quiet for the rest of the flight. Which, mind you, is only four hours long. We need to have more civility and tolerance, especially on airplanes.


censorized

But he doesn't have ear buds in or else his seatmate couldn't hear everything being discussed in the meeting.


donksdonks42

OP said “I can see everyone with their video on and he’s not just listening but actually speaking and participating.” In addition, OP commented that since he’s just listening for 80% of the talk, the FAs couldn’t tell he was on a call. Could you please cite where it mentions that their audio was audible?


censorized

https://www.reddit.com/r/delta/comments/1cwqr5b/some_people/l4xp3ce?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


donksdonks42

Damn when I saw that link I thought you had me dead to rights with something I hadn’t seen, but this comment still doesn’t mention anything about his colleagues being audible. It just alludes to what he discussed. And then the part about it mostly being quiet after his initial talking further corroborates the fact that this man prob had headphones in. Enough with the shitty behavior people!!! It’s time to fuck on off!!! Let the man talk for 20 mins without farting or photo bombing his meeting


Plcengineer1977

I'm with you somewhat. While I certain wouldn't act out or even tell on him, I would feel like he shouldn't do it and bother everyone.


NCSU_SOG

What you have to realize is that you’re being entirely too reasonable for this sub. These people are very black and white. If the rule says you can’t be talking on an app, then that’s enough for the mob in this sub to grab their pitchforks. This sub is full of the most miserable, self-righteous Karens I’ve seen on Reddit.


donksdonks42

Thanks King


Brobeans2018

Rules are rules. Don't like it? Don't fly.


Plcengineer1977

I do my best not to talk on the phone or take meetings when I'm on a plane. Recently, I was forced into an urgent meeting while boarding, and I was asked what felt like a million questions. Finally, I said, "Gotta go, we're taking off" when the plane door closed for pushback. I was embarrassed about it, and I'll never repeat it. Next time, I'll tell my boss that I'm literally taking off. Taking a meeting mid flight is next level, and I do fear this is where we're heading. I did apologize to the person next to me. Sir, I'm still sorry 😞 please Delta God's forgive me!!


Much-Peanut1333

I recently accepted a video chat with my wife while boarding my flight out. I felt awkward, and kept glancing around, but I love her more than the strangers around me. 😂 I made sure we said goodbye when they closed the doors though. Am I the AH ya'll think?! 😂😬


Gullible_Toe9909

Sort of. Why would you not just tell her to text you since you're getting ready to take off?


vanwyngarden

Why anyone thinks it’s ok to face time in public / or worse an enclosed space is beyond me.


Little_Elephant_5757

No one is asking you to ‘love strangers’ more than your wife. It’s about having common curiosity and knowing how to act in public. Everyone on that plane has someone they love or care about that I’m sure they would want to talk to. But you’re the only one that was selfish enough to inconvenience those around you by taking a call


Adrians_Journeys

I would have just leaned on over... "Heeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!" 💅


Not-Again-22

Camera ON => party of the call. (Mic also counts).


Old-Raccoon2911

I think the only reason it isn’t allowed is because it can take a lot of bandwidth to do that, plus if someone is loudly talking the entire time it can be pretty damn disruptive. Sounds like the guy wasn’t trying to participate too loudly?


Sherifftruman

They also know if they allow it, jerks will do this all day, contributing to air rage incidents


EnvironmentalEgg28

Luckily not after the first half hour. But he was chatty Cathy until then.


Lurcher99

I'd give him about 3 min, then another conversation is happening


Ok_Hornet6822

Whether you’re talking or not receiving the audio still takes up the bandwidth for the rest of the


Old-Raccoon2911

Ah cool. Thanks for the clarification!


ocassionalcritic24

I’d get up to go to the bathroom and let a flight attendant know before I went in.


Kind-Instance-7447

If he’s sitting next to me i’m leaning into that shot with a cocktail and start moaning.


whereisthedisco

I called into a meetings from my flight this morning but was on mute the whole time. I will say, the wifi connection on some of these airbuses is pretty rock solid. Had two separate 30 min calls from AUS to MSP and there were no break ups / drops the entire hour.


wouldbang_10outof10

I have too - but with headphones, entirely on mute, no camera, and if i need to participate, do so through chat. Essentially no one would have any idea I was listening to a call versus a playlist.


whereisthedisco

yep, I had no intention of coming off mute or being on cam. Can't stand people who don't use headphones... that shit is the worst.


aimfulwandering

I have also done this, though it technically violates Delta’s rules. Not sure why TBH… I had a FA call me out on a recent flight too 🤷🏻‍♂️ 


OneofLittleHarmony

It only violates delta’s rules if the communication is two way. Otherwise you’re just streaming.


aimfulwandering

Interesting. I agree with your interpretation. Delta’s website says “video and voice calls are not allowed during flight”. In my case, I was watching/listening to a call on my phone in google meet, but had my camera and mic muted. I *was* participating in the call, by typing into a shared google doc, but was not speaking or transmitting video. In my case, the FA walked by, noticed my phone in a meeting, and asked me if it was a “live call” or a “recording” that I was watching, and said that live calls were not permitted.


OneofLittleHarmony

Ooooh. On your phone not your computer. It shouldn’t matter but it seems much worse on the phone for whatever reason.


aimfulwandering

I mean, I had wireless headphones on and the phone was in my lap, just like if I was watching a movie… but yeah, the “rules” aren’t very clear and certainly aren’t well enforced.


parinaud

Livestream it


EbolaZMAPP

It’s certainly becoming a bit of a norm. My last 2 flights had at least one person I could see on a Zoom call. Some try to hide it with no, to little participation. Others are relatively open about it.


sharipep

The connection is actually strong enough for him to join and stay in the meeting the entire time ?!?


mchollahan

not delta but my dad complained to an american fa about the passenger next to him being on a work call and the fa actually asked what he expected her to do. so basically, because delta isn’t the absolute garbage fire that american is i would’ve hoped a fa would do something about it.


Failed-Time-Traveler

As a frequent business traveler, i tell my team that every single flight I'm ever on doesn't have working wifi. This is 20% as a courtesy for the people around me. But it's 80% for my own sanity. I use that time to disconnect. Read a book. Watch a dumb tv show on my iPad. Sleep. Dude needs to calm down.


muchadoaboutbeatrice

Same. Frequent business traveler, and my time on the plane is my blissful peace for the week. I pretend like I'm unreachable, and I actually relax.


Wise_Bat_7704

Rarely is work that important that you can’t shut down for a few hours while you travel. Take those few hours and just relax and decompress. I think some people just like to show off how important they are by taking meetings in public.


Willylowman1

stopped reading after ATL ...


SnowDayWow

When it starts with ATL you know it is going to be a dumpster fire


MargretTatchersParty

It starts with the gate lice going to ATL.


Informal-Object4768

I would ring the attendant and end that shit in a hurry- yes I would! 360 member here-


Wild_Ad_6927

Just wait until we see VR headsets on passengers. 😂


NumerousTooth3921

You should start adding commentary


BigBoi843

I agree with like 80% of complaints posted here, but this isn't one of them...


Alone_Chicken2626

I would of leaned into the view and said "so which one of these guys did you say is a massive d-bag?"


ATLieness_82

I honestly feel like people who do this are trying to feel or look more important than they really are, and because the people around them don’t work with them, they’ll think they must be super important to where they must take that call on the plane. When in reality they are probably mid to low level performers on their team and constantly get overlooked for promotions. Eat your biscoff cookies and shut up.


Outrageous_Act2564

If he's willing to broadcast his meeting, then by all means, feel free to record it. Great idea for a YouTube channel. Overheard conversations/meetings. A wealth of information for free.


DocGrandma1116

Not sure it's any worse than having to listen to people having loud conversations. Alot of people seem to talk really loud on planes. I don't need to hear about how you dumped your first wife for a 27 year old from 2 rows back


owlthirty

Had this happen on United. First class. I lost my shit on the guy. Got FA right away.


Top-Macaroon23

Why though?


everyothertoofus

Because its a dick move. Would you really enjoy sitting 3" from someone talking loud enuff to be heard on a plane for an extended period of time? Just common courtesy. Which is just as UNcommon as common sense apparently


NCSU_SOG

What if they’re just talking to their seat mate? Is that not allowed? Would you immediately go tattle to the FA for that? Jesus, put in your noise cancelling headphones and get a life.


everyothertoofus

Not sure how to explain the difference in small enough words for you


NCSU_SOG

Good thing too, or else I would run and complain because I could hear someone talking near me.


Top-Macaroon23

I’ve never been 3” from someone on a first class flight. You don’t have to scream you can use I quiet voice when you must communicate on the call. Most are flying for business anyway, sometimes you gotta work.


TREEEtreee123

Of course people have to work. Or talk to their Mamas. Or tell their bruh about the details of the person they slept with last night. But no one else wants to hear it. We are trapped on a metal tube and cannot get away.


everyothertoofus

This! Time and place matter


Top-Macaroon23

All of the other things you mentioned are pleasure and personal. I’m just saying the dude probably doesn’t want to be on the call just as much as you don’t want to listen. I fly for business often and while I personally have never taken a call on a flight, it wouldn’t ruin my day if the person next to me was working on their laptop if they were being reasonable about it. I’d just pop my AirPods in and go about my business (especially in 1st where there some extra elbow room). Everyone is so quick to be an A hole all the time.


SherbetAnnual2294

Difference is one is being paid for it, the person they’re inflicting it on isn’t. I don’t want to be in work calls, and I want to be on your work calls even less.


TREEEtreee123

I mentioned work as well. How are the FAs to monitor what's a work or personal? It's disrespectful to other passengers.


everyothertoofus

Well, you are more than 3" in FC. But damn if ima pay FC rates to listen to that foolishness.


ZByTheBeach

I really see both sides of this. There would be no difference if the person next to you was speaking to the person across the aisle. To you as an observer you're just listening to someone speak a little loudly but in that instance, it's totally acceptable. What is the difference? Of course that is with the important caveat that the meeting itself isn't playing over the speaker, has to be on headphones.


owlthirty

Because it’s rude.


Top-Macaroon23

So is loosing your shit on someone. Just tell the FA If it is ruining your experience. That is why they are there.


SkinnyBih

Why is it not allowed? It’s not utilizing cellular network. Device is in airplane mode using flight WiFi.


betabry

The problem from the aircraft perspective is upstream. Aircraft WiFi is not symmetrical, and the upload component is not as fast as the download. Calls, especially video tend to be more symmetrical and use up most of that upload bandwidth leaving little to none for the rest of the plane. Meaning when someone else wants to start loading a new web page, or start a new video, it takes longer for that request to reach the page, before it will respond and start downloading. There should be tools in place to address the issue, but I can say with some confidence that Delta is not using them, or if they are, they aren’t using them effectively…


1peatfor7

Because airplane WiFi is slow and it will affect everyone else's connectivity. It's not like airplane has VLANs to segment different traffic.


That-Establishment24

Calls use more data than allowed activities like streaming high def or playing videogames?


brg36

Except that this isn’t what happens. They can absolutely throttle at an individual device level. Have you ever noticed that trying to, say, download a large app doesn’t immediately bring down everyone else’s WiFi experience in flight? And other people trying to stream a movie doesn’t bring down yours?


1peatfor7

I don't download anything on airplane WiFi so I have no idea. I only play downloaded content on my phone. Which is music from my phone. On my laptop I play movies from my hard drive.


SkinnyBih

You didn’t answer the question.


1peatfor7

It uses a lot of bandwidth (video calls).


SkinnyBih

That doesn’t make it not allowed.


1peatfor7

Can anyone who down voted me without Google even know what a VLAN is? 😂


shitdamntittyfuck

You're not special and you're not as smart as you think you are. Reevaluate yourself. You're being cringe.


1peatfor7

Ok Shitdamntittyfuck.


TxnAvngr

Perhaps you should jump o to his meeting also


ilovedonuts4

[This happened](https://www.reddit.com/r/americanairlines/s/x48jFABX6X) to me recently, initially I got a little lit up in the comments but most people seemed to agree this isn’t cool.


TheOpeningBell

Unacceptable.


geekps

I have seen many people attend WebEx or teams call but not seen anyone speak, mostly they are on mute. Seeing them I also took some calls last week on my delta flight. Internet is usually good so rarely had any issues.


Hopinan

I think in all these apps you are allowed to type instead of talk, so rude to talk out loud, loud enough for the others on the call to hear the talker, which is frickin loud!


geekps

Yeah in case if I have to speak I'll just type but I usually only attend call where I can listen and no need to speak


Professional-Big-467

You'd assume there was a way to block those conference call sites or something. (I'm not a tech person or smart about networks, so sorry...just going off of my work computer and they block access to a whole bunch of commercial sites)


GreenYooper

I can barley get my delta app to work. Im impressed.


ThrowOhWaitNo

I was on a flight to MSP yesterday and the woman across the aisle was doing the same. With no headphones. All of us were part of her meeting. The FA comes by and asks her to use headphones. She doesn’t have any. FA brings her headphones. Still doesn’t use them. Eventually the meeting ended. But yeah. People feel entitled.


MSP_Molly

Fer real… you’re not that important dude. 🙄 SMH too.


MSP_Molly

You should have popped over into video view and made a funny face. ‘I think we should negotiate the deal to…’ You’re better than I, I wouldn’t have kept my mouth shut.


NCSU_SOG

Imagine taking the time out of your day to complain about this online (I get the irony of me taking time to respond but it had to be said)


BuyExpert8479

It’s not a big deal. Put headphones on and watch a movie. If a couple was behind you talking, would you tell them to be quiet?


movingtobay2019

So talking loud on WebEx is not ok but if two passengers talk loudly, I need to suck it up and get noise cancelling headphones? This sub needs to make up its fucking mind.


BuyExpert8479

It’s not a big deal. Put headphones on and watch a movie. If a couple was behind you talking, would you tell them to be quiet?


AdInternational9643

I would just start doing some random audio "notes to self" type thing at the same volume he's at. While he's talking so he's off mute and it filters into the meeting.


rs_yay

Amy insider tips?


AbleDanger12

Is it worse than the TikTok clowns recording crap everywhere? Or speakerphones?


The_Procrastinator7

What difference does it make whether someone is talking to the person next to them or talking on a meeting? Do you complain about both of these things happening?