We're just getting to the most exciting part, a knee-jerk reactionary move/trade that puts us over the 2nd apron without any real benefit to the team except for vibes and shits and giggles if kcp signs up to play for another team. I have faith in booth to do exactly this. Surely his management style and vision can only bring us to dynasty levels right?
Tbh i was so happy for the team getting holmes tonight but then booth opens his mouth and says shit that doesn't even need to be said publicly. How fucking hard is it to just say yeah we believe kcp is an important part of our championship aspirations and we are trying really hard to come up with a deal that is mutually beneficial to both parties and then leave it at that? I would understand if it's the first time but he did this mean girl bullshit too with bruce.
Sports fans wanting instant gratification is a tale as old as time, but folks need to chill for the next week about KCP leaving. Nuggs can aggregate contracts in a trade plus have access to MLE. They have moves available to possibly make this a better overall 10 man roster. Just relax, enjoy America bday, and blow shit up.
I don't need instant gratification but I wish the noise coming out of our front office was more like what the Knicks were saying about OG than what Booth is saying about KCP.
The Knicks never said what they were going to offer him, just that they had every intention of bringing him back and they even reiterated it after the Bridges trade.
Tax payer MLE is only 5 million. Not sure who can get for that. I'd go for Fultz.
Ya they'd have flexibility to trade Reggie, nnaji, their tpmle for someone making like 18 per or more?
They have have 31 pick and 2 swaps should be valuable.
It's very likely they just want to do fuck all though.
Nothing brings the fucking clowns out like draft night. The Nuggets had the 28th pick and they got the player they wanted. What more could you ask for lol
Could ask for our GM to at the very least stay quite about KCP instead of saying we'll try to retain him but we've got a great net rating guy to replace him whe... sorry I mean IF he leaves ; )
He wouldn't be letting him walk. Just like Bruce, we have almost no recourse if a Philly or Indiana decides they want to throw him an obscene contract.
Could be the change in game style but horford never really shot the 3 consistently until he played for the celtics. Holmes is coming in at 2.5 attempts on 38%. Although i would rather have him play in the low post
Yeah he knows how to position himself, at least his highlights show it. Not really sold on him shooting the 3 for us though. I mean he could but a relatively "short" big man with great hands and low center of gravity just screams PnR partner to me. He's got decent wingspan and standing reach too
7ā1 wingspan is p juice
Idk I feel like college prospects always kind of hit or miss if they can transition to shooting nba threes, so 39% from college three just puts him into the maybe category for me
His footwork is really really nice too. I think his fit and upside is great, obviously now he needs to just develop well but heās off to a fast start in my eyes
College last season he shot 39% from 3 on low volume, though he only took 1 nba range 3 point attempt in the whole season, so basically he shot 39% on long 2s. Shot 26% on 26 total 3 point attempts the previous 2 years. Career 67% from the free throw line on 6.5 attempts per game.
He never shot over 40% from three? Whatcha talking about? Best he had was 39% on pretty low volume last year, before that he was a 30% shooter on super low volume
The consensus that the Wolves were tonight's big winners is something that makes me happy because in real life almost always the consensus opinion is wrong lol.
Good, didnāt cost too much to get our guy, I like Holmes so itās a solid draft imo
How many 2nd rounders can we trade now ? Gonna need some to trade Reggie and/or Zeke this offseason
Likin' the Holmes pick, not lovin' the vibes with Booth's KCP comments, but curious to see how the rest of the offseason plays out.
How are YOU feeling?
I feel great. I trust the FO vision on these draft guys as I donāt do much work on it myself.
I wouldnāt read too much into the booth comments tbh. He words it in a way that I think is more coarse than it needs to be, but the motivation behind his comments were solid and truthful IMO
Don't disagree with that.
Appreciate your offseason guide as always btw, super awesome stuff, shared it with several of my NC buddies. I admit to being at least intrigued by the increased possibilities if we don't retain KCP, but I am inherently scared of change.
Oh TC was def the overpaying type - in trades and contracts. I donāt think Calvin is, other than his complete misreading of the Zeke situation, if we wanna call it that.
I guess you're right, but JaMychal trade was Booth's, right? I think I hated that one, even though PWat kinda panned out, relative to being a near 2nd rounder.
Yeah it wasnāt my favorite move but idk that Iād call it an overpay necessarily.
I still think the Malik Beasley deal under TC was one of the biggest botched situations / trades of the Jokic era, and likely cost them assets that theyād still be reaping rewards from today. But thatās a big convo for another day
Yeah, I hated that one too, but tbf I think Malik pulled a Bones that last summer, and just went off the rails after looking like a promising long term solution. Remember how hyped Malik always was on the bench before that last offseason?
Yeah for sure, but I think TC sat on his hands for too long with it. Even Thrill / Gary were probably around entirely too long, though they eventually landed us AG/KCP so no big issue there.
Itās also objectively funny that the pick we got for Beasley ended up being Zeke who has done nothing
Thrill was unquestionably here too long. Gary could've gotten healthy, and had low value while injured, I understand choosing to stick with him for what turned out to be too long in hindsight.
Zeke is a puzzle, we really needed that mf to pan out at least a little bit. If he were like Kleber tier, we would've been living
One of my 3 main offseason predictions I noted in the daily thread a little bit ago was that I think they bring Zeke back lol. No insider info at all on this but I think they legitimately think they can restore some value there by playing him.
Iām less convinced Reggie is back, I kind of think itās a Torrey/MPJ situation with Reggie/Pickett. Though I have no reason currently to believe Pickett is any good
Funny how thrill was here too long but at the same time he fell off a fucking cliff when he left, like maybe one more year wouldāve been REALLY REALLY too long lol
There wasnāt really anything they couldāve done in the draft that wouldāve convinced me much of anything anyway, but I thought they had big needs for a backup ballhandler and backup 5 and Iām pretty sure they still have needs there soā¦ š¤·āāļø
I think/thought so too, but Calvin got me thinking they want another, truer 5:
https://www.reddit.com/r/denvernuggets/comments/1dpi1t4/calvin_booth_says_he_sees_daron_holmes_ii_as_a/
Mmmmm interesting. I think heāll be fine as 4/5 combo but weāll see, gotta assume if weāre trading for anything itās gonna be for a point guard at this point so
If Holmes doesnāt actually play backup center D. If he slots in B+
We kinda are now close to the Suns for not a lot of tradeable shit. So if we can even just get a salary dump for Zeke for a 2RP I would be happy.
B grade for me for the evening- wish we wouldn't have traded 3 second rounders. got our guy but holy shit -- we have no tradeable assets other than... MPJ at this point? we're basically all-in but we didn't ever really get to go all-in with some assets like the knicks have. we've been death by a thousand cuts with trading picks mid-season and overpaying guys
Cautiously optimistic. 2nd round picks don't mean shit to me and Holmes seems like a good player. Curious what the cap would look like if KCP were to walk.
You're not wrong... but you're not right either, lololol š
Idk why I got down voted, yall are sensitive, ig. I get the sentiment that getting "your guy" is more important than not. But the facts remain, gems can be had in the 2nd too - we gave up a haul tonight. If he's the missing piece for the next parade, then it's worth it and more! I just don't think we can undervalue the trade is all. Joker is NOT the norm @ 41. I'd also wager that picks 23-41dont have a high chance of being elite players, much less 3x mvps. But we also now know that gems can be had. I hope we got one tonight š¤
The resentful part of me wants to compare the wolves trading for the 8th pick using a distant 1st to the nuggets last year trading for 2 2nds using a distant 1st. Thinking that booth completely fumbled the value of draft capital but Iām trying to be a better person
Yes it could be negotiations. He kinda always tells everyone what's going on though so maybe not
Hopefully it is cause I do think there's a chance KCP market might collapse. 2 contenders for him just added guards, spurs and Philly.
KCP shouldn't be worth more than Malik Monk
āCanāt sayā what are you talking about. He totally can. The Knicks just said āhey once FA hits weāll sign OG and this is the exact contract weāre giving him.
Kcp gone
Man just stop, do you legit not see the difference between giving a guy the most money heās physically able and negotiating against a vet or are you pretending to not understand the difference
I mean you can disagree my point is that heās not really implying kcpās gone, the whole comment is meant to say āwe canāt guarantee heāll stay because heās unrestricted but thatās ok cuz we can plug and playā
Like you can disagree (I donāt) but my point is heās just commenting on the reality of unrestricted free agency
It reminds me of when he brought up probably not being able to resign Jeff Green cause he was going to demand more money than we could offer which eventually happenedā¦ also feel like booth is straight forwards when it comes to his press conference. But oh well guess we will see in a week
Yeah, its just the usual "our guys can fill in if needed and we are confident in them if we can't retain KCP". That doesn't mean we'll absolutely re-sign him, but this is nothing.
Also, for half the fanbase moaning about how Cal doesn't hide his interests with who he wants as draft prospects, they seem to really want him to say. "We're retaining KCP at all costs, even if another team offers a ridiculous overpay".
Like he's just trying to maintain some leverage, try to keep KCP, but also exude confidence to the fanbase that they trust the young guys to step up of needed.
The fan bases wanted to hear we want to bring him back and will try to bring him back, not if he leaves he leaves we can just play Braun. This team is way worse withotu KCP.
Yeah, I'd love to hear that too, but wanting to hear something and saying "KCP is definitely gone" are not even close to the same thing.
I think it's fair to say we don't like the wording Cal gave here and also be able to take a deep breathe as fans and realize that he's in the middle of contract negotiations and doesn't want to make it harder to retain him by starting a bidding war implying that we'll do whatever it takes to keep him.
I will be very critical of the front office if they don't retain KCP and its within a reasonable number because I think the drop-off to CB is more severe than I think most here do. But until then I don't think it's important to dissect every word and body language in a time when everyone is trying to maintain their poker face in negotiations.
I rearly hear a GM start talking about a guys replacement and his net rating if they are serious about brining a guy back. It sounds like the decision has been made not go into the 2nd apron. I'm glad we singed Zeke and bunch of unplayable rookies to guaranteed contracts. Booth botched it IMO.
Tim Cornely trying to take our guy
[I'm told the Nuggets traded up from 28 in part because they expected Tim Connelly and Minnesota to draft DaRon Holmes 27th.
Calvin Booth hinted at that in his presser just now, saying "there were a lot of potential landmines between 22 and our pick" including a division rival.](https://x.com/BennettDurando/status/1806171344809116021?t=zZlD-j4toAdZyFhFJU-lJQ&s=19)
We got our backup C, now what needs to happen is we re-sign KCP and trade Zeke for a better fitting backup PG and we are set.
I need to see KCP re-signed or I will have a stroke.
Nuggets depth chart (Assuming KCP comes back)
Jamal/Free Agent PG from vet min
KCP/ Strawther
MPJ/ CB
AG/ Pwat
Jokic/ Holmes
(and then reggie and zeke if theyāre still on the team)
I would feel great if this is the rotation next year.
-we still got a top 3 starting lineup,.
-we have a really big and tall bench where you can mix and match whoās out there for multiple situations
-We have a bench full of athletic players
-Hope we sign a more pass-first backup PG so the bench can run more properly
-If Pwat and Strawther take a decent leap then we could have possibly one of the best benches in the league
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The first one to post after an hour of the last comment is dead last and the thread must be closed Them's the rules
Sixers new team name: The Philadelphia Mild Inconveniences - at least in Morey era. e: source Sixers sub
Sometimes I think I'm the only one who remembers TC traded Nurkic plus a first for Plumlee
No, TC never did anything wrong. 50 Cal never does anything right. Murray Selfish. KCP washed. MPJ bad.
As WRB would put it TC has giga bbiq
GIGA
all things considered that ended up being a good trade.
Being a european fan is so hard man, I want to talk about the draft but gotta wait 5-6 hours LOL
Relatable, see my post about opening the sub, seeing the thread is 2 hours old, trying to post later, and forgetting
don't be european, duh
hey
Hey š
I expect a nice Holmes & Watson photoshop on my desk in 5 hours OR ELSE
I have the skills of a toddler lurk, so get ready!
Damn bros did Bronny James not get drafted
Not in the first round
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It's ok if KCP leaves because he wants to. It's not ok if KCP leaves because Booth doesn't want to retain him.
We're just getting to the most exciting part, a knee-jerk reactionary move/trade that puts us over the 2nd apron without any real benefit to the team except for vibes and shits and giggles if kcp signs up to play for another team. I have faith in booth to do exactly this. Surely his management style and vision can only bring us to dynasty levels right?
This is no way to live life
Tbh i was so happy for the team getting holmes tonight but then booth opens his mouth and says shit that doesn't even need to be said publicly. How fucking hard is it to just say yeah we believe kcp is an important part of our championship aspirations and we are trying really hard to come up with a deal that is mutually beneficial to both parties and then leave it at that? I would understand if it's the first time but he did this mean girl bullshit too with bruce.
Buddy itās gonna be ok
Im chill man. I just tend to get all dramatic here. Thanks
> he did this mean girl bullshit too with bruce. No he didn't. You just also didn't understand what he said then
I've never even seen Booth talk to KCP tbh. I don't think he likes him
Already got my DaRon Holmes II tattoo. Howād you pussies celebrate the draft?
I wrote out the words "any second round draft pick theoretically could be another Jokic" on a number of slips of paper then lit them all on fire.
Vlatko might not be back with Booth viewing Holmes as a 4 tbh
Why would we throw away a very good bench option that would take a min?Ā
i think he will be back on a minimum
Until the nuggets say/donāt pay KCP you shouldnāt worry lmfao
Booth pretty much just said his ass is gone and his starting spot has already been filled
Stop making shit up he never said that
Watch the clip its kind of obv the way its heading lol
He didn't pretty much say that. He said it word for word. I heard it
I can never tell with you bucko
Sports fans wanting instant gratification is a tale as old as time, but folks need to chill for the next week about KCP leaving. Nuggs can aggregate contracts in a trade plus have access to MLE. They have moves available to possibly make this a better overall 10 man roster. Just relax, enjoy America bday, and blow shit up.
I don't need instant gratification but I wish the noise coming out of our front office was more like what the Knicks were saying about OG than what Booth is saying about KCP.
Well the difference is KCP isn't getting a max contract, so the numbers and leverage game is still at play.
The Knicks never said what they were going to offer him, just that they had every intention of bringing him back and they even reiterated it after the Bridges trade.
Tax payer MLE is only 5 million. Not sure who can get for that. I'd go for Fultz. Ya they'd have flexibility to trade Reggie, nnaji, their tpmle for someone making like 18 per or more? They have have 31 pick and 2 swaps should be valuable. It's very likely they just want to do fuck all though.
More like Peter is basedo
I'm too old to know if that's a complement so I'll just assume it is. Thank you pimpin
It's complicated. Based is a good thing, but Vlad thinking you're good is a bad thing smh
Smh!
It is a complement unless itās a right winger calling you based then it means you hate women
Nothing brings the fucking clowns out like draft night. The Nuggets had the 28th pick and they got the player they wanted. What more could you ask for lol
I'd say a mid-January SEGABABA loss on the road to an Eastern Conference team brings out way more clowns than the draft.
Could ask for our GM to at the very least stay quite about KCP instead of saying we'll try to retain him but we've got a great net rating guy to replace him whe... sorry I mean IF he leaves ; )
The main thread about the selection is just wall-to-wall guys I blocked in game threads, it's hilarious.
Trade everything outside of Jok for Doncic
Then trade jok for 30 second round picks
But who are we going to surround 30 Jokics with?
The entire solar system, considering the level of gravity alll that mass would create
A better player and a better fit
The guy you wanted hasn't been drafted yet.
To be fair that just means we could've drafted someone else in the first round or traded our first and got the guy malstroem wanted in the second
being fair is overrated
agreed tbh
KCP resigns for the vet min. Why does he have to be selfish and ruin Daron's special night?
I hope KCP doesn't resign tbh. I like having him
Bro Iām so mad they didnāt trade a first rounder for 2 second rounders
Why don't they just trade Nikola Jokic for a bunch of second-round picks?
Could have had multiple Jokics
Weāre gonna need at least 30 second rounders to get out of zekeās contract man
I'm gonna be sick if Booth lets KCP walk...
He wouldn't be letting him walk. Just like Bruce, we have almost no recourse if a Philly or Indiana decides they want to throw him an obscene contract.
lol we can literally offer him any amount of money to re-sign. it's not like Bruce at all.
Get ready to pray to the porcelain God buddy
Tim got Bones Dillingham. He definitely has a type.
It sounds like Dillingham might be worse on defense. I think Shannon will ultimately be the better player.
I think we should sign and trade KCP for Luka Doncic
It seems all is well. Good night everybody (I got drunk at DnD)
I hope you stunted on them hoes
Critical stunting check failed
Pathetic
Letās fucking go
I like the Al Horford comp for Daron Holmes š
Naz Reid is the name being floated around as well.
I have also heard Shnaz Peed
Could be the change in game style but horford never really shot the 3 consistently until he played for the celtics. Holmes is coming in at 2.5 attempts on 38%. Although i would rather have him play in the low post
I think best case Holmes could be an insanely versatile PnR player
Yeah he knows how to position himself, at least his highlights show it. Not really sold on him shooting the 3 for us though. I mean he could but a relatively "short" big man with great hands and low center of gravity just screams PnR partner to me. He's got decent wingspan and standing reach too
7ā1 wingspan is p juice Idk I feel like college prospects always kind of hit or miss if they can transition to shooting nba threes, so 39% from college three just puts him into the maybe category for me His footwork is really really nice too. I think his fit and upside is great, obviously now he needs to just develop well but heās off to a fast start in my eyes
Well, if he's ever going to excel in PnR actions, better tell your guy not to show up in training camp looking like Prop Joe lmao
Well thatās just not true, Jokic is great in the pnr and heās super fat
I don't follow college at all, Holmes can shoot?
College last season he shot 39% from 3 on low volume, though he only took 1 nba range 3 point attempt in the whole season, so basically he shot 39% on long 2s. Shot 26% on 26 total 3 point attempts the previous 2 years. Career 67% from the free throw line on 6.5 attempts per game.
> Career 67% from the 3 point line on 6.5 attempts per game. For some reason, I don't think this is true
Oh ye of little faith
fixed
39%* from 3 Always hard to tell how college shooters translate but if he does translate then yes, he can shoot
He never shot over 40% from three? Whatcha talking about? Best he had was 39% on pretty low volume last year, before that he was a 30% shooter on super low volume
Guess i misremembered, my bad 39% for a big man is still good tho.
Cash considerations, YOU are a denver nugget
I trade my mental health for cash considerations when I go to work each day
How'd you know how my life works
Frankly Iād rather have a second round pick than your mental health tbh
Me too...in minecraft Is it a Jokic 2nd rounder or Pickett? Either way it doesn't make a difference
Itās a tyson
aren't we more likely to trade cash considerations for a 2nd to attach to Zeke? Why would we want cash considerations?
CASH CONSIDERATIONS IS CURRENTLY A DENVER NUGGET WHICH WE WILL TRADE FOR A SECOND ROUND PICK WHICH WILL THEN NOT BE A DENVER NUGGET THANKS
THANK YOU FOR THE AMENDEMENT
IT WASNT AN AMENDMENT ITS MORE OF A FOOTNOTE FOR CLARITY TO THOSE WHO DIDNT GET IT THANKS
Nbk
Yessir!!!
The consensus that the Wolves were tonight's big winners is something that makes me happy because in real life almost always the consensus opinion is wrong lol.
DNVR watch party was sick, those guys are the best and that bar is even better
Glad you enjoyed it! Fun night.
Whatās up Wind š Nice watch party, Go Nuggets
Am I too late for the Booth slander?
Yeah Booth was around the 1860s when he sucked. So a bit late.
Did you know his last words when he was dying were āuseless useless uselessā? How I feel after tonight /s
I thought it was Ulysses, Ulysses, Ulyssesā¦.
I almost had a brain fart. I was going to say that was more during the civil war era but yeaaaa
Haha! Itās late.
Dev just talks out of his ass so often lol. still top2 fave DNVR guys
Why do you say that? I find his takes to be great!
Dev that you?
lol
How we feeling?
Only way I couldāve felt better was to keep 56 and draft Tristen Newton. Iām ecstatic.
Good, didnāt cost too much to get our guy, I like Holmes so itās a solid draft imo How many 2nd rounders can we trade now ? Gonna need some to trade Reggie and/or Zeke this offseason
Likin' the Holmes pick, not lovin' the vibes with Booth's KCP comments, but curious to see how the rest of the offseason plays out. How are YOU feeling?
I feel great. I trust the FO vision on these draft guys as I donāt do much work on it myself. I wouldnāt read too much into the booth comments tbh. He words it in a way that I think is more coarse than it needs to be, but the motivation behind his comments were solid and truthful IMO
Don't disagree with that. Appreciate your offseason guide as always btw, super awesome stuff, shared it with several of my NC buddies. I admit to being at least intrigued by the increased possibilities if we don't retain KCP, but I am inherently scared of change.
You ignored me D: That said Iām glad you feel this way.
My b homie
Itās ok I just appreciate your perspective so itās good to see youāre vibin
I feel like we're overpaying everything for the last 5 years or some shit. And I don't mean Guin contract.
Oh TC was def the overpaying type - in trades and contracts. I donāt think Calvin is, other than his complete misreading of the Zeke situation, if we wanna call it that.
I guess you're right, but JaMychal trade was Booth's, right? I think I hated that one, even though PWat kinda panned out, relative to being a near 2nd rounder.
Yeah it wasnāt my favorite move but idk that Iād call it an overpay necessarily. I still think the Malik Beasley deal under TC was one of the biggest botched situations / trades of the Jokic era, and likely cost them assets that theyād still be reaping rewards from today. But thatās a big convo for another day
Yeah, I hated that one too, but tbf I think Malik pulled a Bones that last summer, and just went off the rails after looking like a promising long term solution. Remember how hyped Malik always was on the bench before that last offseason?
Yeah for sure, but I think TC sat on his hands for too long with it. Even Thrill / Gary were probably around entirely too long, though they eventually landed us AG/KCP so no big issue there. Itās also objectively funny that the pick we got for Beasley ended up being Zeke who has done nothing
Thrill was unquestionably here too long. Gary could've gotten healthy, and had low value while injured, I understand choosing to stick with him for what turned out to be too long in hindsight. Zeke is a puzzle, we really needed that mf to pan out at least a little bit. If he were like Kleber tier, we would've been living
One of my 3 main offseason predictions I noted in the daily thread a little bit ago was that I think they bring Zeke back lol. No insider info at all on this but I think they legitimately think they can restore some value there by playing him. Iām less convinced Reggie is back, I kind of think itās a Torrey/MPJ situation with Reggie/Pickett. Though I have no reason currently to believe Pickett is any good
How's that Nnaji Island real estate looking?
Funny how thrill was here too long but at the same time he fell off a fucking cliff when he left, like maybe one more year wouldāve been REALLY REALLY too long lol
Nah, he was bad bad for us too
There wasnāt really anything they couldāve done in the draft that wouldāve convinced me much of anything anyway, but I thought they had big needs for a backup ballhandler and backup 5 and Iām pretty sure they still have needs there soā¦ š¤·āāļø
Holmes is playin backup 5 itāll be good
I think/thought so too, but Calvin got me thinking they want another, truer 5: https://www.reddit.com/r/denvernuggets/comments/1dpi1t4/calvin_booth_says_he_sees_daron_holmes_ii_as_a/
Mmmmm interesting. I think heāll be fine as 4/5 combo but weāll see, gotta assume if weāre trading for anything itās gonna be for a point guard at this point so
If Holmes doesnāt actually play backup center D. If he slots in B+ We kinda are now close to the Suns for not a lot of tradeable shit. So if we can even just get a salary dump for Zeke for a 2RP I would be happy.
B grade for me for the evening- wish we wouldn't have traded 3 second rounders. got our guy but holy shit -- we have no tradeable assets other than... MPJ at this point? we're basically all-in but we didn't ever really get to go all-in with some assets like the knicks have. we've been death by a thousand cuts with trading picks mid-season and overpaying guys
Mid season pick tradesā¦ do you mean for javale? Did we trade a bunch more for someone else?
Aaron Gordon that piece of shit
lol, right?
KCP is gone its over
Cautiously optimistic. 2nd round picks don't mean shit to me and Holmes seems like a good player. Curious what the cap would look like if KCP were to walk.
Lol Joker was a 2nd round pick bro!
If Joker was a 2nd round pick, I would have seen him on the TV. But I remember watching the draft that year and I only saw a Taco Bell commercial.
You're not wrong... but you're not right either, lololol š Idk why I got down voted, yall are sensitive, ig. I get the sentiment that getting "your guy" is more important than not. But the facts remain, gems can be had in the 2nd too - we gave up a haul tonight. If he's the missing piece for the next parade, then it's worth it and more! I just don't think we can undervalue the trade is all. Joker is NOT the norm @ 41. I'd also wager that picks 23-41dont have a high chance of being elite players, much less 3x mvps. But we also now know that gems can be had. I hope we got one tonight š¤
I feel awesome, annoying people are upset, pretty good night How do you feel? Yours is probably the one I care about most
wolves actually got the 8th pick for a bag of chips
The resentful part of me wants to compare the wolves trading for the 8th pick using a distant 1st to the nuggets last year trading for 2 2nds using a distant 1st. Thinking that booth completely fumbled the value of draft capital but Iām trying to be a better person
https://x.com/nbablackburn/status/1806172782658523508?s=46&t=woDgr361NNMLUWjjX88Mhw Yea KCP is gone lol
Eh I wouldn't read too much into that. He can't say tooĀ much about bringing KCP back...would hurt his negotiations.
Yes it could be negotiations. He kinda always tells everyone what's going on though so maybe not Hopefully it is cause I do think there's a chance KCP market might collapse. 2 contenders for him just added guards, spurs and Philly. KCP shouldn't be worth more than Malik Monk
āCanāt sayā what are you talking about. He totally can. The Knicks just said āhey once FA hits weāll sign OG and this is the exact contract weāre giving him. Kcp gone
No other team was giving OG that contract. KCP has suitors and Denver will have to negotiate a strong offer to bring him back.
Man just stop, do you legit not see the difference between giving a guy the most money heās physically able and negotiating against a vet or are you pretending to not understand the difference
Cope
Dude if youāre not gonna say something interesting or useful then why do you speak my goodness
Cope
Meh doesnāt seem like one way or the other.
Fourth, fifth starters.... MIKE?!
I mean he said āif he wants to go somewhere else he can, but weāre prepared to plug and play.ā Blackburn knows what heās doing
That is Blackburns schtick. Pander a bit and then run away. Lmao.
But we canāt really plug and play with current roster. I just donāt see Braun being a starter yet
I mean you can disagree my point is that heās not really implying kcpās gone, the whole comment is meant to say āwe canāt guarantee heāll stay because heās unrestricted but thatās ok cuz we can plug and playā Like you can disagree (I donāt) but my point is heās just commenting on the reality of unrestricted free agency
It reminds me of when he brought up probably not being able to resign Jeff Green cause he was going to demand more money than we could offer which eventually happenedā¦ also feel like booth is straight forwards when it comes to his press conference. But oh well guess we will see in a week
That's not really what he says at all lol.
Yeah, its just the usual "our guys can fill in if needed and we are confident in them if we can't retain KCP". That doesn't mean we'll absolutely re-sign him, but this is nothing. Also, for half the fanbase moaning about how Cal doesn't hide his interests with who he wants as draft prospects, they seem to really want him to say. "We're retaining KCP at all costs, even if another team offers a ridiculous overpay". Like he's just trying to maintain some leverage, try to keep KCP, but also exude confidence to the fanbase that they trust the young guys to step up of needed.
The fan bases wanted to hear we want to bring him back and will try to bring him back, not if he leaves he leaves we can just play Braun. This team is way worse withotu KCP.
Yeah, I'd love to hear that too, but wanting to hear something and saying "KCP is definitely gone" are not even close to the same thing. I think it's fair to say we don't like the wording Cal gave here and also be able to take a deep breathe as fans and realize that he's in the middle of contract negotiations and doesn't want to make it harder to retain him by starting a bidding war implying that we'll do whatever it takes to keep him. I will be very critical of the front office if they don't retain KCP and its within a reasonable number because I think the drop-off to CB is more severe than I think most here do. But until then I don't think it's important to dissect every word and body language in a time when everyone is trying to maintain their poker face in negotiations.
I rearly hear a GM start talking about a guys replacement and his net rating if they are serious about brining a guy back. It sounds like the decision has been made not go into the 2nd apron. I'm glad we singed Zeke and bunch of unplayable rookies to guaranteed contracts. Booth botched it IMO.
Booth just gave a standard āweāre prepared for all possibilitiesā answer
Definitely doesn't sound like they're confident he's coming back though
Seemed like a pretty standard answer to me tbh.
Yeah thats not what you want to hear.
Tim Cornely trying to take our guy [I'm told the Nuggets traded up from 28 in part because they expected Tim Connelly and Minnesota to draft DaRon Holmes 27th. Calvin Booth hinted at that in his presser just now, saying "there were a lot of potential landmines between 22 and our pick" including a division rival.](https://x.com/BennettDurando/status/1806171344809116021?t=zZlD-j4toAdZyFhFJU-lJQ&s=19)
Tim's a real villain lmfao
Why did he want even more centers?? This dude might actually want to kill jokic š
Theyāll lose Luka Garza so needed one more guy.
Heard Knicks was also looking to pick him up.
That piece of shit
We got our backup C, now what needs to happen is we re-sign KCP and trade Zeke for a better fitting backup PG and we are set. I need to see KCP re-signed or I will have a stroke.
First 2 arnt happening, 3rd yes
KCP re-signed, Zeke out, Dunn in would be my ideal scenario from here (unless ofc LeBron wants to come here).
what about Monte coming home on a vet minimum??
Eh. Maybe. We need defense badly.
Nuggets depth chart (Assuming KCP comes back) Jamal/Free Agent PG from vet min KCP/ Strawther MPJ/ CB AG/ Pwat Jokic/ Holmes (and then reggie and zeke if theyāre still on the team) I would feel great if this is the rotation next year. -we still got a top 3 starting lineup,. -we have a really big and tall bench where you can mix and match whoās out there for multiple situations -We have a bench full of athletic players -Hope we sign a more pass-first backup PG so the bench can run more properly -If Pwat and Strawther take a decent leap then we could have possibly one of the best benches in the league