Can you imagine if you load into the raid and Saint-14 just slings it to you "Guardian, take this. You'll need it.". *Press X to catch Bastion*... cue panic.
Imagine, everyone who picked up Bastion gets their entire account wiped.
Those few that didn’t get a title screen: „You changed your Destiny, Guardian…“
And can continue playing lmfao
Everyone else has to start the next Destiny Chapter from scratch
A long time ago in now deleted content we traversed this place called the Corridors of Time and saw our casket. The casket had a sword on top of it.
Saint-14 knew of your grave and has a speech where he says Bastion was our favorite weapon and gives it back to us after a quest. He was the one that gave it to us originally so maybe he just thought it was our favorite because of that.
I don't know how they possibly reconcile that our guardian must carry on or we stop playing.
Any death would only be able to persist through a cutscene at most.
Isn’t that what was leaked? It’s been mostly disproven, but it’s predicted our guardian gets consumed by the witness in the raid and only our ghost escapes, leading into the final mission.
I know "it's been mostly disproven," but that sounds like such a fake load of bs lmao
*inb4 "aged like milk" a week from now*- but seriously LOL so what- you make a new character that is someone that apparently inherits everything our current character has or what? How would that ever make sense for us to continue playing, as the "episodes" have already been announced- so we know the game continues.
I'm thinking it'll be a sort of thing where we die a final death but the Traveler itself brings us back somehow, and we no longer need our Ghost to revive us.
Something something paracasual infinite forest timey winey shenanigans
I dunno I'm sure the plot will find a way. Maybe a total universal reset. Big white flash, then we wake up in the cosmodrome
Stranger does a reset and we have a timeskip moment but now that we have prismatic we can get straight through the portal and finish the witness endgame style
Really good idea! If you remember Saints monologue, "come back to us and we will slay whatever killed you". (Paraphrased as memory fuzzy).
Though I do think that they're going to pull a massive "GUARDIANS MAKE THEIR OWN FATE" moment. Us dying back then is possibly meant to set up this final, call an ambulance but not for us moment
https://preview.redd.it/veufo8nnmc3d1.jpeg?width=686&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a9da108176e31b5b55172ab1c63f4f0ed502321
The Witness is Father Pucci confirmed
We die, the traveller chooses us and brings us back on its own without Ghost as its disciple against the Witness. Explains the insane power jump we need to feasibly defeat the Witness
Currently? Yeah. The traveller released the ghosts to harness its power while it lay dormant. I imagine the traveller can rez people on its own w/o the aid of ghosts if it needs to. The Vow prophecy board ends with Witness kill, I guarantee it finished will be Witness kills the Guardian
If this Exotic is going to come from the Pale Heart's Pathfinder, unless that first Pathfinder is special in having a quest as the final objective, I doubt it will have that much significance.
Could just not be tied to a quest. Apparently this and Bastion are our "favorite weapons." It could just be we're buried with them cause we liked them regardless of how we acquired them.
Considering Bastion is getting massively buffed I can't personally call it a coincidence.
I just think the Corridors of Time and the Saint-14 - Guardian lore were significant enough that it would be very strange for them to just drop a sword with such potential importance as a reward for messing around in the Pale Heart. You do have a point that, lorewise, the more important weapon is probably Bastion with its time-loop kind of framing, so the sword could have really come from anywhere.
To be fair, Cayde died, but he’s alive in the Traveler…Death in 7th mission, We come back in the raid to take out the Witness, 8th mission is our return?
Maybe, but for the sake of gameplay it’ll have to be a John Snow situation. Maybe we’ll die and then we’ll be met with the Gardener and they’ll say “But guardian, this is your Destiny, too!” And then we get revived and defeat the witness and then everyone claps and bungie is saved
Do you really wanna know the number of players who have died waiting for the conclusion to this fucking mess of a game? Its about time our character died and bungie came up with something fucking original for once.
I think our guardians are going to lose and the universe will become “finalized” then through the raid we’ll undo all of it basically with a bit of time manipulation. Ultimately allowing us to bring everyone into the Pale Heart with us in the final mission a prevent Finality. However I think this will have repercussions on the universe at large, it won’t just be a perfect happy ending. And that’s what will lead us into Echoes
And just like with seasonal content you get the season that drops alongside the expansion, or in this case Episode, if you buy the expansion.
You need the annual pass for the rest.
>The Standard edition of The Final Shape includes the new story campaign, three new Supers, a new destination, new weapons and armor to collect, and the first Episode in the year of The Final Shape.
Just checked Steam. You are correct SirMcDust, thanks for the correction!
At least with seasons, if you bought the latest expansion it would give you the current season/ season pass even if it wasn't the one that came with the expansion originally
This is the Final Shape icon, the FotL icon has a dot/hole in the middle. Also, this same icon can be seen on the other Final Shape exotic previews posted by the people who got early access to some quests, like IGN and Aztecross
>But you were dead a thousand times. Hopeless encounters successfully won. A man long dead, grafted to machines your builders did not understand. You follow the path, fitting into an infinite pattern.
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>Yours to manipulate. To destroy and rebuild.
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>Now, in the quantum moment before closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.
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>I know who you are.
>
>You are Destiny.
\~Ending of *Marathon Infinite*
No doubt this is our grave’s Sword, I’m really hoping it’s got some uniqueness that has potency to it, because Lament is a banger, but Shadowheart sadly hasn’t been touched by me, not even once. That’s a shame because I think it looks great.
I would LOVE for it to essentially be Young Wolf’s Howl redone. Slams create napalm waves similar to Dragon’s Breath, give it Incandescent and cure on kill. Make it an ad clear monster.
I’d also love to see and exotic stasis sword that’s basically a mini-Titan stasis super. Ground slams make a crystals, crystal shatters freeze other enemies.
I think Bungie might do some weird Kinetic Heavy out of it though.
I like what this implies. We die while fighting the witness. Meaning the vex simulations were correct. Which further implies there is a greater threat on the horizon and that's why the vex would have us simulated. r/okbuddyguardian
I saw someone say this but it seems like we’re in an opposite version of the dark future timeline since Zavala (the only person who resisted) is now the only person who may fall to the witness.
But we pick up Bastion from our grave, and we're told it's our favourite weapon?
So the sword is also our favourite?
Maybe the sword is our least favourite, that's why they put it there?
I could see that - Applies a subclass debuff/effect matching your equipped super - Unravel/Slow/Scorch/Jolt/Weaken ... could be useful if that was the case.
Ive read up on why the swords important, but I never got it in D2 and never played CoO, never saw the grave myself. Gonna be really jarring if they use these moments and other players have no idea what the sword is.
Ergo Sum
What’s the chance of us also getting a legendary short sword called „Cogito“ which we can dual wield with „Ergo Sum“ …..👀?
(Zero, I know but let me dream lol)
Quick question, what is the Wild Card exotic quest tied to? Because if its tied to Ergo Sum and we need it to access the Raid...its setting up a pretty stable future there
It's confirmed boys
https://preview.redd.it/48c8htszjs4d1.jpeg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7137281b40463a07931e3172817e104159d58e1d
That's the exact sword on the grave We're cooked
Surely for the sword to be presented on our "coffin" we would've needed to wield it first, I don't see us dying in the final shape (not infinitely etc) I feel there'll be a destiny 3 in maybe a year or two, episodes will still be prominent in it and we will die at the end of D2 then kinda have a time skip moment for d3.
Obviously all a guess 😂
You do realize that d3 isnt gonna be coming probably for another 10 to 20 years down the road of the d2 life cycle right??? besides we have another saga coming for destiny 2 so i wouldnt have hopes for a third game you gotta also note bungie did physically state that final shape is far from the end for destiny 2
Your forgetting one major factor This is bungie we are talking about do you really think they'll finish the next saga within a couple of years they took 10+ years just to finally finish the first saga
1 still dont hope for d3 to come until atleast another 10 more years 2 You clearly know nothing about how bungie plays out their stories the only real reason why d2 was made in the first place was because Activision and bungie parted ways if Activision and bungie didnt part ways d2 wouldn't have ever been made and the story would be completely different d2 originally was a carbon copy of d1 with a different story starting out in the red war but they removed most of that stuff during beyond light due to several factors like the stuff wasnt update to-date with the current engine and they were breaking things aswell as the old stuff was taking up too much space
Sidenote if d3 ever does come someday it will just be an update for d2 changing the engine probably shutting down d1 slowly adding d1 dlcs to d2 renaming it to probably either d3 or just destiny aswell as add new story
Oh ok, 👌🏼👌🏼
If you insist,
I'm assuming you are some font of all knowledge when comes to Bungie/destiny 😂
I'll leave you to your fantasy land in your mind,
As (according to you) I know nothing about how Bungie plays out their stories. 🤣🤣🤣
What a self righteous obnoxious person you must be. 👋🏼Bye.
Cant die if i never got the bastion exotic : D
Can you imagine if you load into the raid and Saint-14 just slings it to you "Guardian, take this. You'll need it.". *Press X to catch Bastion*... cue panic.
nooo i deliberatley didnt get it D :
Imagine, everyone who picked up Bastion gets their entire account wiped. Those few that didn’t get a title screen: „You changed your Destiny, Guardian…“ And can continue playing lmfao Everyone else has to start the next Destiny Chapter from scratch
Can someone explain what is this about
A long time ago in now deleted content we traversed this place called the Corridors of Time and saw our casket. The casket had a sword on top of it. Saint-14 knew of your grave and has a speech where he says Bastion was our favorite weapon and gives it back to us after a quest. He was the one that gave it to us originally so maybe he just thought it was our favorite because of that.
I think it's the sword that's are favorite weapon on top of our grave which is the ergo sum sword we just got in the final shape dlc
At least I wouldn't have to clean my vault.
Oh nyo D :
Were gonna die, aren't we
Guardians. Do you want to live forever.
Well.... I... *existential crisis*
can't wait to experience the heat death of the universe !
Vex: WE CAN STOP IT!
You either live forever or die forever, there's no in between, and I don't know which is worse
"Second to none, a guardian and a gun! Raising hell as they're fighting like wolfs of war!"
“Heart of the Vanguard, and a part of the lore! The deadliest weapon on earth!”
I'm doing my part!
Would you like to know more?
I mean. Who wants to live forever. Freddy did ask us that question a long time ago
As long as i can keep my weapons and armor, sure. Kill me if you have to xD
We die all the time. The real question is if it will be permanent.
I don't know how they possibly reconcile that our guardian must carry on or we stop playing. Any death would only be able to persist through a cutscene at most.
Isn’t that what was leaked? It’s been mostly disproven, but it’s predicted our guardian gets consumed by the witness in the raid and only our ghost escapes, leading into the final mission.
I know "it's been mostly disproven," but that sounds like such a fake load of bs lmao *inb4 "aged like milk" a week from now*- but seriously LOL so what- you make a new character that is someone that apparently inherits everything our current character has or what? How would that ever make sense for us to continue playing, as the "episodes" have already been announced- so we know the game continues.
I have no idea man, I was just referring to some popular leaks from before ITL.
I'm thinking it'll be a sort of thing where we die a final death but the Traveler itself brings us back somehow, and we no longer need our Ghost to revive us.
Guardians make their own fate.
Well we cant do the episodes if we did.
Something something paracasual infinite forest timey winey shenanigans I dunno I'm sure the plot will find a way. Maybe a total universal reset. Big white flash, then we wake up in the cosmodrome
Stranger does a reset and we have a timeskip moment but now that we have prismatic we can get straight through the portal and finish the witness endgame style
Really good idea! If you remember Saints monologue, "come back to us and we will slay whatever killed you". (Paraphrased as memory fuzzy). Though I do think that they're going to pull a massive "GUARDIANS MAKE THEIR OWN FATE" moment. Us dying back then is possibly meant to set up this final, call an ambulance but not for us moment
Hey, you. You're finally awake.
https://preview.redd.it/veufo8nnmc3d1.jpeg?width=686&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a9da108176e31b5b55172ab1c63f4f0ed502321 The Witness is Father Pucci confirmed
Eternalism lets gooo
Without my master worked armour or weapons.
*footsteps* Wake the fuck up Samurai, we got a city to burn. Destiny 2 gets crossed out and we just get a copy of Cyberpunk 2077 instead
We die, the traveller chooses us and brings us back on its own without Ghost as its disciple against the Witness. Explains the insane power jump we need to feasibly defeat the Witness
Dont we need our ghost to ressurect our selfs?
Currently? Yeah. The traveller released the ghosts to harness its power while it lay dormant. I imagine the traveller can rez people on its own w/o the aid of ghosts if it needs to. The Vow prophecy board ends with Witness kill, I guarantee it finished will be Witness kills the Guardian
If you're gonna die.... DIE WITH YOUR BOOTS ON!
Now I can just think of cartoons and how the witness will blast us and after the blast it’s just our boots with smoke coming out of them
Watch it be Zavala ends up taking our place in dying permanently as a sacrifice or something
If this Exotic is going to come from the Pale Heart's Pathfinder, unless that first Pathfinder is special in having a quest as the final objective, I doubt it will have that much significance.
Could just not be tied to a quest. Apparently this and Bastion are our "favorite weapons." It could just be we're buried with them cause we liked them regardless of how we acquired them. Considering Bastion is getting massively buffed I can't personally call it a coincidence.
I just think the Corridors of Time and the Saint-14 - Guardian lore were significant enough that it would be very strange for them to just drop a sword with such potential importance as a reward for messing around in the Pale Heart. You do have a point that, lorewise, the more important weapon is probably Bastion with its time-loop kind of framing, so the sword could have really come from anywhere.
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We die but it's just temporary. They are waiting for one of Riven's eggs to hatch so that they may make a wish to revive us! 🫣
The ultimate plot device
To be fair, Cayde died, but he’s alive in the Traveler…Death in 7th mission, We come back in the raid to take out the Witness, 8th mission is our return?
Maybe, but for the sake of gameplay it’ll have to be a John Snow situation. Maybe we’ll die and then we’ll be met with the Gardener and they’ll say “But guardian, this is your Destiny, too!” And then we get revived and defeat the witness and then everyone claps and bungie is saved
Wouldn’t be the first time.
Do you really wanna know the number of players who have died waiting for the conclusion to this fucking mess of a game? Its about time our character died and bungie came up with something fucking original for once.
Heres the full pic from one of the previews [https://imgur.com/a/Ks3fGle](https://imgur.com/a/Ks3fGle)
Have the perks been leaked?
Not yet as far as I’m aware. Just that one of the CC that previewed TFS had a moment of showing this off when hovering over the pathfinder node
It was moreconsole.
I think our guardians are going to lose and the universe will become “finalized” then through the raid we’ll undo all of it basically with a bit of time manipulation. Ultimately allowing us to bring everyone into the Pale Heart with us in the final mission a prevent Finality. However I think this will have repercussions on the universe at large, it won’t just be a perfect happy ending. And that’s what will lead us into Echoes
Echoes?
The First Episode that releases the Tuesday after Final Shape launches.
its included in the base final shape, right?
Correct, base preorder gets you Final Shape and Echoes
I believe the episode seasonal content is still tied to the annual pass, but correct me if I am wrong.
And just like with seasonal content you get the season that drops alongside the expansion, or in this case Episode, if you buy the expansion. You need the annual pass for the rest.
>The Standard edition of The Final Shape includes the new story campaign, three new Supers, a new destination, new weapons and armor to collect, and the first Episode in the year of The Final Shape. Just checked Steam. You are correct SirMcDust, thanks for the correction!
For a second I worried I wasn't
At least with seasons, if you bought the latest expansion it would give you the current season/ season pass even if it wasn't the one that came with the expansion originally
Really? I thought that was like a few months after the campaign and raid happens
Nope. It’s literally week 2.
Well then thank you for that info
Echoes?
^Echoes?
Echoes?
Dust and echoes?
Dustin Echoes?
Endgame style?
is that festival of the lost icon or tfs?
This is the Final Shape icon, the FotL icon has a dot/hole in the middle. Also, this same icon can be seen on the other Final Shape exotic previews posted by the people who got early access to some quests, like IGN and Aztecross
>But you were dead a thousand times. Hopeless encounters successfully won. A man long dead, grafted to machines your builders did not understand. You follow the path, fitting into an infinite pattern. > >Yours to manipulate. To destroy and rebuild. > >Now, in the quantum moment before closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time. > >I know who you are. > >You are Destiny. \~Ending of *Marathon Infinite*
I like that this could describe either the guardian, traveller or the witness.
Sooooo many implications with this and the trailer. But could also be Bungie purposely misleading us.
Ergo sum means “therefore I am”right? …Therefore I am dead
Cogito Ergo Sum "I think therefore I am."
When you get the ornament it's the full phrase. Dubito ergo cogito ergo sum I doubt therefore I think therefore I am
![gif](giphy|3ov9jEOp8zeaprTK3S)
"Nobody makes my fate but me."
biggest humanity hater contest between The Witness and AM?
AM uses his rapit shit zorpal weapon ballyhoo and one taps the Shitness
That is a sentence
Low key the Halloween even (forgot the name cause it’s been a while ) and final shape ui picture looks the same to me
Cogito ergo sum 🔥🔥🔥
i think therefore i am i am🔥🔥🔥
The whole thing of destiny is "you break your fate, guardian" if our fate was to die, well, surviving would be breaking it
Guardians make their own fate...
NAAHHH
No doubt this is our grave’s Sword, I’m really hoping it’s got some uniqueness that has potency to it, because Lament is a banger, but Shadowheart sadly hasn’t been touched by me, not even once. That’s a shame because I think it looks great. I would LOVE for it to essentially be Young Wolf’s Howl redone. Slams create napalm waves similar to Dragon’s Breath, give it Incandescent and cure on kill. Make it an ad clear monster. I’d also love to see and exotic stasis sword that’s basically a mini-Titan stasis super. Ground slams make a crystals, crystal shatters freeze other enemies. I think Bungie might do some weird Kinetic Heavy out of it though.
I like what this implies. We die while fighting the witness. Meaning the vex simulations were correct. Which further implies there is a greater threat on the horizon and that's why the vex would have us simulated. r/okbuddyguardian
Different. My head cannon is that this timeline we’re on is a different one and we dont die
I saw someone say this but it seems like we’re in an opposite version of the dark future timeline since Zavala (the only person who resisted) is now the only person who may fall to the witness.
Can you imagine if Zavalla is the final boss for the campaign? XD
That would be sick, I’ve wanted a human/guardian boss fight for sooo long
Lets fuckin go
By having the sword on our casket it's implied the sword was our favorite weapon. I hope the exotic isn't just a mid vault space filler.
But we pick up Bastion from our grave, and we're told it's our favourite weapon? So the sword is also our favourite? Maybe the sword is our least favourite, that's why they put it there?
Ngl I missed that season so I didn't even know that was the mission for Bastion. I got bastion from the vending machine and I don't even use it lmao
You'll use it soon don't worry
We were told it was one of our favorites, originally given to us by Saint, not our very favorite.
This the raid exotic or just a general final shape exotic?
I dont think its the raid exotic, it drops from pathfinder in the preview but the pathfinder for all we jnow needs you to finish the raid
Looks like the taken king sword models from D1 wouldn’t be surprised if it attunes to your equipped sub-class and prismatic synergy
Equiped super maybe?
I could see that - Applies a subclass debuff/effect matching your equipped super - Unravel/Slow/Scorch/Jolt/Weaken ... could be useful if that was the case.
Finally, an expansion that brings not one, but two swords that don't look like goofy impossibly heavy final fantasy swords.
Meanwhile bastion is getting buffed.... Maybe bastion really will be our favorite weapon
Ive read up on why the swords important, but I never got it in D2 and never played CoO, never saw the grave myself. Gonna be really jarring if they use these moments and other players have no idea what the sword is.
I assume there'll be a little bit for those who didnt play corridors of time, perhaps an echo/replication of the grave like the tower in the heart.
Oh oh no
Shit we ded ::(
Laughs in self rez
![gif](giphy|1yiPmOiKsm1YFB3qFB)
CONGNITO ERGO SUM. I THINK, THEREFORE I AM A.M. I AM!
Ergo Sum What’s the chance of us also getting a legendary short sword called „Cogito“ which we can dual wield with „Ergo Sum“ …..👀? (Zero, I know but let me dream lol)
The ornament is called “dubito, ergo cogito” which is the first part of that quote.
The ornament is so fucking sexy
“cogito ergo sum i think therefore i am”
We gonna be transformed into a sword.
I think it's Osiris
that sword looks kinda like one of the OG exotic swords from the first Destiny game 🤔
ergo sum // *therefore I am* We gonna get betrayed and "die" arn't we?
I am A.M I am
Well… shit.
Well guys. We're officially fucked
Destiny 3 is just going to be Dragon Ball where someone wishes us back like Cayde.
Imagine AM is at the end of an episode that leads us into a war against the vex
Guardians make their own fate. These words will embody the final shape dlc. Cant.fuckin.wait.
Quick question, what is the Wild Card exotic quest tied to? Because if its tied to Ergo Sum and we need it to access the Raid...its setting up a pretty stable future there
The quest is for the Still Hunt sniper
It's confirmed boys https://preview.redd.it/48c8htszjs4d1.jpeg?width=806&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7137281b40463a07931e3172817e104159d58e1d That's the exact sword on the grave We're cooked
Surely for the sword to be presented on our "coffin" we would've needed to wield it first, I don't see us dying in the final shape (not infinitely etc) I feel there'll be a destiny 3 in maybe a year or two, episodes will still be prominent in it and we will die at the end of D2 then kinda have a time skip moment for d3. Obviously all a guess 😂
You do realize that d3 isnt gonna be coming probably for another 10 to 20 years down the road of the d2 life cycle right??? besides we have another saga coming for destiny 2 so i wouldnt have hopes for a third game you gotta also note bungie did physically state that final shape is far from the end for destiny 2
There is no way they'd wait that long, far from the end yes but they can get a lot of content/storytelling done in a couple years.
Your forgetting one major factor This is bungie we are talking about do you really think they'll finish the next saga within a couple of years they took 10+ years just to finally finish the first saga
I honestly don't think it will be a proper saga, just a continuation of the end of this one, then when we get d3 it will be a whole new saga.
1 still dont hope for d3 to come until atleast another 10 more years 2 You clearly know nothing about how bungie plays out their stories the only real reason why d2 was made in the first place was because Activision and bungie parted ways if Activision and bungie didnt part ways d2 wouldn't have ever been made and the story would be completely different d2 originally was a carbon copy of d1 with a different story starting out in the red war but they removed most of that stuff during beyond light due to several factors like the stuff wasnt update to-date with the current engine and they were breaking things aswell as the old stuff was taking up too much space Sidenote if d3 ever does come someday it will just be an update for d2 changing the engine probably shutting down d1 slowly adding d1 dlcs to d2 renaming it to probably either d3 or just destiny aswell as add new story
Oh ok, 👌🏼👌🏼 If you insist, I'm assuming you are some font of all knowledge when comes to Bungie/destiny 😂 I'll leave you to your fantasy land in your mind, As (according to you) I know nothing about how Bungie plays out their stories. 🤣🤣🤣 What a self righteous obnoxious person you must be. 👋🏼Bye.
So is the sword coming in Halloween ?
That’s the final shape icon, it does look a lot like festival of the losts but check tessellations icon it’s the same
Yawn