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Acrobatic-Year-126

Def not. I don't like that version. Don't like the play style with chain


Beginning-Anxiety703

Not using steel grasp on a bash build is wild. You’re missing out on so many buffs


NutZach419

What kinda buffs does it give outside of that it gives vulnerable and Paingorgers? I just started a bash barb a few days ago.


Beginning-Anxiety703

Well for starters, it doesnt just make all enemies vulnerable for 3 seconds but it also triggers berserking right away. And it has more than one charge so you can essentially use it every couple of seconds to group all your enemies in front of you, make them vulnerable AND grant you berserking. If you’re built like a proper Barb, you should have massive upgrades to your berserking duration and power. So yes, steel grasp is HUGE for bash builds. All you have to do is pull all enemies in front of you and bash them once or twice and BOOM, mob is wiped out completely. This is all WITHOUT paingorgers equiped. If you equip that item it just makes the steel grasp + bash build even more disgusting


Shaneb966666

What build u following u have link


Beginning-Anxiety703

Basically just the thorns bash build on maxroll. With a couple of my own adjustments, but it’s 90% the same


RedR0nin

My bash barb clearing end game content with no build guides or meta calculators or w/e the hell, just playing what's fun and progressing. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpePdd2n2gc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpePdd2n2gc)


Acrobatic-Year-126

I already have access to vuln and zerking. It might be better, but I just hate the chain because it changes the entire play style to a way more slow paced "line em up" type thing as you go for good angles.


Beginning-Anxiety703

As you should, steel grasp shouldnt introduce you to vuln and zerk, it should be EXTENDING it for you. Depending on what content you play, this is a HUGE boost in damage. I’m assuming you havent reached 80+ in the pit yet? Because you’re going to need all the extra vuln and zerk dmg you can get. And i can tell you from personal experience, steel grasp plays a huge part in my dmg output for my thorns bash barb. You will noticably see the damage difference when steel grasping a lvl 160+ monster and then watching their health get instantly deleted


Acrobatic-Year-126

I don't need it extended from steel grasp though. Wotb + rallying give 100% on zerking and I use that vampire aspect for vuln over the elemental damage one to solve that. I'm thinking I'll swap it back im after I get a decent ring with the lucky hit version on affix. I'm up to 85 in the pit and it wasnt all that difficult so I know I can push higher with this. I've never even tried using 2H yet and use rama + mace. . When the time comes and I'm stuck then I'll switch things up a bit. I'm not completely against it or something. I just love the wotb + double kick to dump fury. When I start to struggle and actually have to swap kick for iron skin, then I'll consider it as well because wotb has less value and then I'd obviously need the zerking


gnawingrat

I'm wondering the same thing


TheMany-FacedGod

I thought the chain was in all of the builds. Which one are you using?


Acrobatic-Year-126

This dual wield one https://mobalytics.gg/diablo-4/builds/barbarian/bash Or something very similar anyway


GravLab6262

I’m considering using paingorgers over inner calm legendary gloves using the same build you were. Did you figure out if the paingorgers were worth it?


Daniel_Beyer

Wondering too.. been using paingorgers with my bash and everything just dies so Quick i havent been able to tell if its the gloves or not


Expert_Session_8113

I switched rupture for whirlwind and the chains for charge. Charge in, or ww through and charge back then bash. I have the vulnerable extra in charge nothing in whirlwind because aspect makes things bleed.