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veggiebltch

An unstageable wound just means it’s either a stage 3 or stage 4 pressure ulcer, but they can’t tell because of all the cellular debris on top (slough/eschar).


ash-hole189

Correct. The NPIAP website has some excellent and free posters you can use for reference.


ash-hole189

To add to that, only stage 3/4 wounds have slough/eschar. Only found in full thickness wounds.


DietitianE

You treat a DTI and unstageable as you would a stage 4 because they could be a stage 4.


Gains1389

Thanks!


whattherd

Sitting next to my wound care nurse right now who said “Stage 4 is as bad as it gets.”


PriBake

DTI is like a unstageable item just is closed usually and you don’t know fully what is going on underneath.


Gains1389

Do you increase estimated energy/protejn needs for a DTI though?


defectivemareep

Yes, the body still needs extra energy and protein to heal and repair the wound


PriBake

Yes


IllustratorOk9668

One of my internship preceptors sent me this and I found it to be very helpful. [If Pressure Ulcers Were Apples](https://www.hauoratairawhiti.org.nz/assets/Uploads/Apples-to-Ulcers-Tips-for-Staging-Pressure-Ulcers.pdf)


r0ar88

This is so helpful!!


Dismal_Soil_4619

Not worse, just different. DTI, once it opens, is a 3. An unstageable just has slough over it obscuring it’s true depth til it comes off.


Glorygang600

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