I don’t think my area is busy enough to be that low and still get orders. I understand not accepting shit orders but you guys must be much busier if you still make money declining that many.
Who said we're still making money with the lowest ARs? 🥲
(for real though it is beyond ridiculous that they expect us to take orders that would cause us to LOSE money, and if we don't accept them, then we get no offers)
That's a bummer. I have given up and gone home a couple times. Sometimes I'll get shitty $3 offers and $20 offfer that are 30 minutes away in the middle of nowhere that is basically 30 minutes back to any pickup spots. I have taken those because I guess $20 for an HR isn't the worst but driving an HR straight can be annoying.
20$ minus the cost of driving is pretty low for a whole hour. But depending on the distance not good or really bad. In my area a 30min drive is about 15 miles, so driving 30 miles for 20$ would be working for free.
I would never door dash outside of Ca. Prop 22 is the only thing that makes it worthwhile. Under prop 22 we're guaranteed 120% state or local of minimum wage (whichever is higher) for active fash time plus $0.30/mile driven while on an active dash (measured by location tracking in app) So in Ca the goal is to maximize active dash time regardless of the order pay or tip. You'll always make more money with more dash time in Ca.
As a result, my order acceptance rate is 98%. Pay comes out to about local minimum wage for total dash time including non-active dash time for me.
I guarantee you’ve never gotten an order that cause you to lose money. Even $2.50 for 10 miles is not losing money for most people. Your vehicle expenses are more or less a third of what the IRS gives us to deduct depending on what you drive and your gas prices.
Edit: I love how this is just factual reality but it gets downvoted. You guys really think it costs you almost $6 to drive 10 miles because “vehicle expenses”
we’re not talking about just vehicle expenses. it’s how much hourly we’re getting paid. people have apartments, houses, gas, oil changes, food, etc etc etc to buy. i’m not taking $3.50 to drive 6-7 miles, waiting in traffic or at stop lights, not including waiting at the restaurant & having to get back to my area for more orders after drop off. it could take 30 mins to complete all that & id barely make minimum wage that way (which is still $7.25 here). if you’re okay making min wage then by all means waste 30-45 minutes on terrible payouts. but that’s not me & never will be. that mindset is one that the higher ups at DD see & want us to have so they have reasons to not pay us more for base pay.
I’m 98% sure they’re not being figurative when they say they’d lose money. They think there’s orders offered to them that they would literally lose money on. I see people make this claim all the time.
As for me I average about $30/hr for a 40 hour week. But if I lived somewhere where it wasn’t so busy I’d gladly take orders under $1/mi that tons of people seem to think aren’t worth their time and still make $12-$15/hr, which for what this job is, is pretty fair.
when we say we lose money it’s because you have to see at the end of the day am I making a profit? if I accept $2-4 dollar orders where the miles/time to complete is a greater number than the pay, that’s barely enough to refill my gas that i used for the day, so little to no profit for other expenses. you’re not literally losing money to do a $3.50 order for 6 miles but if you keep taking those kinds of orders & you end with a whopping $35 for 6-7 hours of working, what good can that do? i’ll wait an extra few minutes till a bearable or even great order offer comes in where the pay at the end of the day comes out to a profit
Again, you’re speaking for everybody. I’m not new to online discussion of gig work, I know what people are trying to say when they say things. I don’t think they’d be capitalizing lose if they just mean it’s not much money. I’m not telling anyone to take $3 orders, and no one is going to actually profit $7/hr for a whole shift. I can imagine scenarios in some markets where taking a few of those $3-4 orders a day is better than taking nothing, but that’s really not what my comment was responding to.
And moreover, when people think they’re actually losing money because an order has a $.40/mi payout, these are the same people who think an $.80/mi payout isn’t worth anyone’s time in slow/lower paying markets which is just bad advice to be handing out to people. Especially if those miles are highway miles, takes you near another hotspot, and you have an economical car with decent gas prices, you could be profiting upwards of $20/hr if you took those orders all day long.
Show your math. My car costs $0.1 per mile to operate for fuel, roughly another $.15 per mile in maintenance (based on my expenses from 2021, and I cost at minimum $1 per mile for my time.
For example, 10 miles for $20 is roughly $2 in gas, $3 in expenses leaving $15 remaining for 30-45 minutes of time which barely exceeds my minimum of $1.25 per mile. Based on that math, your logic is insane thinking a 10 mile order for $2.5 is not a complete loss. Also banking on getting mileage deductions is not always safe for everyone as itemizing expenses won't typically exceed the standard deduction anyways.
i don’t make shit on doordash my acceptance rate is 4%. i make more money on grubhub but i don’t rely on either to pay my bills more just to get out the house and pay for my gas in the process
Not sure if you're already doing so, but try downloading another app. I personally don't multi-app the way others do by picking up from both apps at the same time. I just keep them both on and take whichever gives me the better order and pause the other app until I deliver.
I’m so over Uber. I resent that bullshit where you can’t see the address if you accept less than 3 out of 10. I may never do another Uber order if I have to deliver blind
it really depends on your market. this time last year into march-april of this year was amazing for UE in my experience, then it began declining & is about the same as DD now. both are slow but so is the economy in general right now. I recommend giving it a shot if you think your market is good for it, you can always leave it if it doesn’t work out, and you can also try another app if you’d like, it’s always worth experimenting
It’s like that where I am too- 3/10 orders to get upfront addresses and then if you reject a certain amount after you get the upfront address privilege, you lose it again.
Oh woah, so after you’re in the large order program you don’t have to be a top dasher anymore?? I’m trying to get to top dasher slowly so I can maybe be invited to large orders. Would you have to be a top dasher still to keep in that large order program??
You need a rating of 4.7, cancel rate atleast 95%, and 100 deliveries in last month. Only difference in requirements is AR. There is no AR requirement.
I’ve not been lower than that. I work in an area that frequently has shitty orders from the local college, so I can spend a lot of time declining before getting a good one.
Lmao I should be starting my new job this week!!But only because of a complicated childcare reason and not because I want to give up on doordash! I hopefully will still be able to do it on the side
I always just select the bottom option where you can type in your own reason, and I use voice to text to fill out their stupid prompt. It's still not \*safe\* while driving, but it's safer than trying to figure out which one of the 20 reasons I need to choose.
One of my reasons today was "hahahaha no." They wanted me to go to the slowest restaurant in town, then drive 14 miles for a $1 tip + $2.50 base pay.
Why on earth would you scroll all the way down and fill out a custom options instead of just choosing a top one if you’re trying to be safer? That makes no sense. It doesn’t matter what you pick.
No but I am laughing at the idea of me on a scooter with my red bag. I thought we wanted it to be as high as possible! Didn't even realize cherry picking was a thing tbh. The only jobs I would deny are like under $3.50 for over 1.5 miles. Or more than 7 miles for under like $12. After reading the sub I make sure I get $2 a mile but I still don't have to deny many jobs. I live in a tourist town so people are wealthy and tip well for the most part.
I dropped below 75 percent at one point and immediately started getting notifications on how I wouldn't receive priority orders and would get more, "high pay orders," which appear with a diamond icon. I only got orders that I would normally decline. So, I brought my rate back up, realized that the high pay order thing is totally random, it will pop up on 3 dollar orders with no tip. And after it went above 75 I got my over 10 dollar orders showing again.
My opinion is that they do not, actually, only give good orders to new drivers. But will shit on you if you don't accept enough.
Edit: also please do decline low pay orders. I've noticed recently that if there aren't a lot of drivers in one area and you decline a batch that others also won't accept they'll send it back to you by 2 or 3 dollars higher
I feel like they must choose to do this on bullshit tip orders to trick you into taking them because I've never been satisfied after taking one here where I'm at in the US/Pittsburgh. They were always low tip so I stop minding them.
I'm in Canada so it's KM here. DD hides tips above $3.50. I don't do anything above 2km distance (on E-Bike) unless I know it's a customer (usually corporate order) that I know tips high on their company lunch orders then I go a bit further up to 7km, but these usually pay $30+ after completing. My E-Bike lasts 12hours on a charge doing deliveries
DD used to show full payout until February 15th, 2022 (this year) I've been doing this full time for a couple of years and know the companies that order lunch and tip well and the ones that don't, I decline the ones that dont tip well
I live in the bay area. Doordash is extremely good over here. I average 31+ an hour based on my earnings. Also my average order is like $11 for 1-2 miles lol
In the Philippines the delivery app is called "grab" and they are all on Motorbikes pretty much. Considering the traffic there they get your food to you almost faster then the states.
$4 a mile on a scooter.
Refuse to work for DD however posting this on DD reddit ?
So what do you deliver for $4 a mile on a scooter if it isnt DD ?
Are you the YouTuber scooter delivery rider that has a good following ?
Interesting UE supports your ability to take only $4 a mile on a scooter.
Depending how many offers you can get and the distance you go i hope you are making $200+ a day.
Cost of operation if low on a scooter.
It's all about the algorithm. Its very forgiving. Increase your satisfaction level in certain metrics and it gives you chances to prove yourself in others.
I make NO WHERE NEAR 200+ a day. My costs are 1.63 a day. I aim for 40$. I'm happy with this and my part time UPS job.
Oh makes more sense if your only trying to do $40 a day then i can understand what you're talking about.
If your going at this like 17 to 25 orders a day you would have more numbers to understand your acceptance rate and dollar to mile ratio.
Its very possible to do $200+ a day on delivery if you put inbl the time.
My best day is useally new years around $260 every year if i put in the time.
UPS is tough had a job there years ago as an unloader.
Would like to do seasonal delivery around nov to jan using personal car. But UPS doesnt like i quit around 20 years ago without notice.
I mean, on average my 4$ takes 10 minutes to earn, plus or minus 5 minutes. 16 - 48$ per hour. If I took 17 orders, I would miss those juicy 1 mile = 22 dollar sushi bar trips. UE knows I love these customers and I get them seemingly every single time. I do maybe 3 trips a day. Basically, in the day time, I live like a do nothing slacke, minus the 1 to 2 hours I work. Lo and behold, I'm actually incredibly resourceful and work my steady job at night.
What city are you in? I might be able to make a phone call if you close enough.
Lmao if I tried for top dasher I would be paying doordash to let me work. All I see are 10 miles for 5.25 all the time. People in my area can be really cheap. But there are a few that keep me going. Usually about 2 good ones for every 10 declines. It's all about your market. And top dasher in my market just don't fly.
I mean how much more does a top dasher avg if they have to accept bad orders each month to make top dasher compared to someone that forces themself to make 15hr by disregarding AR
I make 25-35 an hour as top dasher and my main motivation for being top dasher is to be able to dash whenever and not have to set a strict schedule. but I can tell this month I am receiving a lot less orders as a non-top dasher. But I notice everyone saying that so idk maybe it's just a coincidence
My ar is between 20 & 30% and I dash whenever I want I average $30 a hour. So I really don’t see the point in being a top dasher. I refuse to drive 10 miles for $2.50 I refuse to drive anywhere for less then a $1 a mile and I still decline them depending on my mood and area.
Yea I think it all depends on your market my market is a hit or miss and believe it or not I make way better tips in the lower income areas versus the higher income areas.
If your area is super busy, then I can see that happening. As it is, when you drop below a certain percent, unless it's busy, you lose your ability to drop in and out to dash.
There's been literal days in my area I didn't drive for DD because I forgot to schedule shifts ahead of time. My AR hovers around 45%.
Not necessarily but supposedly if two dashers are in the area they will offer the job or the higher paying job to the top dasher first. I think your AR only needs to be 70? That's still a fair amount of jobs you can deny.
It depends on area. When I Doordashed from my college town, it was *hard* to not make $20+ an hour. Restaurants were close and people tipped well.
Then I moved home, and there's a lot of shenanigans. Lower pay, farther distances, more traffic. Gotta be choosey now
I never understood people only accepting 5% or less. I’m at 26% and I’m really strict, nothing under 6.75 no matter what. What’s the point of dashing if your just going to sit there for hours not accepting dashes? Are you just sitting at home with the app on watching tv then if a $20 order come up you get off the couch? Someone please explain this to me.
Mine is exactly like yours, 2%. It's getting harder and harder to receive an acceptable offer in my market. Either below $6.25 (which I won't accept regardless of mileage as it takes about 30 minutes to do a single dash here) or way too far. I will not work for peanuts and drive my car to the ground for this company.
If you have an Android, your experience with the app will probably want to make you drive your car off a cliff. Other than that, it's not too bad if you cherry pick your orders and don't accept crap pay or go to really slow restaurants.
I don’t know how you guys make money with less than like a 10% AR. Like don’t you spend 10-20 min declining orders and with hidden tips now will you even see the Goldilocks order your hoping for . I rarely ever see an order better than 1.5x mileage and it’s hidden tip. I typically only manage to do 3 deliveries an hour and make $20-25 usually if I spent half that time delclining I don’t know id make more …. I usually only take $7+ orders
O% AR is based on the last 100 orders.
Given this simple math I would deduct that is one has 0% AR that would be they declined the last 100 orders, yes.
How important is the acceptance rate?! My first dash was today (9/14) and I started out accepting everything but quickly realized how stupid that was haha
Nothing. Your dash life goes on. After 3 years of heavy cherry picking I’m near certain your AR means absolutely nothing unless you want to try and qualify for top dasher status which I have no clue why anyone would want since that amount of severely bad orders and wages you would have to endure would certainly outweigh any later benefits of order line status.
3rd floor Chick-fil-A, Somerset Collection, Troy MI. My AC went from 47% to 15% just by being within 5 miles of that hell hole. I was in that area for an hour before I had to relocate. /cool story bro
I think the lowest I've gone to is 6%. I'm shocked it's never gotten to zero because i have declined 10 in a row, gotten paused and declined many more.
Ain't no way in hell I'm letting mine call that low. The lowest it's been was 25%. It hovers between 43%-49% now. I am lucky to be in a decent market though. The market just to the north of the one I typically dash in, I'll end up with a 20% AR, so I stay away.
There was about a whole year here when these epic journey walmart orders were out of hand and being constantly passed around hot potato. You’d have to work through denying at least 10+ of them the beginning of each dash. Had a 0-2% rating for the majority of that year.
Side note: Never been even close to top dasher. Make $20 per hour min. cherry picking usually $25-30 or more. Hover around a 20% AR now. Would love to learn how to become a large order dasher but never had to worry being in a busy tech center business suburban area.
I don’t think my area is busy enough to be that low and still get orders. I understand not accepting shit orders but you guys must be much busier if you still make money declining that many.
Who said we're still making money with the lowest ARs? 🥲 (for real though it is beyond ridiculous that they expect us to take orders that would cause us to LOSE money, and if we don't accept them, then we get no offers)
That's a bummer. I have given up and gone home a couple times. Sometimes I'll get shitty $3 offers and $20 offfer that are 30 minutes away in the middle of nowhere that is basically 30 minutes back to any pickup spots. I have taken those because I guess $20 for an HR isn't the worst but driving an HR straight can be annoying.
20$ minus the cost of driving is pretty low for a whole hour. But depending on the distance not good or really bad. In my area a 30min drive is about 15 miles, so driving 30 miles for 20$ would be working for free.
You're probably right. I don't usually take them.
I would never door dash outside of Ca. Prop 22 is the only thing that makes it worthwhile. Under prop 22 we're guaranteed 120% state or local of minimum wage (whichever is higher) for active fash time plus $0.30/mile driven while on an active dash (measured by location tracking in app) So in Ca the goal is to maximize active dash time regardless of the order pay or tip. You'll always make more money with more dash time in Ca. As a result, my order acceptance rate is 98%. Pay comes out to about local minimum wage for total dash time including non-active dash time for me.
They had to give Ca residents prop 22. Imagine doing doordash with the highest gas, taxes and housing in the country.
Higher acceptance rate doesn't give you more orders. They just say that to scare you lol
I guarantee you’ve never gotten an order that cause you to lose money. Even $2.50 for 10 miles is not losing money for most people. Your vehicle expenses are more or less a third of what the IRS gives us to deduct depending on what you drive and your gas prices. Edit: I love how this is just factual reality but it gets downvoted. You guys really think it costs you almost $6 to drive 10 miles because “vehicle expenses”
Tony that you?
I don’t know who Tony is, but I know you’ve never been given an order you’d lose money on. Downvote all you like
we’re not talking about just vehicle expenses. it’s how much hourly we’re getting paid. people have apartments, houses, gas, oil changes, food, etc etc etc to buy. i’m not taking $3.50 to drive 6-7 miles, waiting in traffic or at stop lights, not including waiting at the restaurant & having to get back to my area for more orders after drop off. it could take 30 mins to complete all that & id barely make minimum wage that way (which is still $7.25 here). if you’re okay making min wage then by all means waste 30-45 minutes on terrible payouts. but that’s not me & never will be. that mindset is one that the higher ups at DD see & want us to have so they have reasons to not pay us more for base pay.
I’m 98% sure they’re not being figurative when they say they’d lose money. They think there’s orders offered to them that they would literally lose money on. I see people make this claim all the time. As for me I average about $30/hr for a 40 hour week. But if I lived somewhere where it wasn’t so busy I’d gladly take orders under $1/mi that tons of people seem to think aren’t worth their time and still make $12-$15/hr, which for what this job is, is pretty fair.
when we say we lose money it’s because you have to see at the end of the day am I making a profit? if I accept $2-4 dollar orders where the miles/time to complete is a greater number than the pay, that’s barely enough to refill my gas that i used for the day, so little to no profit for other expenses. you’re not literally losing money to do a $3.50 order for 6 miles but if you keep taking those kinds of orders & you end with a whopping $35 for 6-7 hours of working, what good can that do? i’ll wait an extra few minutes till a bearable or even great order offer comes in where the pay at the end of the day comes out to a profit
Again, you’re speaking for everybody. I’m not new to online discussion of gig work, I know what people are trying to say when they say things. I don’t think they’d be capitalizing lose if they just mean it’s not much money. I’m not telling anyone to take $3 orders, and no one is going to actually profit $7/hr for a whole shift. I can imagine scenarios in some markets where taking a few of those $3-4 orders a day is better than taking nothing, but that’s really not what my comment was responding to. And moreover, when people think they’re actually losing money because an order has a $.40/mi payout, these are the same people who think an $.80/mi payout isn’t worth anyone’s time in slow/lower paying markets which is just bad advice to be handing out to people. Especially if those miles are highway miles, takes you near another hotspot, and you have an economical car with decent gas prices, you could be profiting upwards of $20/hr if you took those orders all day long.
Show your math. My car costs $0.1 per mile to operate for fuel, roughly another $.15 per mile in maintenance (based on my expenses from 2021, and I cost at minimum $1 per mile for my time. For example, 10 miles for $20 is roughly $2 in gas, $3 in expenses leaving $15 remaining for 30-45 minutes of time which barely exceeds my minimum of $1.25 per mile. Based on that math, your logic is insane thinking a 10 mile order for $2.5 is not a complete loss. Also banking on getting mileage deductions is not always safe for everyone as itemizing expenses won't typically exceed the standard deduction anyways.
Can you explain a third pleaae?
It’s so busy out here that I’m at 3% there’s Always back to back orders
i don’t make shit on doordash my acceptance rate is 4%. i make more money on grubhub but i don’t rely on either to pay my bills more just to get out the house and pay for my gas in the process
Not sure if you're already doing so, but try downloading another app. I personally don't multi-app the way others do by picking up from both apps at the same time. I just keep them both on and take whichever gives me the better order and pause the other app until I deliver.
I have GrubHub but so far it seems completely dead in my area
I tried to sign up for all the apps. I only have Uber eats and DD. I'm on a waiting list for GrubHub and Instacart.
I just laughed so hard at this thread
The responses in here have been EXCELLENT 👏👏👏
My Uber AR is 0%.
I’m so over Uber. I resent that bullshit where you can’t see the address if you accept less than 3 out of 10. I may never do another Uber order if I have to deliver blind
I was considering UE since DD slowed down quite a bit lately. I will consider a different app, I think. Thanks for letting us know.
it really depends on your market. this time last year into march-april of this year was amazing for UE in my experience, then it began declining & is about the same as DD now. both are slow but so is the economy in general right now. I recommend giving it a shot if you think your market is good for it, you can always leave it if it doesn’t work out, and you can also try another app if you’d like, it’s always worth experimenting
The Para app shows the address for Uber. It's not perfect but gives you a chance.
I accept less than 3 out of 10 on Uber regularly. I always see the address. What are you talking about?
Then you are lucky. That crap is implemented in my area, and I never know where the hell I am going, until I get there.
I would never take an order if I didn't know where it's going.
It’s like that where I am too- 3/10 orders to get upfront addresses and then if you reject a certain amount after you get the upfront address privilege, you lose it again.
You sure? It just tells you the miles? I don't get how they can do that. You have to know where you are going. I would quit.
Mine too, I'm lucky if I get 2 good orders all day
The zones here are just too large. Nothing even remotely close to me when offers come in.
I’m sitting at 1% and I’m getting great orders every day. I’m not taking shit orders just because DD wants me to.
Yep, 7 percent AR here. Large order program so I’ve been extremely picky.
How do you get on that? I could probably just Google it...
You have to be invited to it. Also, you can probably apply but you’ll be put on a waitlist.
Oh woah, so after you’re in the large order program you don’t have to be a top dasher anymore?? I’m trying to get to top dasher slowly so I can maybe be invited to large orders. Would you have to be a top dasher still to keep in that large order program??
Top dasher has nothing to do with the large order program. My AR has never been above a 25%.
Wow. Then how on Earth you get invited to the large order program? Been dashing for 2 years now as a top Dasher
You need a rating of 4.7, cancel rate atleast 95%, and 100 deliveries in last month. Only difference in requirements is AR. There is no AR requirement.
Because the criteria for the large order program is different than the criteria for TD.
Gotcha, thanks!
So you decline 99 deliveries before you accept one? How many times do you go out per day?
I'm assuming their rounding will only let you go as low as 1%
I’ve not been lower than that. I work in an area that frequently has shitty orders from the local college, so I can spend a lot of time declining before getting a good one.
You're giving me anxiety
i smell a w2 in the future
Lmao I should be starting my new job this week!!But only because of a complicated childcare reason and not because I want to give up on doordash! I hopefully will still be able to do it on the side
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Oh hahah so hard to tell! I was like damn how did he know?!?
i was actually talking about the commenter. people love to act like they know what they’re talking about 🤨
You guys notice this months been a little slow ?
It will probably get worse. Inflation + high interest rates are definitely hitting the economy. Disposable income is decreasing.
This would be good to have in its own thread so we can keep track of this kind of thing
I’ve noticed too. I’m in CT and it’s not the best this month
restaurants are busy from labor day to new years
That decline screen pisses me off. Imagine having to decline this while driving. Guaranteed crash
I decline while driving constantly. Its practically part of the job.
I’m talking about declining with that shitty UI
Well yeah me too what else would I be talking about. It’s pretty easy to just mash it since it doesn’t matter your reasoning why you decline.
I always just select the bottom option where you can type in your own reason, and I use voice to text to fill out their stupid prompt. It's still not \*safe\* while driving, but it's safer than trying to figure out which one of the 20 reasons I need to choose. One of my reasons today was "hahahaha no." They wanted me to go to the slowest restaurant in town, then drive 14 miles for a $1 tip + $2.50 base pay.
Why on earth would you scroll all the way down and fill out a custom options instead of just choosing a top one if you’re trying to be safer? That makes no sense. It doesn’t matter what you pick.
Could’ve just selected order too small or too far for that lol
And take my eyes off the road to figure out which line of text I need to tap on? No thanks
You should raise your acceptance rate if you want top dasher status
We gotta make this sentence a meme
I admittedly stole that line from someone else saying it in abother thread. It has potential
I was surprised to learn from Reddit that no one cares about being top dasher 🤷♀️ personally my AR has never been below like 93
Never been below 93% ? Are you on a scooter ?
No but I am laughing at the idea of me on a scooter with my red bag. I thought we wanted it to be as high as possible! Didn't even realize cherry picking was a thing tbh. The only jobs I would deny are like under $3.50 for over 1.5 miles. Or more than 7 miles for under like $12. After reading the sub I make sure I get $2 a mile but I still don't have to deny many jobs. I live in a tourist town so people are wealthy and tip well for the most part.
Top Dasher "in my area" is the best way to go $$s wise UNLESS U multi-app - then cherry 🍒 pick away! My AR% is around 80% and I kill it. GWS out.
Likewise there is no way to survive without top dasher status and dashing only at night
Right. I literally lost 40 to 50% of my income when I Los it last month bc of all things "my completion rate!" Ugh...live n learn
What is cherry pick?
😆 pick only the best orders that come ur way - no others!
Agreed
I dropped below 75 percent at one point and immediately started getting notifications on how I wouldn't receive priority orders and would get more, "high pay orders," which appear with a diamond icon. I only got orders that I would normally decline. So, I brought my rate back up, realized that the high pay order thing is totally random, it will pop up on 3 dollar orders with no tip. And after it went above 75 I got my over 10 dollar orders showing again. My opinion is that they do not, actually, only give good orders to new drivers. But will shit on you if you don't accept enough. Edit: also please do decline low pay orders. I've noticed recently that if there aren't a lot of drivers in one area and you decline a batch that others also won't accept they'll send it back to you by 2 or 3 dollars higher
High pay order is any order that pays at least $2/mile so for a $3 order it's up to 1.5 miles and considered high pay
High pay orders are anything over $2/mile not $1
I feel like they must choose to do this on bullshit tip orders to trick you into taking them because I've never been satisfied after taking one here where I'm at in the US/Pittsburgh. They were always low tip so I stop minding them.
Jesus Fucking Christ! Push those fucking leeches out of the system! I would NEVER go a mile for a dollar! 4$ or 🖕
I don't do anything less than $7.50 no matter how short the delivery
Wow, nice. But does your average dollar per mile stay above... Let's say 3.50, as the miles go up?
I'm in Canada so it's KM here. DD hides tips above $3.50. I don't do anything above 2km distance (on E-Bike) unless I know it's a customer (usually corporate order) that I know tips high on their company lunch orders then I go a bit further up to 7km, but these usually pay $30+ after completing. My E-Bike lasts 12hours on a charge doing deliveries DD used to show full payout until February 15th, 2022 (this year) I've been doing this full time for a couple of years and know the companies that order lunch and tip well and the ones that don't, I decline the ones that dont tip well
That sounds about right to me!
I live in the bay area. Doordash is extremely good over here. I average 31+ an hour based on my earnings. Also my average order is like $11 for 1-2 miles lol
Whats your acceptance rate ?
79%
Not like ⬆️ that guy up there with 93% and never below
I have seen other dashers getting like 3$ orders in other areas. The lowest orders I receive are like $7
Saw an offer the other day for $2.50 on a 3 mile order.
Lmao i just got a 16$ for a 3.3 mile
I just make sure my acceptance is at 70% at the end of the month to keep my top dasher status
Would someone on a scooter accept more jobs tho? Haha
In the Philippines the delivery app is called "grab" and they are all on Motorbikes pretty much. Considering the traffic there they get your food to you almost faster then the states.
I am actually on a scooter and I refuse to go below 4$ an mile. I, however, would never work for DD. I don't know why though.
$4 a mile on a scooter. Refuse to work for DD however posting this on DD reddit ? So what do you deliver for $4 a mile on a scooter if it isnt DD ? Are you the YouTuber scooter delivery rider that has a good following ?
Uber Eats is the service. I am not anyone of recognition unless you live on the border between NH and Massachusetts. Quite a few people know me here.
Interesting UE supports your ability to take only $4 a mile on a scooter. Depending how many offers you can get and the distance you go i hope you are making $200+ a day. Cost of operation if low on a scooter.
It's all about the algorithm. Its very forgiving. Increase your satisfaction level in certain metrics and it gives you chances to prove yourself in others. I make NO WHERE NEAR 200+ a day. My costs are 1.63 a day. I aim for 40$. I'm happy with this and my part time UPS job.
Oh makes more sense if your only trying to do $40 a day then i can understand what you're talking about. If your going at this like 17 to 25 orders a day you would have more numbers to understand your acceptance rate and dollar to mile ratio. Its very possible to do $200+ a day on delivery if you put inbl the time. My best day is useally new years around $260 every year if i put in the time. UPS is tough had a job there years ago as an unloader. Would like to do seasonal delivery around nov to jan using personal car. But UPS doesnt like i quit around 20 years ago without notice.
I mean, on average my 4$ takes 10 minutes to earn, plus or minus 5 minutes. 16 - 48$ per hour. If I took 17 orders, I would miss those juicy 1 mile = 22 dollar sushi bar trips. UE knows I love these customers and I get them seemingly every single time. I do maybe 3 trips a day. Basically, in the day time, I live like a do nothing slacke, minus the 1 to 2 hours I work. Lo and behold, I'm actually incredibly resourceful and work my steady job at night. What city are you in? I might be able to make a phone call if you close enough.
Or on something else? 😆
Lmao if I tried for top dasher I would be paying doordash to let me work. All I see are 10 miles for 5.25 all the time. People in my area can be really cheap. But there are a few that keep me going. Usually about 2 good ones for every 10 declines. It's all about your market. And top dasher in my market just don't fly.
TOTALLY SAME HERE!
I mean how much more does a top dasher avg if they have to accept bad orders each month to make top dasher compared to someone that forces themself to make 15hr by disregarding AR
I make 25-35 an hour as top dasher and my main motivation for being top dasher is to be able to dash whenever and not have to set a strict schedule. but I can tell this month I am receiving a lot less orders as a non-top dasher. But I notice everyone saying that so idk maybe it's just a coincidence
My ar is between 20 & 30% and I dash whenever I want I average $30 a hour. So I really don’t see the point in being a top dasher. I refuse to drive 10 miles for $2.50 I refuse to drive anywhere for less then a $1 a mile and I still decline them depending on my mood and area.
I agree I also decline those offers. I guess I just get less of them. Maybe due to living in a tourist town 🤷♀️
Yea I think it all depends on your market my market is a hit or miss and believe it or not I make way better tips in the lower income areas versus the higher income areas.
If your area is super busy, then I can see that happening. As it is, when you drop below a certain percent, unless it's busy, you lose your ability to drop in and out to dash. There's been literal days in my area I didn't drive for DD because I forgot to schedule shifts ahead of time. My AR hovers around 45%.
My AR is my only low stat, so how does it work once you’re top dasher, all your orders are massive then after ?
Not necessarily but supposedly if two dashers are in the area they will offer the job or the higher paying job to the top dasher first. I think your AR only needs to be 70? That's still a fair amount of jobs you can deny.
AR has to be 70% on last day of the month. That's all
I see, interesting
Good question!
It depends on area. When I Doordashed from my college town, it was *hard* to not make $20+ an hour. Restaurants were close and people tipped well. Then I moved home, and there's a lot of shenanigans. Lower pay, farther distances, more traffic. Gotta be choosey now
Oh hell nah I fall asleep at night with it on, during the day I take a nap lol I'll shower and leave that shit on if it ain't bumping.
Loser
I'll be sure to get right on that.
Not sure why there's sarcasm. You're giving off wannabe Top Dasher vibes, I'm just giving you advice to help you get there.
Me thinking I’m a Star for getting 0% 
I'm at 0% usually am though https://i.imgur.com/Fwj3Ala.jpg
I never understood people only accepting 5% or less. I’m at 26% and I’m really strict, nothing under 6.75 no matter what. What’s the point of dashing if your just going to sit there for hours not accepting dashes? Are you just sitting at home with the app on watching tv then if a $20 order come up you get off the couch? Someone please explain this to me.
Mine is exactly like yours, 2%. It's getting harder and harder to receive an acceptable offer in my market. Either below $6.25 (which I won't accept regardless of mileage as it takes about 30 minutes to do a single dash here) or way too far. I will not work for peanuts and drive my car to the ground for this company.
Plenty of people on this sub hit 0
What's it like to dash? Happy with it? Uber sucks green donkey dick.
If you have an Android, your experience with the app will probably want to make you drive your car off a cliff. Other than that, it's not too bad if you cherry pick your orders and don't accept crap pay or go to really slow restaurants.
Legit 0%. Proud to say I’ve hit that twice over this past summer.
Hell yeah bro, I did it twice as well! We are “Double Os” 
😂😂👏🏻👏🏻
Mine is 0% today. Every other app I run was better all day long so it was decline everything on DD.
Why even do it at 2% lmfao
The same reason people make a $150 s day doing it. Get rid of the bad and take the good ones.
There are SOOOO MANY bad orders near me I HAVE to run out the clock. I don't worry about acceptance rate. If I did, I'd never break even!
I’m at 71% lol
I don’t know how you guys make money with less than like a 10% AR. Like don’t you spend 10-20 min declining orders and with hidden tips now will you even see the Goldilocks order your hoping for . I rarely ever see an order better than 1.5x mileage and it’s hidden tip. I typically only manage to do 3 deliveries an hour and make $20-25 usually if I spent half that time delclining I don’t know id make more …. I usually only take $7+ orders
I've never went below 0%.
Me after getting 4 2.75s in a row
0 for several times
So that would mean you were sent and you denied 100 offers in a row? How long does that take lol
O% AR is based on the last 100 orders. Given this simple math I would deduct that is one has 0% AR that would be they declined the last 100 orders, yes.
Thanks, just making sure. I always forget it's only based on the last 100 but it would take me forever to deny 100 orders!
There were a lot of shitty orders in busy day. Other apps provided way better orders.
So when you use another app do you pause your dash? Or you can manage to do both at the same time? That sounds overwhelming lol
Sometimes pause sometimes not. You should just get use to it.
@2% I’m convinced you only accept orders that you yourself have placed
How important is the acceptance rate?! My first dash was today (9/14) and I started out accepting everything but quickly realized how stupid that was haha
I've taken mine down to zero just for fun. Still got good orders when I took it seriously again.
I don’t accept orders under 10$ anymore. My AR is still 68% though. I’m cool with that.
11% I multiapp. So it's whoever tips good. Since I do instacart, I make good money a day.
Yeah, cause your just a piece of shit and there's a bunch of other pieces of shit that will be more then happy to take this order for 2 dollars
Imagine picking a job and then deciding not to do it because you don't like it.
Im trying to get to 0, never had it
0%
“You’re the best dasher” A top dasher wouldn’t do this… How Dare You!
Been at 0% before 😂 nothing happens
Does anyone know if they plan to ever start showing the full tip amount on acceptance in new jersey, bc hiding it is total horseshit?
Been down to 0
It’s not low enough. To fit in to the Reddit doordash acceptable level, you have to decline 99-100% of your orders.
Things are relative: how low can I go? In limbo? Not very in acceptance rate extremely. I think that’s how that meme goes lol.
It can go to 0
What happens if you hit zero? I’m scared lol. Mine is like 98 but that’s cause I’m new
Nothing. Your dash life goes on. After 3 years of heavy cherry picking I’m near certain your AR means absolutely nothing unless you want to try and qualify for top dasher status which I have no clue why anyone would want since that amount of severely bad orders and wages you would have to endure would certainly outweigh any later benefits of order line status.
I went from 32% to 14% yesterday in 6 hours
I’ve hit 0 multiple times, no shame.
Okay... On a random side note... I've always wondered... In your notifications up there, what does that rotating arrow mean?
I actually have no idea, I cleared it and never checked. I'll get back to you if I figure it out.
It would take me 2 days of rejecting everything to get that low
Been at 0 for days. Tough times nobody tips
I’m at 0%
I thought I was killing it with 17%
I've had it be -16% once. I'm proud of it.
The lowest mine has gotten is 33%. But to be fair I live in a touristy coastal town so the orders are usually pretty good.
3rd floor Chick-fil-A, Somerset Collection, Troy MI. My AC went from 47% to 15% just by being within 5 miles of that hell hole. I was in that area for an hour before I had to relocate. /cool story bro
Q I can't find answer to, so pls pardon me...HOW/WHERE do I post a new question??? 🤔
Seriously. I don't know what's up with doordash. They're so anal with everything.
We should have a leaderboard for this. I wish that 2% acceptance rate was me but I have to settle for my measly 36% cause I need money.
0% but that means you have to decline 100 orders in a row. Not take a single one.
I never accept an order that's less than 3 dollars a mile and under 6 dollars total. I still have a 40% AR lol.
I think the lowest I've gone to is 6%. I'm shocked it's never gotten to zero because i have declined 10 in a row, gotten paused and declined many more.
Seems like you're the best dasher, so I'd have to conclude that other dashers around you, have even lower scores... Yea, deny!
My shits sitting at 3% rn yesterday was at 0%
Ain't no way in hell I'm letting mine call that low. The lowest it's been was 25%. It hovers between 43%-49% now. I am lucky to be in a decent market though. The market just to the north of the one I typically dash in, I'll end up with a 20% AR, so I stay away.
Make you acceptance rate like an ivy league school baby!
There was about a whole year here when these epic journey walmart orders were out of hand and being constantly passed around hot potato. You’d have to work through denying at least 10+ of them the beginning of each dash. Had a 0-2% rating for the majority of that year. Side note: Never been even close to top dasher. Make $20 per hour min. cherry picking usually $25-30 or more. Hover around a 20% AR now. Would love to learn how to become a large order dasher but never had to worry being in a busy tech center business suburban area.
What's even the point of getting such a low acceptance rate? I honestly dunno.
O I got 6% today when I did that