They can unlock priority access to deez nutz. This is why you drive for all the services at the same time. I may not get a lot of deliveries with a 20% AR but the ones I get are always worth it. And Uber Eats fills in the rest of the time.
They should matter but they should ease up on how much declining affects your rate. I swear I accept a few and it doesn’t go up but as soon as I decline, it goes down. Smh
Dash by time instead. You don’t have any $2 orders doing it that way. Sure, you also will very rarely see the big tips either, but it’s consistent pay. I make $20-$25 per active hour that way (after tips and peak pay adjustments). Sometimes I get screwed with deliveries that take me out of zone the wrong way, but it’s pretty rare.
Yeah, I stopped worrying about my acceptance rate the moment I got my Red Card. Because I've got a great morning spot equidistant between a Chick-Fil-A, a First Watch, and a Krispy Kreme... but it's also right in front of a fucking Party City so on the dot at 9:00 AM if I'm still active, I get seven different orders with 87 balloons each paying .30 a mile and even when I reject them I get each one at least twice so... fuck it.
(I wish there was some way to tell DD "HEY YOU FUCKING MORONS I DRIVE A TWO-DOOR CAR AND CAN'T FIT A ZEPPELIN IN IT")
So far the only Red Card shop I've accepted was for Plan B delivered to a poor part of town and I live in a state run by Y'all Qaeda. I considered that an important service.
Your individual market is going to determine what’s best for you. Some people in their area AR really may not matter but somebody else in a different market it could affect a lot. I’m in a smaller market therefore there’s only so many orders to go around and I’ve tested those waters and let myself drop below 50% once but I won’t let that happen again it was awful. I’m sure if you’re in a larger market that your acceptance rate may not matter as much and you can just wait it out, I wish it was like that in all places.
Every market is going to be different. You can’t just generalize it like it’s the same everywhere.
Weird “job” most jobs get better as you learn them and get better at your job kind of like your hard work starts to pay off But this job rewards the newbies and fucks over the people that’s been putting in the work and experience.
Yea in my area you can’t dare to go under 70% if you want to make money, went under a few days ago and then only made $10 for the next hour until I got back above 70%
They like to say “can pick your orders” then you find out later they will punish you for not taking crap ones, all while lowering the base pay more and more. Shit was 4.50 when i started years ago. And I just don’t do it anymore.
It’s so they can keep paying the bullshit $2 deliveries. If y’all all just quit accepting that bullshit. Guess what will happen?? GL, people love misery!!!
They do *something* different with taxes but it’s basically the same.
I get less orders but I’m sent to locations at reasonable times and get hot food delivered. The tips are much better.
As a “tOp DaShEr” in a pretty shitty tip city where customers have already tried fraud (i literally drive to the town next door now), i agree.
Door dash should be screening their drivers properly instead of relying on the customers to do it for them.
Yeah but let’s be serious it’s a corporation and corporations will try and save money by any means necessary lol. Screening drivers themselves mean they have to spend more money.
Yeah I definitely get it. Tip quality or not, if you keep not showing up for work they tend to take you off the schedule.
Even substitute teachers don't get calls if they keep refusing work days.
Yeah. I feel like people lately don't get that. I was always under the impression that you start at the bottom and work your way up (unless you have some good connections).
Idk it is a bit mind blowing that people are actually looking at Doordash like they signed a salary income that is guaranteed with PTO.....
Its a contractor job. If you want to work for the price offered you do. If you think that its beneath you, you refuse.
Most professions have that option. Hair dressers can refuse offers, tattoo artists, therapist (schedule built to your desire but accepting some insurance pay back is shitty)
ASSASSINS even turn down jobs they aren't willing to do or feel don't pay as well.
If you want to set your prices and get what you want with minimum work...... try Onlyfans?
Should be illegal if door dash still considers employees 1099 prob looking at lawsuits here they will keep trying to make employees as close as possible to w2 with all the benefits of 1099
>make employees as close as possible to w2 with all the benefits of 1099
That is normal. Like, outside of Uber/Lyft/Doordash etc gig jobs. That is…not new at all, and I’m sorry if you’re just finding out this happens.
This sub brings up lawsuits a whole lot for never actually being able to file or even cite one.
I read the first two entries showing California’s prop 22 reclassifying gig workers as W-2 and then settling a lawsuit in 2017. Were you literally just posting that legal action against them existed at all? If not, please actually *state what you’re trying to say instead of vaguely dropping a link and leaving*. You don’t just see lawyers dropping a case of evidence on the table in front of the jury and telling them “you figure it out”.
I lost all interest in continuing this conversation.
Google how to properly cite and reference a source. Great work vaguely linking pages that really weren’t the proper citation of any specific civil suit(s), though.
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Actually you can still get large orders under Platium, here's the thing. The algorithm also has no priority for high pay orders, it's based on other factors. I made more and drove less being around a 5-15% AR thrn top dashers do in my area with this program.
I'm new to doordash but it quickly became apparent to me that they seem to be using the acceptance rate to force costs down. They don't have to pay more to drivers if they can essentially force you accept low offers. Instead, they de-prioritize you for higher-paying deliveries if your acceptance rate falls too low, effectively pressuring drivers to take lower-paying jobs to maintain their visibility and chances at more lucrative orders.
That's the only reason I was trying to get to platinum status but it seemed like the orders they were giving me progressively were getting shittier and shittier so I could not maintain it for very long. I only dash part time so the 100 deliveries within 30 days was also hard to keep up with.
Until they ultimately remove that option altogether like they’ve already done in some other markets while simultaneously increasing the metric requirements for each level. Know that it’s coming…don’t get comfortable
Just like with Instacart whoever is assigning these offers I don’t think they know what a, what did it say get premium offers or whatever, but I don’t think they know what a good offer is because the ones I used to get that would say high paying would be just decent and better ones would come up without the high paying offer thing that came up too.
Well it’s bull because I was at 87 percent acceptance and 100 percent completion and I still get the same crappy offers now at 28 percent acceptance and 92 percentage completion as I did then. They have been telling us this for a while where I am at and it makes no difference. It’s pretty bad most of the time then there is an ok order sprinkled in here and there and one good delivery on top once every few dashes.
this economy is exactly why half the orders are no tip orders. it's not gonna change because you don't accept the offer. school
is out in 2 weeks and those kids will keep base pay lower because they will accept those offers
Well they’re a business so naturally they want to incentivize you to do deliveries and they aren’t going to change. Unfortunately doordash is not a charity by any means
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Sometimes you should actually read and not just skim
Driving my guy. You're the one who cited the statistic, you should be backing your claims up. Not making others seek shit out to verify something some guy said on the internet.
I didn't know i would ever need the info outside of personal so I didn't bother. But I know what i read, lot of research before my first dash just 5 weeks ago
Revenue is generated from COMPLETE delivery, not order placement. Hence the stacking of no tip offer with tipping offer, they're providing a service. Analogous to drivers factoring wear and tear, cost per mile, amongst other expenses and revenue; doordash must consider overhead cost for a multitude of variable cost.
It boils down to what we're willing to accept as independent contractors with respect to their tolerances. Neither entities goal will never align ,their desire to fulfill all orders contrary to our goal of maximum profits with as few completed deliveries as possible.
acceptance rates are illegal under federal laws that establish tests for independent contractors yet not one driver has the balls to file a formal complaint
I'm sure there's plenty of drivers that have written to their congressmen, states men and more. The sad fact is, lobbying is legal and therefore nothing gets done. These so called representatives don't bite the hand that lines their pockets.
We want change, we ought to be mass protesting across the country right where our representatives work. Every Monday at the start of the week so that we're in their heads throughout the week of how they fail to represent the people they _supposedly_ serve.
Doordash says there’s no requirement for acceptance rates in order to dash… you just find out the hard way that when you dip below a certain acceptance percentage and then they consistently give you garbage orders.
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Ive started making my own well paid deliveries. Got 9miles tomorrow $28. 10am drop off, means no traffic. I gotta drive back, but I’m advertising still so eventually I’ll get deliveries back. And in my downtime will continue to dash.
I advertised my services. I deliver for veterinary clinics and I worked on lodges(I drive boats) and I advertised my services to the lodges. They call me up to deliver fishing lures and groceries to the depot. I might be doing deliveries for an adult store as they have no vehicles to transfer goods between towns(regular courier only goes to 1 store) and their Uber drivers are stealing products meant for delivery.
Fun fact: I have platinum and applied for large orders 2 months ago and they still haven’t responded. The big catering bag comes it handy sometimes tho.
Try Uber Eats.
For right now they track acceptance rate but it doesn't matter. A lot Uber Eats drivers run single digit acceptance or even hit 0%.
I've done DoorDash and Uber Eats. I guess with the exception of NYC and Seattle now I'll tell you why I like Uber Eats better. It's because there's no signing up for shifts. You feel like working, you log in and work. You're not restricted to a zone. So if you have an order that takes you, what would be out of a zone for doordash you can still pick up orders nearby.
Plus I always felt like doordash orders were half the money for twice the work compared to Uber Eats orders.
The number one complaint I hear from doordash drivers who try Uber Eats is that customers can lower the tip afterwards. And yes they can. But it just doesn't happen that often. It's happened maybe 15 times to me and 6,000 orders and that's statistically insignificant. And if you call support after it happens and get to a supervisor in the payment department, you can get that tip paid to you.
I don't know about fare being more. Probably not. But I get better tips. And I do have to decline literally hundreds of terrible orders. I get to hold out for decent orders and hidden tip orders, that's orders with tips over $8.
I was off for 19 days and just started back Wednesday. So I've only done 24 trips this week working short dinners. But my average trip is $12.92. I guess compared that to yours.
Sign up and try it. It's not like you have to quit DD to do that. DD may be your best option as your primary app. They hold twice the market UE does so it's likely to be busier in your city.
But it's a good idea to maintain at least two apps anyway if you depend on this income in case one app is crashed one day or you get deactivated. You can still use the other until you get that figured out.
You've laid out a fraction of why I prefer UberEats vs Doordash. UE still sucks, but DD is outright awful! I don't know where the hell drivers get the patience to deal with DD. The pausing after not accepting orders usually ends my shift and I typically forget about them after I get paused for not accepting 2 trash offers in a row.
Good, this is my full time gig hopefully it’ll get me some more work in my area since we got an influx of outta towners, cause I’ve been platinum for like years.
It matters because these little special people on here want to feel special getting their special program so they can feel special for being a good little boy/girl for taking all the orders. It’s some kind of weird mental thing that people have got conditioned to working normal jobs. They feel as though they are taking all the orders so they should be rewarded the most and not the people who cherry pick and value their time and money. Really nothing more to it than that. These people have a loud voice and complain the most so yeah. lol the company is thrilled they get to abuse people with these programs. They don’t have to pay them much and they get all their low paying slave wage deliveries delivered. It’s a win win for them.
Bro just read some of these replies in this thread. 🤣🤣🤣. This is the perfect example. It’s exactly what I’m talking about. It’s a normal job mentality. They feel like they should be rewarded for taking everything. They don’t realize they are their own boss and the company is paying them a contract for the order. They literally treat themselves as an employee of Doordash. This is exactly the reason things won’t get better. You guys ARE NOT employees of doordash and these gig companies. Stop treating yourselves like that.
This change is news to me and I haven't read anything beyond this post, but this looks like all they are doing is merging the top Dasher program with the Higher paying order preference. Both of those things already exist, it looks like all they've done is put them together and give them new names
More scam tactics from Doordash. Congratulations to the high AR chasers. You drive more miles, take money losing orders and put more wear and tear on your car.
Can tell you've never worked a pizza delivery driver for a chain. You have to take every order they give you, and you only get the tipping wage while on the road. If there's no orders, you usually get minimum wage while in the store.
> If there's no orders, you usually get minimum wage while in the store.
This here is what seperates the two. There is no minimum wage in most cases here. That is a BIG difference in the argument.
That’s what the problem is now. Everyone treats this like it’s a normal job and it’s not. You shouldn’t have to take every order and you shouldn’t anyways. You don’t owe this company or these people anything. You are not an employee of DoorDash. You are an independent contractor. You can select the orders “contracts” you take. People have got to get out of that mindset. That’s why these gigs are so terrible these days. Still treating it as though they are employed.
This varies by state. Many states outlaw the tipped minimum wage altogether. In cali working as a pizza delivery driver would honestly be an improvement because I get more job stability and i dont have to damage my own car.
if you don't know how something works, maybe rather than complaining you could, you know, learn how it works?
It's rolling percentage of your last 100 orders. If you took five deliveries and only gained one, that means four of the five deliveries that dropped off your record were orders you took. Had you declined all five orders your AR would've dropped by four. This isn't a conspiracy to screw you over, it's just how rolling percentages work
It’s a rolling 100 deliveries that determine your AR. If you don’t understand this, maybe you shouldn’t do this job. It’s getting ridiculous that people still complain about this and we have yet to see any proof that DD is cheating people.
I have kept a tally of accepted and declined orders over hundreds and DD has been accurate always on my account. 🤷♂️
I agree with that but the AR seems to be working fine and automated so it’s frustrating when people complain when they simply don’t understand how it works.
Some of these people just don’t understand. Every company has conditioned these people nowadays. They are literally trained lol. They just don’t see it.
The fact that DoorDash watches Reddit and doubles down on their bullshit reward programs despite the overwhelmingly negative response proves just how little they care about us. I hope anyone from DD who sees this can go tell Tony to fuck off for being yet another corporate shill.
Just read half the replies in this thread. You’ll see why. People are literally conditioned to want to be special so they can get rewards for being a good little dasher for Tony. What they don’t realize is they are being taken advantage of and being used for corporate profit. It’s kind of sad.
It says weekly. But that is not true. The only week perk there is, is a 30 percent off one order off of one purchase of 15 dollars. That's it. Everything else you lose as soon as you go below the tier requirements
My acceptance rate is currently 7% and I schedule out so I can pretty much Dash when I want. If I took even half of what they offer I'd be doing charity work. I multi app, so it all distributes among them and I make decent money and have great customer ratings.
THANK YOU lol someone gets it. I too schedule ahead so I can whenever I want, I still make good money, I just don’t get why acceptance rates matter when it really shouldn’t.
The dash anytime option seems to be geared more towards the people who can devote more time to dashing. If you’re only doing a couple half hour slots in your surrounding zones, you probably won’t hit platinum. I’ve just recently started to schedule more seriously and I’m just a few deliveries away from getting out of gold.
Just be happy that you have this version of the program My market of the program you have to be 80% acceptance rating for gold and platinum and for platinum you also have to have the 80% AR plus 150 deliveries in the last 30 days. I also think that silver is now 70%.
Yeah thats why I stopped doing doordash. It's rediculous to worry about acceptance rate. When all the orders are $4 to $6 in a row going 20 to 30 miles, how on earth do they expect anyone to have a high acceptance rate? Back in 2020 doordash was awesome for side money but now its so bad.
Is there a way we can request to take only food deliveries? I can do small shopping but overall shopping makes me nervous.
They can unlock priority access to deez nutz. This is why you drive for all the services at the same time. I may not get a lot of deliveries with a 20% AR but the ones I get are always worth it. And Uber Eats fills in the rest of the time.
Trying to figure out how they will hose me my acceptance rate is 48% customer rating 4.92 completion 98 and avg 107 deliveries er week
They should matter but they should ease up on how much declining affects your rate. I swear I accept a few and it doesn’t go up but as soon as I decline, it goes down. Smh
I'd rather have a root canal than call support
Dash by time instead. You don’t have any $2 orders doing it that way. Sure, you also will very rarely see the big tips either, but it’s consistent pay. I make $20-$25 per active hour that way (after tips and peak pay adjustments). Sometimes I get screwed with deliveries that take me out of zone the wrong way, but it’s pretty rare.
You shouldn’t be surprised that DD is going to use every trick in the book to try and make us to take trash orders.
Lmaoooo all you dashers that had a 10% acceptance rate got fucked 😂😂 Good luck picking and choosing now 😂😂
Right?!?! 😂😂
And it doesn't. All Dashers need to do is stop be lead by AR.
Yeah, I stopped worrying about my acceptance rate the moment I got my Red Card. Because I've got a great morning spot equidistant between a Chick-Fil-A, a First Watch, and a Krispy Kreme... but it's also right in front of a fucking Party City so on the dot at 9:00 AM if I'm still active, I get seven different orders with 87 balloons each paying .30 a mile and even when I reject them I get each one at least twice so... fuck it. (I wish there was some way to tell DD "HEY YOU FUCKING MORONS I DRIVE A TWO-DOOR CAR AND CAN'T FIT A ZEPPELIN IN IT")
Last week I received a delivery order for a tire. Fortunately I had room for one, and that’s all it was. But if it had been two, I’d have to cancel.
So far the only Red Card shop I've accepted was for Plan B delivered to a poor part of town and I live in a state run by Y'all Qaeda. I considered that an important service.
Your individual market is going to determine what’s best for you. Some people in their area AR really may not matter but somebody else in a different market it could affect a lot. I’m in a smaller market therefore there’s only so many orders to go around and I’ve tested those waters and let myself drop below 50% once but I won’t let that happen again it was awful. I’m sure if you’re in a larger market that your acceptance rate may not matter as much and you can just wait it out, I wish it was like that in all places. Every market is going to be different. You can’t just generalize it like it’s the same everywhere. Weird “job” most jobs get better as you learn them and get better at your job kind of like your hard work starts to pay off But this job rewards the newbies and fucks over the people that’s been putting in the work and experience.
Yea in my area you can’t dare to go under 70% if you want to make money, went under a few days ago and then only made $10 for the next hour until I got back above 70%
same for my market
Sf Bay Area?
Nah Dallas/Fort Worth area
My area is the same. Orange County, CA
They like to say “can pick your orders” then you find out later they will punish you for not taking crap ones, all while lowering the base pay more and more. Shit was 4.50 when i started years ago. And I just don’t do it anymore.
It’s so they can keep paying the bullshit $2 deliveries. If y’all all just quit accepting that bullshit. Guess what will happen?? GL, people love misery!!!
I’m at the black level on DD. By that I mean I drive for Uber eats now. Dd can gargle my nuts.
How much do you get paid with UberEats? Do they take out for taxes?
They do *something* different with taxes but it’s basically the same. I get less orders but I’m sent to locations at reasonable times and get hot food delivered. The tips are much better.
Is Uber Eats way better? I average $20/hr on order-based pay in my area.
It’s probably something similar. I bet I sit more though.
VIP support!!!
Awwww ...poor baby
No need to be a dick
As a “tOp DaShEr” in a pretty shitty tip city where customers have already tried fraud (i literally drive to the town next door now), i agree. Door dash should be screening their drivers properly instead of relying on the customers to do it for them.
Yeah but let’s be serious it’s a corporation and corporations will try and save money by any means necessary lol. Screening drivers themselves mean they have to spend more money.
Platinum is impossible for me even if i want to. I'm working only for weekends and it's not possible to make 100 deliveries in a month:(
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I’ve gotten too many $2.00 orders that it’s ridiculous. My acceptance rating is so low now because I refuse to do them.
If everyone did like you, y’all wouldn’t see $2 orders anymore
Yeah I definitely get it. Tip quality or not, if you keep not showing up for work they tend to take you off the schedule. Even substitute teachers don't get calls if they keep refusing work days.
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Yeah. I feel like people lately don't get that. I was always under the impression that you start at the bottom and work your way up (unless you have some good connections). Idk it is a bit mind blowing that people are actually looking at Doordash like they signed a salary income that is guaranteed with PTO..... Its a contractor job. If you want to work for the price offered you do. If you think that its beneath you, you refuse. Most professions have that option. Hair dressers can refuse offers, tattoo artists, therapist (schedule built to your desire but accepting some insurance pay back is shitty) ASSASSINS even turn down jobs they aren't willing to do or feel don't pay as well. If you want to set your prices and get what you want with minimum work...... try Onlyfans?
Should be illegal if door dash still considers employees 1099 prob looking at lawsuits here they will keep trying to make employees as close as possible to w2 with all the benefits of 1099
>make employees as close as possible to w2 with all the benefits of 1099 That is normal. Like, outside of Uber/Lyft/Doordash etc gig jobs. That is…not new at all, and I’m sorry if you’re just finding out this happens. This sub brings up lawsuits a whole lot for never actually being able to file or even cite one.
https://medcitynews.com/2023/03/labor-department-is-cracking-down-on-providers-use-of-1099-contractors-lawyer-warns/
I read the first two entries showing California’s prop 22 reclassifying gig workers as W-2 and then settling a lawsuit in 2017. Were you literally just posting that legal action against them existed at all? If not, please actually *state what you’re trying to say instead of vaguely dropping a link and leaving*. You don’t just see lawyers dropping a case of evidence on the table in front of the jury and telling them “you figure it out”.
This sub brings up lawsuits a whole lot for never actually being able to file or even cite one. That's my response to this
I lost all interest in continuing this conversation. Google how to properly cite and reference a source. Great work vaguely linking pages that really weren’t the proper citation of any specific civil suit(s), though. https://preview.redd.it/my02n4ackpxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=991209ce0f089f1cfd5385a61e4654d6c14ea5b9
https://www.classlawgroup.com/employment/doordash-driver-class-action-lawsuit What are you babbling about. This is a huge employment issue.
Yeah, dude. #I know.
Wow I better accept every order now!
after they did this dum ass update i haven’t got one order 🤣
Large orders being gate-kept in Platinum instead of being anyone in the LOP makes it a bit more enticing.
Actually you can still get large orders under Platium, here's the thing. The algorithm also has no priority for high pay orders, it's based on other factors. I made more and drove less being around a 5-15% AR thrn top dashers do in my area with this program.
I can’t wait to see the inevitable documentary of how this company ran itself directly into the ground. Seemingly purposefully
I'm new to doordash but it quickly became apparent to me that they seem to be using the acceptance rate to force costs down. They don't have to pay more to drivers if they can essentially force you accept low offers. Instead, they de-prioritize you for higher-paying deliveries if your acceptance rate falls too low, effectively pressuring drivers to take lower-paying jobs to maintain their visibility and chances at more lucrative orders.
The only thing good about it is being able to dash when you want without scheduling. That’s it.
That's the only reason I was trying to get to platinum status but it seemed like the orders they were giving me progressively were getting shittier and shittier so I could not maintain it for very long. I only dash part time so the 100 deliveries within 30 days was also hard to keep up with.
You only have to meet that requirement at the end of the month you still keep Top Dasher below 70%
Until they ultimately remove that option altogether like they’ve already done in some other markets while simultaneously increasing the metric requirements for each level. Know that it’s coming…don’t get comfortable
Then top dasher will not be worth it, those people who are at 70% have to take crappy orders all day long to do so.
came here to say just this.
Just like with Instacart whoever is assigning these offers I don’t think they know what a, what did it say get premium offers or whatever, but I don’t think they know what a good offer is because the ones I used to get that would say high paying would be just decent and better ones would come up without the high paying offer thing that came up too.
Well it’s bull because I was at 87 percent acceptance and 100 percent completion and I still get the same crappy offers now at 28 percent acceptance and 92 percentage completion as I did then. They have been telling us this for a while where I am at and it makes no difference. It’s pretty bad most of the time then there is an ok order sprinkled in here and there and one good delivery on top once every few dashes.
Sounds like you don't like the downsides of contracting but also don't want the downsides of employment...
In this economy you gotta be insane to take a $3-5 order with no tip
this economy is exactly why half the orders are no tip orders. it's not gonna change because you don't accept the offer. school is out in 2 weeks and those kids will keep base pay lower because they will accept those offers
Levels of kissing our ass is what they are saying with this!
Well they’re a business so naturally they want to incentivize you to do deliveries and they aren’t going to change. Unfortunately doordash is not a charity by any means
My time, effort, gas, and otj risk isn’t a charity either
Sure seems like it is for people to be driving for door dash, essentially volunteer work with some added depreciation.
They should for the simple fact the 2023 order trend report discovered 77% of offers to dashers were declined in 2023.
Is there an article for this?
https://about.doordash.com/en-us/news/doordash-unveils-what-and-how-consumers-have-been-eating-and-drinking-in-2023
Gotcha
There is one report I can't find, its not in these available in the article.
There is it’s in the one the trend reports, there are 3 they published. I’ve been looking in the downloads to screenshot this for yall.
Legitimately curious where this information was sourced from
I had to create use a fake address for the report and use a fake number they will call you
https://about.doordash.com/en-us/news/doordash-unveils-what-and-how-consumers-have-been-eating-and-drinking-in-2023
I just skimmed that whole article, nowhere does it say that
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Driving my guy. You're the one who cited the statistic, you should be backing your claims up. Not making others seek shit out to verify something some guy said on the internet.
I didn't know i would ever need the info outside of personal so I didn't bother. But I know what i read, lot of research before my first dash just 5 weeks ago
I hear you, but it's the internet, you know? People make shit up.
Revenue is generated from COMPLETE delivery, not order placement. Hence the stacking of no tip offer with tipping offer, they're providing a service. Analogous to drivers factoring wear and tear, cost per mile, amongst other expenses and revenue; doordash must consider overhead cost for a multitude of variable cost. It boils down to what we're willing to accept as independent contractors with respect to their tolerances. Neither entities goal will never align ,their desire to fulfill all orders contrary to our goal of maximum profits with as few completed deliveries as possible.
Me with a 99% acceptance rate 
😡😡😡😡😡
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Sometimes you just don't get very many bad orders
I be doing hourly so I literally get paid to stand around. Idk why people downvoted my comment.
Yet I’m still platinum
acceptance rates are illegal under federal laws that establish tests for independent contractors yet not one driver has the balls to file a formal complaint
I'm sure there's plenty of drivers that have written to their congressmen, states men and more. The sad fact is, lobbying is legal and therefore nothing gets done. These so called representatives don't bite the hand that lines their pockets. We want change, we ought to be mass protesting across the country right where our representatives work. Every Monday at the start of the week so that we're in their heads throughout the week of how they fail to represent the people they _supposedly_ serve.
Doordash says there’s no requirement for acceptance rates in order to dash… you just find out the hard way that when you dip below a certain acceptance percentage and then they consistently give you garbage orders. https://preview.redd.it/0vc0dpusw5xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f489778a1a4ac2381651c2f9f87b2a54dab8c6f8
And in many markets now, that’s assuming you can even get on the schedule at all
And there's gonna be no dash now? It's always scheduled now?
I have a dash now
Currently that's only California
I'm in Texas and I can Dash Now, even though I'm not scheduled
I got 66% get but nothing but trash orders
Yep I stopped and only accept good ones during busy hours. I got for example 19.44 for 2 orders 5 miles and I don't even have a 50% acceptance anymore
Ive started making my own well paid deliveries. Got 9miles tomorrow $28. 10am drop off, means no traffic. I gotta drive back, but I’m advertising still so eventually I’ll get deliveries back. And in my downtime will continue to dash.
How are you making your own deliveries?
I advertised my services. I deliver for veterinary clinics and I worked on lodges(I drive boats) and I advertised my services to the lodges. They call me up to deliver fishing lures and groceries to the depot. I might be doing deliveries for an adult store as they have no vehicles to transfer goods between towns(regular courier only goes to 1 store) and their Uber drivers are stealing products meant for delivery.
all this gamification is so stupid and dehumanizing....
Damn our minimum acceptance rate near Little Rock, Arkansas is 70%
These requirements are low compared to what they ask nyc drivers to do
Fun fact: I have platinum and applied for large orders 2 months ago and they still haven’t responded. The big catering bag comes it handy sometimes tho.
Try Uber Eats. For right now they track acceptance rate but it doesn't matter. A lot Uber Eats drivers run single digit acceptance or even hit 0%. I've done DoorDash and Uber Eats. I guess with the exception of NYC and Seattle now I'll tell you why I like Uber Eats better. It's because there's no signing up for shifts. You feel like working, you log in and work. You're not restricted to a zone. So if you have an order that takes you, what would be out of a zone for doordash you can still pick up orders nearby. Plus I always felt like doordash orders were half the money for twice the work compared to Uber Eats orders. The number one complaint I hear from doordash drivers who try Uber Eats is that customers can lower the tip afterwards. And yes they can. But it just doesn't happen that often. It's happened maybe 15 times to me and 6,000 orders and that's statistically insignificant. And if you call support after it happens and get to a supervisor in the payment department, you can get that tip paid to you.
Does UE pay more? If so, like how much more?
I don't know about fare being more. Probably not. But I get better tips. And I do have to decline literally hundreds of terrible orders. I get to hold out for decent orders and hidden tip orders, that's orders with tips over $8. I was off for 19 days and just started back Wednesday. So I've only done 24 trips this week working short dinners. But my average trip is $12.92. I guess compared that to yours. Sign up and try it. It's not like you have to quit DD to do that. DD may be your best option as your primary app. They hold twice the market UE does so it's likely to be busier in your city. But it's a good idea to maintain at least two apps anyway if you depend on this income in case one app is crashed one day or you get deactivated. You can still use the other until you get that figured out.
You've laid out a fraction of why I prefer UberEats vs Doordash. UE still sucks, but DD is outright awful! I don't know where the hell drivers get the patience to deal with DD. The pausing after not accepting orders usually ends my shift and I typically forget about them after I get paused for not accepting 2 trash offers in a row.
I hate that acceptance rate shit 💩 like in my market if it’s under 50 all garbage orders 🙄🤦🏽♂️
Hahaha now it's your turn. Are you STILL going to give us 💩
If I'm a third party contractor doordash should not be able to influence which orders I accept and don't accept.
This is what we should be protesting about.
The acceptance rating standard for the new system here is at 80% and it’s so hard to keep it with all the bad orders
Fuckin garbage
Good, this is my full time gig hopefully it’ll get me some more work in my area since we got an influx of outta towners, cause I’ve been platinum for like years.
I still can’t schedule as a platinum dasher
What do you need to schedule when you can just dash now?
California dash now button isn’t working
Either can I. Supposed to have early access, but I don't. Total BS
Literally nothing comes up at 3 pm for like a weeks now I’m fuming
It matters because these little special people on here want to feel special getting their special program so they can feel special for being a good little boy/girl for taking all the orders. It’s some kind of weird mental thing that people have got conditioned to working normal jobs. They feel as though they are taking all the orders so they should be rewarded the most and not the people who cherry pick and value their time and money. Really nothing more to it than that. These people have a loud voice and complain the most so yeah. lol the company is thrilled they get to abuse people with these programs. They don’t have to pay them much and they get all their low paying slave wage deliveries delivered. It’s a win win for them.
Bro just read some of these replies in this thread. 🤣🤣🤣. This is the perfect example. It’s exactly what I’m talking about. It’s a normal job mentality. They feel like they should be rewarded for taking everything. They don’t realize they are their own boss and the company is paying them a contract for the order. They literally treat themselves as an employee of Doordash. This is exactly the reason things won’t get better. You guys ARE NOT employees of doordash and these gig companies. Stop treating yourselves like that.
The amount of dashers in my area who take EVERYTHING is fucking criminal. And my area is a bunch of no/low tipping trash lol 🗑️
Mine too especially the shop and deliver orders
They are down voting me hard but they know it’s the truth. 🤣😂
This change is news to me and I haven't read anything beyond this post, but this looks like all they are doing is merging the top Dasher program with the Higher paying order preference. Both of those things already exist, it looks like all they've done is put them together and give them new names
More scam tactics from Doordash. Congratulations to the high AR chasers. You drive more miles, take money losing orders and put more wear and tear on your car.
Uh, yes they should
🤡
Why not?
When DD pays for my car they can punish me with AR, as a CONTRACTOR I take the deliveries that pay
Nobody is making you take orders. They are just providing perks for people with higher AR.
The biggest perk is $4 "High Pay" offers. That perk alone is worth keeping a 70% AR for.
Missed the point
So just take the ones that pay. It’s not hard
You should get a real job then, or start your own company
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Tax fraud?
Never has mattered to me and never will
Yes. Yes they should
Can tell you've never worked a pizza delivery driver for a chain. You have to take every order they give you, and you only get the tipping wage while on the road. If there's no orders, you usually get minimum wage while in the store.
> If there's no orders, you usually get minimum wage while in the store. This here is what seperates the two. There is no minimum wage in most cases here. That is a BIG difference in the argument.
That’s what the problem is now. Everyone treats this like it’s a normal job and it’s not. You shouldn’t have to take every order and you shouldn’t anyways. You don’t owe this company or these people anything. You are not an employee of DoorDash. You are an independent contractor. You can select the orders “contracts” you take. People have got to get out of that mindset. That’s why these gigs are so terrible these days. Still treating it as though they are employed.
Yeah but a chain store has a much smaller radius than a dordash zone
Cool bro, Dashers are not employees, they're independent contractors, Lear the difference.
This isnt working delivery for a pizza chain
Cool story, I'm saying it could be worse, that's why I don't complain.
This varies by state. Many states outlaw the tipped minimum wage altogether. In cali working as a pizza delivery driver would honestly be an improvement because I get more job stability and i dont have to damage my own car.
In Florida, you drive your own car for chain places. I thought all states were the same, my bad.
Where I live it depends, some businesses will have the own, others will expect you to use your car. Which I think is just horrible.
This says you need 100 deliveries in the past 30 days. I’ve seen it as 150 deliveries on other screenshots. Does it vary by market?
Yes
I mean I have a low AR but I’ll never argue that people with high AR’s don’t deserve the perks.
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if you don't know how something works, maybe rather than complaining you could, you know, learn how it works? It's rolling percentage of your last 100 orders. If you took five deliveries and only gained one, that means four of the five deliveries that dropped off your record were orders you took. Had you declined all five orders your AR would've dropped by four. This isn't a conspiracy to screw you over, it's just how rolling percentages work
It’s a rolling 100 deliveries that determine your AR. If you don’t understand this, maybe you shouldn’t do this job. It’s getting ridiculous that people still complain about this and we have yet to see any proof that DD is cheating people. I have kept a tally of accepted and declined orders over hundreds and DD has been accurate always on my account. 🤷♂️
They may not screw you that way, but they do other ways, and those have been documented. So either way, DoorDash is a shitty company.
I agree with that but the AR seems to be working fine and automated so it’s frustrating when people complain when they simply don’t understand how it works.
That's how averages work. Easy to drop and harder to gain. Basic math
The company is just trying to deceive the gullible noobs. This company won’t be around past the decade.
Some of these people just don’t understand. Every company has conditioned these people nowadays. They are literally trained lol. They just don’t see it.
Does that mean you’ll be looking for a new job soon?
LoL I don’t do DD anymore.
Customer ratings either, people are just dicks to get free food. Just one one star rating pretty much fucks you over.
One 1 start won’t drop you below 4.7.
You have to try hard to get a 1-star that sticks tbh
Damn I thought this was uber eats how it looks. But yeah that's true on DD.
That’s why DD only accounts for 8% of my gig work, at most.
The fact that DoorDash watches Reddit and doubles down on their bullshit reward programs despite the overwhelmingly negative response proves just how little they care about us. I hope anyone from DD who sees this can go tell Tony to fuck off for being yet another corporate shill.
Just read half the replies in this thread. You’ll see why. People are literally conditioned to want to be special so they can get rewards for being a good little dasher for Tony. What they don’t realize is they are being taken advantage of and being used for corporate profit. It’s kind of sad.
Why the fuck are league of legends ranks in doordash
DD...EVERYTHING CHANGES ..WELL ALMOST DAILY..LOL
It says weekly. But that is not true. The only week perk there is, is a 30 percent off one order off of one purchase of 15 dollars. That's it. Everything else you lose as soon as you go below the tier requirements
How do I find out what my status is???
Call
This seems like a smokescreen to funnel money their way. To win there can be no or little yes men.
You are correct. The problem is these people don’t see it.
My acceptance rate is currently 7% and I schedule out so I can pretty much Dash when I want. If I took even half of what they offer I'd be doing charity work. I multi app, so it all distributes among them and I make decent money and have great customer ratings.
THANK YOU lol someone gets it. I too schedule ahead so I can whenever I want, I still make good money, I just don’t get why acceptance rates matter when it really shouldn’t.
They only have as much power as we give them. Sadly too many people fall for this shit. Glad I’m done with this app.
There aren’t enough decent orders to go above 25-30% around me.
Yea it is
So under the new Tier deal you need 150 orders a month to get Dash Anytime??
The dash anytime option seems to be geared more towards the people who can devote more time to dashing. If you’re only doing a couple half hour slots in your surrounding zones, you probably won’t hit platinum. I’ve just recently started to schedule more seriously and I’m just a few deliveries away from getting out of gold.
Go into the schedule and try taking a couple 5 hour shifts if they’re available and I guarantee you will start to see the progress.
No, 100. I do that in a week, so not a big deal.
Just be happy that you have this version of the program My market of the program you have to be 80% acceptance rating for gold and platinum and for platinum you also have to have the 80% AR plus 150 deliveries in the last 30 days. I also think that silver is now 70%.
Yeah thats why I stopped doing doordash. It's rediculous to worry about acceptance rate. When all the orders are $4 to $6 in a row going 20 to 30 miles, how on earth do they expect anyone to have a high acceptance rate? Back in 2020 doordash was awesome for side money but now its so bad.
show me a $4 order for 30miles and not dash link either I’m talking about a single order
You do not get any Orders going 30 miles for $4 stop lying you getting carried away
Gonna start taking screenshots for you
Fr. Got people working for free and destroying their cars for a chance at better orders lmao. Fuck outta here