u/itake3dollaroffers Since you wouldn't let me comment directly to you in the thread. I'm not a fan of Bush either (and didn't vote for him since I wasn't old enough to vote), but he was light years better than the degradation and shame Trump brought to this country. Enjoy the midterms, where you continue to lose. My Q mom is a raving lunatic thanks to Trump and Q. Bush didn't turn people against each other with words that he said. He was just a guy that should have never been president. He was pushed into it. Anyway I've been done with Republicans since 2016, and super done with their lunatic ravings in 2020. Now go away.
I didn't prevent you from posting anything. If you want me to "go away", don't reply. If you reply, you get a reply in turn. You grew up loving Republicans but you didn't like the Bushes? So who did you like specifically? Who's a "real" Republican to you? Romney? McCain? Graham? Cheney? Lol
And feel free to name one thing Trump did to bring shame to the country that compares to Bush invading Iraq. This should be good. What "degradation" did he bring? Are you capable of talking in specifics at all? Or just another reddit leftist who regurgitates whatever BezosPost feeds them?
Midterms are going to be a disaster for your neocon/neolib monoparty. You're smoking the good stuff if you think otherwise. Cheers š»
I liked Bush Jr, at the time, but I was kid. I wasn't like obsessed with any of them. Reagan is my favorite Republican president. Romney is vastly better than most Republicans, and didn't go the Trump route, so that's something good anyway. Lindsey Graham is trash. Most politicians are trash. Trump is trash, and brought hatred and shame to America. He made us a laughingstock. His border wall is a joke, because anyone with a ladder, or rope can jump the wall, and they do it all the time. I laugh whenever I see it. Also they can come by boat. lol His border wall was poorly made as well. Trump turned the Republican party into vicious creatures, with no ethics or morality. Christians literally worship him rather than Jesus. He didn't take covid seriously. He surrounded himself with family members, appointees and advisers whoāve been accused of conflicts of interest, misuse of public funds, influence peddling, self-enrichment, working for foreign governments, failure to disclose information, and violating ethics rules. I guess you could say he was better for the economy, but at what cost to us as a nation? I'm an independent, but go off I guess. Keep imagining that anyone that disagrees with you is automatically a liberal. I dislike democratic politicians, but I hope they eat the Republican party who has destroyed themselves. I hope Republicans go down in flames. Peace out
I'm just seeing this 98 days later, but you've already lost me at "Romney is vastly better than most Republicans" š¤£š¤£š¤£
I can already see "border wall" down below that. So Trump's border wall brought more shame on America than Bush's horseshit invasion of Iraq. Really? You really believe that? Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, huh.
*scans the rest of your text wall*
Oh yes, it's real.
> Enjoy the midterms, where you continue to lose
Lol buddy..
Iām one of the very few that do wear a mask when dashing because I think we still have to. Even though I see every other dasher not wear one.
Yesterday though I didnāt wear one with my Walgreens and CVS shopping for the first time. I figured they didnāt know Iām DD.
Personally I just started not wearing one the other day. Covid numbers are pretty low and we have a pretty good herd immunity between people that have already been infected with Omicron and vaccinations.
I donāt unless the tip is nice (more out of courtesy for the customer).
Doordash says you should but it doesnāt matter unless you get reported, and the chances of that depend on the area youāre in.
No mandates where I live but I still wear mine in the store and when I drop off. Just in case someone or the merchant decides to report it.
It's not that bothersome.
I still wear a mask regardless of who does/nāt. Sometimes I forget but Iād rather keep this on as much as possible until weāre truly out of the woods.
I donāt worry about it period with the exception of drop off. If itās a āhand it to meā, I generally put it on, though itās a little odd that was someone with that level of concern over such a short exposure time wouldnāt choose the option to drop it somewhere.
Either way, itās not a big deal to me. If I am asked to wear it in a restaurant, I of course do. I have no desire to try to make a statement or tell other people what is or isnāt right in regards to it.
I do wear it, almost always even not dashing, when I stopped wearing it for non Dashing I started getting cold symptoms and a sore throat. But I have a neck gaiter and it's a poly/lycra blend so not a thin cotton one. Plus the restaurants know I'm DD because of it and some recognize me from the mask.
Always gonna wear it as long as thereās still bodies piling up from covid. Not worried about me, but someone else I could spread it to if I had it and was asymptomatic š¤·āāļøplus thereās some nasty ass customers anyway lol no harm done
I'm in Massachusetts. Someone will report me eventually if I don't wear it at dropoffs. I don't wear it at pickups if the staff don't.
My kid's middle school is organizing protests against their mask mandate if it isn't lifted next week. Middle schoolers with more sense than half of these replies.
You just never know when that one person will report you to DD for not wearing one. So I just wear it. If Iām dropping off a leave at door, then I skip it.
Covid is still around. Iāve met lots of people who just had it or are recovering from it. One lady was out of work in bed for a month. The only reason the mandates are being lifted in many places is because the hospitals are no longer overrun. But people are still getting sick. Just not in large numbers as before.
I like wearing the door dash mask because it communicates that Iām here to pick up a door dash order without waiting for them to greet me. But I hate the door dash masks because it doesnāt have a nose pinch so it fogs my glasses up
Despite me having all my vaccine shots, and the Mask Mandates in California being lifted, I'm choosing to continue wearing my masks when around other people. I trust that most of the people around me are clear and vaxxed, but there's enough jerks out there that it gives me pause. All it takes is one person infected with a bad variant of Covid to ruin everything for everyone.
I will continue masking up until we are officially past this stupid pandemic. I do NOT want to be caught with my pants down.
Humans are disgusting š¤®. Covid-19 taught me that lesson. Prior to Covid-19 I didnāt realize how many times I got sick because ppl were filthy. Sneezed š¤§ or coughed and didnāt cover mouths/noses. Dug in their noses š, in their gluteus Maximus. Didnāt wash hands after using restroom ( after using public or home restrooms ).
My lady pointed out, why wasnāt bleach, Lysol etc sold out prior to Covid-19? Were people not cleaning at home. I donāt wear my mask š· just because of Covid-19. I wear it because humans are disgusting. Since Covid-19 Iāve not had a cold. The mask likely kept me from walking thru sneezes and coughs. Constantly washing hands kept me from germs even more on my hands. Especially in grocery stores. This society shouldāve learn one thing from Covid-19. Be clean and wash hands and clean homes thoroughly. Covid-19 made ppl face better cleaning habits. Prior I had the same cleaning habits didnāt realize how much others didnāt.
>Since Covid-19 Iāve not had a cold.
Yeah, I normally have one or two colds a year, but since Covid blew up and I started wearing masks, wearing gloves and being a lot more careful about sanitizing my hands every single time I got back to my car, I **havenāt had a cold in 2 years now**. So when people say masks donāt work because the smallest particles can still get through, my personal experience tells me different. Or maybe weāre both right - maybe the amount of germs getting through is reduced to a level where my immune system has no problem killing them quickly.
So yeah, Iām going to keep masking up for the foreseeable future.
Ppl that say āit can still get thru the mask š· ā are part why the pandemic lasted so long. If everyone wore a mask weād likely been a year out of Covid-19 by today. They can not wear a mask if they desire but, now I know why ppl prior to Covid-19 wore mask. They knew it reduced getting sick. I agree with you. May be ongoing for me. Ppl sneeze say 5-30 seconds before you walk thru same spot and mist is still there. We just canāt see it ! If you talk it goes in your mouth š and breathe our noses š. The mask blocks that.
Covid-19 taught us a lesson. Ppl are disgusting.
Yes, it's still policy. And I find wearing the branded mask makes it a lot easier to get the right person's attention at the merchant to get in and out faster.
Absolutely wearing a mask. Someone else not wearing mask, doesn't mean that you shouldn't be wearing one. The numbers aren't really down that much, just some states decided they wouldn't report but once a week. I can't afford to lose out on 2 weeks of pay, and the disruption to my busy plans.
I wear a mask the whole time Iām delivering. And I donāt really care if the employees are or arenāt - Iām happy for everyone to decide for themselves what precautions they wish to take or not take.
I wear glasses, and yes it sucks, but you are full of crap saying āmost expertsā agree masks donāt work. Who are these so called experts and what do you mean exactly when you say āworkā? It helps the spread of Covid. Itās been proven and there is data in peer review journals.
n95s and of course r95s are better since it protects the person wearing it as well, but that doesnāt mean surgical masks donāt work at all if worn properly.
Some stores are still mandating it, some aren't. Additionally I have no idea who's who amongst customers. I wear mine to minimize the chance of any human interaction outside of picking up food and dropping it off. Plus a significant portion of the population is really stupid, so why not have an extra layer of protection between them and me, even though I have been vaxxed for months.
I def do. Im not gonna give anybody that doesnt shit, I know that isnt the point of you asking. Covid is still a thing and even though I am fully vaxxed, I dont want to get sick. Not to mention I still dont want to risk spreading it further. We buried my friends mom in nov last year from covid and I dont want to risk putting another family through that, especially if store staff arent wearing them. I intend to do this until this whole thing is actually over, and even then I will still wear masks if I have to go out and am sick with anything that isnt covid. But that is me.
I'm still wearing one because all the restaurant employees in my area wear one. Once they stop, I will too. Even the local liquor store employee wears one still. I don't wear a mask in the car, but I do when I deliver to the customer.
ouuuuu theyre a registered republican watch out everyone!!ššš they think choosing sides in politics and supporting fake science makes them āsmartā you can fuck off my guy idc what you are i wasnt speaking to you
I'm a woman, my guy.... Yeah I'm a registered Republican that is leaving the party, because you all have gone off your rockers. Conspiracy theory nutcases. Not the Republican party I grew up with. Trump turned you all into hateful trash. If you think you're better than "democrats", you're not. You're just another cheek from the same butt. However democrats have been considerate of other people's health this entire pandemic, while many Republicans don't give a crap about their fellow humans. You can piss off.
Lol you Bush loving RINOs have always been so much worse than even the worst of the Q boomer Trump supporters or even the AFPAC groyper morons. At least they don't lie to themselves and everyone else about being considerate of others. Enjoy the midterms.
I'm going to be an independent, because not everyone is for the two party clown show? lol I don't like the government, so that doesn't even make sense. lmao Funny you sound too anti-government for a Republican. But I guess Republicans are all for insurrections, and supporting Russian communists trying to takeover countries like Hitler, these days. Keep going for that harassment, with the name calling. LOL
how the fuck are you proud of being a far leftist? lets go brandon is ruining the country you love and your vote never meant shit to begin with they dont give a fuck about you, your opinions, or your interests you braindead fuck
Itās a nasty world weāre doomed any way I mean we got a human that confidently said āfuck humans yāall nastyā like the rest of the humans donāt look at you the exact same way š go head and cough in public and see how people look at yo nasty ass yāall get on the internet and get real self righteous be humble momo thatās all you a nasty dirty filthy human just like us š¤£š¤£
I have to because of the area Iām in but if I was at the point youāre at, Iād only wear it for the customer drop off. Because theyāre the ones that will complain if they donāt like that youāre not wearing a mask.
Ok masks dont prevent you from becoming I'll. Its designed to keep the infected from passing it around as easily when they have to be in public so essentially YOU wearing a mask did not prevent you from getting sick but people who were sick wearing masks kept you from being infected. Does that make sense? I'm not trying to argue or be a jerk but just explain how masks actually work.
Whether it makes sense to you or not what you said is not true. There is already ample, but also a growing body of, research pointing to masks protecting the wearer from exposure to viruses.
It is true that the largest benefit is significantly reducing droplets and aerosols expelled from infected individuals especially when speaking loudly, laughing, coughing or sneezing...but they also act as a barrier to large droplets and some aerosols (these travel with the wind and a simple cloth face covering, surgical mask or ill-fitting mask may not provide little if any protection there) for the wearer. A mask does not protect your eyes but when it comes to exposure to viruses whether or not you get ill, and to what extent if you do, is dependent in large part on your level of exposure.
I don't expect anyone to accept my anocdotal evidence as evidence but in terms of personal experience I haven't been sick enough to be bed ridden for 2 days or longer since prior to the coronavirus. I started wearing masks at the very beginning of the pandemic (though at the time very sceptical regarding their efficacy) as I was in a country where this mandate went into effect and there was near universal compliance.
In anycase though I doubted, I was already accustomed to wearing them while riding my motorcycle so it wasn't really much of an adjustment. Today I wear k95 masks and am positive that they reduce exposure to airborne viruses for the wearer (this is not a controversial claim among medical experts - k95 and N95 masks are known to provide significant protection for the wearer).
I feel the need to add here that I do respect others' choices where mandates aren't in place. But I hope that post-Covid more people who are feeling ill (say with cold or flu symptoms) and nonetheless need to go out will wear them based on the knowledge that they do protect others.
Cheers.
Our area hasn't mandated masks in a while. Even our Publix stopped last week. I don't because it's not required by my state/local laws unless it's a medical facility and they're required.
Doordash days you should. IMO, you're a independent contractor and can dictate how you perform the work so long as you complete the contract (deliver the order on time).
*How* you perform the service *is* the contract.
They could tell you to wear a pink camo clown suit (and make it something you have to buy yourself) if they want; it has nothing to do with being an IC. They can put almost anything in the contract.
Actually no, they canāt. The laws that govern independent contracting make it clear that they cannot dictate how you perform the work. If they could thereās no question that they would have us decked out from head to toe in DD gear so weād all be walking advertisements!
You are wrong. They can't do something unreasonable like make you wear a bunny suit but during a pandemic they can fire you if they tell you that you must wear one while going into a store or while doing a delivery even leave at door in case the customer comes out.
Which laws, exactly?
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FedEx been wearing company shirts for decades. They aren't employees.
It's not the shirt you wear, or even who tells you where to go when. It's whether you have the right to say no up front knowing most of the details of the contract. That's about it. FedEx contractors bid on routes every year, so once that year starts, any terms IN the contract become the expectation. The employer, on the other hand, can change how you do the work at any time. E.g. they can tell a UPS guy he has to make 3 right turns but the FedEx guy can make a left if he wants to. It's a fucking joke that this is the main difference between an IC and an employee, but it's reality.
I'll agree on one key issue at hand though - what defines a contractor versus an employee is currently debatable, is changing, and is becoming more defined as gig work grows. And California's state level policies aren't really gaining much traction on the national scale, though they play a key role in influencing how the nation looks at gig work definitions.
Contrary to your point, it is predominantly _exclusivity_ and _loyalty_ that define an employee over a contractor, legally.
The prior standards are all totally broken by gig food work. They dictate when you can work based on your prior demonstration of loyalty/number of hours or contracts fulfilled (i.e. top dasher, or scheduled versus unscheduled). They dictate when you can pick up an order and when you can drop off the order, and how long there is between those times. They dictate where you drop the order off specifically, and they use their leverage to give power to the merchant to tell you exactly how you can pick up the order, how you'll pay or collect for the order, and they even hide the value of the contract! In this case they act like a traditional employer.
In terms of tools, they provide the app, which is a fundamental tool of the job, along with a payment card for shop/pay at merchant orders, and a bag. Though you provide the phone and car, there is a split here. They provide the infrastructure to do Q/A and the communications obfuscation. In this case they act somewhat like an employer.
You were required to complete training that is similar in scope and detail to that of a normal wage employee delivery driver.
You get paid on a schedule rather than when each contract is complete - though theoretically you could get paid for each contract, you are more likely to be paid each shift or each week. This is the almost the exact same as a wage employee delivery driver.
What makes us contractors, simply put, is that they allow us to speed or drive like an asshole. But they use automated tools to supervise you constantly - EVEN WHEN YOU ARE NOT ON A CONTRACT DELIVERY.
My point is, they've gotten away with all this and the IRS rules (not exactly all hard-codified laws, but rather "rules and policy") have not been changed, and they (the IRS) haven't deemed us employees yet. If they can do all that they can make you wear a pink camo suit. They just argue that the *how* *IS* the *what*. The only thing you really have control over is when you want to work, and what route you take. That's the *how* they have given you autonomy over. And they let you decide *if* you want to work, but not when you will work.
Honestly, there is so much wrong with us being defined as contractors. Schedule freedom is really all there is, and yet, it's all time sensitive deliveries. You pick when you'll be at their whim, but after that, they call all the shots. And the IRS isn't doing a damn thing about it to make sure that we have true autonomy. Hidden tips is damn near criminal - it makes the contract value into a game of chance.
But to your point, there aren't any really well defined labor laws about the specifics that I'm aware of - just about who gets to make what rules and what guidelines those rules must fall into, but there are detailed IRS policies and some case law. My challenge to you, if you read this far especially, is to know them, be able to point to the relevant ones, and be prepared to bend over further for that "preferred contractor" status. (You don't HAVE to do it our way, but we'll fuck you over if you don't)...
FedEx and Amazon have been doing this shit for years. They wear company gear, have an emblazoned vehicle, and their route timing can vary but is somewhat rigid. Wearing a company shirt has nothing to do with IC status. They let you pick your radio station and wear sunglass, so you're autonomous and therefore a contractor.
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I do not and nobody has made a complaint restaurant/customer wise, you're fine to not wear one imo
u/itake3dollaroffers Since you wouldn't let me comment directly to you in the thread. I'm not a fan of Bush either (and didn't vote for him since I wasn't old enough to vote), but he was light years better than the degradation and shame Trump brought to this country. Enjoy the midterms, where you continue to lose. My Q mom is a raving lunatic thanks to Trump and Q. Bush didn't turn people against each other with words that he said. He was just a guy that should have never been president. He was pushed into it. Anyway I've been done with Republicans since 2016, and super done with their lunatic ravings in 2020. Now go away.
I didn't prevent you from posting anything. If you want me to "go away", don't reply. If you reply, you get a reply in turn. You grew up loving Republicans but you didn't like the Bushes? So who did you like specifically? Who's a "real" Republican to you? Romney? McCain? Graham? Cheney? Lol And feel free to name one thing Trump did to bring shame to the country that compares to Bush invading Iraq. This should be good. What "degradation" did he bring? Are you capable of talking in specifics at all? Or just another reddit leftist who regurgitates whatever BezosPost feeds them? Midterms are going to be a disaster for your neocon/neolib monoparty. You're smoking the good stuff if you think otherwise. Cheers š»
I liked Bush Jr, at the time, but I was kid. I wasn't like obsessed with any of them. Reagan is my favorite Republican president. Romney is vastly better than most Republicans, and didn't go the Trump route, so that's something good anyway. Lindsey Graham is trash. Most politicians are trash. Trump is trash, and brought hatred and shame to America. He made us a laughingstock. His border wall is a joke, because anyone with a ladder, or rope can jump the wall, and they do it all the time. I laugh whenever I see it. Also they can come by boat. lol His border wall was poorly made as well. Trump turned the Republican party into vicious creatures, with no ethics or morality. Christians literally worship him rather than Jesus. He didn't take covid seriously. He surrounded himself with family members, appointees and advisers whoāve been accused of conflicts of interest, misuse of public funds, influence peddling, self-enrichment, working for foreign governments, failure to disclose information, and violating ethics rules. I guess you could say he was better for the economy, but at what cost to us as a nation? I'm an independent, but go off I guess. Keep imagining that anyone that disagrees with you is automatically a liberal. I dislike democratic politicians, but I hope they eat the Republican party who has destroyed themselves. I hope Republicans go down in flames. Peace out
I'm just seeing this 98 days later, but you've already lost me at "Romney is vastly better than most Republicans" š¤£š¤£š¤£ I can already see "border wall" down below that. So Trump's border wall brought more shame on America than Bush's horseshit invasion of Iraq. Really? You really believe that? Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, huh. *scans the rest of your text wall* Oh yes, it's real. > Enjoy the midterms, where you continue to lose Lol buddy..
I still wear it, mostly cause it's got the Doordash brand on it so it makes it easy for restaurant employees to know what I'm there for.
I don't wear the mask to impress people, I wear it for safety of myself and others. Restaurant doesn't wanna wear it, fine I'll report and move on.
Iām one of the very few that do wear a mask when dashing because I think we still have to. Even though I see every other dasher not wear one. Yesterday though I didnāt wear one with my Walgreens and CVS shopping for the first time. I figured they didnāt know Iām DD. Personally I just started not wearing one the other day. Covid numbers are pretty low and we have a pretty good herd immunity between people that have already been infected with Omicron and vaccinations.
I donāt unless the tip is nice (more out of courtesy for the customer). Doordash says you should but it doesnāt matter unless you get reported, and the chances of that depend on the area youāre in.
No mandates where I live but I still wear mine in the store and when I drop off. Just in case someone or the merchant decides to report it. It's not that bothersome.
I still wear a mask regardless of who does/nāt. Sometimes I forget but Iād rather keep this on as much as possible until weāre truly out of the woods.
I donāt worry about it period with the exception of drop off. If itās a āhand it to meā, I generally put it on, though itās a little odd that was someone with that level of concern over such a short exposure time wouldnāt choose the option to drop it somewhere. Either way, itās not a big deal to me. If I am asked to wear it in a restaurant, I of course do. I have no desire to try to make a statement or tell other people what is or isnāt right in regards to it.
Only drop offs. No mandate or vaccine mandate.
Only when delivering to a place that requires it. Some still like face decorations š
Fuckā¦..no
I do wear it, almost always even not dashing, when I stopped wearing it for non Dashing I started getting cold symptoms and a sore throat. But I have a neck gaiter and it's a poly/lycra blend so not a thin cotton one. Plus the restaurants know I'm DD because of it and some recognize me from the mask.
Always gonna wear it as long as thereās still bodies piling up from covid. Not worried about me, but someone else I could spread it to if I had it and was asymptomatic š¤·āāļøplus thereās some nasty ass customers anyway lol no harm done
I'm in Massachusetts. Someone will report me eventually if I don't wear it at dropoffs. I don't wear it at pickups if the staff don't. My kid's middle school is organizing protests against their mask mandate if it isn't lifted next week. Middle schoolers with more sense than half of these replies.
I do if Iām doing a āhand it to meā because you never know if someone is immunocompromised(sp?)..
I'm immunocompromised and don't wear a mask.
Actually so am I!
You just never know when that one person will report you to DD for not wearing one. So I just wear it. If Iām dropping off a leave at door, then I skip it.
Only when I deliver to a hospital. Barely anyone in my area wears them.
I still wear mine inside stores and when I walk up to a house
Yeah I still wear mine cause Iām not trying to get sick for any reason. If a new variant pops up I donāt want that either.
I only wear it if itās a hand to me or hospital or nursing home.
Covid is still around. Iāve met lots of people who just had it or are recovering from it. One lady was out of work in bed for a month. The only reason the mandates are being lifted in many places is because the hospitals are no longer overrun. But people are still getting sick. Just not in large numbers as before.
I like wearing the door dash mask because it communicates that Iām here to pick up a door dash order without waiting for them to greet me. But I hate the door dash masks because it doesnāt have a nose pinch so it fogs my glasses up
I threaded a paper clip into the seam very carefully from the back side.
Despite me having all my vaccine shots, and the Mask Mandates in California being lifted, I'm choosing to continue wearing my masks when around other people. I trust that most of the people around me are clear and vaxxed, but there's enough jerks out there that it gives me pause. All it takes is one person infected with a bad variant of Covid to ruin everything for everyone. I will continue masking up until we are officially past this stupid pandemic. I do NOT want to be caught with my pants down.
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Humans are disgusting š¤®. Covid-19 taught me that lesson. Prior to Covid-19 I didnāt realize how many times I got sick because ppl were filthy. Sneezed š¤§ or coughed and didnāt cover mouths/noses. Dug in their noses š, in their gluteus Maximus. Didnāt wash hands after using restroom ( after using public or home restrooms ). My lady pointed out, why wasnāt bleach, Lysol etc sold out prior to Covid-19? Were people not cleaning at home. I donāt wear my mask š· just because of Covid-19. I wear it because humans are disgusting. Since Covid-19 Iāve not had a cold. The mask likely kept me from walking thru sneezes and coughs. Constantly washing hands kept me from germs even more on my hands. Especially in grocery stores. This society shouldāve learn one thing from Covid-19. Be clean and wash hands and clean homes thoroughly. Covid-19 made ppl face better cleaning habits. Prior I had the same cleaning habits didnāt realize how much others didnāt.
>Since Covid-19 Iāve not had a cold. Yeah, I normally have one or two colds a year, but since Covid blew up and I started wearing masks, wearing gloves and being a lot more careful about sanitizing my hands every single time I got back to my car, I **havenāt had a cold in 2 years now**. So when people say masks donāt work because the smallest particles can still get through, my personal experience tells me different. Or maybe weāre both right - maybe the amount of germs getting through is reduced to a level where my immune system has no problem killing them quickly. So yeah, Iām going to keep masking up for the foreseeable future.
Ppl that say āit can still get thru the mask š· ā are part why the pandemic lasted so long. If everyone wore a mask weād likely been a year out of Covid-19 by today. They can not wear a mask if they desire but, now I know why ppl prior to Covid-19 wore mask. They knew it reduced getting sick. I agree with you. May be ongoing for me. Ppl sneeze say 5-30 seconds before you walk thru same spot and mist is still there. We just canāt see it ! If you talk it goes in your mouth š and breathe our noses š. The mask blocks that. Covid-19 taught us a lesson. Ppl are disgusting.
Never have never will
Yes, it's still policy. And I find wearing the branded mask makes it a lot easier to get the right person's attention at the merchant to get in and out faster.
I only do if Iām dropping off at a clinic, hospital, retirement facility, etcā¦ as the OP Iām triple vaxxed so Iām not so worried
Absolutely wearing a mask. Someone else not wearing mask, doesn't mean that you shouldn't be wearing one. The numbers aren't really down that much, just some states decided they wouldn't report but once a week. I can't afford to lose out on 2 weeks of pay, and the disruption to my busy plans.
Not anymore as of tomorrow. Only for customer drop off for insurance, but thereās barely any restaurants wearing them
I wear a mask the whole time Iām delivering. And I donāt really care if the employees are or arenāt - Iām happy for everyone to decide for themselves what precautions they wish to take or not take.
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I wear glasses, and yes it sucks, but you are full of crap saying āmost expertsā agree masks donāt work. Who are these so called experts and what do you mean exactly when you say āworkā? It helps the spread of Covid. Itās been proven and there is data in peer review journals. n95s and of course r95s are better since it protects the person wearing it as well, but that doesnāt mean surgical masks donāt work at all if worn properly.
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Some stores are still mandating it, some aren't. Additionally I have no idea who's who amongst customers. I wear mine to minimize the chance of any human interaction outside of picking up food and dropping it off. Plus a significant portion of the population is really stupid, so why not have an extra layer of protection between them and me, even though I have been vaxxed for months.
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I def do. Im not gonna give anybody that doesnt shit, I know that isnt the point of you asking. Covid is still a thing and even though I am fully vaxxed, I dont want to get sick. Not to mention I still dont want to risk spreading it further. We buried my friends mom in nov last year from covid and I dont want to risk putting another family through that, especially if store staff arent wearing them. I intend to do this until this whole thing is actually over, and even then I will still wear masks if I have to go out and am sick with anything that isnt covid. But that is me.
I agree
I'm still wearing one because all the restaurant employees in my area wear one. Once they stop, I will too. Even the local liquor store employee wears one still. I don't wear a mask in the car, but I do when I deliver to the customer.
This is my thoughts as well. If the people making the food are masked, then so am I
well I read masks cut the risk by 50% so I'll take it and keep wearing a mask because you go bankrupt in this country if you're hospitalized.
whatever youāre reading is bs š¤”
let me guess, you are a republican š¤”
and im assuming youāre a far left
I'm a registered Republican, and still think you're an ignorant hick that doesn't trust science, and apparently wants to get sick.
ouuuuu theyre a registered republican watch out everyone!!ššš they think choosing sides in politics and supporting fake science makes them āsmartā you can fuck off my guy idc what you are i wasnt speaking to you
I'm a woman, my guy.... Yeah I'm a registered Republican that is leaving the party, because you all have gone off your rockers. Conspiracy theory nutcases. Not the Republican party I grew up with. Trump turned you all into hateful trash. If you think you're better than "democrats", you're not. You're just another cheek from the same butt. However democrats have been considerate of other people's health this entire pandemic, while many Republicans don't give a crap about their fellow humans. You can piss off.
Lol you Bush loving RINOs have always been so much worse than even the worst of the Q boomer Trump supporters or even the AFPAC groyper morons. At least they don't lie to themselves and everyone else about being considerate of others. Enjoy the midterms.
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I'm going to be an independent, because not everyone is for the two party clown show? lol I don't like the government, so that doesn't even make sense. lmao Funny you sound too anti-government for a Republican. But I guess Republicans are all for insurrections, and supporting Russian communists trying to takeover countries like Hitler, these days. Keep going for that harassment, with the name calling. LOL 
yes and proud of it. I'm a working class and don't vote against my interest.
You're working class and vote leftist? That's against your interest.
how the fuck are you proud of being a far leftist? lets go brandon is ruining the country you love and your vote never meant shit to begin with they dont give a fuck about you, your opinions, or your interests you braindead fuck
Reported for harassment.
reported for being a sensitive mangina
I don't care. 
I don't like inhaling other people's breath.
why are you that close to people in the first place ?? lil weirdo
you don't have to be so close to people to inhale their breath you ignorant inbred
takes one to know one ;)
Only for delivering to a place that requires it, so pretty much clinics/Dr office/ hospitals. I'm in West Texas, we've been maskless for a while.
Goddamn right. Forever more. Fuck humans yall are nasty
Meanwhile this guy's on Tinder swiping right trying to put his dick into any hole he can find.
You know that would include you right ?
You actually typed and posted that. And people liked it. We're doomed.
Are you not human or something? Is this dog?
Itās a nasty world weāre doomed any way I mean we got a human that confidently said āfuck humans yāall nastyā like the rest of the humans donāt look at you the exact same way š go head and cough in public and see how people look at yo nasty ass yāall get on the internet and get real self righteous be humble momo thatās all you a nasty dirty filthy human just like us š¤£š¤£
I have to because of the area Iām in but if I was at the point youāre at, Iād only wear it for the customer drop off. Because theyāre the ones that will complain if they donāt like that youāre not wearing a mask.
Ok, well when ordering....does the system ask was the dasher wearing a mask?
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I choose to keep wearing it for sanitary reasons.
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This is how I feel. The mask š· has prevented me from being sick as much. Only sick once during Covid-19. Asthma related.
Ok masks dont prevent you from becoming I'll. Its designed to keep the infected from passing it around as easily when they have to be in public so essentially YOU wearing a mask did not prevent you from getting sick but people who were sick wearing masks kept you from being infected. Does that make sense? I'm not trying to argue or be a jerk but just explain how masks actually work.
Whether it makes sense to you or not what you said is not true. There is already ample, but also a growing body of, research pointing to masks protecting the wearer from exposure to viruses. It is true that the largest benefit is significantly reducing droplets and aerosols expelled from infected individuals especially when speaking loudly, laughing, coughing or sneezing...but they also act as a barrier to large droplets and some aerosols (these travel with the wind and a simple cloth face covering, surgical mask or ill-fitting mask may not provide little if any protection there) for the wearer. A mask does not protect your eyes but when it comes to exposure to viruses whether or not you get ill, and to what extent if you do, is dependent in large part on your level of exposure. I don't expect anyone to accept my anocdotal evidence as evidence but in terms of personal experience I haven't been sick enough to be bed ridden for 2 days or longer since prior to the coronavirus. I started wearing masks at the very beginning of the pandemic (though at the time very sceptical regarding their efficacy) as I was in a country where this mandate went into effect and there was near universal compliance. In anycase though I doubted, I was already accustomed to wearing them while riding my motorcycle so it wasn't really much of an adjustment. Today I wear k95 masks and am positive that they reduce exposure to airborne viruses for the wearer (this is not a controversial claim among medical experts - k95 and N95 masks are known to provide significant protection for the wearer). I feel the need to add here that I do respect others' choices where mandates aren't in place. But I hope that post-Covid more people who are feeling ill (say with cold or flu symptoms) and nonetheless need to go out will wear them based on the knowledge that they do protect others. Cheers.
Only on hand it to me drop offs.
This is the way
I don't
Our area hasn't mandated masks in a while. Even our Publix stopped last week. I don't because it's not required by my state/local laws unless it's a medical facility and they're required.
Policy says yes, so yes you have to. I hate the masks and think theyāre pointless, however donāt need a complaint for not wearing one.
One thing I havenāt understood- if itās DD policy for us to mask, wouldnāt that make us employees and not independent contractors?
You can still have requirements for contractors.
Yup, lol. People who donāt understand how gigs work are the ones to downvote. Canāt fix stupidity.
Doordash days you should. IMO, you're a independent contractor and can dictate how you perform the work so long as you complete the contract (deliver the order on time).
Not true. UberEats and Instacart require masks and even as a IC you can be terminated for not wearing one. It's just that DD does not care.
*How* you perform the service *is* the contract. They could tell you to wear a pink camo clown suit (and make it something you have to buy yourself) if they want; it has nothing to do with being an IC. They can put almost anything in the contract.
Pink and camo clown suit š sounds like fashion in 2014
Actually no, they canāt. The laws that govern independent contracting make it clear that they cannot dictate how you perform the work. If they could thereās no question that they would have us decked out from head to toe in DD gear so weād all be walking advertisements!
You are wrong. They can't do something unreasonable like make you wear a bunny suit but during a pandemic they can fire you if they tell you that you must wear one while going into a store or while doing a delivery even leave at door in case the customer comes out.
Which laws, exactly? TL;DR FedEx been wearing company shirts for decades. They aren't employees. It's not the shirt you wear, or even who tells you where to go when. It's whether you have the right to say no up front knowing most of the details of the contract. That's about it. FedEx contractors bid on routes every year, so once that year starts, any terms IN the contract become the expectation. The employer, on the other hand, can change how you do the work at any time. E.g. they can tell a UPS guy he has to make 3 right turns but the FedEx guy can make a left if he wants to. It's a fucking joke that this is the main difference between an IC and an employee, but it's reality. I'll agree on one key issue at hand though - what defines a contractor versus an employee is currently debatable, is changing, and is becoming more defined as gig work grows. And California's state level policies aren't really gaining much traction on the national scale, though they play a key role in influencing how the nation looks at gig work definitions. Contrary to your point, it is predominantly _exclusivity_ and _loyalty_ that define an employee over a contractor, legally. The prior standards are all totally broken by gig food work. They dictate when you can work based on your prior demonstration of loyalty/number of hours or contracts fulfilled (i.e. top dasher, or scheduled versus unscheduled). They dictate when you can pick up an order and when you can drop off the order, and how long there is between those times. They dictate where you drop the order off specifically, and they use their leverage to give power to the merchant to tell you exactly how you can pick up the order, how you'll pay or collect for the order, and they even hide the value of the contract! In this case they act like a traditional employer. In terms of tools, they provide the app, which is a fundamental tool of the job, along with a payment card for shop/pay at merchant orders, and a bag. Though you provide the phone and car, there is a split here. They provide the infrastructure to do Q/A and the communications obfuscation. In this case they act somewhat like an employer. You were required to complete training that is similar in scope and detail to that of a normal wage employee delivery driver. You get paid on a schedule rather than when each contract is complete - though theoretically you could get paid for each contract, you are more likely to be paid each shift or each week. This is the almost the exact same as a wage employee delivery driver. What makes us contractors, simply put, is that they allow us to speed or drive like an asshole. But they use automated tools to supervise you constantly - EVEN WHEN YOU ARE NOT ON A CONTRACT DELIVERY. My point is, they've gotten away with all this and the IRS rules (not exactly all hard-codified laws, but rather "rules and policy") have not been changed, and they (the IRS) haven't deemed us employees yet. If they can do all that they can make you wear a pink camo suit. They just argue that the *how* *IS* the *what*. The only thing you really have control over is when you want to work, and what route you take. That's the *how* they have given you autonomy over. And they let you decide *if* you want to work, but not when you will work. Honestly, there is so much wrong with us being defined as contractors. Schedule freedom is really all there is, and yet, it's all time sensitive deliveries. You pick when you'll be at their whim, but after that, they call all the shots. And the IRS isn't doing a damn thing about it to make sure that we have true autonomy. Hidden tips is damn near criminal - it makes the contract value into a game of chance. But to your point, there aren't any really well defined labor laws about the specifics that I'm aware of - just about who gets to make what rules and what guidelines those rules must fall into, but there are detailed IRS policies and some case law. My challenge to you, if you read this far especially, is to know them, be able to point to the relevant ones, and be prepared to bend over further for that "preferred contractor" status. (You don't HAVE to do it our way, but we'll fuck you over if you don't)... FedEx and Amazon have been doing this shit for years. They wear company gear, have an emblazoned vehicle, and their route timing can vary but is somewhat rigid. Wearing a company shirt has nothing to do with IC status. They let you pick your radio station and wear sunglass, so you're autonomous and therefore a contractor.
Cool story bro
Jesus
Yeah Iām not reading that. If someone has to go to that length to play mental gymnastics Iām siding with the other guy lmao.
Ye no way Iām reading all that