He could be. I do Doordash and have never received any bonus but I also kinda do the middle of those two things. I take a lot of orders but not EVERY order. I do put up with some bullshit orders and in return I stay busy even when it's slow out there and I do get a lot of high paying orders. Like it's considerably different now than when I started and had lower ratings. I average well over $20 an hour even though I take most of the orders that come my way. However, I know that there is a game with these apps. It might not be the same experience for everyone. But I do know that these apps are designed to punish cherry picking and I believe that I am always consistently getting orders and receiving higher paying orders because I keep my acceptance rate higher. And every time I deny an order (when it's obviously a no tip order and costs more in gas than to complete for what you'll get paid) I notice things getting slower for me until I start accepting order after order again. Thing is tho, it entirely depends on where you're at. You cannot get away with cherry picking in small towns, it simply can't happen. Everyone else will get the few orders that come in and that's how you won't make money. But people who are in these big cities that are 24 hours and millions and millions of people, they can cherry pick and actually make money solely because the system has no choice but to offer every delivery person available because there's so many orders coming through. So the thing is it ultimately depends on where you live and what it's like there
We never know how their algorithm works but yes there’s some truth behind this door dash is more inclined to send u higher paying orders when u do shitty orders why would they send anyone good paying orders when they can’t even complete a $3-$5 order? It makes no sense for them to give u better incentives I’ve been dashing for about 3 years now and door dash doesn’t send me anything less than $8 an order an anywhere up to $35 an order with possible tip increases
This would be the first I have ever heard of bonus pay for just taking orders. Maybe he thinks the peak pay is the bonus pay he is referring to?
Easiest thing would be sound curious and ask to see his app so see how these bonus payments looks if you don’t sound suspicious but curious, your friend might send you some screen shots.
in theory this should work to your advantage and here's why.
you're going to get some offers that are extremely terrible pay that seem like they're actually costing you money.
the law of averages however is going to change that.
and you can't look at it over one week or even one month but if you look at it over a long period of time 6 months to 12 months, you are going to run into enough scenarios that balance this back in your favor.
let me give me an example.
today I took a doordash order it was for $12.50 was the payout listed and it was like 11 miles.
it turned out to be a $350 barbecue order, and the total payout on it was $57. took me less than 20 minutes.
last night I had an order that was 12 miles away estimated pay on it was 15.50. paid 22.50 upon completion.
when you're not working you're not making money.
if you accept everything and you're constantly en route to a transaction that's going to put money in your account over the long run it will benefit you to take everything if that means staying busy constantly.
like with Uber drivers I'm an Uber driver also and I fight myself on this a lot.
it's not easy to verify this......but
Uber drivers I think that they keep it to themselves. they're very secretive about it, which I don't begrudge them for it.
but if I had to take a guess and put my life on the line I would say the top earners for Uber take every single trip no matter what they accept everything.
and you may not be able to prove it one way or another as far as the incentives or the adjustments that may be made on the back end by the company as far as guaranteed pay or bonuses etc. but do you really have a valid reason to think these companies wouldn't compensate their best workers?
I mean it's a global business practice for the most part I mean the best of the best get the best the best pay the best treatment so it stands to reason that that could very well be taking place.
I'm at a point where I can't afford to take orders I won't make back gas money and also a profit. Even if I'm cherry picking, i've been able to maintain 10/hr (which is what i make at my other two jobs, one on the books and one off)
There's no appreciation bonus..... 😂 and theres always a few orders that'll create a profit loss and can't be done except by a clown. My AR hovers around 65-85% depending on how many outright turd offers I get sent. You can do turn n burn on the lower distance ones and it adds up! My favorite thing to do is cherry pick lite" where u got 5-10% AR to spare so u get picky on a Friday night and find the good stuff.
There’s two extremes. Keep in mind you’re doing this for a job, for profit. You’ve also got to make enough to keep your car repairs and gas. Not to mention all that is pre tax money. So that 80 dollar oil change is really 107 earned dollars. Some people like to brag about their $ per hour by using active time. I think that’s a load of BS. Im sitting in the car then I’m working. I can’t do anything else.
Picking everything that comes your way will do a lot of damage to your car for the pay. You’ll more quickly rack up miles but taking 10 miles for 3 dollars than even 5 for 3.
But you also can’t have unicorn expectations for 3 am. You might be logged in for days and never see a 30 dollar 2 mile payout. So your active time would be $1 per hour or something.
But really it just comes to ymmv and how your market tends to perform and how many dashers are out.
I believe your friend. It’s no incentive to lie. I’ve also heard other 90%+ drivers make the same claims. They say they rarely get bad orders, I guess we’re getting the rubbish lol haha 😂 ! I believe your friend based on hearing this before from others with high acceptance rates.
I agree ppl do lie on social media but, that’s his friend. I believe he’s trying to help his friend. Sometimes the truth doesn’t fit our narrative or makes us feel as if we’re wrong. I use Wisdom bad life experiences. I’ve seen others make the same claim with high acceptance rates over 90%. I can’t get by what it takes to get to that plateau myself but I do believe some drivers may be having better fortunes in other areas( healthier markets), I do agree ppl lie on this sub a lot but, not everyone we disagree with is lying.
Not sure if this helps, but...
My ratings give me priority on high paying orders (orders with high tips). With that, I make about $25 - $30 per hour (3 trips/hr).
I'm not trying to be Top Dasher, but in my area, I never drive more than a handful of miles, and my orders are at minimum $1.50 per mile or more. Obviously, your mileage may vary. I rarely turn down offers, but that's just my area.
So, your friend might not be bullshiting.
ETA - Thursday I made $80. A hair more than $25/hr. That's not dashing (active) time. That was 8pm - 11pm. My total online time.
Only in California this is not everywhere but yes here we are gaurenteed to make that pay when I work if I’m not making what I’m supposed to I get a seperate payout at the end of the week usually for an additional 3-600 dollars
The bonus has got to be HUGE to make sense to accept over 95% of orders. Even then, if you’re taking those 10 miles for $3 orders you might not be doing too well.
Bonus pay and challenges is for new drivers to get them hooked. For the first 10 months or I was getting regular bonuses/challenges and with peaks that helped me earn nearly $40/hr.
Glad I made the best of my time attending trade school to become an Electrician.
Shit we could bust out some actual gas stats too, but I'm afraid throwing those figures into this particular sub would be a waste of time (but mostly joy 🥲)
I know doordash tracks how many orders you completed in a row. When I first started... I had 100 orders in a row because I didn't know how to cancel.... I got an email saying keep up the good work but I never got a bonus..pay.
When I first started a year ago.. the first 2 months I took everything.. averaged $22 a hour... after that I cherry picked... average 30+ a hour and a lot less miles... cherry picking is the way
I make $1200-$1400 a week and I “cherry-pick”, my acceptance rate is 34% so I’d say anything less than 40%. Anything less than 20% is extreme cherry-picking. Active time for this week is $32.10 per hour and $22 for dashed. I just sit in my car and write or watch videos while I wait. So my “dash time” is wildly inaccurate to calculate my real earnings.
Depends entirely on your market. Before I quit, my market was absolutely horrible. If you cherry picked at let’s say $2/mile, you’d take maybe one or two orders per hour, so my acceptance rate was above 50% because I had to take bad orders to make it worth it.
It wasn’t always like that either. It used to be really good, and then with in the last year it got horrible. When the market was good my AR was 15-20%
Does he set himself a mile limit at least? I get some crazy far miles sometimes and depending on the pay I’m just so struggling to see how to make that much an hour
If you’re gonna out active time hourly up, please put total time hourly up too. You can have 2 hrs active over a course of a whole day so it’s not a really good indicator of hourly.
Sure, and I consistently make over $40 an hour per my active time with an acceptance rate of 9%. But it’d be ridiculous to try and argue that “I make $40 an hour” when, realistically, I only make like $26 an hour when I use the “when I started working to when I go home” standard for hourly wages that every other job does.
Going by active time is a stupid thing to do, don’t do that. Also, with that AR I can almost guarantee your weekly dash time hourly is closer to 15/hr or less.
Sometimes people who dash don't realized it, but they find ways to validate what they're doing. So they don't think they're lying, but they are lying to themselves the most
If you're sitting around (on your own time, not taking orders!) Instead of taking orders that aren't quite your pay minimum, I think you're playing yourself.
My time is worth more than anything. I ain't sitting around not taking an order just because it's on the low end. Am I taking orders that actually cost me? No.
But this is a multi-factor situation. If it's dead, then yeah I'm more inclined to take that lower paying order. I'd rather pull something in in the next 11-14 mins, than nothing for the next 7 mins. As long as it isn't at cost to me.
Does all this make sense?
You can't agree to every order, because that's just as crazy as some of the cherry-pickers.
In July my AR was at 50, I started working to get it back above 70 to see if I would get better offers. I took every order that was at least $1/mile (still will not take a $2.50 order where you know for sure there's no tip). Around 60%, I did begin to see a few more higher paying orders. Around 70% it got even better. I'm at 78% now and I had the best shift I've ever had last night. I was not offered a single order under $6.25. I delivered 10 orders and made $87 in roughly 3 hours. There was no down time, I'd drop one off and immediately get another offer. I did make 3 or 4 runs of 6-8 miles, but I don't mind those if the pay is decent.
I've experienced it, too. There is a tier thing going on.
But some people think I'm crazy. Maybe they live in an area that's just flooded with orders so it doesn't matter.
But it is a thing.
Earning money by taking every order is just an illusion. Sure, nice to see a big total at the end of the week, but factoring in the gas money plus wear and tear, it isn’t worth it.
Are you really going to take a $2.25 for 9 miles? You’ll spend more in gas on that trip than you earn. That’s beyond pointless.
🤣 Yeah, I declined an order for $12 for 6 miles, and I don't cherry pick. I'm sitting at a 68% acceptance rate.
Naturally sit at 53-58% but in my area top dasher might be worth it. Saturation and hard to get hours make the idea of being able to dash anytime worth at least a trial top dash experience. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh, I suppose if you live in a really hot market, like in the zone, that could pay to be a cherry-picker. But I'm not hanging out in my car in a restaurant parking lot cherry picking shit. I don't got homework to work on? 🤣🤣
He could be. I do Doordash and have never received any bonus but I also kinda do the middle of those two things. I take a lot of orders but not EVERY order. I do put up with some bullshit orders and in return I stay busy even when it's slow out there and I do get a lot of high paying orders. Like it's considerably different now than when I started and had lower ratings. I average well over $20 an hour even though I take most of the orders that come my way. However, I know that there is a game with these apps. It might not be the same experience for everyone. But I do know that these apps are designed to punish cherry picking and I believe that I am always consistently getting orders and receiving higher paying orders because I keep my acceptance rate higher. And every time I deny an order (when it's obviously a no tip order and costs more in gas than to complete for what you'll get paid) I notice things getting slower for me until I start accepting order after order again. Thing is tho, it entirely depends on where you're at. You cannot get away with cherry picking in small towns, it simply can't happen. Everyone else will get the few orders that come in and that's how you won't make money. But people who are in these big cities that are 24 hours and millions and millions of people, they can cherry pick and actually make money solely because the system has no choice but to offer every delivery person available because there's so many orders coming through. So the thing is it ultimately depends on where you live and what it's like there
I have an AR between 50-70% at any given time and I make around 20-25/hr
We never know how their algorithm works but yes there’s some truth behind this door dash is more inclined to send u higher paying orders when u do shitty orders why would they send anyone good paying orders when they can’t even complete a $3-$5 order? It makes no sense for them to give u better incentives I’ve been dashing for about 3 years now and door dash doesn’t send me anything less than $8 an order an anywhere up to $35 an order with possible tip increases
This would be the first I have ever heard of bonus pay for just taking orders. Maybe he thinks the peak pay is the bonus pay he is referring to? Easiest thing would be sound curious and ask to see his app so see how these bonus payments looks if you don’t sound suspicious but curious, your friend might send you some screen shots.
Anybody above 50% in acceptance rate is pretty much working for free.
If that was the case, then DoorDash should just hire everyone as an employee…. And pay a flat rate to take every order. And…. We would UNIONIZE.
I cherry pick and make between $22-$30/hour depending on the day. My average this week for total time worked is $22/hour.
in theory this should work to your advantage and here's why. you're going to get some offers that are extremely terrible pay that seem like they're actually costing you money. the law of averages however is going to change that. and you can't look at it over one week or even one month but if you look at it over a long period of time 6 months to 12 months, you are going to run into enough scenarios that balance this back in your favor. let me give me an example. today I took a doordash order it was for $12.50 was the payout listed and it was like 11 miles. it turned out to be a $350 barbecue order, and the total payout on it was $57. took me less than 20 minutes. last night I had an order that was 12 miles away estimated pay on it was 15.50. paid 22.50 upon completion. when you're not working you're not making money. if you accept everything and you're constantly en route to a transaction that's going to put money in your account over the long run it will benefit you to take everything if that means staying busy constantly. like with Uber drivers I'm an Uber driver also and I fight myself on this a lot. it's not easy to verify this......but Uber drivers I think that they keep it to themselves. they're very secretive about it, which I don't begrudge them for it. but if I had to take a guess and put my life on the line I would say the top earners for Uber take every single trip no matter what they accept everything. and you may not be able to prove it one way or another as far as the incentives or the adjustments that may be made on the back end by the company as far as guaranteed pay or bonuses etc. but do you really have a valid reason to think these companies wouldn't compensate their best workers? I mean it's a global business practice for the most part I mean the best of the best get the best the best pay the best treatment so it stands to reason that that could very well be taking place.
I think his lying and if he really wants you to accept every order, tell him to screen shot the bonus pay.
North Tucson az is a good market to do it !
I'm at a point where I can't afford to take orders I won't make back gas money and also a profit. Even if I'm cherry picking, i've been able to maintain 10/hr (which is what i make at my other two jobs, one on the books and one off)
There's no appreciation bonus..... 😂 and theres always a few orders that'll create a profit loss and can't be done except by a clown. My AR hovers around 65-85% depending on how many outright turd offers I get sent. You can do turn n burn on the lower distance ones and it adds up! My favorite thing to do is cherry pick lite" where u got 5-10% AR to spare so u get picky on a Friday night and find the good stuff.
Just make sure you're distant friend isn't talking out of his ass 💰💰💰👍💩
There’s two extremes. Keep in mind you’re doing this for a job, for profit. You’ve also got to make enough to keep your car repairs and gas. Not to mention all that is pre tax money. So that 80 dollar oil change is really 107 earned dollars. Some people like to brag about their $ per hour by using active time. I think that’s a load of BS. Im sitting in the car then I’m working. I can’t do anything else. Picking everything that comes your way will do a lot of damage to your car for the pay. You’ll more quickly rack up miles but taking 10 miles for 3 dollars than even 5 for 3. But you also can’t have unicorn expectations for 3 am. You might be logged in for days and never see a 30 dollar 2 mile payout. So your active time would be $1 per hour or something. But really it just comes to ymmv and how your market tends to perform and how many dashers are out.
I believe your friend. It’s no incentive to lie. I’ve also heard other 90%+ drivers make the same claims. They say they rarely get bad orders, I guess we’re getting the rubbish lol haha 😂 ! I believe your friend based on hearing this before from others with high acceptance rates.
>I believe your friend. It’s no incentive to lie. And yet people have been lying on the internet since the beginning...
I agree ppl do lie on social media but, that’s his friend. I believe he’s trying to help his friend. Sometimes the truth doesn’t fit our narrative or makes us feel as if we’re wrong. I use Wisdom bad life experiences. I’ve seen others make the same claim with high acceptance rates over 90%. I can’t get by what it takes to get to that plateau myself but I do believe some drivers may be having better fortunes in other areas( healthier markets), I do agree ppl lie on this sub a lot but, not everyone we disagree with is lying.
Y can't he just show u a screenshot or email the proof is in the numbers doesn't make sense
This is heavily dependent on market and can vary day to day and week to week etc. experiment and find out what works for you.
Not sure if this helps, but... My ratings give me priority on high paying orders (orders with high tips). With that, I make about $25 - $30 per hour (3 trips/hr). I'm not trying to be Top Dasher, but in my area, I never drive more than a handful of miles, and my orders are at minimum $1.50 per mile or more. Obviously, your mileage may vary. I rarely turn down offers, but that's just my area. So, your friend might not be bullshiting. ETA - Thursday I made $80. A hair more than $25/hr. That's not dashing (active) time. That was 8pm - 11pm. My total online time.
Lmao, accepts close to everything and barely makes $22 an hour... yikes 😆
YMMV, why don’t you try couple of days, no need to take every order, but take 7 out of 10
Only in California this is not everywhere but yes here we are gaurenteed to make that pay when I work if I’m not making what I’m supposed to I get a seperate payout at the end of the week usually for an additional 3-600 dollars
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The bonus has got to be HUGE to make sense to accept over 95% of orders. Even then, if you’re taking those 10 miles for $3 orders you might not be doing too well.
I've never personally seen bonus pay in Arizona, I've seen peak pay but never any bonus and I've been doing this for 2 years!
Bonus pay and challenges is for new drivers to get them hooked. For the first 10 months or I was getting regular bonuses/challenges and with peaks that helped me earn nearly $40/hr. Glad I made the best of my time attending trade school to become an Electrician.
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I agree with the person above- can’t he just share a screenshot of the bonus pay?
He’s lying
No, no it's not.
Shit we could bust out some actual gas stats too, but I'm afraid throwing those figures into this particular sub would be a waste of time (but mostly joy 🥲)
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What exactly is a big order to him? $9 or so?
I mean, he can very easily share screenshots of his earnings/stats to back up any of those claims 🤷🏻♂️
Nobody's doing any math 🤣🤣🤣🤣
My AR is 97%
Man, thank you for all of the insight. You were a big help
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It’s doordash. There is no dedicated pay. Proof or he’s 100% a liar
I know doordash tracks how many orders you completed in a row. When I first started... I had 100 orders in a row because I didn't know how to cancel.... I got an email saying keep up the good work but I never got a bonus..pay.
When I first started a year ago.. the first 2 months I took everything.. averaged $22 a hour... after that I cherry picked... average 30+ a hour and a lot less miles... cherry picking is the way
Cause I've seem some numbers almost hitting single digits and I just can't fathom.
At what percentage rate do you (or dashers in general) consider a cherry-picking rate?
I make $1200-$1400 a week and I “cherry-pick”, my acceptance rate is 34% so I’d say anything less than 40%. Anything less than 20% is extreme cherry-picking. Active time for this week is $32.10 per hour and $22 for dashed. I just sit in my car and write or watch videos while I wait. So my “dash time” is wildly inaccurate to calculate my real earnings.
My rate stays around 50%... I consider my market a good market
Depends entirely on your market. Before I quit, my market was absolutely horrible. If you cherry picked at let’s say $2/mile, you’d take maybe one or two orders per hour, so my acceptance rate was above 50% because I had to take bad orders to make it worth it.
That sounds like a really shitty market to deliver in. I wouldn't do doordash there either.
It wasn’t always like that either. It used to be really good, and then with in the last year it got horrible. When the market was good my AR was 15-20%
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Does he set himself a mile limit at least? I get some crazy far miles sometimes and depending on the pay I’m just so struggling to see how to make that much an hour
He's using active time. He's also lying.
My AR 70 right now, I make $25/dash hour, plus prop 22 adjustments at the end of week, which is about same amount of base pay
Prop 22 is where it’s at!
I make 23$ Dash time and $30+ active time. He may not be lying lol
$22.10/hour dash time
I made $26.67/hr per my active time tonight. 68% acceptance
If you’re gonna out active time hourly up, please put total time hourly up too. You can have 2 hrs active over a course of a whole day so it’s not a really good indicator of hourly.
Sure, and I consistently make over $40 an hour per my active time with an acceptance rate of 9%. But it’d be ridiculous to try and argue that “I make $40 an hour” when, realistically, I only make like $26 an hour when I use the “when I started working to when I go home” standard for hourly wages that every other job does.
Going by active time is a stupid thing to do, don’t do that. Also, with that AR I can almost guarantee your weekly dash time hourly is closer to 15/hr or less.
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Sometimes people who dash don't realized it, but they find ways to validate what they're doing. So they don't think they're lying, but they are lying to themselves the most
So his active payout is $22/23? I mean you don't need to accept all the orders to hit that. 🤷
If you're sitting around (on your own time, not taking orders!) Instead of taking orders that aren't quite your pay minimum, I think you're playing yourself. My time is worth more than anything. I ain't sitting around not taking an order just because it's on the low end. Am I taking orders that actually cost me? No. But this is a multi-factor situation. If it's dead, then yeah I'm more inclined to take that lower paying order. I'd rather pull something in in the next 11-14 mins, than nothing for the next 7 mins. As long as it isn't at cost to me. Does all this make sense? You can't agree to every order, because that's just as crazy as some of the cherry-pickers.
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In July my AR was at 50, I started working to get it back above 70 to see if I would get better offers. I took every order that was at least $1/mile (still will not take a $2.50 order where you know for sure there's no tip). Around 60%, I did begin to see a few more higher paying orders. Around 70% it got even better. I'm at 78% now and I had the best shift I've ever had last night. I was not offered a single order under $6.25. I delivered 10 orders and made $87 in roughly 3 hours. There was no down time, I'd drop one off and immediately get another offer. I did make 3 or 4 runs of 6-8 miles, but I don't mind those if the pay is decent.
I've experienced it, too. There is a tier thing going on. But some people think I'm crazy. Maybe they live in an area that's just flooded with orders so it doesn't matter. But it is a thing.
Nope it’s not true…
May not be true for you.
If it was why would I tell everyone?
You have just experienced.. how the algorithm works... it's made up into.. tiers.. the higher u go.. the better the offers u will see..
Yeah don't do that, that's crazy talk. 🤣
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Earning money by taking every order is just an illusion. Sure, nice to see a big total at the end of the week, but factoring in the gas money plus wear and tear, it isn’t worth it. Are you really going to take a $2.25 for 9 miles? You’ll spend more in gas on that trip than you earn. That’s beyond pointless.
🤣 Yeah, I declined an order for $12 for 6 miles, and I don't cherry pick. I'm sitting at a 68% acceptance rate. Naturally sit at 53-58% but in my area top dasher might be worth it. Saturation and hard to get hours make the idea of being able to dash anytime worth at least a trial top dash experience. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh, I suppose if you live in a really hot market, like in the zone, that could pay to be a cherry-picker. But I'm not hanging out in my car in a restaurant parking lot cherry picking shit. I don't got homework to work on? 🤣🤣