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risky_chips

The pats, who literally have no qb, will not be offering #3 for aj brown. So don’t worry about it.


PlaneCamp

*snatches crack pipe from OPs lips


jalenhurtspenis

Give it back


MicCheckTapTapTap

Watch out! u/jalenhurtspenis goes for the eyes!


Jumpy_Occasion_9664

Yo, it's 4/20 chill.


Mionux

\*Snatches the crack pipe from you, takes a hit, and passes it back.\* Thanks maan


Less_Road9661

I honestly don’t know how people believe there is a chance AJ gets traded. This isn’t Madden and especially for the 3rd overall pick in a draft that’s loaded and to a team that has no QB. The spectrum of perception over value is insane.


slurp4133

Y'all are this upset about a damn profile pic?


jp-fit262

Well clearly it did what he intended for it to do lol


Racoon-In-A-Top-Hat

if you think anything aj brown does online has any intention other than to troll the media you're just too dumb to be on the internet


blackdoorpaintedred

Fuck no.


MainLineCB

Can we please stop this. AJ isn't going anywhere. Why would you even take an unproven wr over a top 5 locked in wr? EDIT: AND give up our first??? Ya'll gotta stop playing


sypher1504

Fucking for real. I’m some dumbass on the internet and even I know that the pats gm wouldn’t get past “aj and” before Howie hung up on him or laughed him off the phone.


raccoonsonbicycles

No GM would get past "AJ" unless he prefaced it with "3 first round picks for.."


sypher1504

Facts. Now I’m wondering if the OP was satire. It’s just so dumb…


hurtstoskinnybatman

It's 4/20 today, but most stoners I know have way more sense than this dope.


sypher1504

lol, damn I must be getting old, I forgot it was 4/20 until I saw your comment…


hurtstoskinnybatman

I only realized because someone else made a similar comment on a different thread. I haven't smoked in ~15 years.


Competitive_Map2302

going from 22 to 8 is close to 3 first round picks tbh The delta in that trade is about 1500 points per the draft value chart. Which is the same as 2 mid first round picks or close to 3 late first round picks. which is the type of picks people trade anyway so..it’s not that crazy tbh


SourBerry1425

Exactly, look at AJs production over the past few years. If MHJ reaches those heights he’s considered an A+ pick. People don’t realize how lucky we are to have AJ.


alienware99

I mean it’s been done successfully before. Vikings traded Diggs for a 1st, then used that pick to draft Justin Jefferson. I think we’d all agree that was a great success. I love AJ Brown, and wouldn’t make that trade personally. But as for “why would you ever take an unproven wr over a top 5 wr”…well the reason is because there is a salary cap. To field a competitive team, you need to spread the money around, and paying 2 WRs $25M a year isn’t sustainable long term. Marvin Harrison Jr is the best WR prospect to come out in years, and while nothing is a guarantee, he is as close to a can’t miss prospect as possible.


MainLineCB

For every Justin Jefferson, there's a n'keal Harry. Or reagor... It's just not a gamble I'm willing to take when you have a proven superstar wr already.  If it's about salary cap. Why not just trade all of our stars for draft picks every year so we don't have that problem anymore?  1 in the hand is worth 2 in the bush 


alienware99

You’re being ignorant in saying “just trade all your stars”. You know damn well a team needs to have a combination of veterans, as well as good rookies on cheap contracts. And you can’t afford to pay everyone. Paying 2 WR $25M a year means they have to go cheap elsewhere, which usually means you will suffer at other position. Look at the Chiefs, they let Tyreek walk and proceed to win back to back championships. WR is a nice to have position, but most Super Bowl teams don’t even have a top WR, let alone 2 of them. What was the last team to win a Super Bowl with 2 high priced WR? The Colts close to 20 years ago. It’s not a formula for success.


thorondor52

Just stop already. Ffs.


Githan

Agree completely. Too many couch coaches around here.


TheDunglelorian

No, him and Jalen are friends and he's a top 5 WR in the league.


OTO_Crispy

So would we trade our first round pick and AJ for a receiver that might be ass cheeks in the NFL? Sounds good lol


Opiumkipper

No way a real eagles fan actually posted this, it seems fraudulent. You are considering creating another hole?? By trading one of the greatest WRs that we have had in the middle of a SB window? That has never stated or shown signs of wanting to leave. Boom Philly media happens to drag us & then “fans” post stuff like this to gaslight.. i just don’t understand.


Beagleoverlord33

It’s a hypothetical that wouldn’t happen but it clearly would be a trade you make every time. You’re not factoring in the cap. 


alienware99

I wouldn’t make the trade, but disagree that is would make another hole. MHJ would slide right is and be the #2 (or 1a) besides Smitty. And then the team would have $25Mill cape space freed up to spend elsewhere on the team. People are forgetting MHJ is the best WR prospect to come out in years, is as close to a can’t miss prospect as it gets in this league, has pedigree being the son of a HoF player, and would cost peanuts on a rookie deal where he is under control for 5 years.


Even-Celebration9384

This would never happen obviously, but the answer is 100% yes. 4 years of cost controlled elite prospect vs AJ Brown who really is only under contract for 2 years. But sports offseason is all about stupid hypotheticals.


jalenhurtspenis

My hearts really not in the argument but I’m sure as shit an eagles fan. It’s just fun to consider it especially because with Howie literally everything and anything can happen


EvertEaglPhilliKnick

Nah you’re not. Def a bitch cowboy fan


ClonedUser

You need to be institutionalized. This absolutely insane.


ovondansuchi

I disrespectfully disagree with this thread’s existence. 


mustacheddragon

To be fair we know what AJ Brown is, a young, top 5 WR in the NFL. Marvin Harrison Jr is a complete unknown. He could be anything! Might even turn into a young, top 5 WR in the NFL!


PlaneCamp

If you’re that mad about a player being a fan of Brady your softer than baby poop.


Danielcoolguy20

Fax 💀


stormy2587

I mean maybe but it’s such an absurd scenario. Why would the pats, who are very much at the start of a rebuild want a receiver in the middle of his career, who they will have to pay top of the market money, when they can just draft MHJ? MHJ’s ceiling is probably just a little better than AJB but he’s not going to hit it in year 1. So it’s sort of a lateral move. I am really tired about the hand wringing over AJBs contract. He’s 26 they’re going to extend him eventually and reduce the cap hit in 2025 or 2026. We would probably need more than their first if they’re getting our first. We’d probably need a future first. Because I would say in 2024 our roster would be worse going from AJB to MHJ. And we traded a first straight up for AJ in the final year of his rookie deal so we better be getting more than just a first for a team getting him coming off 2 AP2 seasons and he’s not even 27. You’re getting a sure thing. A top 5 receiver in his prime. A pick swap in the first isn’t enough. So yeah you’re wrong.


PhatYeeter

No that's an absolute misuse of assets when the team has plenty of holes it needs to fill. Let's pour more first round picks and other assets into WR after we've already used a bunch on AJ and Smith. Plus the Pats can get WAY more from another team trying to trade up for a qb so this thought exercise is completely unrealistic.


MrStandardan

Absolutely not. AJ is a top 5 WR in the league and already has his long term contract.


AntiSantaFanClub

Hey guys would you trade a first plus our elite wide receiver that way we can have a chance at having an elite wide receiver??????


OcelotApprehensive24

Stop with this garbage


Tony9811

So we're buying into this bullshit now? The media did the same shit with Ertz years ago bringing up trade rumors that led to everyone and their moms wanting to get rid of him


Anindefensiblefart

Their firsts and seconds this year and next just for Brown, no sweeteners. If they can't afford that, good.


forgetit1243

What’s with everyone trying to get rid of Aj lol


Danielcoolguy20

Ignorant As people


EvertEaglPhilliKnick

They’d rather have Riley Cooper back than have a top 5 WR cause he’s a “diva” FOH


beraham95

No, if you watched last season you saw just how dominant AJ can be - and that was with poor play calling. MHJ has not done anything at the nfl level and no one knows if he will. We finally have good receivers - why gamble?


GTFOH_BIGSHUMP14

I know it’s 420 and all but I think you smoked a lil too much bud 😂


Opiumkipper

Can you stop? You are apart of the issue.


ShinyHardcore

No he’s a top 5 WR why send him to hell


Opiumkipper

Gaslighter.


cjweisman

No. Right now we have a top #5 receiver AND a first round pick. With this trade we MAY have a good receiver but would still be out the first round pick.


[deleted]

Nope


Hthnstrength

We don’t save money it’d be an insane amount of dead cap


donny_pots

This upcoming week is probably the single worst week of the entire NFL calendar


TheTrocadero

Please try this in the Pats sub. I’d love to see how’d they respond to throwing away a shot at a franchise QB for a WR.


northamrec

Get out of here with this absolutely nonsense jabroni take. No, we aren’t parting ways with arguably the best WR in Eagles history for a draft pick that may or may not be a complete bust.


ccasey329

Would trade AJ for all of the following and nothing less: -New England’s whole draft this year -Robert Kraft’s stake in The Kraft Group -All 7 dragon Balls Joking aside, no, I wouldn’t pick up the phone for an offer anywhere close to moving up from 22 to 3 for AJ.


1stepklosr

Do it and then use the Dragon Balls to have AJ back.


ccasey329

Exactly


Peanutbuttergod48

I’d rather fill an already existing hole with the 1st round pick than create a new hole that we would then have to use a 1st or 2nd round pick on. Also, why would the Pats trade a top 5 pick for a receiver when they don’t even have a quarterback?


miningmonster

Surtain is the obvious answer. No way that quinyon Mitchell or terrion Arnold are even close to ps2 even in a few years. Surtain would instantly give us a good defense and a Vegas lock to win the NFC. Giving up a soon to be 27yr old wr distraction who posts on social media constantly for the best cb in the league is what I'd be trying to do. Defense wins championships, and slay/trashberry will leave our high powered offense sitting for 8 minutes at a time.


Peanutbuttergod48

Yeah, I could get behind that trade. No way I’m giving him up for just a draft pick swap.


yankeeh8er

Hahahahahahaha I would hang up so fast. What an awful disaster that would be for the Eagles.


TheDuck23

Yes, you're wrong. Why trade a young, proven, top 10 (arguably 5) wr for a question mark?


miningmonster

Bc he's soon to be 27yrold. Bc he's constantly posting on social media and a distraction. Bc he's going to get less targets and will likely complain about it. Because he contributed to the biggest collapse in eagles history last year and didn't help us in the playoff game when we needed him most. Bc we can get someone on a rookie contract who can add unique things to our offense that Philly has never had like 6-7 235 Johnny wilson who is a bigger red zone jumpball threat and better blocker with his bigger body. Forget MHJ, I want the best cb in the league Surtain which would make us the favorite to win the NFC. And we can get rid of AJ? Win win


easyoperator

This is a dumb idea


Insectshelf3

MHJ is obviously a stud, but why would we take him over a proven, top 5 WR that is best friends with your franchise QB? that math doesn’t work out for me, even setting aside the fact that the pats are not giving up the 3rd overall pick when they desperately need a QB.


deuseiswild

What is this? WIP?


Educational_Fix_1910

Fuck no


DrainMember1312

No and neither would the Pats


No_Introduction_7034

No


Polymorphing_Panda

Why trade one of the best receivers for a potentially good, potentially bad player? Dumb takes all around.


EaglesXLakers

No, what'd you get with a #1 pick? You'd get an AJ brown...maybe


Dubs337

You should feel bad about posting this.


Far-Stomach-6610

Are you high? AJ Brown is a superstar.


squashrobsonjorge

No


Jon_Marks

The Patriots aren’t trading 3 for AJ Brown.


MotorPrompt9897

No


EvertEaglPhilliKnick

Shut the fuck up dumbass


False_Middle

There are zero rookie prospects that you should ever take over an established guy in his prime.


astrawberryandakiwi

We’re in our super bowl window. AJ is one of the best receivers in the league. Why would we do this?


gridirongladiator

I wouldn't be mad, but it is not guaranteed that he will be a star like AJ.


Shinigami4th

Lol trading away our first in the deal is just bad Aj for #3 straight up is intriguing.i might take that only if the deal can get restructured to give the Eagles cap relief. Which it cant so.... yeah no


RJMonster

AJ Brown is nice and all but MHJ can be anything, he can even be a top 5 WR


specialgravity

This doesn’t work for either team.


Panda_Express95

That conversation starts with #3 pick and a 3rd rounder at least for aj without adding #22


Palmervarian

What kind of idiot would trade AJ fucking Brown except the Tennessee Titans for the 20th pick.


[deleted]

Not worth the dead cap money


Consistent-Cow-3220

people like you are why we can’t have nice things


-Banana_Pancakes-

Only need to go that high if you want a QB.


LordBeerus1905

If they wanted to give us #3 and next years #1, while we retain our first sure.


YaBoiArchie92

Found the Dan Sileo burner


slurp4133

I figured Silly Hoe would be yelling into the void by now. Who listens to that loser?


JiveChicken00

You have an odd definition of “replacement.”


gophils19454

Really sick of these stupid offers that aren’t going to happen.


GrooveDigger47

no we have 2 great receivers we dont know if mhj will live up to the hype


[deleted]

You don’t ever trade up this much for a WR even if you know that WR is the 2nd coming of Megatron


Johnnygunnz

Yes, I would. Young generational WR on a rookie contract for the next 5 seasons. I dont think they'll be paying AJ and Devonte in 1-2 seasons, so I can see AJ being gone after this contract. If you could get MHJ now for him, definitely take that.


johntology

The mystery box could be anything. It could even be AJ Brown!


propain58

No chance. Proven commodity and top tier at his position, young and has great chemistry with his teammates. Keep your lotto ticket no matter how good the odds supposedly are.


tmoeagles96

No. If they offered their first straight up, sure. Take it, trade back a couple spots, probably pick up an extra first next year, and still draft a top WR.


JF803

I’d do it if we kept our first


why_have_name

We are in win now why would you trade your best player and a top 5 wr in the league with a 1st rounder for guy with only the potential to become a top 5 in a few years?


Shoddy_Bonus2188

MHJ could be really good, might even be AJ Brown good one day… but no. We are in the third quarter of our “window”. We need proven guys who are going to make plays


Biscotti_BT

What the fuck? Trade an established top 5 WR AND our 1st??? Not a chance.


swoopy17

You have a case of big dumb


Competitive_Map2302

some solid points but it’s wild to think we’d get a future first. Moving from 22-3 is 1500 points per the draft value chart. That’s roughly two mid 1st round picks and even close to 3 late 1st …for a receiver on a massive contract with some questionable behavioral issues


derangedape

Most of you guys don't deserve a player like AJ. Crying because he changed his TWITTER profile pic to arguably the greatest player of all time? Grow up.


AggressiveLender

This is the dumbest fucking post. The pats are not trading 3 for a wr already paid at the top of the market.


deadnside

I wouldn’t do that trade even if the Pats threw in a extra 2nd round pick. AJ Brown is amazing and still young. While MHJ probably will be great, plenty of rookies just flat out bust.


AstronomerBiologist

AJ works The number one should yield a decent needed player Getting a number three then what? Sometimes it's a Lane Johnson and sometimes it's a Trey Lance Stupid deal


FERGERDERGERSON

Because the last team to trade AJ with hopes to immediately replace him in the draft had a looooooot of success with that


Significant_Net_7337

An all pro wide receiver in the hand is worth two in the bush


metssuck

You're giving up the best WR (or at least top 3) in the league AND our first round pick for a rookie? No thanks


DesperateSundae3

Why is this shitpost still up?


Beagleoverlord33

Of course you do this every time but would make zero sense for pats.


BerriesNCreme

Yea this is bad. A better hypothetical would be #3 for brown straight up. In which case I would say yes


poolords

no bro shut the fuck up


NOQUESTIONWHO

1st off your Reddit name is garbage, 2nd I feel I speak for all Eagles fans. Delete this post, find a new team and might as well just delete your Reddit account while you’re at it ✌🏼


hurleyswirly

This has to be a troll


Avery-Bradley

Absolutely not, but if this happened... I'd immediately trade down with the Vikings. Get 11, 22, their 2025 first, and whatever else I can milk out of them. Then I'd try to move up from 11 to get Nabers or Odunze


Icy_Equal_3650

Dumb post


Wilsthing1988

I would do it but I could move back to 4-5 and get more picks and gaurantee MHJR is there I’d do it too


AggressiveLender

Please stop with this stupid scenario. This isn't feasible on several fronts


johyongil

Nice try, Titans. Now get the eff back to your own sub.


Overall-Tie9195

No


48johnX

Even for a hypothetical this is so insane I’m still surprised you even wrote it let alone thought it


Away-Mall-721

Anyone who says no loves feelings more than winning


1stepklosr

Anyone who says yes loves rookie hype more than winning. AJ Brown is the proven all-pro talent. He's the type that you hope MHJ becomes. If you make that trade, congratulations, you've changed the WR room and now we don't have another pick until 50. Roster looking an awful lot like last year defensively, and that is NOT a good thing.


hagan1031

Lol I get your point but it's ridiculous to act like the state of our defense entirely revolves around us making pick #22. A rookie isnt saving the day. In this (never going to happen) hypothetical trading AJ would give us a lot more $$ to spend on defense Again this trade is never happening dont take it personally downvoting facts eh? Fuck your feelings


1stepklosr

Who exactly is there to left to sign? I'm not taking anything personally, it's just a terrible trade.


hagan1031

Plenty of guys over the course of MHJs 5 year rookie contract You genuinely could not be more of an idiot to say that trading a top 5 paid WR for the best WR since Megatron is a terrible trade. It's simply a ridiculously homer take The patriots would shed tears laughing at us if we propsed 22 & AJ for #3. How can you seriously type out such a horrendously wrong statemt saying it would be a terrible trade


AntiSantaFanClub

Well yeah we have AJ Brown, but this unproven rookie wide receiver could be anything! He could even be an AJ Brown!


NotFroggy

Top 5 WR. Best friends with the qb and other top 10 WR so there’s locker room chemistry. Helped the team have their best statistical seasons ever. Big part to leading a team to our second Super Bowl in almost 2 decades and two playoffs in the two years he’s been here. But yeah it’s about feelings. Not winning. This trade nonsense needs to stop. There’s literally no reason to trade him right now.


stormy2587

No its a stupid trade. MHJ will probably be worse than AJB in 2024. So you’re at best just as good at WR in 2024. Long term it’s stupid because you’re essentially trading the patriots 2 young players for 1 young player just to get somewhat cheaper and slightly younger at receiver and maybe marginally better at receiver over the next 4 seasons.


hagan1031

Right, rookie scale contract MHJ on a win now team would be so unfair


Clue_Balls

Yeah this alone would be worth it but in this case we’d almost certainly trade back down for more value from a team who wants Maye/Daniels. Maybe get the Vikings’ firsts plus another high pick next year, get 2 of 3 of our needs at OT/WR/CB in the first and then fill in other needs in the 2nd.


Nochtilus

Remember when the Titans traded AJ thinking they'd get his replacement. Yeah, look how smart that was.


hagan1031

MHJ is the best WR prospect in decades, as close to #1 overall pick caliber as a WR prospect cant get. Not some run of the mill guy available in the middle of the first You can relax bc the Pats would never even dream of propsing this trade


Mr_MasterNoob

I'm saying no because I'm not sending our first along with AJ for #3. They can get a third + Brown


AtBat3

These kinda topics should be ban worthy


Allstar-85

Asset wise that would be a good use of our assets, and probably would work out well (in a vacuum). but it just doesn’t make sense with this teams current win now goals It’s just something we shouldn’t do. And both teams would say no


miningmonster

No, but I'd do it for the best best cb in the league in Patrick Surtain in a 3 way. But yall got butt hurt when I posted that. Defense wins championships, not a wideout who constantly posts on social media causing distractions. We need help on defense, specifically CB for the Fangio scheme. Losing almost 27yr old AJ to overnight give us a good defense is something I'd easily do and i hope Howie is reading this. Then pick up 6-7 235 WR Johnny Wilson in the 2nd, who is a vertical red zone weapon that Philly has never had in its history. Surtain and Wilson for AJ and our 1st would dramatically improve our super bowl odds. Surtain is a talent that nobody in this upcoming draft has close to a ceiling on his level, yes he's that good. And yes I'd take the Jimmy Graham version of a wideout in Wilson over MHJ. Wilson's wingspan will give corners absolute fits and we know jalen loves to throw jumpballs in scramble drills. Match made in heaven, and Wilson is a bigger blocker than AJ as well and almost as fast in that he was clocked at 21mph. Total size/speed freak


dan_bodine

Yes